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I got this video sent to me and thought it was hilarious and probably true. I personally do not own a bible and so cannot check the citations that run along the bottom of the screen but hey if you do I'd love to hear the results.

Yeah I'm still labeling this thread as "proof" because religions in general contradict themselves all the time. Like... talking a lot about love except hating all those who disagree with them so it would not surprise me at all to find that the Bible which was patched together over something like 3000-5000 years by something like 50-100 different authors would have more than a few contradictions. That's just logical.







Bring on the bad karma, judging people on this site based on a little coloured bar in the corner is just plain ludicrous anyways.
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I would ask if its proper GLP etiquette to bump your own thread but regardless of whether it is or not I guess that's what this post amounts to anyways.
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I would ask if its proper GLP etiquette to bump your own thread but regardless of whether it is or not I guess that's what this post amounts to anyways.
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Interesting stuff. Contradictions, open ended meanings come with the package of faith. The end result is numbness, not being human, being apathetic and a sheep. Why give us a brain if we are not gonna use it and be rational.

The bible was designed to make humans biological robots without a soul. Hasn't it managed to accomplish this if we take a look around? Many have sold their souls by believing in stuff that actually defies logic with a high probability of it being false or at best an agenda. Either way people are following not what their soul tells them.
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I got this video sent to me and thought it was hilarious and probably true. I personally do not own a bible and so cannot check the citations that run along the bottom of the screen but hey if you do I'd love to hear the results.

Yeah I'm still labeling this thread as "proof" because religions in general contradict themselves all the time. Like... talking a lot about love except hating all those who disagree with them so it would not surprise me at all to find that the Bible which was patched together over something like 3000-5000 years by something like 50-100 different authors would have more than a few contradictions. That's just logical.







Bring on the bad karma, judging people on this site based on a little coloured bar in the corner is just plain ludicrous anyways.
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actually, "The Bible" is only about 1700 years old. most christians don't realize that they're only the Next To Newest Kid on The Block.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Well I assume that somewhere along the lines the bible and other "holy" books did come from something more or less historical..... then got twisted beyond all recognition by lazy people who only wanted to say they were honest and good but didn't want to put in the effort to do that and didn't really believe it themselves. And so over time the words of whoever the actual original teachers actually were just got thrown out and replaced with some cheap 4 step program to self-confidence which we now call religion.



Because really, who doesn't look up to people like that, like the Martin Luther Kings and Ghandi and etc who actually tried living wholesome lives? No I have not research them to see if they really did and that's not he point of this post anyways. But most people go "Damn that sounds like a lot of work, can't I just say I'm like that? No one will notice the difference." And then they feel all good about themselves because they think that calling themselves [INSERT TITLE HERE] makes them one.



So that's my theory on what happened, people were lazy.
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Even if the actual written record is only 1700 years old that doesn't change the whole "cobbled together from many authors through the ages" thing. Perhaps that book was simply some guy arranging all those stories into a book. I don't know.
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I've never actually met a Christian, Muslim, Lightworker or otherwise. I HAVE met lots of people who say that's what they are, but unfortunately their actions pretty well prove that what they actually believe is that they're special, and all that goodness and hard work stuff only applies to other people Generally I've found that the faithful are more than willing to drop the beliefs they claim they have when its no longer convenient to hold them.



Its very testable too which makes it nice. I like taking Lightworkers who claim that every situation that happens in ones life was manifested by that person themselves. Which means that they believe that a war orphan who stepped on a landmine and lost their leg and half an arm in Sudan must've created that situation themselves. Therefore their belief applies to bad things too. But all I have to do is start insulting them on an internet forum to get them riled up and suddenly all that talk of manifesting lessons is gone and they're all pissed at me. An internet forum, arguably the most harmless medium of which bad things could happen. And that was enough to make their alleged worldview crumble away. So again I saw what they really believed. Its just like the biblical argument of context for certain passages, when it makes them look good, they believe it, when it makes them look bad, "oh that's all out of context and open for interpretation." Therefore the REAL belief is that they are special and superior to others and nothing more. But of course they'd never admit that.



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Why is this shite pinned ?
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Why is this shite pinned ?
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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Why is this shite pinned ?
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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What's the bet Wonkish the Mod pinned this ??? He is a militant Atheist too , pathetic !
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I'm on my 8th time through the Bible cover to cover and I am 100% convinced it has all the information God wants me to know. and it is inerrant in original autographs -- divinely inspired. the Bible I have right here is exactly what God intended me to have and I do believe it is the Truth -- God's Word.

I no longer judge the Bible, I yield and let the Bible judge ME.

the Bible is the story of God reaching out to His fallen creation by coming to earth as a man -- Jesus Christ -- and dying a substitutionary death so we can live forever with Him. Jesus rose from the grave and Belief in His death burial and resurrection as atonement for our sins and payment for eternal life is the greatest story ever told.

as for people's behavior Christianity teaches we are saved by how we BELIEVE not how we BEHAVE. when we are born again by believing in Jesus we receive His Holy Spirit inside us as a guarantee and a down payment -- we enter the POSITION of eternal life not based on our PERFORMANCE -- but via Christ's finished work on the cross

though our sins be as scarlet they are rendered white as snow. this is the hilariously good news of the gospel op!!

there are no and-ya-gottas. we enter the covenant God established when we believe in Jesus. every false religion has other requirements and stipulations and a little research shows no two people are in full agreement on exactly what performances need to be accomplished, or what sins to be avoided etc.

as far as challenging passages go God has an explanation and I believe He will explain everything in my first 5 minutes of forever with Him. He is a just God and every mouth will be stopped. we are without excuse.

and the things of God are foolishness to the unbeliever as they are spiritually discerned. without the Holy Spirit we cannot grasp what God has done, is doing, and what He is going to do. but regardless He is faithful to His Word it will not return to Him void. He has performed it all through history as the Bible shows -- He is performing it, and the prophetic passages will be performed.

there is fremendous joy and peace in finally surrendering to God and taking Him at His Word my friend.

love rb
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Why is this shite pinned ?
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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So your god is so powerful that mere men could add and/or subtract from his holy book? How come he couldn't stop them? Perhaps he allowed it? Speaks well of an all powerful or all knowing god, doesnt it. A god that is spontaneous.
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So now I have to wonder if all the people down rating this thread are more evidence that a believer only accept things about their beliefs that make them look good and then damn everything that makes them look bad even if both sides of the coin are true. Again, this behavior would be very predictable from the faithful as their belief system is there to give them a sense of self confidence and often little more. So anything that threatens that self confidence must be bad and must be eliminated and treated as the enemy. Although this is in general and exists on a spectrum, as some do indeed try to embody those good qualities as opposed to just talking about them.


I mean I'm not a professional licensed psychologist or anything but hey observations are observations and data is data and patterns are patterns.
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For you guys claiming the bible has no contraditcion ons this thread those videos do have citations in them so if you really have a bible you could just look it up yourself to see if its true. Otherwise you're just proving the "CONTEXT!!!!" video true.
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Why is this shite pinned ?
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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You for example just outright proved the Context video true.
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No sound on my office comp...I will check it out when I get home
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So tired of this atheist bull crap...................

:Athiestism:
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Why is this shite pinned ?
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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So your god is so powerful that mere men could add and/or subtract from his holy book? How come he couldn't stop them? Perhaps he allowed it? Speaks well of an all powerful or all knowing god, doesnt it. A god that is spontaneous.
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God tests his people all the time to see who is obedient to his Word and who truly loves him .

James 1:12 "God blesses those who Patiently Endure TESTING and TEMPTATION. Afterward they will receive the CROWN OF LIFE that God has promised to those who love Him."
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Why is this shite pinned ?
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12623026


You for example just outright proved the Context video true.
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I didn't watch your shitty video because they are all alike and I have zero need to , I know what the Word of God is and what is not .
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Many of the cities God commanded people to kill were actually the Nephilim, the Giants... and the others were just people so far into evil that it was their punishment... As for the contradictions, I will have to do a study on this, I do believe in my Lord, and my God, because of what He has done for me, I know their is a God because He has revealed Himself to me.. People have arguments.. I have experience... Yahweh bless you.
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So tired of this atheist bull crap...................

:Athiestism:
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LOL ! Nice one :)
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Paul was not included in the list of 12 original Apostles , therefore had zero Authority and his writings were just that , his own opinions . Even the CC admitted the only reason they added him was because his writings were edifying .
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I would ask if its proper GLP etiquette to bump your own thread but regardless of whether it is or not I guess that's what this post amounts to anyways.
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If you are going to attempt to preach can you name just one contradiction?
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Example of the typical behavior of a moderate to intense faithful, they don't care if you don't believe in other gods or religions. But if you say you don't believe them then suddenly they care. It's behavior conducive of a sense of entitlement and self righteousness and some form of special status. Because if they really cared about Atheists they'd call them out on every other religion too. Again, they don't care that you don't believe in a god, just that you don't believe in their God. They want to feel special and superior to others.



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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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So your god is so powerful that mere men could add and/or subtract from his holy book? How come he couldn't stop them? Perhaps he allowed it? Speaks well of an all powerful or all knowing god, doesnt it. A god that is spontaneous.
 Quoting: Ohwell


God tests his people all the time to see who is obedient to his Word and who truly loves him .

James 1:12 "God blesses those who Patiently Endure TESTING and TEMPTATION. Afterward they will receive the CROWN OF LIFE that God has promised to those who love Him."
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You didnt answer my question.

How come he couldn't stop them? Perhaps he allowed it?

On one hand you blame the catholic church and say everything is perfect except for what they did and then again you say its a test by god.

Here's your quote:

No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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The video of OP kind of illustrates your thinking pattern.
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I would ask if its proper GLP etiquette to bump your own thread but regardless of whether it is or not I guess that's what this post amounts to anyways.
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If you are going to attempt to preach can you name just one contradiction?
 Quoting: Axx 2580226


Watch the first video and check the citations and you'll get a whole slew of em. If you're going to attempt to debunk me, try doing your homework first.
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I dunno man, maybe because its true?
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
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Paul is not a false apostle. He wrote half the NT and was accepted by all early Christians before Rome was even Catholic.
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So tired of this atheist bull crap...................

:Athiestism:
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Makes about as much sense as this: [link to www.demotivationalposters.org]
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Many of the cities God commanded people to kill were actually the Nephilim, the Giants... and the others were just people so far into evil that it was their punishment... As for the contradictions, I will have to do a study on this, I do believe in my Lord, and my God, because of what He has done for me, I know their is a God because He has revealed Himself to me.. People have arguments.. I have experience... Yahweh bless you.
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No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12623026


So your god is so powerful that mere men could add and/or subtract from his holy book? How come he couldn't stop them? Perhaps he allowed it? Speaks well of an all powerful or all knowing god, doesnt it. A god that is spontaneous.
 Quoting: Ohwell


God tests his people all the time to see who is obedient to his Word and who truly loves him .

James 1:12 "God blesses those who Patiently Endure TESTING and TEMPTATION. Afterward they will receive the CROWN OF LIFE that God has promised to those who love Him."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12623026


You didnt answer my question.

How come he couldn't stop them? Perhaps he allowed it?

On one hand you blame the catholic church and say everything is perfect except for what they did and then again you say its a test by god.

Here's your quote:

No its not . There are contradictions in the Bible because the Catholic Church put in writings that did not belong in there(Paul , the false Prophets writings) . Take him out and the Word flows like it should . FAIL OP , Try harder !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12623026



The video of OP kind of illustrates your thinking pattern.
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The Almighty Creator of the Universe could not stop them ? lol please , don't be silly ! In the OT , there is a story that the book of the Law was lost for a whole generation and God could have easily told one of the Prophets about it but he didn't because it is our duty and responsibility to guard and test the Word . And what I said did not contradict itself , why can't it be both ?

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