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The Jewish Messiah YESHUA vs. The Roman Jesus

 
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The Jewish Messiah YESHUA vs. The Roman Jesus
They are not the same...

The Jewish Messiah YESHUA said that if you Love Me keep My Commandments.... that you may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


The Roman Jesus says my instructions in righteousness are a curse, bondage, i have changed, you should not try to keep them anymore.

The Jewish Messiah YESHUA kept the Sabbath, and if we say that we know Him, we are to walk as He walked = Live our lives

There remains a Sabbatismos/Keeping Sabbath for the people of Elohiym Hebrews 4:9

The Roman Jesus says sunday is the sabbath, or every day is my sabbath now...OY VEY

The Jewish Messiah YESHUA said do this in Remembrance of Me

Keep the Passover

The Roman Jesus says Easter is now the day to remember, named after the pagan goddess ashtoreth, the goddess the children of Israel made altars for in the land, and because of this, they were kicked out of YHWH's House...His Land

the gentiles will say we have inherited lies, things wherein is no profit

sunday sabbath, ishtar worship with swine's flesh and christmas the birthday of mythra

The Jewish Messiah in Scriputre IS NOT the pagan roman Jesus

note, this isn't about the name, the name Jesus is OK, if it is the Right Jesus, YESHUA is prefered by those who come to know the difference, in order to make a distinction.



Shabbat Shalom
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Yet, Hebrew Yeshua was translated to Greek Iesus by the Apostles in the 1st century.
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Yet, Hebrew Yeshua was translated to Greek Iesus by the Apostles in the 1st century.
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that is why i said it is not about the name, do i believe that the Hebrew language is superior

Yes, emphatically, empirically, most certainly i do

Zephaniah 3:8 This is The Only verse in all of the Tanakh, the Hebrew Scriptures where a single verse has all 22 Hebrew Letters, with all five final forms in one verse

followed by


9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of YAHUWAH, to serve Him with one consent.

YESHUA, following the Resurrection when HE spoke to saul changed to Paul, He spoke to him in the Hebrew Tongue

YESHUA, Salvation - He will Save

You shall name Him YESHUA, for HE Will Save His People

Names have meaning in the Hebrew, not so much in the Greek language or English

that's all

Shabbat Shalom
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Isaiah 58:13 If you turn back your foot from the sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day; and call the
Sabbath a delight, the Holy of YHWH, honourable; and shalt honour Him
, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words:

14 Then shall you delight thyself in YHWH; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Ya'acob your father: for the mouth of YHWH hath spoken it.


Amein





Shema Yisra'EL
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What day do you celebrate the sabbath on?
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Since there were exactly ZERO "jewish people" 2000 years ago, you can be pretty sure the "jesus" you worship in your churches is not the one of those times either. Ponder that. There were no jewish people on this planet until the 1700's when the Khazar Zionists named themselves that and then rewrote your bible to suit their takeover of this world as "gods chosen people". NOT.
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What day do you celebrate the sabbath on?
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OH GOOD LORDY DO NOT START THIS ONE AGAIN. THE FATHER REQUIRES EXACTLY NO SABBATH EITHER. THIS IS A FAKE LAW PUT INTO YOUR BIBLE THE LAW CORRECTLY STATED IS EVERY DAY IS GOD'S DAY. THE SO CALLED SABBATH AND IT MATTERS NOT WHICH DAY, IS AN UNTRUTH. PERIOD. IT WAS CREATED TO RIP YOU OFF OF YOUR MONEY, YOUR INTELLIGENCE AND YOUR TIME. WORKS WELL DOESN'T IT?
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What's the matrix?

They are the same / They're not the same

And the positive/negative for both?
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Since there were exactly ZERO "jewish people" 2000 years ago, you can be pretty sure the "jesus" you worship in your churches is not the one of those times either. Ponder that. There were no jewish people on this planet until the 1700's when the Khazar Zionists named themselves that and then rewrote your bible to suit their takeover of this world as "gods chosen people". NOT.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Yes there were Hebrews or the tribe of Judah today referred to as J e w s.

There was also the Samaritans at the time who claimed to be Jewish. Jesus had an encounter with one at the well.

Of course you would need to be a Christian and believe the Bible, not martians, to have this conversation.
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Yet, Hebrew Yeshua was translated to Greek Iesus by the Apostles in the 1st century.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 314467


that is why i said it is not about the name, do i believe that the Hebrew language is superior

Yes, emphatically, empirically, most certainly i do

Zephaniah 3:8 This is The Only verse in all of the Tanakh, the Hebrew Scriptures where a single verse has all 22 Hebrew Letters, with all five final forms in one verse

followed by


9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of YAHUWAH, to serve Him with one consent.

YESHUA, following the Resurrection when HE spoke to saul changed to Paul, He spoke to him in the Hebrew Tongue

YESHUA, Salvation - He will Save

You shall name Him YESHUA, for HE Will Save His People

Names have meaning in the Hebrew, not so much in the Greek language or English

that's all

Shabbat Shalom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12750128


no salvation in pronunciation. The name of Jesus who was here 2000 years ago one of the godhead and creator who rested the 7th day, is different in other languages.

This sectarian malarkey is jesuitical to then support israel and futurist christian-zionism like any baptist error.

Israel is done and "broken off". The gospel went to all the world.

Futurism
[link to www.aloha.net]
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Isaiah 58:13 If you turn away your foot from the sabbath, from doing your pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honorable; and shall honor him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words:

58:14 Then shall you delight yourself in the LORD; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father: for the mouth of the LORD has spoken it.


Amein



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Shema Yisra'EL
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The KJB is the only trustworthy translation. The Lord means the only God and creator who is a three person Godhead to include Jesus and the Holy Ghost.
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What day do you celebrate the sabbath on?
 Quoting: Xerces


OH GOOD LORDY DO NOT START THIS ONE AGAIN. THE FATHER REQUIRES EXACTLY NO SABBATH EITHER. THIS IS A FAKE LAW PUT INTO YOUR BIBLE THE LAW CORRECTLY STATED IS EVERY DAY IS GOD'S DAY. THE SO CALLED SABBATH AND IT MATTERS NOT WHICH DAY, IS AN UNTRUTH. PERIOD. IT WAS CREATED TO RIP YOU OFF OF YOUR MONEY, YOUR INTELLIGENCE AND YOUR TIME. WORKS WELL DOESN'T IT?
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Do you believe what the word says? Is everything put in there and mistranslated too?
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Since there were exactly ZERO "jewish people" 2000 years ago, you can be pretty sure the "jesus" you worship in your churches is not the one of those times either. Ponder that. There were no jewish people on this planet until the 1700's when the Khazar Zionists named themselves that and then rewrote your bible to suit their takeover of this world as "gods chosen people". NOT.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


you are as confused as a person can possibly be....i suspect demon posession

In the Name of YESHUA, come out of this Nobody you lying spirit

sometimes these kind only come out by prayer and fasting

Baruch haShem
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What day do you celebrate the sabbath on?
 Quoting: Xerces


The Shabbat begins at sunset on the sixth day until sunset on the seventh

The Biblical year just Started Rosh Chodesh Abib 1

Erev Pesach, 4/5/2012 , The night YESHUA ate the Passover with His Disciples
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What's the matrix?

They are the same / They're not the same

And the positive/negative for both?
 Quoting: Supercruiserweight


Interesting thought, partially true.....but now the times of ignorace are over, these things are easily researched so that the truth can be known

and the ancient paths rediscovered
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What's the matrix?

They are the same / They're not the same

And the positive/negative for both?
 Quoting: Supercruiserweight


Interesting thought, partially true.....but now the times of ignorace are over, these things are easily researched so that the truth can be known

and the ancient paths rediscovered
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12750128





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op. you are going in the right direction, soon you will understand that jesus yeshua, was not the messiah foretold in the old and only testament.

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