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OyVey User ID: 1371470 United States 03/22/2012 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 40+ authors... most of them never knew each other Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3578829 consistant throughout... kjv that is lol, you're so deluded! Look up the scriptures in the video in your precious KJV! They contradict there too. still love you dood got no hate here.. bible makes you grow as a man.. Besides, folks it is written in our hearts.....the written word kills (corruption in the religious organizations)....the Spirit of the Word gives life. [link to www.e-sword.net] |
13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 610727 Australia 03/22/2012 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I'm unable to counter what was stated in the video. So I'll pretend that I have the ability to do so, yet won't." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4585656 Sounds just like their god. Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3578829 Canada 03/22/2012 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more an atheist RESEARCHES evolution Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3578829 the more he realizes it takes a lot more faith to believe in nothing came from nothing.. no macro evolution.. missing links etc... dna.. look up PPSIMMONS on youtube.. he's got many great videos Yeah, but there's no reason to bow down and worship that "something". That's always been my problem. Just because something exists doesn't mean it needs to be worshiped. Can't it just exist all on its own? He does and he doesn't require your worship to exist. Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; "as though he needed any thing" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12623026 United States 03/22/2012 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God had to kill himself to appease himself so that He wouldn't have to roast us, (His beloved creations) alive for all eternity. He loves us more than we can comprehend but, if we don't love him back, He will send us to Hell to suffer forever and ever. That really is AMAZING GRACE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4585656 Oh dear ! Yeshua is the Son of God . Just wow . And you are guilty of slander . Slander? How so? That's exactly the "master plan" that your Yahweh came up with to "redeem" humanity! I mean, who can blame him? He was obviously powerless to just simply make a decision to forgive and do it. No no, his crucifixion plan was much better! Yes slander ! Yeshua is not God for a start , he is the Son of God . Eternal hellfire is false doctrine too , the Wicked and rebellious will simply be annihilated , thrown into the lake of fire . You will not only be judged for your rejection of the Son of God but also for your transgressions of his holy law . You are a liar and a slanderer , simple as . |
Ohwell User ID: 1130828 United Kingdom 03/22/2012 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also.. the bible says you wont understand ANYTHING without the holy spirit.. did you catch that? it's very important. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3578829 1 Cor 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us who are saved it is the power of God. Yet many denominations "that have the holy spirit" have many explanations as to what the bible actually means. Speaks well of the spirit being one, doesn't it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12623026 United States 03/22/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been a Bible believing Christian for over 35 years. I have spent time in church and out of church. I have spent years doubting my faith. And I have also spent years where I have experienced the true Spirit of God/Christ flowing through my life. Quoting: nightowl There are major differences within the churches and denominations as to whether or not they believe Scripture is the perfect word of God or not. Some Christians believe it is error-free and others believe it has some errors; but that the overall flow of the stories and documents reveal that God exists, that he is real, and that we have a spiritual significance while on earth and in the afterlife. Christians are who they are because of their spiritual relationship with God and with Christ. True Christians have accepted the spirit of God/Christ within them. There is always a struggle between the divine nature and the human nature within all Christians. However, if you watch a true Christ-seeking Christian over time, you will see that -- over the years and over time -- they become more and more Christlike. It is a life-long spiritual process. And, if I may say so -- it is WORTH IT! Believing that the Bible is error-free is not a requirement to be a Christian. It may be a requirement to be a member of a certain denomination. So this is what I am trying to say: If you want to know what Christianity means -- then start your own search. Seek Christ yourself. A good place to start is with the question.... "Who is Jesus Christ and what did he teach?" Start with that question - because that is the question that is most central to Christianity. Start reading the books of the Bible that tell about the life and teachings of Christ. Read the books of Matthew and Mark to start. Write down your thoughts and questions. Keep a journal of those thoughts and questions as you read. See what happens. Start with Christ and get to know the spirit of Christ (the Holy Spirit); and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth. Seek and you will find. It's amazing what lengths people will go to in order to cling to their irrational beliefs. Really amazing. There are many, many cultures unable to read and write. So the lack of this ability, which doesnt come naturally, is supposed to be what will probably lead them to hell. Whose benefit does reading the bible serve again? State or the individual? If the creator felt they needed that ability, he would have given them but he didnt and so it seems that TO READ to know about the creator is not a requirement he demands. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:14 , Never hear of Missionary's ? |
Reiz (OP) User ID: 1558128 Canada 03/22/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more an atheist RESEARCHES evolution Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3578829 the more he realizes it takes a lot more faith to believe in nothing came from nothing.. no macro evolution.. missing links etc... dna.. look up PPSIMMONS on youtube.. he's got many great videos Yeah, but there's no reason to bow down and worship that "something". That's always been my problem. Just because something exists doesn't mean it needs to be worshiped. Can't it just exist all on its own? He does and he doesn't require your worship to exist. Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; "as though he needed any thing" Well regardless I will always refuse to worship. If I wanna be a good person I'll just go out there and be a good person. I don't need a book to tell me that. Warning, spirits, aliens, and humans are prophetically impaired: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4585656 United States 03/22/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God had to kill himself to appease himself so that He wouldn't have to roast us, (His beloved creations) alive for all eternity. He loves us more than we can comprehend but, if we don't love him back, He will send us to Hell to suffer forever and ever. That really is AMAZING GRACE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4585656 Oh dear ! Yeshua is the Son of God . Just wow . And you are guilty of slander . Slander? How so? That's exactly the "master plan" that your Yahweh came up with to "redeem" humanity! I mean, who can blame him? He was obviously powerless to just simply make a decision to forgive and do it. No no, his crucifixion plan was much better! Yes slander ! Yeshua is not God for a start , he is the Son of God . Eternal hellfire is false doctrine too , the Wicked and rebellious will simply be annihilated , thrown into the lake of fire . You will not only be judged for your rejection of the Son of God but also for your transgressions of his holy law . You are a liar and a slanderer , simple as . LOL! For you to deny that Jesus is God makes you a heretic to the vast majority of Christians. You better watch out! The Inquisition will get you! |
Evan03 User ID: 9873825 United States 03/22/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12623026 Oh dear ! Yeshua is the Son of God . Just wow . And you are guilty of slander . Slander? How so? That's exactly the "master plan" that your Yahweh came up with to "redeem" humanity! I mean, who can blame him? He was obviously powerless to just simply make a decision to forgive and do it. No no, his crucifixion plan was much better! Yes slander ! Yeshua is not God for a start , he is the Son of God . Eternal hellfire is false doctrine too , the Wicked and rebellious will simply be annihilated , thrown into the lake of fire . You will not only be judged for your rejection of the Son of God but also for your transgressions of his holy law . You are a liar and a slanderer , simple as . LOL! For you to deny that Jesus is God makes you a heretic to the vast majority of Christians. You better watch out! The Inquisition will get you! I disagree with what he said, but why should he watch out. I will not judge him because he believes differently than me. you seem to enjoy doing that tho. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12623026 United States 03/22/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more an atheist RESEARCHES evolution Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3578829 the more he realizes it takes a lot more faith to believe in nothing came from nothing.. no macro evolution.. missing links etc... dna.. look up PPSIMMONS on youtube.. he's got many great videos Again... just because you disagree with Christianity doesn't automatically make you an atheist. I know you wish it were the case, so you could easily bash, but sadly it just isn't so. So what are you , a Pagan ? LOL ;) |
Ohwell User ID: 1130828 United Kingdom 03/22/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been a Bible believing Christian for over 35 years. I have spent time in church and out of church. I have spent years doubting my faith. And I have also spent years where I have experienced the true Spirit of God/Christ flowing through my life. Quoting: nightowl There are major differences within the churches and denominations as to whether or not they believe Scripture is the perfect word of God or not. Some Christians believe it is error-free and others believe it has some errors; but that the overall flow of the stories and documents reveal that God exists, that he is real, and that we have a spiritual significance while on earth and in the afterlife. Christians are who they are because of their spiritual relationship with God and with Christ. True Christians have accepted the spirit of God/Christ within them. There is always a struggle between the divine nature and the human nature within all Christians. However, if you watch a true Christ-seeking Christian over time, you will see that -- over the years and over time -- they become more and more Christlike. It is a life-long spiritual process. And, if I may say so -- it is WORTH IT! Believing that the Bible is error-free is not a requirement to be a Christian. It may be a requirement to be a member of a certain denomination. So this is what I am trying to say: If you want to know what Christianity means -- then start your own search. Seek Christ yourself. A good place to start is with the question.... "Who is Jesus Christ and what did he teach?" Start with that question - because that is the question that is most central to Christianity. Start reading the books of the Bible that tell about the life and teachings of Christ. Read the books of Matthew and Mark to start. Write down your thoughts and questions. Keep a journal of those thoughts and questions as you read. See what happens. Start with Christ and get to know the spirit of Christ (the Holy Spirit); and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth. Seek and you will find. It's amazing what lengths people will go to in order to cling to their irrational beliefs. Really amazing. There are many, many cultures unable to read and write. So the lack of this ability, which doesnt come naturally, is supposed to be what will probably lead them to hell. Whose benefit does reading the bible serve again? State or the individual? If the creator felt they needed that ability, he would have given them but he didnt and so it seems that TO READ to know about the creator is not a requirement he demands. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:14 , Never hear of Missionary's ? Yeah, because they wanna brainwash and capture your souls. And with all that is happening around the world, you think that has been accomplished. You need to travel around the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099 United States 03/22/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's one for ya: Were humans created before the animals? Correct answer: NO Here is the order that everything was created: Day one: Light & Dark Day two: Separation of "waters" Day three: land masses & seas and all vegetation Day four: two great lights plus star markers, rotation of night and day Day five: fish and birds Day six: land animals/livestock, then man Day seven: God rested Gen 1:1-31 THEN: God puts Adam and Eve in the garden. Trees start growing, etc. God teaches Adam to work the soil (agriculture) then He sent all the animals before Adam to be named. Then he makes woman. Gen 2:1-25 |
AlmustKnowe User ID: 6134468 Canada 03/22/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bah, I was going to argue how full of holes this video is and how its does nothing but show how uneducated the creator is of the bible, but alas I am to lazy to type everything out. I will point this out though, the first thing he mentions that the bible says no one has seen god yet Abraham and Moses have, ect. This is not the case, if he had actually read the passages he misquoted he would have found none of these people actually 'Saw' god. In the case of Moses, he had to hide behind a rock in god's presence for if he had looked upon god he would have died. Or how about when Moses had to talk to the burning bush? Was god there? Yes! But he wasn't there as what HE really is. That is the point I think many of you are missing when you fail to inform yourself by reading things in context but instead pick a few words out of a verse. God in all his splendor and glory cannot be seen, but god in a bush or in any form that we may understand can be seen because it is not what all of what HE is. I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf. |
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Reiz (OP) User ID: 1558128 Canada 03/22/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So far it supports my previous conclusions that a lot of people like to talk about goodness and all that, but few actually practice it and merely wish to feel superior and special. Warning, spirits, aliens, and humans are prophetically impaired: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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malfunkshun007 User ID: 1546982 United States 03/22/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone that has talked to me on here knows that i consider myself a Christian (although dont agree much the modern church). i have to admit this a funny video. i found it funny because i have strugled with the exact same thing many times in my study of the bible. i rushed through the video so i dont know if they covered this but one that always confused me was when samuel went to annoint david king of isreal. samuel was scared to go because saul would kill him and the Lord told him to tell saul he was going for the feast. which could have technically been true. but it was a partial truth. i dont know about you but i teach my kids that a partial truth is a lie. so was God telling samuel to lie? it seemed that way. i really had a rough time with this. i dont have an hour to go into my conclusion but let me give you a few points. everything is written with a context. it reminds me of a SNL skit one time where a boss at a nuke plant told the worker they could never put too much water in a nuke reactor and then he left. well it started to melt down and they didnt know if he meant it would be hazardous to add too much water or if it was impossible to add too much. now i know what you are thinking... why would God be elusive with His word? well why did Christ? also the bible was written by men and is deciphered and translated by men. take that as you will. an example would be different versions of the gospels. well if 4 people told the exact same story in court it is called colusion and thrown out. people are different with different interpretations. in academia original sources have to difer a little or they are not considered original but a copy. lastly is that the bible is a living word. it will speak to me differently almost everytime i read it with the same message. i dont expect nonbelievers to understand that. thats fine. my point is we could both read shakespear and then interpret it. well either we would both be right, or wrong, or one right and one wrong, or both wrong. but with the bible it applies to us and our calling differently. so we would both be right. make sense? i dont expect it to but it is the best i can with no time. sorry. hope it helps some. All morons hate it when you call them a moron. People always think something's all true. It's funny. All you have to do is say something nobody understands and they'll do practically anything you want them to. -Holden Caulfield |
Cryin Wont Help Ya User ID: 11334653 United States 03/22/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would ask if its proper GLP etiquette to bump your own thread but regardless of whether it is or not I guess that's what this post amounts to anyways. Quoting: Reiz Interesting stuff. Contradictions, open ended meanings come with the package of faith. The end result is numbness, not being human, being apathetic and a sheep. Why give us a brain if we are not gonna use it and be rational. The bible was designed to make humans biological robots without a soul. Hasn't it managed to accomplish this if we take a look around? Many have sold their souls by believing in stuff that actually defies logic with a high probability of it being false or at best an agenda. Either way people are following not what their soul tells them. God didn't give you a brian... Satan did that after the creation as trap. |
Shogu666 User ID: 1217094 Poland 03/22/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bah, I was going to argue how full of holes this video is and how its does nothing but show how uneducated the creator is of the bible, but alas I am to lazy to type everything out. Quoting: AlmustKnowe I will point this out though, the first thing he mentions that the bible says no one has seen god yet Abraham and Moses have, ect. This is not the case, if he had actually read the passages he misquoted he would have found none of these people actually 'Saw' god. In the case of Moses, he had to hide behind a rock in god's presence for if he had looked upon god he would have died. Or how about when Moses had to talk to the burning bush? Was god there? Yes! But he wasn't there as what HE really is. That is the point I think many of you are missing when you fail to inform yourself by reading things in context but instead pick a few words out of a verse. God in all his splendor and glory cannot be seen, but god in a bush or in any form that we may understand can be seen because it is not what all of what HE is. (Genesis 12: 7) The LORD appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring I will give this land." So he built an altar there to the LORD, who had appeared to him. Failed christiantard is fail. |
Evan03 User ID: 9873825 United States 03/22/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again... just because you disagree with Christianity doesn't automatically make you an atheist. I know you wish it were the case, so you could easily bash, but sadly it just isn't so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4585656 Christiantards are to delusional to get a grasp. I know, I'm lucky I know how to tie my shoes all by myself Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12762865 Australia 03/22/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got this video sent to me and thought it was hilarious and probably true. I personally do not own a bible and so cannot check the citations that run along the bottom of the screen but hey if you do I'd love to hear the results. Quoting: Reiz Yeah I'm still labeling this thread as "proof" because religions in general contradict themselves all the time. Like... talking a lot about love except hating all those who disagree with them so it would not surprise me at all to find that the Bible which was patched together over something like 3000-5000 years by something like 50-100 different authors would have more than a few contradictions. That's just logical. Bring on the bad karma, judging people on this site based on a little coloured bar in the corner is just plain ludicrous anyways. hear hear.. my thoughts as well.. the bible is full of contradictions and the believe they are the one and only valid religion around is absurd.. i am not a religious person, i think of myself as spiritual which is very different than following a book to tell me whats right or wrong.. all the 'rigid' religions should take BAHA'I as an example, a very open and honest, they accept all religions and believes, they believe there is one 'god', the only difference is, one calls him god the other calls him allah, vishnu or soem even call it global conciousness etc etc.. these people atleast know and act on the fact, that one should accept all people, without judging them for what they believe in or from which part of the world they come from.. these people actually do love and accept everyone as equal.. i suggest to all christians, catholics, muslims etc to take that as an example on how to love and respect thy neighbour.. |
OyVey User ID: 1371470 United States 03/22/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 40+ authors... most of them never knew each other Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3578829 consistant throughout... kjv that is lol, you're so deluded! Look up the scriptures in the video in your precious KJV! They contradict there too. still love you dood got no hate here.. bible makes you grow as a man.. Besides, folks it is written in our hearts.....the written word kills (corruption in the religious organizations)....the Spirit of the Word gives life. [link to www.e-sword.net] |
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AlmustKnowe User ID: 6134468 Canada 03/22/2012 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bah, I was going to argue how full of holes this video is and how its does nothing but show how uneducated the creator is of the bible, but alas I am to lazy to type everything out. Quoting: AlmustKnowe I will point this out though, the first thing he mentions that the bible says no one has seen god yet Abraham and Moses have, ect. This is not the case, if he had actually read the passages he misquoted he would have found none of these people actually 'Saw' god. In the case of Moses, he had to hide behind a rock in god's presence for if he had looked upon god he would have died. Or how about when Moses had to talk to the burning bush? Was god there? Yes! But he wasn't there as what HE really is. That is the point I think many of you are missing when you fail to inform yourself by reading things in context but instead pick a few words out of a verse. God in all his splendor and glory cannot be seen, but god in a bush or in any form that we may understand can be seen because it is not what all of what HE is. (Genesis 12: 7) The LORD appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring I will give this land." So he built an altar there to the LORD, who had appeared to him. Failed christiantard is fail. Please people, for the love of all that is good, read your damn bibles before commenting. Would you comment on an electrical schematic and try to prove how its wrong without first knowing something about the system? Probably not, because the engineer would laugh at you. I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7057750 United States 03/22/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again... just because you disagree with Christianity doesn't automatically make you an atheist. I know you wish it were the case, so you could easily bash, but sadly it just isn't so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4585656 Christiantards are to delusional to get a grasp. I know, I'm lucky I know how to tie my shoes all by myself you do knot |
Yikes! User ID: 1371470 United States 03/22/2012 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Genesis 12: 7) Quoting: Shogu666 The LORD appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring I will give this land." So he built an altar there to the LORD, who had appeared to him. Failed christiantard is fail. Father and Son is the issue there I think it is shear ignorance....an observation. You miss the point; When some Pharisees gathered together, Jesus asked them, "What do you think about the Messiah? Whose descendant is he?" "He is David's descendant," they answered. "Why, then," Jesus asked, "did the Spirit inspire David to call him 'Lord'? David said, 'The Lord said to my Lord: Sit here at my right side until I put your enemies under your feet.' If, then, David called him 'Lord,' how can the Messiah be David's descendant?" No one was able to give Jesus any answer, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions. (Matthew 22:41-46) |