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JackedVegan (OP) User ID: 9066073 United States 03/23/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 2nd Amendment hasn't disallowed tyranny nor enemy invaders. Therefore the govt isn't worried one bit about private arms...hence we're still allowed to own them. They've simply figured out a way to keep us from using them...which is a helluva lot easier than banning them and confiscating them. Thoughts? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11111244 United States 03/23/2012 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a solid point OP. At first I was optimistic that we could fix things working within the system. When that failed I had hoped people would rise up and fix things with a movement. When that failed I said fuck this, It's time to move to another country before this one winds up like Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. |
JackedVegan (OP) User ID: 9066073 United States 03/23/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a solid point OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11111244 At first I was optimistic that we could fix things working within the system. When that failed I had hoped people would rise up and fix things with a movement. When that failed I said fuck this, It's time to move to another country before this one winds up like Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. Yes but move where? Last Edited by JackedVegan on 03/23/2012 01:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548467 United States 03/23/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a solid point OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11111244 At first I was optimistic that we could fix things working within the system. When that failed I had hoped people would rise up and fix things with a movement. When that failed I said fuck this, It's time to move to another country before this one winds up like Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. This is the last bastion of freedom in the world. You had best be prepared to buckle down and fight for your freedom or give up. You will find no other place that offers as much freedom as you have here. The fact that is is being usurped is because we have neglected to be vigilant against tyranny. Se Vis Pacem Parabellum |
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Evan03 User ID: 9873825 United States 03/23/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think this day and age we could overthrow the gov. with only firearms. When seconds count...the police are only minutes away. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306067 United States 03/23/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hasn't the government slowly but surely taken our liberties right from under our noses? TSA, immense federal govt, no privacy, our Constitution shredded right before us! Quoting: JackedVegan Do we not have tens of millions of illegal invaders from foreign lands directly on our soil? All of this, and so much more, whilst have the 2nd amend and the largest number of private gun ownership this planet has ever known. Please don't construe this thread as me being anti-gun...in fact I'm a very proud gun owner and advocate for the Constitution. So again, what good has the 2nd Amendment done at preserving liberty? Our country would have been overrun long ago if not for the second amendment. In fact, judging by the raping of our constitution and all the illegal laws/EO's, that have been passed, the second amendment is the LAST WEAPON we now have in our arsenal. God help us all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 03/23/2012 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hasn't the government slowly but surely taken our liberties right from under our noses? TSA, immense federal govt, no privacy, our Constitution shredded right before us! Quoting: JackedVegan Do we not have tens of millions of illegal invaders from foreign lands directly on our soil? All of this, and so much more, whilst have the 2nd amend and the largest number of private gun ownership this planet has ever known. Please don't construe this thread as me being anti-gun...in fact I'm a very proud gun owner and advocate for the Constitution. So again, what good has the 2nd Amendment done at preserving liberty? you answered your own question. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12166361 Hong Kong 03/23/2012 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a solid point OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11111244 At first I was optimistic that we could fix things working within the system. When that failed I had hoped people would rise up and fix things with a movement. When that failed I said fuck this, It's time to move to another country before this one winds up like Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. This is the last bastion of freedom in the world. You had best be prepared to buckle down and fight for your freedom or give up. You will find no other place that offers as much freedom as you have here. The fact that is is being usurped is because we have neglected to be vigilant against tyranny. Se Vis Pacem Parabellum Are you nuts? America is a pretty invasive place to live, and has many,many, many laws that are used to control and sometimes extort the population. THere are many other countries in the world that are far less intrusive. |
LosTLocos User ID: 13053626 Spain 03/23/2012 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a solid point OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11111244 At first I was optimistic that we could fix things working within the system. When that failed I had hoped people would rise up and fix things with a movement. When that failed I said fuck this, It's time to move to another country before this one winds up like Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. This is the last bastion of freedom in the world. You had best be prepared to buckle down and fight for your freedom or give up. You will find no other place that offers as much freedom as you have here. The fact that is is being usurped is because we have neglected to be vigilant against tyranny. Se Vis Pacem Parabellum "This is the last bastion of freedom in the world" If you think you have freedom in the States, you are either delusional or brainwashed.. You vertually have no freedom left...The "patriot" act, The military commisions act, this new one with indefinate detention, now the pres can kill any American he deems a threat? Last bastion of freedom my ass! if anything you have the least freedoms in the industrialized world, check out the freedoms that Switzerland enjoys.... Unfortunately, the US has become a fascist police state, 2nd amendment or not! Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth. |
LosTLocos User ID: 13053626 Spain 03/23/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | once the government goes full retard, we will have something to at least try to fight back with. the question you should be asking is what WASNT done because we had guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015009 Just how many lines do you have to draw and for them to cross before you deem it a "full retard" situation? Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth. |
Nexus-9 User ID: 10705336 United States 03/23/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hasn't the government slowly but surely taken our liberties right from under our noses? TSA, immense federal govt, no privacy, our Constitution shredded right before us! Quoting: JackedVegan Do we not have tens of millions of illegal invaders from foreign lands directly on our soil? All of this, and so much more, whilst have the 2nd amend and the largest number of private gun ownership this planet has ever known. Please don't construe this thread as me being anti-gun...in fact I'm a very proud gun owner and advocate for the Constitution. So again, what good has the 2nd Amendment done at preserving liberty? I see what you're saying in that the Second Amendment has not prevented what appears to be the steady erosion of the Constitution, but let's look at what the Second Amendment says Second Amendment A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. What the Constitutional founders had the foresight to say is that the security of a free state requires a well regulated militia and the people of that state will have the right to bear arms, be that the people form that militia. But since modern times the milita is supplied arms by the state. Now, IMO if the powers of the state disenfranchises the people then the state no longer represents the people and that is where things get complicated, because who does the milita represent? The state that has disenfranchised the people or the people themselves? That is why I believe the Constitutional writers put in the provision that the people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed, because the powers of the state is subject to corruption and that corruption turns into tyranny, usually against the people. If anything, I see the Second Amendment as the line that must not be crossed because it could set up for a very bad reaction from the public, and too many people that suspect and debate "we're loosing our freedoms under the Constitution," it would be a blatant indicator that "we are" loosing our freedoms, and at which point I would have to agree. The Second Amendment has not prevented what is perceived as slowly loosing our rights, but if we are then one day it will have to be crossed and that's when people will know it's not some conspiracy. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13060067 United States 03/23/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So fuck you for being a stupid liberal and thinking guns are bad. Sillly liberal step into the real world. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8417061 United States 03/23/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because no American has ever shot and killed a home invader while exercising their 2nd amendment rights? Because no American has ever felt peace of mind while exercising their 2nd amendment right in public and felt comfort in knowing he/she has the ability to protect oneself from danger? Stop being so close-minded. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1015009 United States 03/23/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | once the government goes full retard, we will have something to at least try to fight back with. the question you should be asking is what WASNT done because we had guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015009 Just how many lines do you have to draw and for them to cross before you deem it a "full retard" situation? lol i think we are about there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13041604 United States 03/23/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hasn't the government slowly but surely taken our liberties right from under our noses? TSA, immense federal govt, no privacy, our Constitution shredded right before us! Quoting: JackedVegan Do we not have tens of millions of illegal invaders from foreign lands directly on our soil? All of this, and so much more, whilst have the 2nd amend and the largest number of private gun ownership this planet has ever known. Please don't construe this thread as me being anti-gun...in fact I'm a very proud gun owner and advocate for the Constitution. So again, what good has the 2nd Amendment done at preserving liberty? Our country would have been overrun long ago if not for the second amendment. In fact, judging by the raping of our constitution and all the illegal laws/EO's, that have been passed, the second amendment is the LAST WEAPON we now have in our arsenal. God help us all. I agree with you. I believe they are trying to figure out, by passing all these quiet laws under our noses, to take away our 2nd amendment, as OP said in first post. It is our last weapon - as you state. Just a matter of time through a false flag (imho) that will instigate martial law, and banning our weapons. It is then, chaos will ensue. |