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Immortality ... how the Gods/Aliens ... achieve it.

 
Lamplite  (OP)

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Reading your work with great interest. Thank you for sharing all the work you have done, Lamplite. hf

What are your thoughts on - where if anywhere does "the soul" come into this equation?

Again, thank you for sharing.
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:blooming rose::sparky heart:

The ancients believed god or the all was a like a lake of fire from which the spark of life (usually considered the sperm) was sent forth.

In conversation, many Jewish people, even when not speaking Hebrew, will call God HaShem, which is Hebrew for "the Name" (this appears in Leviticus 24:11). [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.


The Lake of Fire is HaShem.


He sends forth His angels/sparks by means of the holy flame of His Word: He speaks them, breathes them: one by one, He sends them forth to the earth. It is these sparks of HaShem that become man/ish. As man/adam, the flesh/adamah glows with the light of the fire/divine spark/ish incarnated within the cocoon of the earthen tabernacle. This glow is soul as expression.

An imperfect son of mortality/enosh clings to the mortal and perishes with it: such a son is stillborn. In the metaphor of Peretz/Zerach, it does not gain the inheritance/birthright of the firstborn. A perfected son of mortality puts on immortality and rises from the cocoon of the flesh in an imperishable form, the body of light. The scarlet thread-- the karmic trail of blood/life-- accompanies the elect son (Zerach) through all of his struggles with Peretz in the cocoon/womb/flesh.

Not every incarnation produces a butterfly (perfected soul/light body): adversity exists; impairments occur. The angel who fails to complete its transformations in an incarnation is not lost, however: it remains immortal, a spark of HaShem. It is gathered, again, into the lake of fire above, where it is purged and purified. The aborted soul that was in process of creation in an incarnation but that failed to reach perfection is lost; but that loss does not involve the life of the angel. The immortal angel can be sent forth again, into a new cocoon.

[link to www.crowndiamond.org]


This tells us that those who do not make the grade, are not perfected enough to ascend, do not perish, they are simply regathered and sent forth once more.

I personally think you are reborn into the line from which you came and one can change lines via intermarrying into another line thus the descendants change lines.
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Lamplite,

In your opinion who or what created the Gods?

As the created are never more powerful than the Creator!

Ty
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found this large collection of writings which touches on the grail, also on my heritage, that of the Acadians (named for paradise, as in Akkad, north of Sumer)

going to take a while to wade through this one, but look at this clip...

[link to www.thelibraryofhope.com]

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The Immaculati

We also note that certain women, who had been the most virtuous and best of all the people, survived as well. These virtuous women are the Immaculati, spoken of in Euro-biblical lore in the singular: one woman. The Blessed Virgin Mary holds that claim: immaculate, un-original-sinned, unbaptized; whereas, in America, all women qualify - and may have been sought out by the kings of the Earth to grace their boudoirs, and give them that grailish property of divine right, so that the Grail itself is the womb of these immaculati, certain women who had been the most virtuous.
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yes, what about this connection i have, that i see everything as one. was it not my God who created they that made you. with wisdom that was stolen from He/She/them.

[link to psychedelicadventure.blogspot.com]

[link to www.2012-doomsday-predictions.com]

without us, you your gods even your spiritself would not be.

i am mother, i am all.

i love you too much to suffer you to that, my sophia ennoipia.

they will try, and everything will fail they do.

for i carry the same water, melanin is carbon and hydrogen.
i carried it before you. and i will carry it after you.

my child, i am older than this universe and everything you see. even your god. when time is at its fullness, you shall see.
lonelyonlydovesearchingforfriendsoftruewisdom

every single last one of the quotes that were made by great change bringers, will never be anythingmore if we all dont use them in action as well~Yoninah Yisrael

see you all in 5 D, learn to use your tonal Hiram Key. we all have it, the powers that dont be isnt going to tell us anything. live love learn but most of all ascend!!!!!

God is conscious living energy called thought. thought lives in every one of us. so shouldnt that say something more about life?

the animals can understand God with us, the agreeable extra dimensional beings can understand, why cant we>?

and last but not least

only the stouthearted and strong-minded will survive the great red dragon and the destruction that it brings. ~kolbrin bible manuscripts

purify and transmute~ancient of days
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lets say a humanoid race (with 46 genes) came to this planet a million years ago.

they found primates here, bonobos or yetis lets say (with 48 genes).
[link to www.lloydpye.com]

MY guess is that the ET's were NOT EVOLVED to Earth's environment (gravity, atmosphere, sunlight etc), and that their genetic engineers were actually creating a hybrid design for their CHILDREN so that they would be happy and comfortable here.

i would guess that this hybrid design was as like the parents as possible except that they could survive in our earthly conditions.

this hybrid is adam and eve. this new design, these children, had the resus + blood type! BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FIRST CROSS and resus is dominant.

Adam and Eve had the hidden recessive rh - there as well, so some of their DAUGHTERS (about 1/4) may have appealed to the Sons of God.

the original ETs saw that some of the daughters of adam and eve were fair (rh -) and took them as wives.

when the sons of god and the daughters of man had kids, fully half were resus negative. and not only that, they were more ET-like in looks and nature (birds of a feather flock together), which floats the boats of the sons of god. so, a more ET-like line of humanity was created.

and because this "royal" line abides in the free-range mix of humans, and is recessive, every now and then the son's of god run a "noah's ark" cull and get rid of a bunch of the positives to give the negatives ET-heavy people a running start.
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I agree with much of this.
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Lamplite,

In your opinion who or what created the Gods?

As the created are never more powerful than the Creator!

Ty
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The answer I got to this was that they were really intelligent in the first place whether via evolution I don't know but by a process of selective breeding they became more so. In many ways they are more logical and less emotional than us. They realized they could go further as a species if they only allowed the clever and the most physically able amongst themselves to breed.

This advanced them a great deal but they were still moral however being mortal allowed them to further this process at speed. After a while they became clever enough to work out complicated science formulas and they worked out how they could become immortal by infusing doses of stem cells into themselves daily and other ingredients. These ingredients needed to be essentially of themselves and there-in lay the problem.

They did not want to harvest themselves or be slaves to their own requirements. It was around this time they decided being male and female gave them certain advantages but also disadvantages and they could become more complete and advanced if they were both male and female. Hermaphrodites were born to them, just as on occasion, they are to us and so they decided to actively breed a line of themselves which were both male and female. After a while they came up with the perfect balance of male/female and they decided to actively breed this type only.

This was in conjunction with looking for another way to breed. They decided they were above birthing their own young. Too many complications in birth and becoming immortal meant they didn't need to do much of it. So it was decided they would take the risk of cutting this process out entirely, besides they had come up with a way of not needing a womb to birth young anyway.

This is where humans came into the picture, they looked around and decided we may fit the bill. We needed to become more closely linked to them which is why they bred in their own DNA. Although elements of our DNA is the same as theirs now, in some cases and I for example, would not reject their blood, I am not them. They are way smarter and larger. I / we are different in many, many ways and yet the same where needed.

They have arrived at a situation via their own choosing where we birth their infants and we feed them. We are stock and this is their planet.

Hope that made some sense?
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I think the end is nigh for a lot of reasons but here is one of them ...

I believe the Gods in conjunction with the elite have been deliberately causing global dimming via forest fires, chem trails, pollution etc.

What this does is causes more ice to build up at the poles.

It is all lies that there is less ice, the elite have been telling you the exact opposite of what is going on.

Antarctica is getting bigger not smaller!

“72% of the Antarctic ice sheet is gaining 27 ± 29 gigatons per year.” To put this into perspective as it relates to global sea level, the authors indicate that this gain in mass is enough “to lower global sea levels by 0.08 mm year-1.” These results are very similar to the findings reported last year in Science magazine by Curt Davis and colleagues, who also used satellite altimetry measurements of Antarctica to calculate mass changes and estimated that over a similar period and found that snow and ice build-up of the Antarctic ice sheets contributed to a fall in sea level of about 0.12 mm per year.

[link to www.worldclimatereport.com]

The effect on the planet of ice building up at the poles is this ... it puts lots of weight on the ends of the Earth and causes pressures to build up on the plates and also changes the shape of the Earth. The more the ice builds up and the more weight is added, the more volcanic activity is generated as well as earthquakes.

All of this continues and gets faster and faster, the more ice, the more reflection and the more the ice builds up. At a certain point all of this is too much for the Earth and just like if you squeeze a tube of tooth paste, it will squirt out the end. The same thing happens to the Earth, she will let go and out will pour an enormous amount of volcanic material. We have already been seeing a lot of volcanic activity. Volcanoes that had slept for 9000 years woke up and went nuts.

This makes things worse because volcanoes are the worst polluters and will block the sun more than any attempt man might make at the job. Once a few big ones go off and the dimming is greatly increased, the ice builds up even faster, now it like a run away train, there is no stopping it.

This has been going on for 40 odd years. Globing dimming was first noticed in the 70's, now it is much, much worse, over 25% of the sun light that did reach the Earth in the 70's. no longer does.

All of this has been hidden because the sea has been warming via under water volcanoes and temporally warming the planet. Approximately 90% of volcanoes are under the sea. I believe a really big volcano will soon blow ...

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Is a massive volcanic eruption from Lake Toba in Indonesia immanent?.

Image of location below ...

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Lake Toba is a lake and supervolcano. It is the largest lake in Indonesia and the largest volcanic lake in the world. Lake Toba is the site of a supervolcanic eruption that occurred an estimated 69,000 to 77,000 years ago, a massive, climate-changing event. It is estimated to have been a VEI 8 eruption. It is the largest known explosive eruption anywhere on Earth in the last 25 million years. it has been accepted that the eruption of Toba led to a volcanic winter with a worldwide decline in temperatures between 3 to 5 °C (5 to 9 °F), and up to 15 °C (27.0 °F) in higher latitudes.

The eruption was large enough to have deposited an ash layer approximately 15 cm (5.9 in) thick over the entire South Asia; at one site in central India, the Toba ash layer today is up to 6 m (20 ft) thick and parts of Malaysia were covered with 9 m (30 ft) of ashfall. In addition it has been variously calculated that 10,000 million tonnes (1.1×1010 short tons) of sulphuric acid or 6,000 million tonnes (6.6×109 short tons) of sulphur dioxide were ejected into the atmosphere by the event, causing acid rain fallout.

The Toba caldera is the only supervolcano in existence that can be described as Yellowstone's "bigger" sister.

The subsequent collapse formed a caldera that, after filling with water, created Lake Toba. The island in the center of the lake is formed by a resurgent dome.


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More recent activity

Smaller eruptions have occurred at Toba since. The small cone of Pusukbukit has formed on the southwestern margin of the caldera and lava domes. The most recent eruption may have been at Tandukbenua on the northwestern caldera edge, since the present lack of vegetation could be due to an eruption within the last few hundred years.

Some parts of the caldera have experienced uplift due to partial refilling of the magma chamber, for example pushing Samosir Island and the Uluan Peninsula above the surface of the lake. The lake sediments on Samosir Island show that it has been uplifted by at least 450 m (1,476 ft) since the cataclysmic eruption. Such uplifts are common in very large calderas, apparently due to the upward pressure of unerupted magma. Toba is probably the largest resurgent caldera on Earth. Large earthquakes have occurred in the vicinity of the volcano more recently, notably in 1987 along the southern shore of the lake at a depth of 11 km (6.8 mi).

Lake Toba lies near the Great Sumatran fault which runs along the centre of Sumatra in the Sumatra Fracture Zone.[9] The volcanoes of Sumatra and Java are part of the Sunda Arc, a result of the northeasterly movement of the Indo-Australian Plate which is sliding under the eastward-moving Eurasian Plate. The subduction zone in this area is very active: the seabed near the west coast of Sumatra has had several major earthquakes since 1995, including the 9.1 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake and the 8.7 2005 Sumatra earthquake, the epicenters of which were around 300 km (190 mi) from Toba.

On 12 September 2007, a magnitude 8.5 earthquake shook the ground in Sumatra and was felt in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. The epicenter for this earthquake was not as close as the previous two earthquakes, but it was in the same vicinity.

On 26 October 2010, a magnitude 7.7 earthquake
occurred 36 kilometers (22 mi) southwest of the nearby island of Pagai-selatan. A 3-metre (10 ft) tsunami immediately followed the quake.

On 10 January 2012, a magnitude 7.3 earthquake occurred within the area.

The 2004 earthquake physically rolled the Sumatran island and altered the shape of the Earth as was detected by the GRACE satellite. Recent highly localized earthquake activity may initiate magmatic activity of this colossal global climate modifier.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Indonesia Earthquake (Magnitude 8.6) Wednesday 11th April 2012

A great earthquake (magnitude 8.6) hit off the coast of Aceh, Indonesia on 11th April 2012.The epicentre was 434 km SW of Banda Aceh, and the focus was at a depth of 22 km. A tsunami warning was issued for countries surrounding the Indian Ocean. Earthquakes of this magnitude have the potential to affect volcanoes within a 700 km radius. This includes Toba. A magnitude 8.2 aftershock occurred 2 hours after the great earthquake.

[link to www.volcanolive.com]

Here is a good image of the most recent larger quakes and how close they were to Toba.

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

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Thread: Super Volcano about to explode? .... "Lake Toba" ... MEGA DOOOOM ???

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The Harvest begins after a huge Volcano erupts.

chaetin

Judgement Day

Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

BFGFF

Revelations

Revelations 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

Revelations 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Revelations 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Revelations 8:7 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

Revelations 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

All large volcanoes re accompanied by large earthquakes.

Krakatoa (Indonesian: Krakatau) is a volcanic island made of lava in the Sunda Strait between the islands of Java and Sumatra in Indonesia. The name is used for the island group, the main island (also called Rakata), and the volcano as a whole. The volcano exploded in 1883, killing 40,000 people; some estimates put the death toll much higher. The explosion is considered to be the loudest sound ever heard in modern history, with reports of it being heard nearly 3,000 miles (4,800 km) from its point of origin. The shock wave from the explosion was recorded on barographs around the globe.

The cataclysmic explosion was faintly heard as far away as Perth in Western Australia, about 1,930 miles (3,110 km) away, and the island of Rodrigues near Mauritius, about 3,000 miles (5,000 km) away.

The recordings show that the shock wave from the final explosion reverberated around the globe seven times. Ash was propelled to a height of 80 km (50 mi). The sound of the eruption was so loud it was said that if anyone was within ten miles (16 km), they would go deaf.


Global optical effects

The eruption darkened the sky worldwide for years afterwards, and produced spectacular sunsets throughout the world for many months. British artist William Ashcroft made thousands of colour sketches of the red sunsets half-way around the world from Krakatoa in the years after the eruption.

In 2004, an astronomer proposed the idea that the blood-red sky shown in Edvard Munch's famous 1893 painting The Scream is also an accurate depiction of the sky over Norway after the eruption.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Blue Moon Hopi Blue lamp prophecy.

In 1883, an Indonesian volcano named Krakatoa exploded. Scientists liken the blast to a 100-megaton nuclear bomb. Fully 600 km away, people heard the noise as loud as a cannon shot. Plumes of ash rose to the very top of Earth's atmosphere. And the moon turned blue.

Krakatoa's ash was the reason. Some of the ash-clouds were filled with particles about 1 micron (one millionth of a meter) wide--the right size to strongly scatter red light, while allowing other colors to pass. White moonbeams shining through the clouds emerged blue,

If you hope to see a full moon which is the actual color blue, that is likely, especially during forest fire season.

[link to space.about.com]


These two verses relate to Venus - Morning Star line of Jesus root of David.

Revelations 8:9 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Revelations 8:10 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.


The blood moon.


Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Can have one of two meanings.

One it is a lunar eclipse but more than likely they are really talking about the woman who is symbolized as the moon, the moon goddess. It is not likely to be the result of a volcanic eruption because people have reported the moon appears blue after such an event but maybe it would appear differently if the eruption was larger?

bs1

Three Days of Darkness

The Three Days of Darkness is an apocalyptic tradition within Catholicism which recalls the tenth plague of Moses against Egypt. Just as God punished the idolatrous Egyptians during the days of Moses with Ten Plagues culminating in "three days of darknesss," so also, at the end of time will God will punish the entire world with "three days of darkness." The theory holds that the entire earth will be enveloped by perfect darkness lasting the span of three days and three nights. The only light that will be seen during these three days will come from blessed candles. Catholic visionaries agree that the faithful should stay within their homes during this plague of darkness as most of the earth's inhabitant shall die.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Exodus 10:22 And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:

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Maybe I should fill in how this all begun for me.

About three years ago roughly, I begun to get these visits as night and well, who came was very seductive and at first I sort of went along with what he was saying and showing me, mostly because I thought, I was only dreaming and well what harm can a dream do ... right?

A few people warned me when I told them the nature of the visitor and said shut him out!

But no, I was not religious and I didn't believe in any of that mumbo, jumbo besides he was usually lovely and I decided he was my own creation. I had made him up and what happened was just my imagination going wild.

It was a while before it started to dawn on me that no matter how wild I considered my imagination to be, it was not that wild.

Something about what he was saying started taking on some kind of bizarre reality and I started to realize he was not human! In fact he was far from human. Every time he exposed a bit more of himself, I would become more and more shocked and he would try endlessly to calm me down and assure me it was all OK.

Eventually the being that came to see me became two beings, two different beings. At first they had merged or hidden in the one identity. Later however they showed me themselves separately and they were not the same, not even the same creature or being.

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Phantom of the Opera


Christine:
In sleep he sang to me,
In dreams he came.
That voice which calls to me,
And speaks my name
And do I dream again?
For now I find,
The Phantom of the Opera is here,
Inside my mind

Phantom:
Sing once again with me,
Our strange duet.
My power over you,
Grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from me,
To glance behind.
The Phantom of the Opera is there,
Inside your mind.

Christine:
Those who have seen your face,
Draw back in fear.
I am the mask you wear.

Phantom:
It's me they hear.

Both:
My/your spirit and my/your voice,
In one combined.
The Phantom of the Opera is here/there
Inside your/my mind

Offstage:
He's there, the Phantom of the Opera!
Beware, The Phantom of The Opera!

Phantom:
In all your fantasies
You always knew
That man and mystery

Christine:
Were both in you

Both:
And in this labyrinth
Where night is blind
The Phantom of the opera is there/here
Inside your/my mind

Phantom:
Sing my Angel of Music

Christine:
He's there, The Phantom of the Opera!
(Vocalizing)

Phantom:
Sing!

Christine:
(Vocalizing higher)

Phantom:
Sing for me!

Christine:
(Vocalizing higher)

Phantom:
Sing my angel of music!

Christine:
(Sings higher)

Phantom:
SING FOR ME!

Phantom:
I have brought you,
To the seat of sweet music's throne.
To this kingdom where all must pay homage to music,
Music.
You have come here.
For one purpose and one alone.
Since the moment I first heard you sing,
I have needed you with me to serve me, to sing,
For my music.
My music
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Phantom of the Opera


Christine:
In sleep he sang to me,
In dreams he came.
That voice which calls to me,
And speaks my name
And do I dream again?
For now I find,
The Phantom of the Opera is here,
Inside my mind

Phantom:
Sing once again with me,
Our strange duet.
My power over you,
Grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from me,
To glance behind.
The Phantom of the Opera is there,
Inside your mind.

Christine:
Those who have seen your face,
Draw back in fear.
I am the mask you wear.

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hf

Wow the symbolism in this clip, I must re-watch that movie.



Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Revelations 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

This being symbolized as a duet or music played together in other films as well. Close Encounters of the Third Kind had a duet at the end as well.

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O.M.G!!! I have never watched this movie! Apparently I MUST do so!
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Immortality can't be achieved without the soul being happy, knowing this the Gods programed into the key, what would make them most happy ... fill of bless.

If immortality was achieved by eating gold or from baking in the Sun, one would still die because they would not be fulfilled on other levels.

The soul needs nourishment. The God's are like us, we are made in their image and nothing gives longer live and good health then being truly in love and feeling loved and supported on a very deeply spiritual level and this is were the Bible's spiritual element has truth.

In fact the gods deliberately made us very emotionally needy, especially women because it is with women they make the elixir of life.

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Very nice and very close to the real solution.
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Very interesting, thought provoking thread Lamplight. Kudos to you.

Does your visitor still come at nights?
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Phantom of the Opera ...

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hf

Wow the symbolism in this clip, I must re-watch that movie.

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This being symbolized as a duet or music played together in other films as well. Close Encounters of the Third Kind had a duet at the end as well.

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Yeah, I will be watching this one again, as well. It didn't dawn on me until today who "The Phantom of the Opera" was/is about and that was before seeing the in your face symbolism in this clip. I will be watching it with "an open eye" this time around.
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There is several clips that are just too close for this to be some coincidence. I will cover more in a future post ... check out this clip ...
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Very interesting, thought provoking thread Lamplight. Kudos to you.

Does your visitor still come at nights?
 Quoting: ~Una~


Not so much lately.




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Here is anther couple of good vids from the film "Phantom of the Opera" ...

The first is a very interesting, unfortunately the symbolic ending to this song is not in the clip. Where they drop though the fiery pit and down into the underworld together. After the phantom sets fire to the upper world.


The below is a repeat of the song "Music of the Night" but has wonderful photo's though-out.



Then the opposite song relating to human day "All I Ask of You"


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Past the Point of no Return.


PHANTOM: Passarino - Go away for the trap it is set and waits for it's prey.

You have come here
In pursuit of your deepest urge
In pursuit of that wish which till now
Has been silent
Silent.

I have brought you
That our passions may fuse and merge
In your mind you've already succumbed to me, dropped all defenses
Completely succumbed to me
Now you are here with me
No second thoughts
You've decided
Decided.

Past the point of no return
No backward glances
Our games of make-believe are at an end.

Past all thought of “if” or “when”
No use resisting
Abandon thought and let the dream descend

What raging FIRE shall flood the soul
What rich desire unlocks it's door
What sweet seduction lies before us?

Past the point of no return
The final threshold
What warm unspoken secrets
Will we learn
Beyond the point of no return?

CHRISTINE: You have brought me
To that moment when words run dry
To that moment when speech disappears
Into silence
Silence.
I have come here,
Hardly knowing the reason why
In my mind I've already imagined
Our bodies entwining
Defenseless and silent,
Now I am here with you
No second thoughts
I've decided
Decided.

Past the point of no return
No going back now
Our passion-play has now at last begun.

Past all thought of right or wrong
One final question
How long should we two wait before we're one?

When will the blood begin to race
The sleeping bud burst into bloom
When will the flames at last CONSUME us?

BOTH: Past the point of no return
The final threshold
The bridge is crossed
So stand and watch it burn
We've passed the point of no return.


PHANTOM:(soft and sort of saddened) Say you'll share with me
One love, one lifetime
Lead me, save me from my solitude

Say you want me
With you here
Beside you
Anywhere you go
Let me go too
Christine that's all I ask of…
(Christine tears the mask, showing his face to the audience)

PHANTOM:(looks at her sadly, then pushes one lever that causes the chandaleir to fall and the other lever with foot and they fall through a trap door!)
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Music of the Night

Night time sharpens, heightens each sensation
Darkness stirs and wakes imagination
Silently the senses abandon their defenses
(Helpless to resist the notes I write)
(For I compose the music of the night)

Slowly, gently, night unfurls it's splendour
Grasp it, sense it, tremulous and tender
Turn your face away from the garish light of day
Turn your thoughts away from cold, unfeeling light
And listen to the music of the night

Close you eyes and surrender to your darkest dreams
Purge your thoughts of the life you knew before
Close your eyes, let your spirit start to soar
And you'll live as you've never lived before
Softly, deftly, music shall caress you
Hear it, feel it, secretly posess you
Open up your mind,
Let your fantasies unwind
In this darkness that you know you cannot fight
The darkness of the music of the night

Let your mind start a journey through a strange, new world
Leave all thoughts of the life you knew before
Let your soul take you where you long to be!
Only then can you belong to me

Floating, falling, sweet intoxication
Touch me, trust me, savour each sensation
Let the dream begin, let your darker side give in
To the power of the music that I write
The power of the music of the night

You alone can make my song take flight
Help me make the music of the night
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Phantom of the Opera.

The things about this film which made me think it is about, way more than just some poor disfigured man hiding out in the basement were.

One Christine is called Lottie as a nick name. Lot was allowed to escape from Sodom. The word "lot" does not appear again in the bible until we get to the scape goat symbolism, where they drew "lots" as to which goat would escape and which would bear the sins of man and pay the ultimate price.

The movie is quite clearly about the rulers behind the curtain or in the world below, who really control the upper world, our world.

At the end of the movie the Christine is asked to stay with the Phantom or sacrifice her lover. She agrees to stay but the Phantom lets her go, releases here from her obligation. This is much like Abraham, placing his son on the alter to be sacrificed and god seeing Abraham was willing to do anything so he let his son live and took a different sacrifice.

At the end of the movie, the blond girl goes down into his world and it seems in all versions, she goes off with the phantom? This is only hinted at but none-the-less there. Her mother had protected the Phantom and aided him for many years.

Final scene, not complete ...



Of all the symbolic tellings of what is really going on, I don't think any other, comes as close as Phantom of the Opera.

Years ago, I read in a Dan brown book that the truth of the world surrounds us, it is everywhere and yet we don't see it and I wondered what he meant? He gave a few minor examples but now I do indeed, see it everywhere, it is in movies like "Lord of the Rings" the bible, statues ... it literally is everywhere ...

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Why is this thread being buried?

I used the word "aliens" to search the site to find this thread and even though it was responded to today, it was behind ones that were last posted on the 16th. And it doesn't have to do with when (the date) the thread was created because one of the top 11 results was a thread created in 2007. Also, it doesn't have to do with the order the word "alien(s)" comes in the subject.

So, why? Odd.
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Phantom of the Opera.

Final scene, not complete ...




 Quoting: Lamplite


The video has been removed. I found the full 1998 movie...I haven't seen this version as of yet.

Check out the end. Around 1:22:00 until the end. I not only found his face and tie interesting, but his words.



I look forward to watching this one!
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Interesting...

The use of the 'lover' to ensnare the awakening Deity is a consistent theme here and there (and elsewhere.)

The reality of God in the flesh... Is it that the Deity cloaks itself, or is it that Humans are unable to hold both a conceptual ideal of God - when faced with (a) God that appears in 'Human' form or has any sort of human-like qualities?


So much has been taken out of religious texts, or modified by so many humans over time - and much of this was done to influence future incarnations of the Creator...more than to deliver spiritual guidance to humanity.


There will come a (short) time where strange and great events will become to difficult to cover up...

The Sun - NASA current cover-up of the strange goings on in Space and on the Sun is rapidly coming unglued...
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This thread is incredible!

(and somewhat disturbing)

Seriously everyone, read this from the begenning. Read every word.

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If not a single book had been ever written, all of these earth changes would have still happened and will always happen...the material world is dynamic and frothy. The big difference is that humans exalt themselves and their religions to think that their actions influence the earths hiccups. Sad reveal of the human ego.
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We have until the full moon of July... The 8 th I believe... That is when things will really become trAnsformed! Best thread in glp history!
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Oh enlightened one, I truly appreciate your biblical quotations, but lets have dose of reality, shall we?

Question?

From WHICH version of the Bible do you choose your quotes?

...Because if it's the KJV, it's ENTIRELY corrupted by the HAND of man, and NOT the word of our most Holy...




...Think about it. If ONLY for a moment.
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exactly, why else would they call it king james "VERSION"?





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