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A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....

 
CtYankee
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A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Just read a nice story about the connection between the above ground nuclear testing and lung cancer.....could be our wonderful goverment put enough radioactive material in the air during the days of above ground testing that it is what really gives you lung canccer....just easier to blame smoking insted of finding out the US nuclear testing killed all those people

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The overall magnitude of lung cancer risk to humans from atmospheric radioactive fallout cannot be overstated.

Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.

Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.


Link: [link to www.masternewmedia.org]
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
been smoking for over 35 years , no cancer
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Nice, OP. I have posed exactly the same question about atmospheric nuclear testing, having read about the sample group used to derive the supposed connection. It's rather comforting that others have independently arrived at the same question.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
I don't beieve much truth is ever spoken in the "real" world.

That being said I still like to read things that make me go Hmmmmmmmm....crazy doesn't cut it but sometimes you read things that "IF" true would sure explain a lot!
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
I'm a construction worker, nationally there have been training sessions of how to handle ASBESTOS, and the dangers involved.
Rarely, in uk does anyone die from asbestos related illness, all lung cancer is due to smoking,even in non smokers,i.e passive smoking.

Difference being, smoking deaths\illness are self inflicted..no compensation.
Asbestos related death and illness..large compensation payouts.

Spot the diference?
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Just read a nice story about the connection between the above ground nuclear testing and lung cancer.....could be our wonderful goverment put enough radioactive material in the air during the days of above ground testing that it is what really gives you lung canccer....just easier to blame smoking insted of finding out the US nuclear testing killed all those people

Excerp:

The overall magnitude of lung cancer risk to humans from atmospheric radioactive fallout cannot be overstated.

Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.

Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.


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 Quoting: CtYankee


I hear you OP.

I don't like that they blame all cancer on smoking if you are a smoker. If you are a smoker and have colon cancer they blame it on your damn smoking.
If 50 people had cancer and half of them smoke then it is determined that the half that smoked got cancer as a result of smoking. What about the other half?
And why does all get blamed on smoking anyways? Why don't the think about other things people were doing? People who have cancer drank water, drank milk, breathed air, ate veggies, and the list could go on. Everyone who gets cancer have all done the same things but not all of them have smoked. I think it is time to look outside the tobacco box and see if a solid cause can be found.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Smoking does not cause cancer. Parasites that reproduce in the body in the presence of propyl alcohol is what causes cancer. Smoking does weaken the lungs and the entire body and immune system though.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Right on man. You got me thinking and that is why I come here
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
WOW...even my son agrees....screw a pin....."son points"5a
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Just read a nice story about the connection between the above ground nuclear testing and lung cancer.....could be our wonderful goverment put enough radioactive material in the air during the days of above ground testing that it is what really gives you lung canccer....just easier to blame smoking insted of finding out the US nuclear testing killed all those people

Excerp:

The overall magnitude of lung cancer risk to humans from atmospheric radioactive fallout cannot be overstated.

Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.

Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.


Link: [link to www.masternewmedia.org]
 Quoting: CtYankee


As much as I would love to beleive that smoking does'nt cause cancer...I cant. The reason...I have a dead father who died of lung cancer at 56 years old. He smoked 2 - 3 packs of rollies a day...no filter. It was the most awful thing watching him die that way too verysadgaah. Ironically...I smoke myself...my fate will be my fathers im sure.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Right on man. You got me thinking and that is why I come here
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Are you talking to yourself?
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Just read a nice story about the connection between the above ground nuclear testing and lung cancer.....could be our wonderful goverment put enough radioactive material in the air during the days of above ground testing that it is what really gives you lung canccer....just easier to blame smoking insted of finding out the US nuclear testing killed all those people

Excerp:

The overall magnitude of lung cancer risk to humans from atmospheric radioactive fallout cannot be overstated.

Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.

Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.


Link: [link to www.masternewmedia.org]
 Quoting: CtYankee


As much as I would love to beleive that smoking does'nt cause cancer...I cant. The reason...I have a dead father who died of lung cancer at 56 years old. He smoked 2 - 3 packs of rollies a day...no filter. It was the most awful thing watching him die that way too verysadgaah. Ironically...I smoke myself...my fate will be my fathers im sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4914062


I am really sorry to hear that. It is horrible to watch anyone be sick with that.
I am watching my Grandpa so sick from lung cancer too. Only thing is he never smoked. His wife didn't smoke. His parents didn't smoke so he lived in a smoke free environment his entire life.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Just read a nice story about the connection between the above ground nuclear testing and lung cancer.....could be our wonderful goverment put enough radioactive material in the air during the days of above ground testing that it is what really gives you lung canccer....just easier to blame smoking insted of finding out the US nuclear testing killed all those people

Excerp:

The overall magnitude of lung cancer risk to humans from atmospheric radioactive fallout cannot be overstated.

Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.

Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.


Link: [link to www.masternewmedia.org]
 Quoting: CtYankee


A good chance guns don't kill people.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Right on man. You got me thinking and that is why I come here
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Are you talking to yourself?
 Quoting: BRIEF


LOL...no..least ways here....my know everything son used my phone to join in....ya see we don't agree an much so i am amaized he would even open his closed mind to this.

Maybe he remembers his great grand ma who smoked a corn cob pipe till she died at 103 from liver damage...she drank like a fish too
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
That God they don't....take someone holding the danm thing....then pulling the trigger.....a gun is for someone to fucking lazy or weak to beat them to death!

Quote from A Brit without common sense
A good chance guns don't kill people.


Last Edited by CtYankee on 03/24/2012 07:43 AM
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Right on man. You got me thinking and that is why I come here
 Quoting: Jack 11653208


Are you talking to yourself?
 Quoting: BRIEF


LOL...no..least ways here....my know everything son used my phone to join in....ya see we don't agree an much so i am amaized he would even open his closed mind to this.

Maybe he remembers his great grand ma who smoked a corn cob pipe till she died at 103 from liver damage...she drank like a fish too
 Quoting: CtYankee


Cool, your mind has a lot to do with how long you live and if you get sick too...but the first rule of longevity is not to step on any landmines...
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Right on man. You got me thinking and that is why I come here
 Quoting: Jack 11653208


Are you talking to yourself?
 Quoting: BRIEF


LOL...no..least ways here....my know everything son used my phone to join in....ya see we don't agree an much so i am amaized he would even open his closed mind to this.

Maybe he remembers his great grand ma who smoked a corn cob pipe till she died at 103 from liver damage...she drank like a fish too
 Quoting: CtYankee


Cool, your mind has a lot to do with how long you live and if you get sick too...but the first rule of longevity is not to step on any landmines...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Allways sound advice
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
rofl

All the dumb ass GLP smokers are going to be attracted to this thread like flies to shit.
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rofl

All the dumb ass GLP smokers are going to be attracted to this thread like flies to shit.
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Smoking is not healthy...neither is HFCS, but many ingest it for years with no problems while others get sick...
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We here in Ct say if you need to smoke....smoke weedbonghit
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rofl

All the dumb ass GLP smokers are going to be attracted to this thread like flies to shit.
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Smoking is not healthy...neither is HFCS, but many ingest it for years with no problems while others get sick...
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Thank You CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!!!

What would we do with out you?

Stick with trolling and promoting the US Police State, you are much better at that.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Just read a nice story about the connection between the above ground nuclear testing and lung cancer.....could be our wonderful goverment put enough radioactive material in the air during the days of above ground testing that it is what really gives you lung canccer....just easier to blame smoking insted of finding out the US nuclear testing killed all those people

Excerp:

The overall magnitude of lung cancer risk to humans from atmospheric radioactive fallout cannot be overstated.

Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.

Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.


Link: [link to www.masternewmedia.org]
 Quoting: CtYankee


A good chance guns don't kill people.
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no , guns dont kill people , rappers do
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rofl

All the dumb ass GLP smokers are going to be attracted to this thread like flies to shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


Smoking is not healthy...neither is HFCS, but many ingest it for years with no problems while others get sick...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Thank You CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!!!

What would we do with out you?

Stick with trolling and promoting the US Police State, you are much better at that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


I say that in support of what I already said earlier in the thread retard.
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rofl

All the dumb ass GLP smokers are going to be attracted to this thread like flies to shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


Smoking is not healthy...neither is HFCS, but many ingest it for years with no problems while others get sick...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Thank You CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!!!

What would we do with out you?

Stick with trolling and promoting the US Police State, you are much better at that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


becareful , he might chimp out
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
It does.

So do many things.

Choose your poison.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
I'm beginning to think that if I should be run down in the street by a truck and died, it would be claimed that it's because of smoking.

From my personal experience, alchohol is far worse than smoking. And many smokers drink heavily. Is that considered in the statistics? Of course not. It has been decreed from on high that smoking is the culprit, so any deviation from that edict is blasphemy.

Meanwhile, my father, an alchoholic, smoked and died at age 62.

His father, who didn't drink, smoked and died at 93.
My great-aunt, who didn't drink, smoked and died at 87.
My aunt, who didn't drink or smoke, died at 87.
Her sister, who didn't drink or smoke, died at 87.
Her father, who didn't drink, smoked and died at 87.

Face it. Life is dangerous and you ain't gonna' get outta here alive.
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
It does.

So do many things.

Choose your poison.
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DID you even take the time to open your eyes and "read" the piece....I doubt it!
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
Combine smoking with getting teeth removed or other serious dental work such as a root canal and the odds of cancer go up big time...
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
The big tobacco companies agreed to be the fall guys, and are still getting government subsidies as a cover for the real culprits. But if the real culprits other that nuclear particles was revealed society as we know it would grind to a halt, for the world runs on it. sk
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The big tobacco companies agreed to be the fall guys, and are still getting government subsidies as a cover for the real culprits. But if the real culprits other that nuclear particles was revealed society as we know it would grind to a halt, for the world runs on it. sk
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Well can anyone name one product made from oil that has been proven to be 100% safe....not that I am aware of
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Re: A good chance smoking does NOT cause cancer.....
smoking 25 years and got cancer

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