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Am I explaining the freefall oxy?
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You can go and ask John MCcain if he received a certificate of this type since he was born in the Canal Zone. Anyway it is illegal to show that Cert form (federal law you know) if that form is legit.

1) it does have a cert number and some information that can be easily discernable, I see 33, Male, White 5ft 10in and a signature.

Now if this is Barack's he was one tall child at 5 Ft 10 in. as a grown man he would be what 10 Feet 20 inches tall LMAO

Pages 2 and 3 dont mean shit 3 Citizens arrived while seven departed dont even know if that is a legit INS form.

Page 4 shows indonesia not Kenya and we know Mom lived in indonesia.
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What I don't understand, if this POTUS is illegal why didn't any Republican, running in 2008 dig up this dirt?
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Same Masters. Same agenda. They are only minions.hf
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depends on the definition of 'natural born citizen'. ann durham was a citizen, no matter where her child was born, is he a natural born citizen? also, having dual citizenship, US and British (one parent is kenyan/british and the other american), is that a natural born citizen?
also, if one gives up their US citizenship to become indonesian, then gets their US citizenship back, is he still a natural born citizen????????
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It no longer matters as what DOES matter now is if it can be proven that he has LIED all along about something as basic as his place of birth. If this document is real, I do hope they are able to protect it from disappearing pronto like so much around Obama seems to. Hopefully this info is with Arpaio.
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INS Record Found Showing Certificate of Citizenship Issued in 1961 To Child Born in Kenya

[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]
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Go Sheriff Joe!! 5a


"NEW YORK, NY – A recently discovered rare immigration record found by researchers working on behalf of an ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama to hold the office of the U.S. presidency reveals that an American consular officer issued a single Certificate of Citizenship to only one passenger arriving in the U.S. from the Kenyan region of Africa between July and December of 1961."
[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]


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bump for REALITY
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depends on the definition of 'natural born citizen'. ann durham was a citizen, no matter where her child was born, is he a natural born citizen? also, having dual citizenship, US and British (one parent is kenyan/british and the other american), is that a natural born citizen?
also, if one gives up their US citizenship to become indonesian, then gets their US citizenship back, is he still a natural born citizen????????
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It no longer matters as what DOES matter now is if it can be proven that he has LIED all along about something as basic as his place of birth. If this document is real, I do hope they are able to protect it from disappearing pronto like so much around Obama seems to. Hopefully this info is with Arpaio.
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Lets hope they still have the original "documents" saved in the harddrive so all Arpaio has to do is reproduce it
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We need to see the actual document. Samples aren't going to do anything. The cold case posse says they have a lot more information. So, release it!

But, I understand what they're trying to do. They're releasing small but important pieces of information hoping Obama will be forced to respond in some way and then catch him in a bigger and more provable lie based on other evidence they've gathered.

But, I don't think Obama is going to play ball like that. He's smart enough to realize he can go to jail for what he's done. His best move is to deny deny deny and mock mock mock. Problem is, if any of this stuff is true, chances are the cold case posse has enough information on their own to do the job.

I just wish they'd quit playing around and release it all now. Lets get it over with.
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This guy is so full of crap...how much more evidence do we need before we can hold him accountable?
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No amount of evidence wil do the trick, because the people who have the auhority to impeach Obama don't care about the truth or facts or silly little things like laws and they sure as hell don't have any principles. Washington DC went rogue a long time ago. It's just that they aren't even bothering to pretend they work for us or are bound by any law at all now.

Obama will only be held accountable if it serves the political gains of the other corrupt people in the District of Criminals. Even then, they don't have the moral spine to stand up for what is right even if it would benefit them.

We are FUBAR. God help us all.

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The house of cards will fall in july or august. Insiders say the plan is to expose Obama and take real legal action late in the presidential race. At the very least, Obama will be disqualified.

Overwhelming evidence will be presented to embarrass the media and the Democrat party.

If the left was smart (they are not) they should be getting their plan B ready.

Sit back and enjoy the show.
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depends on the definition of 'natural born citizen'. ann durham was a citizen, no matter where her child was born, is he a natural born citizen? also, having dual citizenship, US and British (one parent is kenyan/british and the other american), is that a natural born citizen?
also, if one gives up their US citizenship to become indonesian, then gets their US citizenship back, is he still a natural born citizen????????
 Quoting: cradle to grave


Forget about the Natural Born Citizen issue for a moment. You're confusing the issue and yourself. Consider this.....

A woman from the US marries a Japanese citizen. She gets pregnant, goes to Japan and has the baby on Japanese soil. Is their kid a US Citizen? Hell NO. Its a Japanese citizen. It doesn't matter if Japan allows dual citizenship. The US doesn't. And we sure as hell don't offer dual citizenship with Kenya!

As I've said before and I'll say it again. If Obama was born in Kenya and he never applied and was granted US Citizenship, than he's not only ineligible for President but he's in fact an illegal alien.

Which of course is the reason for the fake BC and Selective Service Draft Card. Citizens don't have to make stuff up. But illegals do, will, and HAVE TO in order to survive here and make a decent living. That's why illegals use fake names, use erroneous Social Security Numbers etc etc etc.

That same pattern is evident with Obama (Barry Soetoro) or what ever name he went by in the past.
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depends on the definition of 'natural born citizen'. ann durham was a citizen, no matter where her child was born, is he a natural born citizen? also, having dual citizenship, US and British (one parent is kenyan/british and the other american), is that a natural born citizen?
also, if one gives up their US citizenship to become indonesian, then gets their US citizenship back, is he still a natural born citizen????????
 Quoting: cradle to grave


What matters is what the law stated in 1961 and that's all.

I have no idea what it says about a Mother as US citizen and in or out of wedlock child born abroad.

Has the law from '61 been posted on GLP before?
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This guy is so full of crap...how much more evidence do we need before we can hold him accountable?
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No amount of evidence wil do the trick, because the people who have the auhority to impeach Obama don't care about the truth or facts or silly little things like laws and they sure as hell don't have any principles. Washington DC went rogue a long time ago. It's just that they aren't even bothering to pretend they work for us or are bound by any law at all now.

Obama will only be held accountable if it serves the political gains of the other corrupt people in the District of Criminals. Even then, they don't have the moral spine to stand up for what is right even if it would benefit them.

We are FUBAR. God help us all.
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Horse shit, the tea party has been on Obama's jock strap since he moved into the white house. They seem to like the dirtiest of jock straps too. The very thought of the blood shedding orgy from all of Obamas supporters is enough to makes these people giddy with pure unadulterated bliss. and this is an executionable crime by the way if proved.

Now all you have to is produce evidence that will stand up in a real court of law. Not conjecture, innuendos, machinations, a 3 year infomercial hoping that the American People are stupid enough to believe the lie.
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What I don't understand, if this POTUS is illegal why didn't any Republican, running in 2008 dig up this dirt?
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all the same team

do you really think you have a choice? the only choices you have are like what color iPod to get
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Wait I minute. I never said these parties were different. I know they all sleep with one another and their blood-lines go way back but I mean.............come on, if it were this obvious (that this fuckin' idiot isn't legal) then somebody somewhere, besides toupee Trump, would've called him out on this. No?

Listen, I think he's as illegal as Bush and Cheney are for perpetrating 9-11 but.....I just can't figure out why no one has called him out on this 5 years ago, ya know?

This whole system has GOT TO go! I hate this government for ruining my country and freedoms. I've done nothing wrong except, being born here (unlike Obama)
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Do you honestly think the people behind the scenes are going to allow a scandal like this to evolve into one giant illegitimacy?

No way hose.
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comments:

I looked up Statutory Citizenship and it means Naturalized. But if this is Stanley Ann and her son Barry, she couldn't have given her US citizenship to her foreign born son. The law today says she must be a U.S. resident for at least 2 years after the age of 14, but in 1961, the law said 2 years after the age of 17, and the law was not retroactive. Stanley Ann was 3 months shy of her 19th birthday, so she could not have conferred her U.S. citizenship upon her baby. The child therefore would have had to have been a resident for a minimum of 5 years. It's also possible that Barry is months older than he claims.

A poster on another thread said that those who lived in Hawaii back then had to be residents for one year before applying for U.S. citizenship. The Dunhams moved to Hawaii August 4, 1960. They claim Barry was born August 4, 1961, obviously because that's the day he became eligible for U.S. citizenship, making him older than a newborn. So I find this confusing. Did she apply again in Hawaii when she found out he could get an actual Hawaiian BC there and not just Naturalized status?

March 24, 2012 12:44 AM

Plus, Barry signed onto SR511 declaring John McCain to be a Natural Born Citizen. SR511 also defines NBC status as one born in the U.S. or U.S. territory to TWO (2) U.S. citizen parents. Got that? Barry signed onto that, so he knew he was ineligible.

He's toast.

March 24, 2012 1:56 AM

"US Citizen" encompasses two subcategories:

Naturalized (by statute) or Natural Born Citizen
Anyone who is statutory (US Code) is not a natural born citizen. Anything short of 2 US Citizen parents born on US soil is naturalized, at best, thus ineligible.

OBAMA FAILS ARTICLE II SECTION 1 CLAUSE 5

March 24, 2012 6:27 AM
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What I don't understand, if this POTUS is illegal why didn't any Republican, running in 2008 dig up this dirt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13129372


all the same team

do you really think you have a choice? the only choices you have are like what color iPod to get
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Wait I minute. I never said these parties were different. I know they all sleep with one another and their blood-lines go way back but I mean.............come on, if it were this obvious (that this fuckin' idiot isn't legal) then somebody somewhere, besides toupee Trump, would've called him out on this. No?

Listen, I think he's as illegal as Bush and Cheney are for perpetrating 9-11 but.....I just can't figure out why no one has called him out on this 5 years ago, ya know?

This whole system has GOT TO go! I hate this government for ruining my country and freedoms. I've done nothing wrong except, being born here (unlike Obama)
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Do you honestly think the people behind the scenes are going to allow a scandal like this to evolve into one giant illegitimacy?

No way hose.
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Agreed. But there is a saturation point when is becomes totally undeniable. If that happens, millions of Republicans will flood blogs, congressional offices and talk shows with demands for action. Right now those silly gate keepers control the issue by mockery. Tomorrow, they may not be able too. This is where this thing is headed.
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Forget about the Natural Born Citizen issue for a moment. You're confusing the issue and yourself. Consider this.....

A woman from the US marries a Japanese citizen. She gets pregnant, goes to Japan and has the baby on Japanese soil. Is their kid a US Citizen? Hell NO. Its a Japanese citizen. It doesn't matter if Japan allows dual citizenship. The US doesn't. And we sure as hell don't offer dual citizenship with Kenya!

As I've said before and I'll say it again. If Obama was born in Kenya and he never applied and was granted US Citizenship, than he's not only ineligible for President but he's in fact an illegal alien.

Which of course is the reason for the fake BC and Selective Service Draft Card. Citizens don't have to make stuff up. But illegals do, will, and HAVE TO in order to survive here and make a decent living. That's why illegals use fake names, use erroneous Social Security Numbers etc etc etc.

That same pattern is evident with Obama (Barry Soetoro) or what ever name he went by in the past.


Ok you say Obama was born in Kenya, get his birth certificate from Kenya and prove it.
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Forget about the Natural Born Citizen issue for a moment. You're confusing the issue and yourself. Consider this.....

A woman from the US marries a Japanese citizen. She gets pregnant, goes to Japan and has the baby on Japanese soil. Is their kid a US Citizen? Hell NO. Its a Japanese citizen. It doesn't matter if Japan allows dual citizenship. The US doesn't. And we sure as hell don't offer dual citizenship with Kenya!

As I've said before and I'll say it again. If Obama was born in Kenya and he never applied and was granted US Citizenship, than he's not only ineligible for President but he's in fact an illegal alien.

Which of course is the reason for the fake BC and Selective Service Draft Card. Citizens don't have to make stuff up. But illegals do, will, and HAVE TO in order to survive here and make a decent living. That's why illegals use fake names, use erroneous Social Security Numbers etc etc etc.

That same pattern is evident with Obama (Barry Soetoro) or what ever name he went by in the past.


Ok you say Obama was born in Kenya, get his birth certificate from Kenya and prove it.


Or you and or sherrif Joe already tried and couldnt locate it there either? LOL
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Forget about the Natural Born Citizen issue for a moment. You're confusing the issue and yourself. Consider this.....

A woman from the US marries a Japanese citizen. She gets pregnant, goes to Japan and has the baby on Japanese soil. Is their kid a US Citizen? Hell NO. Its a Japanese citizen. It doesn't matter if Japan allows dual citizenship. The US doesn't. And we sure as hell don't offer dual citizenship with Kenya!

As I've said before and I'll say it again. If Obama was born in Kenya and he never applied and was granted US Citizenship, than he's not only ineligible for President but he's in fact an illegal alien.

Which of course is the reason for the fake BC and Selective Service Draft Card. Citizens don't have to make stuff up. But illegals do, will, and HAVE TO in order to survive here and make a decent living. That's why illegals use fake names, use erroneous Social Security Numbers etc etc etc.

That same pattern is evident with Obama (Barry Soetoro) or what ever name he went by in the past.


Ok you say Obama was born in Kenya, get his birth certificate from Kenya and prove it.


For now, lets just agree that if Barry was born in Kenya or anywhere other than the United States he's ineligible to be president.

As evidence continues to mount, not only will we see that he wasn't born here but he committed crimes and forgery to obtain credentials (like a SS", BC, Selective Service Draft Card etc) to make it appear he is a US Citizen. Have all the arguments you want about his Natural Born Status but the other crimes and forgeries are going to catch up to him. And at that point it will no longer matter.

If I was Barry, I'd be trying to cut a deal right now. Drop the issue and I won't run again. But he's far too arrogant for that.

If there is ANY truth to ANY of this stuff, he's not only going to be in legal trouble himself but will bring down the entire Democrat party in the process. Don't forget, lots of Southern Democrats would never forgive their party for allowing an illegal alien to be chosen as their representative.

I don't give a shit what you do cause I'm an Independent voter. I dislike both parties. But if you care about yours, you'd better start asking hard questions and stop denying common sense. Cause, when the damn breaks your party won't recover for a loooooonnnng time.
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Forget about the Natural Born Citizen issue for a moment. You're confusing the issue and yourself. Consider this.....

A woman from the US marries a Japanese citizen. She gets pregnant, goes to Japan and has the baby on Japanese soil. Is their kid a US Citizen? Hell NO. Its a Japanese citizen. It doesn't matter if Japan allows dual citizenship. The US doesn't. And we sure as hell don't offer dual citizenship with Kenya!

As I've said before and I'll say it again. If Obama was born in Kenya and he never applied and was granted US Citizenship, than he's not only ineligible for President but he's in fact an illegal alien.

Which of course is the reason for the fake BC and Selective Service Draft Card. Citizens don't have to make stuff up. But illegals do, will, and HAVE TO in order to survive here and make a decent living. That's why illegals use fake names, use erroneous Social Security Numbers etc etc etc.

That same pattern is evident with Obama (Barry Soetoro) or what ever name he went by in the past.
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Ok you say Obama was born in Kenya, get his birth certificate from Kenya and prove it.


Or you and or sherrif Joe already tried and couldnt locate it there either? LOL


You're going to regret being stupid when your party is destroyed over this issue. As an Independent voter I could care less. That's your problem. Just remember its your party and you've chosen to hitch your wagon to this guy and all his baggage. Plus you continue to defend him when you should be asking questions. Don't bitch and whine about he Republican machine causing your parties demise. Its your fault. He's your guy and you stick with him no matter what.
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What I don't understand, if this POTUS is illegal why didn't any Republican, running in 2008 dig up this dirt?
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To the majority, anyone who tries to bring it up is a "birther" which also translates in their mind to:

wacko
conspiracy freak
racist
and probably a gun-toting religious nut who's just being mean to poor old Obama
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This guy is so full of crap...how much more evidence do we need before we can hold him accountable?
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No amount of evidence wil do the trick, because the people who have the auhority to impeach Obama don't care about the truth or facts or silly little things like laws and they sure as hell don't have any principles. Washington DC went rogue a long time ago. It's just that they aren't even bothering to pretend they work for us or are bound by any law at all now.

Obama will only be held accountable if it serves the political gains of the other corrupt people in the District of Criminals. Even then, they don't have the moral spine to stand up for what is right even if it would benefit them.

We are FUBAR. God help us all.
 Quoting: Resister


Horse shit, the tea party has been on Obama's jock strap since he moved into the white house. They seem to like the dirtiest of jock straps too. The very thought of the blood shedding orgy from all of Obamas supporters is enough to makes these people giddy with pure unadulterated bliss. and this is an executionable crime by the way if proved.

Now all you have to is produce evidence that will stand up in a real court of law. Not conjecture, innuendos, machinations, a 3 year infomercial hoping that the American People are stupid enough to believe the lie.
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Wake the frack up.

In 2008 Hillary Clinton was the first one to question his eligibility and she lost. In 2008 Obama's racist hateful cult of a "church" was front page news for a while. Long enough for everyone who wanted to to learn that he is a Black Liberation Theology Marxist... in 2008. Hell, he even wronte a book talking about his cocain use and about his being a Marxist. No one cared! I heard a radio interview with him back in 2008 where he talked about how our constitution was in his words "fundamentally flawed". The man who swore an oath to protect and defend the same constitution he called fundamentally flawed was still popularly elected by a majority of willfully blind useful idiots even though that information was already out there. They just refused to listen.

The facts haven't changed. The evidence hasn't really changed either. He is still a Marxist. He still isn't a natural born citizen, and he still doesn't give a rats ass about our constitution.

Obama only has a few months left to serve and then, God willing, we will get another election. Who are we going to have as a choice against him? They guy (Romney) who lost to the most unpopular and worst Republican candidates in living memory, John McCain.

No, we are well and truely screwed. We couldn't save ourselves from a house fire if we lived under a waterfall.

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Please GWB was perhaps the most incompetent President we have had so far.. Did I vote for him no, but did I support him YES BECAUSE HE WAS THE FRIKKIN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

do I support Barack Obama YES why? See above. Now, again please show evidence, actual physical, actual genetic (if any) evidence that supports your assertions.

Reverend Wright had and continue to have and enjoy freedoms under the first amendment as we all do. Have I heard of this man before? No not until he was made famous by whom?

Anyway, you have one goal in life make Obama a one term president thats also a fact. Is the birth certificate issue one of those weapons that you are using to meet this end? If not show actual solid iron clad physical evidence to support your assertions. if not what you are doing is commiting an act of libel as well as an act of slander and bullying. In addition, the CDC defines bullying as repeated, unreasonable actions of individuals (or a group) directed towards an employee (or a group of employees), which are intended to intimidate, degrade, humiliate, or undermine; or which create a risk to the health or safety of the employee(s)
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depends on the definition of 'natural born citizen'. ann durham was a citizen, no matter where her child was born, is he a natural born citizen? also, having dual citizenship, US and British (one parent is kenyan/british and the other american), is that a natural born citizen?
also, if one gives up their US citizenship to become indonesian, then gets their US citizenship back, is he still a natural born citizen????????
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It no longer matters as what DOES matter now is if it can be proven that he has LIED all along about something as basic as his place of birth. If this document is real, I do hope they are able to protect it from disappearing pronto like so much around Obama seems to. Hopefully this info is with Arpaio.
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Lets hope they still have the original "documents" saved in the harddrive so all Arpaio has to do is reproduce it
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It's actually from a 1962 fact book produced by INS in which they collect dozens of tables of immigration related information - probably the kind of thing few people could now do in this country. Not only is this record interesting as it pertains to Obama, but it shows how precise and well organized the country once was, and how far we have declined in one lifetime. By the way, this book is available for perusing on-line. I just went through all the tables to determine if it was real - it IS a real document. The question is: who was (is) that ONE child born in Kenya in 1961 who was given US citizenship? If it's not Obama, who was it? One of the things the researchers have going for them is that there was relatively minor immigration back and forth with Kenya. If it is another person - and there is only ONE other option - hopefully we can determine that.

Outstanding research. As someone who has done tons of genealogy I'm very familiar with the massive amount of research - through very cumbersome documents - to find one tiny detail that cements everything together. This is impressive work.

Here is a link to the book online:

[link to archive.org]

If this whole book from 1962 disappears, well then....that will be another kind of answer, won't it?
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Please GWB was perhaps the most incompetent President we have had so far.. Did I vote for him no, but did I support him YES BECAUSE HE WAS THE FRIKKIN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

do I support Barack Obama YES why? See above. Now, again please show evidence, actual physical, actual genetic (if any) evidence that supports your assertions.

Reverend Wright had and continue to have and enjoy freedoms under the first amendment as we all do. Have I heard of this man before? No not until he was made famous by whom?

Anyway, you have one goal in life make Obama a one term president thats also a fact. Is the birth certificate issue one of those weapons that you are using to meet this end? If not show actual solid iron clad physical evidence to support your assertions. if not what you are doing is commiting an act of libel as well as an act of slander and bullying. In addition, the CDC defines bullying as repeated, unreasonable actions of individuals (or a group) directed towards an employee (or a group of employees), which are intended to intimidate, degrade, humiliate, or undermine; or which create a risk to the health or safety of the employee(s)
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We're not giving up. Just want you to know.
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Please GWB was perhaps the most incompetent President we have had so far.. Did I vote for him no, but did I support him YES BECAUSE HE WAS THE FRIKKIN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

do I support Barack Obama YES why? See above. Now, again please show evidence, actual physical, actual genetic (if any) evidence that supports your assertions.

Reverend Wright had and continue to have and enjoy freedoms under the first amendment as we all do. Have I heard of this man before? No not until he was made famous by whom?

Anyway, you have one goal in life make Obama a one term president thats also a fact. Is the birth certificate issue one of those weapons that you are using to meet this end? If not show actual solid iron clad physical evidence to support your assertions. if not what you are doing is commiting an act of libel as well as an act of slander and bullying. In addition, the CDC defines bullying as repeated, unreasonable actions of individuals (or a group) directed towards an employee (or a group of employees), which are intended to intimidate, degrade, humiliate, or undermine; or which create a risk to the health or safety of the employee(s)
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What the hell is this shit?
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Please GWB was perhaps the most incompetent President we have had so far.. Did I vote for him no, but did I support him YES BECAUSE HE WAS THE FRIKKIN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

do I support Barack Obama YES why? See above. Now, again please show evidence, actual physical, actual genetic (if any) evidence that supports your assertions.

Reverend Wright had and continue to have and enjoy freedoms under the first amendment as we all do. Have I heard of this man before? No not until he was made famous by whom?

Anyway, you have one goal in life make Obama a one term president thats also a fact. Is the birth certificate issue one of those weapons that you are using to meet this end? If not show actual solid iron clad physical evidence to support your assertions. if not what you are doing is commiting an act of libel as well as an act of slander and bullying. In addition, the CDC defines bullying as repeated, unreasonable actions of individuals (or a group) directed towards an employee (or a group of employees), which are intended to intimidate, degrade, humiliate, or undermine; or which create a risk to the health or safety of the employee(s)
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What the hell is this shit?
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DOOOOOMMM??





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