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Immortality ... how the Gods/Aliens ... achieve it.

 
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Mary Magdalene (represents the Morning Star) as the Holy Vessel, she was the chalice that bore the royal lineage and the vine from which the scared fruit sprung forth.

The word Sangreal derives from San Greal - or Holy Grail but the most ancient spelling for the word Sang Real literally means Royal Blood.

The word rose is identical in English, French, German and many other languages.

Rose is also an anagram of Eros the Greek god of sexual love.

The Rose has always been the premiere symbol of female sexuality, the blossoming flower resembles the female genitalia.

The Priory of Sion to this day still worship Mary Magdalene as the Goddess, the Holy Grail and the Divine Mother. It says in the book the hiding place of the Grail is a tomb and the bones of Mary Magdalene. Womb and tomb had the exact same meaning in the past ... there was only one word to represent both of them.

The brotherhood has a more important duty than protecting Mary Magdalene's bones and that is to protect the bloodline itself, the living decedents.

The Rosslyn Chapel geographic coordinates fall precisely on the north-south meridian that runs through Glastonbury. The longitudinal Rose line, it is from this hallowed Rose line, that Rosslyn - originally spelled Roslin - takes it's name.

"Line of Rose" - the ancestral lineage of Mary Magdalene, relates to a Blood Line.

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"In Priory symbolism the Rose and the Grail are synonymous."

The Rose stood for secrecy. The Roman hung a rose over meeting to indicate the meeting was confidential. Attendees understood that whatever was said under the rose - or sub rosa - had to remain a secret.

Rosa rugosa, one of the oldest species of rose, has five petals and pentagonal symmetry, just like the guiding star of Venus, giving the Rose strong iconographic ties to womanhood. The Rose has ties to the five-pointed pentacle of Venus.

The Rose also had close ties to the concept of true direction and navigating one's way. The Compass Rose helped travelers navigate, as did Rose Lines, the longitudinal lines on maps. A Compass Rose's northernmost direction is still marked by an arrowhead ... or more commonly, the symbol of the fleur-de-lis. For this reason the Rose was a symbol that spoke of the Grail on many levels - secrecy, womanhood and guidance - the feminine chalice and guiding star that led to the secret truth.

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Demons and Devils.

devil

The bible explains a devil like this ...

Tob.6:7 And he said unto him, touching the heart and the liver, if a devil or an evil spirit trouble any,

So that could be no more than having a bad day or being in a bad mood or catching the flu. There is no evil as such.

It is being troubled by bad thoughts which we all get and we learn to have self guidance and ignore most of our no so good thoughts.

In the bible there are 122 references to the devil but usually to devils. You can read all of them here ...

[link to quod.lib.umich.edu]

The word devil and defiled seem to have complimentary meanings in the bible. The God's are looking for undefiled seed or non tainted seed. Seed holding true to an original type eg virgin seed. The bible talks about the devil having planted the bad seed. Really all this means is the bad seed is tainted, is not of the wanted type.

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Moving on now to probes and the symbols of them in the world.

The dragon has two but because things get muddled up in visions/dreams I can't be 100% sure that what I tell you here is absolutely correct ... I think Gods themselves have one and a phallus. Their one goes into the womb and is called the wine press from what I can gather. I think it is like a double snakes head at the top. Anyway here are some images of probes in the real world.

The Greek God Poseidon

Poseidon was relied upon by sailors for a safe voyage on the sea. Many men drowned horses in sacrifice of his honor. He lived on the ocean floor in a palace made of coral and gems, and drove a chariot pulled by horses. The trident a symbol of his power. Phallus in middle probes on either side.

Poseidon's trident


[link to salvatorejsalamone.com]

Gods Phallus is the most worshiped symbol of all time - an obelisk is a monument of Gods phallus so is a pyramid which is an upright triangle which stands for fire and BLADE = phallus.

These has been depicted and worshiped for thousands of years.

The Hindu God Shiva trident Shiva is also garnished with serpents which is what the probes look like and which is why God is often surrounded by serpents ... you will find them in all religious works.

:TTTTTTT:

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

A trident projecting from the head of baby Jesus on a Roman Catholic Madonna and child image. This in fact originally represented Queen Semiramis and Nimrod her husband/son. See the origin of sun worship and Babylon. Also notice the hand how it is displayed with two fingers and thumb prominent, another way of symbolizing the trident, a Satanic hand sign, symbolic of occult powers, also used by high Church officials and priests in various blessings invoking the sign of the cross by motioning their right hand with two fingers and thumb casually extended. It is also found in freemasonry of which origins can be found in the Catholic Church.

[link to www.markbeast.org]

The fleur de lis – is the combination of the Lilly at the bottom pointing downwards and the trident putting upwards and stylized like a Lilly / Lotus flower.

[link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]

"The fleur de lis meaning is a symbolic drawing of a lily or an iris. You will see it all over in European coats of arms and is really representative of the French.

And my persona favorite ...

Baphomet

Because Éliphas Lévi. Had the guts to go all the way and draw not only Gods phallus and probes but also his pouch .. Go Eliphas! Look carefully at the stomach you will see the rod phallus two probes and behind the pouch.

baph

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Which Eliphas dared to draw where it belonged, was also a symbol of Hermes the messenger of heaven

Caduceus

Medical symbol

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]


This pouch is shown in the world in different forms sometimes quite blatantly like in the Movie BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA

Here is a condensed clip showing you this imagery.

[link to www.youtube.com]

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LILIES / LOTUS FLOWER


flower23

Much of the bible is really quite carnal and to disguise this the elite came up with different terms. “Lilies” stands for entrances to a female body ie the vagina and anus. Rose stands for vagina.

Song of Solomon 2:1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.

Song of Solomon 7:2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat (mana bread Rev 2:17) set about with lilies.

Song of Solomon 6:3 I am my beloved's, and my beloved is mine: he feedeth among the lilies.

[link to carlos.emory.edu]

The lotus flower is a water lily which grows along the Nile. It opens at dawn, displays its blossom during the day, and closes at dusk.

The pure white lily has long been closely associated with the Virgin Mary especially the Easter Lily.

[link to www.appleseeds.org]

[link to www.huliq.com]

The DOVE also symbolizes the Virgin Mary.

dove

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The fertility of mortal human beings is symbolism for the seed of life.
Christ is the seed of life,that dies so it can become a tree,and become a part of that tree.

This life is short,but life eternal is only possible with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13240236


I have already asked people not to put their christian beliefs on my thread ... go post that stuff else where.

I know the bible very well, as well as the christian view point.

Don't try and stuff it down my throat. It you don't like what I am saying go and read something else.
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Isaiah 49:22 Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, (I think refers to other races no whites) and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

Isaiah 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me. (I personally take that to mean Babylon because it is Babylon that falls at the end of the world)

Isaiah 49:26
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

You see ... "feed them with their own flesh" ie the god drinks from the woman and then it is from this food that he then feeds her ... as in the food circulates.

Revelations 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Revelations 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

The Jewish God is promising this servants the sweet wine of the womb from those who live in Babylon ie White people.

It is confirmed in Revelations ...

Revelation 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

And ...

Revelation 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. (this is drunken with her own blood and flesh)

and ...

Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns (kingdoms) which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Remember the wine of the womb is flesh made liquid, just like breast milk is.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

John 6:56
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

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What I found above is no fluke, here is more of the same.

Mountain = Gods Phallus, same as blade etc.

Deuteronomy 33:19 They shall call the people unto the mountain; there they shall offer sacrifices of righteousness: for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas, and of treasures hid in the sand. (populous)

Ezekiel 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things. (women of a certain type)

2 Esdras 15:58 "They that be in the mountains shall die of hunger, and eat their own flesh, and drink their own blood, for very hunger of bread, and thirst of water."

Not a real death but this ...

Revelations 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Yeah right ... sometimes this shit really makes my blood boil. The way these women are spoken of is truly awful.

Christians however only stick their noses in the new testament and do not notice how it relates to the old testament.

What's worst is the world is full of idiot Christians who think well it's enough to just believe in the lord and then I shall have paradise ... if I am good and nice nothing can go wrong ...

The Jewish people and the Muslims know that is not true, they know servitude is required and someone has to be the scape goat!

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THE PURGE


Almost everyone on Earth will know that God is meant to have sent a huge flood across the Earth somewhere around 6,000 years ago but he saved some people who had the pure genes he wanted in an ARK. ... ie he purged the world of the unwanted people.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

PURGE

b (1) : to make free of something unwanted (2) : to free (as a boiler) of sediment or relieve (as a steam pipe) of trapped air by bleeding c (1) : to rid (as a nation or party) by a purge (2) : to get rid of

[link to www.merriam-webster.com]

The bible is full of the Judgement, the Harvest and “Alpha and Omega” which means the “beginning and ending of time,” which God claims to be. Ie he decides how long we run around like monkeys breeding here and when that stops and he starts the whole programme over again.

We also know he not interested in simply any old humans ... how do we know?

Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

But he saved Noah and his family … why?

Genesis 6:9
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

For further evidence of this harvesting of the perfect stock and the purge we find these verses …

John 15:2
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

That's pretty clear isn't it? It's called getting rid of the Dead Wood … or the useless eaters!

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

See simple ... if you are not of the right TYPE you are not safe from the gods and persecution if you are of the desired race and not up to scratch, into the fire with you. Only the very best will be kept.

So lets look at this in terms of Stock ... say I had 2,000 sheep and some of them made wonderful wool which is worth a lot but most of my sheep do not make this lovely wool and when they are mated with my precious sheep which do make this wool, they produced lambs which also don't make this wool. Well clearly something has to be done about this … it's an unacceptable situation, so what would I do about it? Well it's obvious isn't it, I would sort though the flock, work out which sheep have the right genetics and which don't and I would cull all the dead wood from the flock, leaving only the good wool producing sheep or ones which will produce good lambs if put to a good male for example because they carry some of the genetic material of the good sheep and many of their lambs will produce this good wool. Granted this may take me a while and it is more difficult than simply rubbing out the entire herd but precious stock must be saved.

If you go though the bible you will find countless verses where Jesus says almost exactly this. Many religious people think it is simply a parable, a figure of speech … like hell it is ... it is not.

Even Jesus said to his disciples that there is a secret to the parable ie they are not exactly as he is saying …

Mark 4:10
And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

The reason Jesus did this is because he felt people could not handle the truth …

1 Corinthians 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

The whole idea of a being which is in the image of man, keeping a huge flock simply because they licked his boots is ridiculous … if God is like man, then clearly he would not be the least bit interested in the boot lickers but rather in a product which has some value.


The bible in fact clearly tells us this truth

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (farmer)

In other words the blood line of Jesus is the desired vine or crop and God is the Farmer or Vineyard owner.

There are countless repetitions in the bible where it is clearly stated, God is an absentee vineyard owner and he will return to HARVEST - “his” stock, or rather vine. Grapes = People.

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Christians need to really read the bible, not defend it endlessly without even studying it.

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If God is so wonderful why is it he did all the killing and Satan did no killing, how exactly has Satan deceived?



Here is what God got up to ...



This God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.


It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).


He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married.


When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered


You can do the math

God's Hit List (those murdered by God directly or by his orders):

The entire population of the earth except for eight survivors (Genesis 7:23).

Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gomorrah except for one family (Genesis 19:24).

Every first born of Egypt (Exodus 12:29).

All the hosts of the Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots (Exodus 14:27,28).

Amalek and his people (Exodus 17:11,16).

3,000 Israelites (Exodus 32:27).

250 Levite princes who had challenged the leadership of Moses (Numbers 16:1-40).

14,700 jewish people in a plague who had rebelled against Moses following the killing of the princes (Numbers 16:41-49).
All the subjects of Og (Numbers 21:34, 35).

24,000 Israelites who lived with Moabite women (Numbers 25:4, 9).

All the males, kings, and non-virgin females of the Midianites. (Numbers 31:7, 8).

The Ammonites (Deuteronomy 2:19-21).

The Horims (Deuteronomy 2:22).

All the citizens of Jericho, except for a prostitute and her family (Joshua 6).

12,000 citizens of Ai. Joshua hung the king on a tree. (Joshua 8:1-30).

All the people of Makkedah (Joshua 10:28).
All the people of Libnah (Joshua 10:29, 30).
All the people of Gezer (Joshua 10:33).
All the people of Lachish (Joshua 10:32).
All the people of Eglon (Joshua 10:34, 35).
All the people of Hebron (Joshua 10:36, 37).
All the inhabitants of the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs and all their kings (Joshua 10:40).

All 31 kings and inhabitants of their countries, and the south country, and the land of Goshen, and the valley, and the plain, and the mountain of Israel, and the valley of the same from Mt. Halak to Mt. Hermon (Joshua 11:12, 16, 17, 12:24).


10,000 Moabites (Judges 3:29).
10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites (Judges 1:4).
600 Phillistines (Judges 3:31).
All of Sisera (Judges 4:16).
120,000 Midianites (Judges 8:10).
25,100 Benjaminites (Judges 20:35).
50,070 people of Bethshemesh (I Samuel 6:19).
All the Amalekites (I Samuel 15:3, 7).
The armies and five kings of the Amorites (Amos 3:2).
The Moabites and 22,000 Syrians (II Samuel 8:2, 5, 6, 14).
40,000 Syrian horsemen (II Samuel 10:18).
100,000 Syrian footmen, followed by 27,000 who were crushed by a wall (I Kings 20:28, 29, 30).
42 children eaten by bears (II Kings 2:23, 24).
185,000 Assyrians killed by an angel (II Kings 19:35).
10,000 Edomites, followed by 10,000 more whose killers brought them to the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they were broken in pieces. (II Chronicles 28).
120,000 Judeans (II Chronicles 28).
75,000 Persians (Esther 9:16).



God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).


Oh yes isn't he wonderful.


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And now Satan let's see what he got up to ...


Satan is only mentioned 57 times, in the bible


The only slightly evil thing he ever does is give one man some boils! Here is every reference in the bible.



1Chr.21

[1] And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Job.1

[6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
[7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
[8] And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
[9] Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
[12] And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

Job.2

[1] Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
[2] And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
[3] And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
[4] And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
[6] And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
[7] So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Pss.109

[6] Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

Zech.3

[1] And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
[2] And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Sir.21

[27] When the ungodly curseth Satan, he curseth his own soul.

Matt.4

[10] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matt.12

[26] And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Matt.16

[23] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mark.1

[13] And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Mark.3

[23] And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
[26] And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

Mark.4

[15] And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Mark.8

[33] But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Luke.4

[8] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Luke.10

[18] And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Luke.11

[18] If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

Luke.13

[16] And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Luke.22

[3] Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
[31] And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

John.13

[27] And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Acts.5

[3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Acts.26

[18] To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Rom.16

[20] And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

1Cor.5

[5] To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1Cor.7

[5] Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

2Cor.2

[11] Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

2Cor.11

[14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Cor.12

[7] And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

1Thes.2

[18] Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

2Thes.2

[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

1Tim.1

[20] Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

1Tim.5

[15] For some are already turned aside after Satan.

Rev.2

[9] I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jewish people, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
[13] I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
[24] But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Rev.3

[9] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are jewish people, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Rev.12

[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev.20

[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

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I suspected the truth is not held in one book but rather three?

The bible
The Koran
The Jewish Tamid

Here is just one example which shows how something is painted as evil and hidden as such in the bible while not so in the Koran.

Chapter 3 The family of Imran - Aal-e-Imran: Verses 37-38

Talking of the Virgin Mary


Right graciously did her Lord accept her: He made her grow in purity and beauty: To the care of Zakariya was she assigned. Every time that he entered (Her) chamber to see her, He found her supplied with sustenance. He said: "O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?" She said: "From Allah: for Allah Provides sustenance to whom He pleases without measure." There did Zakariya pray to his Lord, saying: "O my Lord! Grant unto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer!

Well and now lets she what the bible says ...

Revelations 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Well, that's quite different ...

Fire of course as mentioned earlier, means to transform alter or purify. As in "Gold tried by Fire", means to remove the impurities from it.

So this confirms for me that the bible really is the elites secrets hidden in plain sight ... hidden in three books?

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I was just checking though the use of the term WORM in the bible.

It is highly disturbing.

Judith 16:17 Woe to the nations that rise up against my kindred! the Lord Almighty will take vengeance of them in the day of judgment, in putting fire and worms in their flesh; and they shall feel them, and weep for ever.

The bible does not finish there ...

Isaiah 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.


Sir.7:17 Humble thyself greatly: for the vengeance of the ungodly is fire and worms.

Mark 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Revelation 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Now the Falling Star is the Morning Star, these women are symbolized by one woman or the seed woman of the line ... Who comes from the original Christ as in Morning Star. Revelations 12. In the above verse they are called Wormwood,

Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm? They are saying Jesus is a worm?

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The below is from an interesting Jewish web site and may provide the answer to the WORM? Seeing as the jewish people wrote the bible and in it is their hidden symbolism.

JEWISH UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORM

The immortal angel is the fiery grub, the chrysalis of the soul. The flesh is the cocoon. The transformations that occur in life are not from one thing to another thing; they occur within the same thing. It is by virtue of this fact that the angelic sons of Elohim, seeing that the daughters of mankind were fair, were able to father sons of them.

The angel is the first formulation of Spirit. It is naked fire. Delineated as a spark from the consuming fire of HaShem, the angel seeks a house but is incapable, on its own, of inhabiting one without causing its ultimate dissolution. The angel is a pillar of fire, a tongue of fire, a worm of fire. It achieves stability only when positioned in a lamp. Knowing this to be true, the angels rejoiced at the creation of earth.

"Worm" is a fitting metaphor for fire, which is the natural element of the angelic. A worm is all slopes-- all eshdat, "the manner of fire." It climbs tentatively, it burrows, it consumes its path.
Divided, it is cloned. Water, in its free state, is its natural peril.

When the angel enters the cocoon of flesh in an incarnation, the life of the soul commences with the first breath; however, the soul's life at birth is but the beginning of a process of transformations leading unto eternal life. The destiny is certain, but the stages along the way depend upon the soul's progress in the will of YHWH. When that which is perfect is come, the imperfect stages fall away. We have a foretaste of this truth even now, as we daily move, from stage to stage, towards perfection.

Air is spirit; spirit is life; and the life of the body is in the blood: the air and the fire/angel/ish inhabit the blood-- commingling there, even as in natural combustion, wherein the air/spirit maintains constant transaction with the fire/angel. Without the spirit and the fire, the body must die and the soul must be surrendered to the judgment.

The angel's immortality consists of its inseverable link to the Spirit of HaShem: the angels are His words, even as Yahushúa is His Word; and they do not fall to the ground in vain. The body's mortality consists of its dependency on the light energies belonging to the incarnated angel. Through means of the body, the immortal angel puts on mortality; and by means of the perfected soul, the naked angel gains an immortal garment of soul, a celestial body.

In an incarnation, as the blood (lake of fire) interacts with the cells of the body, the soul is energized: the sentient capabilities of the cocoon/flesh are activated, and the life of the angel becomes manifest in the faculties of the host shell (body). Thus, we see soul as the expression of the life within; and it is that. But it is also more than that: the body/cocoon is a womb both inhabited and, in a sense, impregnated by the angel; and the soul (butterfly, celestial body of light) is the embryonic child of that union.

The lake of fire above is HaShem. He sends forth His angels/sparks by means of the holy flame of His Word: He speaks them, breathes them: one by one, He sends them forth to the earth. It is these sparks of HaShem that become man/ish. As man/adam, the flesh/adamah glows with the light of the fire/divine spark/ish incarnated within the cocoon of the earthen tabernacle. This glow is soul as expression.

As an expression , the soul is the son/work of man/adam (Ps. 8:4): the glow within is seen without. As an enformulation/child , soul is the Son of Man/enosh (Ps. 144:3): the angel is renewed/ transformed by means of mortal experience unto attainment of an immortal garment suitable to its immortal state of being.

A woman/isha ("garment"/the flesh) encompasses a man/ish ("fire being"); and this woman dies (is extended) in childbirth, transforming the man by her extension. That which we have been is the womb of our becoming. The emergence is Zerach, a "lifting of the light." Zerach-- the emergence of the light body (soul)-- appears first, but is quickly swallowed up by Peretz-- by faulty expressions (soul) engendered in the experience of mortality/enosh. When those expressions have been fully comprehended and measured, they are overcome; and Zerach is, at last, truly born.

An imperfect son of mortality/enosh clings to the mortal and perishes with it: such a son is stillborn. In the metaphor of Peretz/Zerach, it does not gain the inheritance/birthright of the firstborn. A perfected son of mortality puts on immortality and rises from the cocoon of the flesh in an imperishable form, the body of light. The scarlet thread-- the karmic trail of blood/life-- accompanies the elect son (Zerach) through all of his struggles with Peretz in the cocoon/womb/flesh.

Not every incarnation produces a butterfly (perfected soul/light body): adversity exists; impairments occur. The angel who fails to complete its transformations in an incarnation is not lost, however: it remains immortal, a spark of HaShem. It is gathered, again, into the lake of fire above, where it is purged and purified. The aborted soul that was in process of creation in an incarnation but that failed to reach perfection is lost; but that loss does not involve the life of the angel. The immortal angel can be sent forth again, into a new cocoon.

[link to www.crowndiamond.org]

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I am completely in awe of this thread.

Stunned silent.

I know you speak the truth.

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What I have written about in this thread maybe related to the Voynich manuscript which was found.

Look right down the page and you will note them making some concoction with women in water.

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This concept of offering up a human sacrifice or offering has programmed in from the beginning of the Bible.


References to the sacrificial lamb, in order in the bible


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In the beginning God said if you eat of the tree of knowledge you will surely die and the serpent beguiled Eve and said no you will be knowing of good and bad.

Both were telling the truth. The apple = God DNA to become DNA linked to God. Now this has an upside and a down side. The up side is you become smart and the downside is God then has you on his hit list to be harvested.

You could say why would God do this to his own seed? As I have said at the beginning of this thread, to be harvested is not to be killed. It is a joining, being hung on the symbolic tree / cross. I'll skip that bit for the moment and just show you the sacrificial lamb references.


Cain and Abel


Cain's offering of fruit was rejected, he was the son of God, not Abel he was the first one son. But God rejected him and cast him out.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Genesis 4:3
And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

Genesis 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:


Genesis 4:5
But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.


Genesis 4:12
When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

Genesis 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.


Genesis 4:14
Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.


Genesis 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

So we see right from the beginning of the bible an offering is required by the lord. Notice God did not favour his own son but set him up to be a vagabond on the Earth. He favoured the shepherd, he who would aid him in the harvest at the end of the world.


The lamb is a symbolic substitute for a human, as shown in Genesis.


Isaac was not Abraham's first born, he therefore did not qualify for the symbolic first fruit offering and we see a substitute or symbol of a first fruit in the Ram..


Genesis 22:2
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

Genesis 22:8
And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.


Abraham was obedient in listening to the command of our God, and just as he lifted his knife, a voice from heaven stopped him with these words: “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him"..... in that moment Abraham sees a ram in the thicket. God had indeed provided the lamb.


Genesis 22:13
And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.


The scape goat absolves sins.


Leviticus 16:21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

From the above we see “Lot” was in fact the scape goat and his seed was kept pure by his daughters who dwelt in the cave with him and each bore him a son.

Below is the real message of the Bible “Do my bidding and I will reward you and let you go free and you will be absolved of all your sins!” These people do not have to worry about how much killing and lying they do ... as long as they do God's bidding, all will be forgiven. They have their scapegoats!

Leviticus 16:9 And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD's lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering. 16:10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

Leviticus 16:21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

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“The Passover Lamb”


This is the same message as above “Provide me with my offering and I will “passover” you when it comes to the judgement.

The first lamb offering really is people (firstfruits) as we know and in the book of Moses this is clearly shown.

Exodus 12:3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

Exodus 12:4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.

Exodus 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:

Exodus 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

Exodus 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

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Exodus 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

Exodus 12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.

Exodus 12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.

Exodus 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD's passover.

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

So again we see the “Lamb” is a substitute for a human, a symbolic offering.

Notice after giving the offering which is only thinly veiled substitute for firstling humans, they are given the keys to the city gates they get to leave. None of the plagues settled on them and the waters were parted for them and only they could enter the promised land. There they were feed the mana from heaven. Later this was shown not to be the real thing but rather symbolism.


John.6:32
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.


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Then we come to the new testament …

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Here we see the Lamb is indeed a man, the Son of God who is also the Son of Man.


Gospel of John
-- The Lamb is announced by John the Baptist, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" (Note this is before the Jewish people had any thought of killing him.)

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.


John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

The below paragraph tells us that we were redeemed with the precious blood of Christ, as of a Lamb "without blemish and without spot."

Remember Gods crop has no spot (birth mark) the spotted belong to man. I think the below verse relates to the 33 degree masons level. The knowledge acquired there.

Genesis 30:33
So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me.

Dead Sea Scrolls ...

Deuteronomy 32:8 When the Most High (EL ELYON) gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. [bene ha 'elohim]

Deuteronomy 32:9 But YHWH’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. (Gods are white without spot, birth mark ie pure and Jacobs are brown or with spot.)

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1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,


The incident of the Ethiopian official travelling in his chariot on the Gaza road from Jerusalem and reading about the Lamb in Isaiah 53, to whom Phillip explains that the Lamb is Jesus the Messiah.


Acts 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

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Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.


The vision that dramatizes the enthronement of the Lamb in heaven!

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Revelations 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.


Revelation 21 & 22--The final vision of the Apocalypse, in which the Lamb is seen reigning in the New Jerusalem, amid "the new heaven and new earth."



Revelations 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.


Revelations 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

Hebrews 9:22
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

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Revelations 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Revelations 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Revelations 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.


It is the "Blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses us of all sin"


1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Revelations 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

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Revelations 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Revelations 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the World. (foundation = genesis = Cain / Jesus)

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The Rewards.

First off this is what happens to the females who are collected --- it only happens to Females. Which is why Venus is a female. Venus = Morning Star = Lilith

John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said,out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

Song of Solomon 7:2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.

Song of Solomon 2:16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.

Song of Solomon 4:16 Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

Right so what to shepherds of the first fruits lambs receive ie those who attended to the crop …

Revelations 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelations 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelations 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Revelations 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Revelations 2:28 And I will give him the Morning Star.


As we all know ...


John 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:55
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

Mark 14:22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.

Mark 14:23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.

Mark 14:24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.

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“The flock without Spot.”

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Genesis 30:33 So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me.

Numbers 19:2 This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke:

Above is liken to Christ.

In the New Testament, the phrases "without the gate" (Hebrews 13:12) and "without the camp" (Numbers 19:3, Hebrews 13:13) have been taken to be not only an identification of Jesus with the Red Heifer,
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Numbers 19:9 And a man that is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer, and lay them up without the camp in a clean place, and it shall be kept for the congregation of the children of Israel for a water of separation: it is a purification for sin.

Job 11:15 For then shalt thou lift up thy face without spot; yea, thou shalt be stedfast, and shalt not fear:
Song of Solomon 4:7 Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee …

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The Scarlet Thread

Genesis 38:28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first,38:30 And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah.

The saved were marked by the scarlet thread ...

Joshua 2:18 Behold, when we come into the land, thou shalt bind this line of scarlet thread in the window which thou didst let us down by: and thou shalt bring thy father, and thy mother, and thy brethren, and all thy father's household, home unto thee.
The Morning Star woman, Venus equivalents, are so marked by the scarlet thread ...

Song of Solomon 4:3 Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks.

Line of Christ, as stated in Matthew 1 …

Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Judas, Phares (whose twin brother had the scarlet thread tied to him and was named Zarah) Aram, Aminadab, Naasson, Salmon, Booz, O'bed (of pagan Ruth), Jesse, David, Solomon, Roboam, Abia, Asa, Josaphat, Joatham, Ozias, Joatham, Achaz, Ezekias, Manasses, Amon, Josias, Jechonias, Salathiel, Zorobabel, Abiud, Eliakim, Azor, Sadoc, Achim, Elicud, Eleazar, Matthan, Jacob and then Joseph to whom was born Jesus who is called Christ.

In the above we see the same Jacob to Joseph connection. Joseph was the last saviour who was sold for twenty pieces of silver but this time is added Jesus.


Found this below on an interesting site …


These two laws, the one pertaining to the old man, and the other to the new, are as the sons-- words, works, formulations-- of Yahúdah (praise) by Tamar (upliftedness): they are as Zerach (arising) and Peretz (breach). These sons struggle together in the spiritual womb of the new creature, the struggle being congruent with the process of salvation itself: Zerach appears first, but succumbs to a falling away in the supplantive emergence of Peretz. Nevertheless, the election of the firstborn falls to him who bears the sign of the scarlet thread.

The appearance of the finger of Zerach is as the first sign/wonder of our experience of salvation. However, Zerach is withdrawn back into the womb in a great falling away on account of Peretz, who is as the karmic debt of the sinful soul that is the old man; and only after the full presentation of the parameters of Peretz is Zerach truly born.

Zerach's full measurement appears only in those who have overcome: who have faced the bones within and have fully returned life for life by the walk in Mashiyach. Thus, the perfection that appertains to humans is consummated by the true birth of the soul of the new creature, which is the Son of Man. Until the full manifestation of the sons of Elohim, we are "babes" in Christ-- embryonic heralds of that which is to come.

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Joseph was also a Savior

Joseph was sold for twenty pieces of silver by his brothers.

Thrown in a pit by his brothers and then sold into slavery.

He is one of twelve brothers and ends up saving his family.

He is also called Savior because he saves Egypt from famine as well.

Wilderness = Pit

Genesis 37:22 And Reuben said unto them, Shed no blood, but cast him into this pit that is in the wilderness, and lay no hand upon him; that he might rid him out of their hands, to deliver him to his father again.

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Once the book is open the spotless will be offered up ...


Revelations 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Ezekiel 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

Ezekiel 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.

The sword phallic symbol will then bring light back into the world.

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.


The spotless like Christ redeem the rest.


1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

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The beginning of the bible is a collection of symbolic stories, many of these came from the Sumerian tablets.

I will post these hopefully in order.

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Abraham

Two sons, with different futures, who go on to form different nations.

The Egyptian woman who bore Abraham a son runs off when pregnant after Sarah, Abraham's wife is mean to her and God saves her ...


Genesis 16:7
And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

Ishmael's destiny ...

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Sarah, Abraham's wife and God get Abraham to cast Ishmael out ...

Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

God saves the boy in the wilderness when they run out of water and says …

Genesis 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation. 21:19 And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink. 21:20 And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer. 21:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.

Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

Genesis 25:12 Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's handmaid, bare unto Abraham: 25:13 And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, 25:14 And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa, 25:15 Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah: 25:16 These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations.


Below relates to Isaac, Abraham's second son.

Genesis 17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

Isaac's wife

Genesis 24:37 And my master made me swear, saying, Thou shalt not take a wife to my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, in whose land I dwell:

Genesis 24:48 And I bowed down my head, and worshipped the LORD, and blessed the LORD God of my master Abraham, which had led me in the right way to take my master's brother's daughter unto his son.


Genesis 25:20 And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian. 25:21 And Isaac entreated the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the LORD was entreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived. 25:22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to inquire of the LORD. 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger. 25:24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb. 25:25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau. 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.


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“Jacob, and Esau”

Jacob's blessing before he became known as “Israel.”

Genesis 27:28 Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine: 27:29 Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother's sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee. 27:30 And it came to pass, as soon as Isaac had made an end of blessing Jacob, and Jacob was yet scarce gone out from the presence of Isaac his father, that Esau his brother came in from his hunting 27:31 And he also had made savory meat, and brought it unto his father, and said unto his father, Let my father arise, and eat of his son's venison, that thy soul may bless me. 27:32 And Isaac his father said unto him, Who art thou? And he said, I am thy son, thy firstborn Esau. 27:33 And Isaac trembled very exceedingly, and said, Who? where is he that hath taken venison, and brought it me, and I have eaten of all before thou camest, and have blessed him? yea, and he shall be blessed. 27:34 And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father. 27:35 And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing. 27:36 And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me? 27:37 And Isaac answered and said unto Esau, Behold, I have made him thy lord, and all his brethren have I given to him for servants; and with corn and wine have I sustained him: and what shall I do now unto thee, my son? 27:38 And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept. 27:39 And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above; 27:40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck. 27:41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

To Jacob Genesis 27:28 Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth,

To Esau 27:39 And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;


Adams sons formed different nations. Abraham's son's formed different nations with different futures. This is again repeated with Isaac's twin sons. Genesis repeats this motto over and over. It's the story of the foundation of the two different nations.



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Jacob takes the place of Abel, the shepherd and Esau becomes Cain, who goes on to form a different nation.

Jacob is the good shepherd.

Genesis 30:33 So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me.


ie all those who are brown or black or have a birth mark or some kind of blemish belong to mankind or one nation, the rest to God.


Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 32.29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 32.30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: (pineal) for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.


Genesis 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. 35:11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins; 35:12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.

Israel is therefore not a place, it equals the peoples of the world who are not white, without blemish or spot. The peoples of this Earth who are white and without blemish, do not belong to mankind but to god kind. Every time a white woman births a mixed race child, that is one for the tribe of Jacob, now Israel. Jacob said he would give god 10 percent white people are now about 10 percent of the worlds population. They belong not to the tribe of Israel but they are theirs to trade.

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Constantine called the Council of Nicea —the first general council of the Christian church, 325 A.D.—primarily because he feared that disputes within the church would cause disorder within the empire. The dispute in mind was Arianism, which was the belief that Jesus was a created being. The famous phrase they were disputing was, "There was when He was not."
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Meaning way back in time, not long after the supposed time of Jesus, people knew Jesus, the man, did not really exist.

There is almost no historical evidence of Jesus. Famous historians at the time did not mention him.

So if Jesus did not live 2,000 years ago and the story is simply told to sell a message ... what is the message?


Jesus tells us he will disclose secrets which have been hidden from the foundation of the world in his parables ...


Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.


I have done a thread which showed how Jesus was a false prophet in this i mean he was a symbol and via him many have been lead astray.

Thread: JESUS is the FALSE PROPHET and the ANTI-CHRIST.

and I did this one

Thread: The TRUTH about SATAN and LUCIFER

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