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Charlie Frost (OP) User ID: 1332758 New Zealand 03/24/2012 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The followup article on Nitinol Engines by Ridgeway Banks is interesting - goes into why he thinks the technology has not been supported. Take your dogma and shove it! Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it. |
Chrit User ID: 9751094 United States 03/24/2012 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice find, 10 bucks a pound or less now, 80% efficent, one HP per pound. [link to www.pacificsites.com] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
DDan2 User ID: 13119586 Germany 03/24/2012 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and 5* - good post OP edit: and suggest PIN !! <= scratch that...it got pinned whilst I was watching all this... Last Edited by DDan> on 03/24/2012 08:38 AM Regards, Served U.S. Army (Active): 1986 - 1994 (31k) United States Army Signal Corps (USASC) If opportunity isn't knocking, build a door! For those who believe, no explanation is necessary! For those who DO NOT, none will suffice! Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13091047 United Kingdom 03/24/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not "free energy" though, is it? You need a temperature difference to make it work. The bottom line is, how efficient is it in converting the temperature difference into work, into useable energy? If it's less than other methods, it's not going to be a success. |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 03/24/2012 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been used for years in the robotic world. [link to www.jameco.com] Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Khalen User ID: 12521290 Canada 03/24/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it would seem that someone(s)'= slammed the lid down tight on this bit of tech. I do remember hearing briefly about a new type of thermistor back then, but had no idea it was this powerful. And in those days info was not so easy to access. As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century. Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11475650 Australia 03/24/2012 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice find, 10 bucks a pound or less now, 80% efficent, one HP per pound. Quoting: Chrit [link to www.pacificsites.com] Which makes it clearly NOT "free" energy now doesn't it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13120275 United Kingdom 03/24/2012 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it would seem that someone(s)'= slammed the lid down tight on this bit of tech. I do remember hearing briefly about a new type of thermistor back then, but had no idea it was this powerful. And in those days info was not so easy to access. What lid has been slammed down? "Memory wire" has been in use for years and used in hundreds of products, what the fuck are you on about. Its no secrect, you can buy the stuff in any hobby or robotics store. |
Khalen User ID: 12521290 Canada 03/24/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it would seem that someone(s)'= slammed the lid down tight on this bit of tech. I do remember hearing briefly about a new type of thermistor back then, but had no idea it was this powerful. And in those days info was not so easy to access. What lid has been slammed down? "Memory wire" has been in use for years and used in hundreds of products, what the fuck are you on about. Its no secrect, you can buy the stuff in any hobby or robotics store. Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was referring to the materials potential use in large scale power generation applications. And the lack of mainstream coverage of that application. As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century. Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey. |
Stealth521 User ID: 7718749 United States 03/24/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes its surprisingly cheap...I notice it only appears to be in thin wire shapes. If it was available as sheets for example that might be even better. I work at a medical device manufacturer. We've used nitinol a number of times, truly amazing stuff. It actually is available in thin sheets (I've worked with 0.030 thick), but that's where it starts to get really pricey. 16pcs of 0.030 x 2" x 4" was around $1800.00 if memory serves me well. Oh the drawback to this stuff? It's really difficult to machine by standard processes. Though EDM or waterjet machine it very well (also pricey) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12778399 United States 03/24/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice find, 10 bucks a pound or less now, 80% efficent, one HP per pound. Quoting: Chrit [link to www.pacificsites.com] Which makes it clearly NOT "free" energy now doesn't it? Well then throw it out. We don't want something that isn't completely and totally free, do we? It must be COMPLETELY free or it has no use. |
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Chrit User ID: 9751094 United States 03/24/2012 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 80% is impressive; don’t forget how inefficient electricity is, it loses 60% of its power in in just transmission from point to point. Long as you’re heating the water by solar means it's a darn good idea. Watch the first vid from the 70’s; they state if they can make the Nitnol for less than 200 bucks a pound it is feasible. We’re looking at 10 bucks a pound or less 30+ years later. Free doesn’t mean the cost of building it if free, it means you don’t have to buy fuel like coal or gas. The sun comes out, the machine spins. The one thing I do have an issue with is how hard it is to heat up water with solar means, but it can be done. Water transfers heat 7 times faster than the air. Think I’ll make a toy one for fun; it won't cost more than 50 bucks. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13091047 United Kingdom 03/24/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it would seem that someone(s)'= slammed the lid down tight on this bit of tech. I do remember hearing briefly about a new type of thermistor back then, but had no idea it was this powerful. And in those days info was not so easy to access. What lid has been slammed down? "Memory wire" has been in use for years and used in hundreds of products, what the fuck are you on about. Its no secrect, you can buy the stuff in any hobby or robotics store. Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was referring to the materials potential use in large scale power generation applications. And the lack of mainstream coverage of that application. Because there isn't a practical way to use Nitinol in power generation. Despite all the claims, it's probably going to be less efficient than current designs using steam, turbines etc. Running a small wheel on a bench is one thing, scaling it up to power station levels is something else entirely... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11736718 United States 03/24/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because there isn't a practical way to use Nitinol in power generation. Despite all the claims, it's probably going to be less efficient than current designs using steam, turbines etc. Running a small wheel on a bench is one thing, scaling it up to power station levels is something else entirely... EXACTLY CORRECT.... just because some clown welded a fan to a car alternator does not mean this idea will work using a big fan to turn a large generator. Now lets get back to the TV... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13036998 Canada 03/24/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice find, 10 bucks a pound or less now, 80% efficent, one HP per pound. Quoting: Chrit [link to www.pacificsites.com] Which makes it clearly NOT "free" energy now doesn't it? Well then throw it out. We don't want something that isn't completely and totally free, do we? It must be COMPLETELY free or it has no use. Ugh, Yes Agreed |
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ISLANDIA User ID: 8828100 United States 03/24/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice find, 10 bucks a pound or less now, 80% efficent, one HP per pound. Quoting: Chrit [link to www.pacificsites.com] Which makes it clearly NOT "free" energy now doesn't it? Well then throw it out. We don't want something that isn't completely and totally free, do we? It must be COMPLETELY free or it has no use. Ugh, Yes Agreed Are you Fing Crazy... Go see Obama if you want something totally free. If you could pay your taxes one time and never pay it again what would you call that? This is what this device represents. Invest lease or do what ever you want I think this is much simpler than what everyone is thinking. |
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