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A question for the Americans..

 
Baldrick

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Interesting thread.

Good to see most here engaging in discussion rather than abusive assumpition.
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Turkey, I would like you to understand, we as a country used to know what value was. We fought and earned our freedom for ourselves. It wasn't handed to us from some all powerfull "God Government". We understood that value and freedom was earned through sacrifice and hard work, being accountable successes and failures.. We have lost Value in this country through entitlement and dependency.. So to assume that this government values you or anything would be a grave error..
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OP, was my post like a brick being slammed into your head? Certainly you have an opinion on this yet you do not comment?
How convenient for you to continue to chastise the Israelis when I spelled it out for you as to who the real power brokers are.
Do you not want to see the light? I'm trying to help you enter a new level of consciousness but I assume you don't want to walk down that path being where you are.
The truth is out there for you to see. You just have to open your eyes to view it.

Shalom!
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Interesting thread.

Good to see most here engaging in discussion rather than abusive assumpition.
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Go to hell you piece of Aussie Vege-Mite!

Just joking Around dude! Relax! You're my brother from another mother!
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Interesting thread.

Good to see most here engaging in discussion rather than abusive assumpition.
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Go to hell you piece of Aussie Vege-Mite!

Just joking Around dude! Relax! You're my brother from another mother!
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chuckle
:dork:
australia
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Interesting thread.

Good to see most here engaging in discussion rather than abusive assumpition.
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Go to hell you piece of Aussie Vege-Mite!

Just joking Around dude! Relax! You're my brother from another mother!
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chuckle
:dork:
:australia:
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dasbier

lol
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They are human beings, just like me. I love them, and wish them well. There are however some problematic one's who need to cease what they are doing immediately. I do not wish any harm on the Israelis, I just want the bullshit political games to stop.
My friends, we are all living in extraordinary interesting times. The events to come will undoubtedly be some of the most important in our history. Embrace the change to come.

I love you all!
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Britian is the U.S. closest allied
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How much money do we give to Israel each year?
How much money do we give to the UK each year? (hint: not much, if any)

UK is our #1 ally, but Israel gets the dough, which by the US gooberment definition means Israel is our #1 friend.
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Seems that OP was shut down! How about this OP?

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~THE IRANIAN~ (OP)

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speaking as one and not as many, tis nothing to me. And more likely than not, most people don't care because they live here in their worlds. Whatever's gooin on in the outside world doesnt really matter to them just as long as it doesn't directly affect them. What's your opinion?
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I think that Israel is controlling your government inch by inch. I think whatever happens in Israel has a straight affect in the U.S
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


That's where you're wrong Ishtar! Saudi Arabia has donated nearly $80 Billion to the US political machine over the last ten years. Israel has donated some $7 Billion over that same time. Based off of those numbers, who controls govt policy?

It's time for you to wake up my friend. America didn't go to war with iraq because of Israel's insistence. We warred with Iraq to benefit Saudi Arabia and the banksters.
Why do you think the shit is gonna hit the fan with Iran? Not because of the Israelis! It's because the Shiites are a threat to Saudi Arabia and the banksters.

One phrase constantly spoken in America is, "Follow the money". We aren't going to war because of a nuclear bomb. We are going because certain unsavory people want to control their money or gain a greater share of the pie.
That's the truth, Mo!
Israel is like the neighbor's kid that we have to walk to school every day to keep him from getting beat up!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Great post! I agree with you, but the ones in control of your Government are the ones who established Israel!
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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speaking as one and not as many, tis nothing to me. And more likely than not, most people don't care because they live here in their worlds. Whatever's gooin on in the outside world doesnt really matter to them just as long as it doesn't directly affect them. What's your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11283921


I think that Israel is controlling your government inch by inch. I think whatever happens in Israel has a straight affect in the U.S
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


That's where you're wrong Ishtar! Saudi Arabia has donated nearly $80 Billion to the US political machine over the last ten years. Israel has donated some $7 Billion over that same time. Based off of those numbers, who controls govt policy?

It's time for you to wake up my friend. America didn't go to war with iraq because of Israel's insistence. We warred with Iraq to benefit Saudi Arabia and the banksters.
Why do you think the shit is gonna hit the fan with Iran? Not because of the Israelis! It's because the Shiites are a threat to Saudi Arabia and the banksters.

One phrase constantly spoken in America is, "Follow the money". We aren't going to war because of a nuclear bomb. We are going because certain unsavory people want to control their money or gain a greater share of the pie.
That's the truth, Mo!
Israel is like the neighbor's kid that we have to walk to school every day to keep him from getting beat up!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Great post! I agree with you, but the ones in control of your Government are the ones who established Israel!
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Uh, I think the ones who established Israel are long gone and dead, so they can't possibly control the govt of the US.
You said you agree with me but yet you contradict me? How can that be OP? You got some 'splainin' to do, Lucy!
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I think that Israel is controlling your government inch by inch. I think whatever happens in Israel has a straight affect in the U.S
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


That's where you're wrong Ishtar! Saudi Arabia has donated nearly $80 Billion to the US political machine over the last ten years. Israel has donated some $7 Billion over that same time. Based off of those numbers, who controls govt policy?

It's time for you to wake up my friend. America didn't go to war with iraq because of Israel's insistence. We warred with Iraq to benefit Saudi Arabia and the banksters.
Why do you think the shit is gonna hit the fan with Iran? Not because of the Israelis! It's because the Shiites are a threat to Saudi Arabia and the banksters.

One phrase constantly spoken in America is, "Follow the money". We aren't going to war because of a nuclear bomb. We are going because certain unsavory people want to control their money or gain a greater share of the pie.
That's the truth, Mo!
Israel is like the neighbor's kid that we have to walk to school every day to keep him from getting beat up!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Great post! I agree with you, but the ones in control of your Government are the ones who established Israel!
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Uh, I think the ones who established Israel are long gone and dead, so they can't possibly control the govt of the US.
You said you agree with me but yet you contradict me? How can that be OP? You got some 'splainin' to do, Lucy!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


The reason you explained is true but not fully. Of course theres money involved but the main tactic is to get in control of the whole mid-east. The Powers might act as an ally to the Saudis but at the end the Arabs will suffer.
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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No, they like all people are important. When they act against other people they are not acting in my interests.

Like wise, when they are attacked it also is not in my interest.

Both sides have problems with a loyalty to ideas, they are right and the others are wrong.

When leader are busy blaming them, who ever them happens to be, it is a sign they are robbing you of something, wealth, power, health...something. In other words, evil is in the heart of the one declaring other as "the evil ones".
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What is your opinion about ISRAEL being the United States closest ally?

True and Honest answers please..

 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Is there a peace treaty between Israel and the U.S?
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That's where you're wrong Ishtar! Saudi Arabia has donated nearly $80 Billion to the US political machine over the last ten years. Israel has donated some $7 Billion over that same time. Based off of those numbers, who controls govt policy?

It's time for you to wake up my friend. America didn't go to war with iraq because of Israel's insistence. We warred with Iraq to benefit Saudi Arabia and the banksters.
Why do you think the shit is gonna hit the fan with Iran? Not because of the Israelis! It's because the Shiites are a threat to Saudi Arabia and the banksters.

One phrase constantly spoken in America is, "Follow the money". We aren't going to war because of a nuclear bomb. We are going because certain unsavory people want to control their money or gain a greater share of the pie.
That's the truth, Mo!
Israel is like the neighbor's kid that we have to walk to school every day to keep him from getting beat up!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Great post! I agree with you, but the ones in control of your Government are the ones who established Israel!
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Uh, I think the ones who established Israel are long gone and dead, so they can't possibly control the govt of the US.
You said you agree with me but yet you contradict me? How can that be OP? You got some 'splainin' to do, Lucy!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


The reason you explained is true but not fully. Of course theres money involved but the main tactic is to get in control of the whole mid-east. The Powers might act as an ally to the Saudis but at the end the Arabs will suffer.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Of course arabs will suffer because the Kings and Sultans want them to suffer. An educated arab is a threat to the status quo and that's why they hate Israel.
Case in point:After 1947, the Zionists went to Israel to turn that piece of scap land into something fertile.
When Israelis were harvesting their fields turned fertile and productive, they could look across the border and see desolate land.
Their initial objective upon settling new Israel was to share that food producing technology with the arabs, but a funny thing happened to the new Israelis. Many times when they were on their tractors, they could glance skyward and see arab fighter planes.
Now wouldn't it be something if the arab governments would have spent money on tractors as opposed to fighter planes? Imagine the possibilities of Arabs and Israelis living in peace?
The road block to this sharing of technology and information was the Arab governments. They refused to have the Israelis assist the common arab because that could lead to the arab man being able to take care of himself and refuse any help from the Kingdom or Sultanate. The rulers couldn't have that now, could they?
So it's the Arab neighbors of Israel that continue to rattle the sabers against Israel in order to keep their own people down and dependant on the kingdom.
It's quite sad really! The Israelis wanted to embrace the Arab world but the Arab world wanted war instead.
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That's where you're wrong Ishtar! Saudi Arabia has donated nearly $80 Billion to the US political machine over the last ten years. Israel has donated some $7 Billion over that same time. Based off of those numbers, who controls govt policy?

It's time for you to wake up my friend. America didn't go to war with iraq because of Israel's insistence. We warred with Iraq to benefit Saudi Arabia and the banksters.
Why do you think the shit is gonna hit the fan with Iran? Not because of the Israelis! It's because the Shiites are a threat to Saudi Arabia and the banksters.

One phrase constantly spoken in America is, "Follow the money". We aren't going to war because of a nuclear bomb. We are going because certain unsavory people want to control their money or gain a greater share of the pie.
That's the truth, Mo!
Israel is like the neighbor's kid that we have to walk to school every day to keep him from getting beat up!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Great post! I agree with you, but the ones in control of your Government are the ones who established Israel!
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Uh, I think the ones who established Israel are long gone and dead, so they can't possibly control the govt of the US.
You said you agree with me but yet you contradict me? How can that be OP? You got some 'splainin' to do, Lucy!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


The reason you explained is true but not fully. Of course theres money involved but the main tactic is to get in control of the whole mid-east. The Powers might act as an ally to the Saudis but at the end the Arabs will suffer.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Peace will come if you look inward. You should be fighting for the brotherhood of man instead of fighting your brothers!
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Great post! I agree with you, but the ones in control of your Government are the ones who established Israel!
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Uh, I think the ones who established Israel are long gone and dead, so they can't possibly control the govt of the US.
You said you agree with me but yet you contradict me? How can that be OP? You got some 'splainin' to do, Lucy!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


The reason you explained is true but not fully. Of course theres money involved but the main tactic is to get in control of the whole mid-east. The Powers might act as an ally to the Saudis but at the end the Arabs will suffer.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Of course arabs will suffer because the Kings and Sultans want them to suffer. An educated arab is a threat to the status quo and that's why they hate Israel.
Case in point:After 1947, the Zionists went to Israel to turn that piece of scap land into something fertile.
When Israelis were harvesting their fields turned fertile and productive, they could look across the border and see desolate land.
Their initial objective upon settling new Israel was to share that food producing technology with the arabs, but a funny thing happened to the new Israelis. Many times when they were on their tractors, they could glance skyward and see arab fighter planes.
Now wouldn't it be something if the arab governments would have spent money on tractors as opposed to fighter planes? Imagine the possibilities of Arabs and Israelis living in peace?
The road block to this sharing of technology and information was the Arab governments. They refused to have the Israelis assist the common arab because that could lead to the arab man being able to take care of himself and refuse any help from the Kingdom or Sultanate. The rulers couldn't have that now, could they?
So it's the Arab neighbors of Israel that continue to rattle the sabers against Israel in order to keep their own people down and dependant on the kingdom.
It's quite sad really! The Israelis wanted to embrace the Arab world but the Arab world wanted war instead.
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Another great post. I have some research to do now.

Great job!
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid.
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Hey Evan03, look at your signature! Its Ted Nugent not Ted Nougat!
Good luck finding out that information. I don't think you'll find that anywhere on the net.
I've been studying 20th Century history since 5th grade, so I have come across many facts, theories, opinions and doctrine that may or may not be readily accessed in today's electronic age.
That last post was deduced from a book I read way back in high school. I can't remember the name of it now because its been a 1/4 of a century, but the message posted is 100% on point!
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Iran is just Russia's little bitch...being used as a stick in the western wheels.
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Hey Evan03, look at your signature! Its Ted Nugent not Ted Nougat!
Good luck finding out that information. I don't think you'll find that anywhere on the net.
I've been studying 20th Century history since 5th grade, so I have come across many facts, theories, opinions and doctrine that may or may not be readily accessed in today's electronic age.
That last post was deduced from a book I read way back in high school. I can't remember the name of it now because its been a 1/4 of a century, but the message posted is 100% on point!
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Evan03, here is a scratch on the surface of what I mentioned. You just have to read between the lines to understand what is fact.

[link to www.christiansforzion.com]

It's quite telling, really!
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Hey Evan03, look at your signature! Its Ted Nugent not Ted Nougat!
Good luck finding out that information. I don't think you'll find that anywhere on the net.
I've been studying 20th Century history since 5th grade, so I have come across many facts, theories, opinions and doctrine that may or may not be readily accessed in today's electronic age.
That last post was deduced from a book I read way back in high school. I can't remember the name of it now because its been a 1/4 of a century, but the message posted is 100% on point!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Evan03, here is a scratch on the surface of what I mentioned. You just have to read between the lines to understand what is fact.

[link to www.christiansforzion.com]

It's quite telling, really!
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


Thank you! as for my sig, I copied it from another poster whos user name on GLP was ted nougat..lol

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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
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You know Baldrick, my friend, it's a shame that the Arab world is denied these facts that I can randomly throw about. Hell! I'm not Arab or Jewish and I know these things to be truth.
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're going to move into a neighborhood and posture yourself as a threat or would you try to live among those new neighbors and try to be friendly and helpful?
The answer is always self evident. The Israelis never had any intention of conquering anything but the land they were given by the UN and the Balfour Doctrine.
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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
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You know Baldrick, my friend, it's a shame that the Arab world is denied these facts that I can randomly throw about. Hell! I'm not Arab or Jewish and I know these things to be truth.
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're going to move into a neighborhood and posture yourself as a threat or would you try to live among those new neighbors and try to be friendly and helpful?
The answer is always self evident. The Israelis never had any intention of conquering anything but the land they were given by the UN and the Balfour Doctrine.
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And therein lies the heart of the issue....if they were "given" the land in the true sense of the word, there should have been no issues.

I can see from what you post that Israel has a programme to develop and export intelectual property and in doing so has offered their developments to all, however we are not privvy to the terms of the offers.

Too many quantifiable unknowns to hold a firm stance.

Even the offer of gold can be rejected if the terms of the offer are not suitable.

The issues run deep, and unfortunately there is too much water under the bridge.

I wish there was peace in the ME. Unfortunately that is not the world we live in.
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What is your opinion about ISRAEL being the United States closest ally?

True and Honest answers please..

 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


I've said a billion times,

Israel
US
Germany
UK
Saudis

All share a cabal that has nwo intents. The rest of the groups are fighting them. They do not care about nation rights once their plans are complete they will attain the control most of you fear using your actions and in various cases lack of them to do so.

People here only want to listen to what shills from these governments present so I leave it to you to connect all these dots.

Yet people here should listen well.

They built this war of terror using Saudi grunts to be terrorist poster childs. Them and israel worked in the 60s-80s to make all those terrorist plane attacks.

The idea that these groups are fighting an enemy to me is absurd because they fund the enemies they create and supply them with the many power and intelligence to pull off attacks.

Good luck convincing the sheep in this country or of those I name of the truth but I never said I was trying to persuade anyone with these words.
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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
 Quoting: Baldrick


You know Baldrick, my friend, it's a shame that the Arab world is denied these facts that I can randomly throw about. Hell! I'm not Arab or Jewish and I know these things to be truth.
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're going to move into a neighborhood and posture yourself as a threat or would you try to live among those new neighbors and try to be friendly and helpful?
The answer is always self evident. The Israelis never had any intention of conquering anything but the land they were given by the UN and the Balfour Doctrine.
 Quoting: John Donson 7813130


And therein lies the heart of the issue....if they were "given" the land in the true sense of the word, there should have been no issues.

I can see from what you post that Israel has a programme to develop and export intelectual property and in doing so has offered their developments to all, however we are not privvy to the terms of the offers.

Too many quantifiable unknowns to hold a firm stance.

Even the offer of gold can be rejected if the terms of the offer are not suitable.

The issues run deep, and unfortunately there is too much water under the bridge.

I wish there was peace in the ME. Unfortunately that is not the world we live in.
 Quoting: Baldrick


That is a valid point and well accepted. But what is also known is that several thousand arabs graduate from Israeli universities every year and Israel welcomes this.
What is the difference between the graduated arab the the militant Palestinian?
Israel shares their info and technology with those who want to take it. Those who refuse to accept throw stones back at the Israelis!
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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
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You know Baldrick, my friend, it's a shame that the Arab world is denied these facts that I can randomly throw about. Hell! I'm not Arab or Jewish and I know these things to be truth.
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're going to move into a neighborhood and posture yourself as a threat or would you try to live among those new neighbors and try to be friendly and helpful?
The answer is always self evident. The Israelis never had any intention of conquering anything but the land they were given by the UN and the Balfour Doctrine.
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UN? =))) oh please!
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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I could do this all night for you OP! Why don't you bother to respond? Does the truth hurt?

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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
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You know Baldrick, my friend, it's a shame that the Arab world is denied these facts that I can randomly throw about. Hell! I'm not Arab or Jewish and I know these things to be truth.
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're going to move into a neighborhood and posture yourself as a threat or would you try to live among those new neighbors and try to be friendly and helpful?
The answer is always self evident. The Israelis never had any intention of conquering anything but the land they were given by the UN and the Balfour Doctrine.
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UN? =))) oh please!
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Your answer has to be a bit more intelligent than that if you want to learn anything. What is your concern or disagreement with what I posted?
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I'm looking into what you posted too.

That takes time.

Difficult to have a meaningful dialogue until one brings themselves up to speed.
 Quoting: Baldrick


You know Baldrick, my friend, it's a shame that the Arab world is denied these facts that I can randomly throw about. Hell! I'm not Arab or Jewish and I know these things to be truth.
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're going to move into a neighborhood and posture yourself as a threat or would you try to live among those new neighbors and try to be friendly and helpful?
The answer is always self evident. The Israelis never had any intention of conquering anything but the land they were given by the UN and the Balfour Doctrine.
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And therein lies the heart of the issue....if they were "given" the land in the true sense of the word, there should have been no issues.

I can see from what you post that Israel has a programme to develop and export intelectual property and in doing so has offered their developments to all, however we are not privvy to the terms of the offers.

Too many quantifiable unknowns to hold a firm stance.

Even the offer of gold can be rejected if the terms of the offer are not suitable.

The issues run deep, and unfortunately there is too much water under the bridge.

I wish there was peace in the ME. Unfortunately that is not the world we live in.
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That is a valid point and well accepted. But what is also known is that several thousand arabs graduate from Israeli universities every year and Israel welcomes this.
What is the difference between the graduated arab the the militant Palestinian?
Israel shares their info and technology with those who want to take it. Those who refuse to accept throw stones back at the Israelis!
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There are factions on all sides either promoting peace and development, or promoting war and unrest.

I cannot look at any country and assume that the people and institutions within operate with a singular goal in mind.

Here is hoping the goals of peace and sovereign development in harmony prevail.
Blackadder: Baldrick, how did you manage to find a turnip that cost £400 000?
Baldrick: Well, I had to haggle.

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