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Think They Won't Call CPS For Not Vaccinating Your Kids?

 
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I just dropped out of school. I was taking Early Childhood Education. I thought it would be cool to teach little kids, but as I did my work and read ahead in the books I found something that they are teaching day care workers and kindergarten teachers.

Lack of immunizations is neglect.

Teachers are designated reporters of neglect and abuse.

Something to think about.
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In a bit I'll try to post the scan from the book.

They are teaching new day care workers and kindergarten teachers this as fact.

And it's interesting how they handle facts in college ...
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one of many reasons we home school at my house
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from another thread:
Thread: Stay away from Europe if you have kids!

i just left my job of two years as a CPS social worker for NC, worked in GA for DFCS before that with worker from England. Our laws are changing monthly for the worse. we take guns for any report now, despite substantiated or not.

I was lead SWIII A/I&T. that meant i handled sex/ physical abuse with some neglect. there are federal monies for foster care placement, in which some goes to the acting dept. so there are incentives. LE, or police use us for getting into homes without search warrants just on our suspicion. Corruption abounds, especially with medicaid fraud, coupled with city, county managers with the DSS directors.

99% of workers get off on destroying families in court, and are pill addicts, miserable due to so much paperwork, and get into a frenzy with LE when it comes to invading houses. I was good and smart but could not believe the ugliness. i worked for two separate counties in NC, and a one in GA. Same everywhere, worse in large cities. in fact Atlanta was recently under federal receivership due to corruption. Savannah GA has thousands in foster care, and that is not kinship placement.

dear county letter come monthly that the feds send directors on all the new laws that keep getting added and changed, that are always more predatory. workers also have to train in homeland security stuff, supervisors anyway. if you actually want to keep families together, the supervisors will edit your paperwork to death to send a message of stop caring and destroy. for instance, a safety Ax and risk Ax is done on each report. the risk Ax determines if the child stays or not. done by points. if a mother is under 30 that is automatic points against. any previous reports, substantiated or not, points against. food stamps, medicaid, points. low income - points. bad car - points. of course criminal records, bad credit, school attendance issues -- points. workers are supposed to look for kinship, but those relatives have to pass home study and risk Ax too.

family court, workers, cops and lawyers on both sides play on facebook in the back and joke about the clients and taking kids. defense attorney too. ruining families is just something to do between lunch breaks and paper work. cops brag they don't have all the paperwork to destroy, and plus they get guns. cops routinely batter domestic call callers, beat up and push parents in front of kids, and yell and threaten callers or clients to make them cry and confess to something. i couldn't take it, i honestly couldn't believe it. i tried, but no way is anyone going to change the system, it changes you.
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Green Bay, WI here. Daughter in third grade. Never had a problem or been questioned in the 3 years she's been in school.
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one of many reasons we home school at my house
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from another thread:
Thread: Stay away from Europe if you have kids!

i just left my job of two years as a CPS social worker for NC, worked in GA for DFCS before that with worker from England. Our laws are changing monthly for the worse. we take guns for any report now, despite substantiated or not.

I was lead SWIII A/I&T. that meant i handled sex/ physical abuse with some neglect. there are federal monies for foster care placement, in which some goes to the acting dept. so there are incentives. LE, or police use us for getting into homes without search warrants just on our suspicion. Corruption abounds, especially with medicaid fraud, coupled with city, county managers with the DSS directors.

99% of workers get off on destroying families in court, and are pill addicts, miserable due to so much paperwork, and get into a frenzy with LE when it comes to invading houses. I was good and smart but could not believe the ugliness. i worked for two separate counties in NC, and a one in GA. Same everywhere, worse in large cities. in fact Atlanta was recently under federal receivership due to corruption. Savannah GA has thousands in foster care, and that is not kinship placement.

dear county letter come monthly that the feds send directors on all the new laws that keep getting added and changed, that are always more predatory. workers also have to train in homeland security stuff, supervisors anyway. if you actually want to keep families together, the supervisors will edit your paperwork to death to send a message of stop caring and destroy. for instance, a safety Ax and risk Ax is done on each report. the risk Ax determines if the child stays or not. done by points. if a mother is under 30 that is automatic points against. any previous reports, substantiated or not, points against. food stamps, medicaid, points. low income - points. bad car - points. of course criminal records, bad credit, school attendance issues -- points. workers are supposed to look for kinship, but those relatives have to pass home study and risk Ax too.

family court, workers, cops and lawyers on both sides play on facebook in the back and joke about the clients and taking kids. defense attorney too. ruining families is just something to do between lunch breaks and paper work. cops brag they don't have all the paperwork to destroy, and plus they get guns. cops routinely batter domestic call callers, beat up and push parents in front of kids, and yell and threaten callers or clients to make them cry and confess to something. i couldn't take it, i honestly couldn't believe it. i tried, but no way is anyone going to change the system, it changes you.
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Thanks for the info. Terrible :(
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Green Bay, WI here. Daughter in third grade. Never had a problem or been questioned in the 3 years she's been in school.
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The book I am quoting is from 2010 and geared toward early childhood educators. The people graduating don't teach in elementary school until and unless they go for further education.

In my classes the students will be graduating this year and next to go to work in laboratory schools, day cares and some kindergarten.

Trust me when I say the folks in my classes would not think twice about reporting a kid with no vaccines. They would not be called critical thinkers.
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from another thread:
Thread: Stay away from Europe if you have kids!

i just left my job of two years as a CPS social worker for NC, worked in GA for DFCS before that with worker from England. Our laws are changing monthly for the worse. we take guns for any report now, despite substantiated or not.

I was lead SWIII A/I&T. that meant i handled sex/ physical abuse with some neglect. there are federal monies for foster care placement, in which some goes to the acting dept. so there are incentives. LE, or police use us for getting into homes without search warrants just on our suspicion. Corruption abounds, especially with medicaid fraud, coupled with city, county managers with the DSS directors.

99% of workers get off on destroying families in court, and are pill addicts, miserable due to so much paperwork, and get into a frenzy with LE when it comes to invading houses. I was good and smart but could not believe the ugliness. i worked for two separate counties in NC, and a one in GA. Same everywhere, worse in large cities. in fact Atlanta was recently under federal receivership due to corruption. Savannah GA has thousands in foster care, and that is not kinship placement.

dear county letter come monthly that the feds send directors on all the new laws that keep getting added and changed, that are always more predatory. workers also have to train in homeland security stuff, supervisors anyway. if you actually want to keep families together, the supervisors will edit your paperwork to death to send a message of stop caring and destroy. for instance, a safety Ax and risk Ax is done on each report. the risk Ax determines if the child stays or not. done by points. if a mother is under 30 that is automatic points against. any previous reports, substantiated or not, points against. food stamps, medicaid, points. low income - points. bad car - points. of course criminal records, bad credit, school attendance issues -- points. workers are supposed to look for kinship, but those relatives have to pass home study and risk Ax too.

family court, workers, cops and lawyers on both sides play on facebook in the back and joke about the clients and taking kids. defense attorney too. ruining families is just something to do between lunch breaks and paper work. cops brag they don't have all the paperwork to destroy, and plus they get guns. cops routinely batter domestic call callers, beat up and push parents in front of kids, and yell and threaten callers or clients to make them cry and confess to something. i couldn't take it, i honestly couldn't believe it. i tried, but no way is anyone going to change the system, it changes you.
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I know of several CPS's case workers, and another DSHS case manager, who are pill addicts, and one who is a heavy pot smoker.

I am a mandated reporter, in a health agency. It is not part of our training to report on one's immunization status. It disgusts me that this is what they are teaching college students. They are doing all they can to get complete control over innoculations in America. It's disgusting...simply disgusting.
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from another thread:
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i just left my job of two years as a CPS social worker for NC, worked in GA for DFCS before that with worker from England. Our laws are changing monthly for the worse. we take guns for any report now, despite substantiated or not.

I was lead SWIII A/I&T. that meant i handled sex/ physical abuse with some neglect. there are federal monies for foster care placement, in which some goes to the acting dept. so there are incentives. LE, or police use us for getting into homes without search warrants just on our suspicion. Corruption abounds, especially with medicaid fraud, coupled with city, county managers with the DSS directors.

99% of workers get off on destroying families in court, and are pill addicts, miserable due to so much paperwork, and get into a frenzy with LE when it comes to invading houses. I was good and smart but could not believe the ugliness. i worked for two separate counties in NC, and a one in GA. Same everywhere, worse in large cities. in fact Atlanta was recently under federal receivership due to corruption. Savannah GA has thousands in foster care, and that is not kinship placement.

dear county letter come monthly that the feds send directors on all the new laws that keep getting added and changed, that are always more predatory. workers also have to train in homeland security stuff, supervisors anyway. if you actually want to keep families together, the supervisors will edit your paperwork to death to send a message of stop caring and destroy. for instance, a safety Ax and risk Ax is done on each report. the risk Ax determines if the child stays or not. done by points. if a mother is under 30 that is automatic points against. any previous reports, substantiated or not, points against. food stamps, medicaid, points. low income - points. bad car - points. of course criminal records, bad credit, school attendance issues -- points. workers are supposed to look for kinship, but those relatives have to pass home study and risk Ax too.

family court, workers, cops and lawyers on both sides play on facebook in the back and joke about the clients and taking kids. defense attorney too. ruining families is just something to do between lunch breaks and paper work. cops brag they don't have all the paperwork to destroy, and plus they get guns. cops routinely batter domestic call callers, beat up and push parents in front of kids, and yell and threaten callers or clients to make them cry and confess to something. i couldn't take it, i honestly couldn't believe it. i tried, but no way is anyone going to change the system, it changes you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13157426


I know of several CPS's case workers, and another DSHS case manager, who are pill addicts, and one who is a heavy pot smoker.

I am a mandated reporter, in a health agency. It is not part of our training to report on one's immunization status. It disgusts me that this is what they are teaching college students. They are doing all they can to get complete control over innoculations in America. It's disgusting...simply disgusting.
 Quoting: Seagal5



If your training changes update the thread hf

I was rather shocked when I read ahead in the book.

As I said the book was last updated in 2010 so it may be a new, insidious thing they're putting in the curriculum, but I noticed that all the curriculums in my courses overlapped.

And the discussions I experienced in class were short and sweet - vaccines cause no harm - end of discussion.
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Vaccines are poison. True. My daughter was damaged, but we mostly have fixed her. I myself still suffer from vaccine damage. If they try to vaccine against my will, I will not stand by idle.
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Schools are calling childrens services for anything they decide to be bad.
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First of all, you have to present the school with a religious exemption form, signed. That's a legal document. If they don't contest the document, then if they called the family pigs on you, then they have a problem. Secondly, you people need to be ready to lawyer up in this life. They generally pursue cheap ass loud mouths that are too ignorant to hire an aggressive attorney until its too late. You should have an attorney in mind for various problems that can arise in anyone's life. At least have some phone numbers in your pocket, even if you're too cheap to buy a retainer. It's a game, you gotta have a team to play the game. That's life. Nothing new.
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People have lawyered UP. The junk they are pulling is new. New rules / unwritten regulations. For example: You dont have 2 gallons of milk in your ice box, what your dishwasher just stopped working?, You dont make enough money. How much is enough? We dont know, but you dont make enough. Some of the nonsense reasons I've seen as a paramedic from DFS themselves. And its getting worse.
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People have lawyered UP. The junk they are pulling is new. New rules / unwritten regulations. For example: You dont have 2 gallons of milk in your ice box, what your dishwasher just stopped working?, You dont make enough money. How much is enough? We dont know, but you dont make enough. Some of the nonsense reasons I've seen as a paramedic from DFS themselves. And its getting worse.
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It's all relative. If you let people like that in your home and you don't have your house in order then ya, they document petty stuff. That is true. People generally aren't emotionally, mentally, or legally prepared for legal encounters with any authorities. Call it bad planning for the unknown, whatever. Life is about contingencies because shit happens and it happens to everyone at some point whether you think you deserve it or not isn't relevant whatsoever.

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