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Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy

 
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here is that article from the first page

[link to www.myfoxtampabay.com]


quote from the article:

[...]What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.

The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


RTS Redux, thanks for the information.

Unfortunately, your dealing with BootsUpMyAss, Lurker, ac, and several other thinking impaired individuals.

They don't care about facts.

They just want to see Zimmerman roast regardless of what really happened.

Thanks again RTS, there are those of us who are genuinely interested in learning all there is to know about the truth behind this tragic event.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
I'm also wondering why he wasn't picked up by a department after 4 years if he completed the classes in 2008. But no matter the reason it still doesn't make him guilty or not.
 Quoting: January Wolves

A lot of Florida PD's have gone through long hiring freezes since the 2008 real estate collapse. I suspect only the cream of the cream are getting hired.
 Quoting: Aetius


True that. Could very well be the reason. As guys retire out they aren't all being replaced in my local county either.

Although, the jail is usually hiring correctional officers. Here jails are mandated by Title 15 to employ a certain amount of officers based on maximum capacity. The county has no choice to cut as they do patrol. Many of the correctional officers are just hanging out until something opens up in patrol. Even so the jail usually has a big turnover.

I was just curious. But as I said before even if Zimmerman had applied at p.d.'s and/or jails and had been rejected it doesn't make him guilty or not. And likewise Martin's hoodie and high school antics should have no bearing on the case.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
I don't know about all of the other murders in the area, this one is sad enough to watch unfold.

Hopefully things get cleaned up in the areas you are talking about.
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Do you want all the other suspected killers in the areas he/she is talking about to get toasted? Or do you think maybe you don't know enough yet, or maybe you're not so righteously outraged about those other events that the media haven't been sensitizing you to?
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
here is that article from the first page

[link to www.myfoxtampabay.com]


quote from the article:

[...]What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.

The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


RTS Redux, thanks for the information.

Unfortunately, your dealing with BootsUpMyAss, Lurker, ac, and several other thinking impaired individuals.

They don't care about facts.

They just want to see Zimmerman roast regardless of what really happened.

Thanks again RTS, there are those of us who are genuinely interested in learning all there is to know about the truth behind this tragic event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10132842


Actually, I'm interested in letting the grand jury learn all the relevant facts about the case and making whatever decision they make in an apolitical, unpressured way.

It would be best if this weren't tried in the press. Given that Obama already chose to express an opinion from the White House on this one incident in Sanford, FL that has no bearing on his duties as President, extra care should be taken to ensure, above all, that this choice does not infringe on anyone's rights.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


** SIGH ** (Another Legal **expert** weighing in on somethin way above his IQ level)

1. A person may call 911 as many times as they feel necessary. If police believe the calls were of a deliberately false nature, they would file charges against him.

** Please show me FL State statute backing up your claim

2. Who battered an officer? (a 2nd degree felony)? Zimmerman has no criminal history of assault on a law enforcement officer.

** Please provide a link or other verifiable information supporting your claim in #2

3. Anyone can carry a gun ANYWHERE if they are issued a valid Concealed Carry Permit in the state in which they are (or through reciprocity).

** Please provide a link to the FL State statute that shows "A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty"


The rest of your post is so full of errors that have already been discussed and disproved that it's not worth the time repeating it.

PLEASE READ OTHERS POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE STATEMENTS.
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I will back up my claims because I have nothing better to do at the moment...

1. A person can be arrested on as little as 2 false calls on grounds of harassment and false reporting. (it doesn't matter if you happen to guess right once out of 19, back to back false calls are investigated

source:
Reuters
FOXnews
and many many other sources...

Source:
As reported by Worldnews and MANY outlets and his neighbors, Zimmerman made many false calls (and I am sure he may have lucked up and gotten 1 right) But he should've been arrested if the legel system was working. 911 isn't for playing cop.

2. It is well known on many outlets that he was arrested for battering an officer

source:
[link to www.lcav.org]

and also was involoved in domestic violence with his wife, FUNNY thing, inwhich he inturn filed domestic violence against her. It seems he as a history of filing false claims that the victims themselves should be filing.

source among many:
[link to www.northmobilepost.com]

3. His weapon should have been revoked when he battered the officer

source among many:
[link to www.ejdirga.com]
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


** SIGH ** (Another Legal **expert** weighing in on somethin way above his IQ level)

1. A person may call 911 as many times as they feel necessary. If police believe the calls were of a deliberately false nature, they would file charges against him.

** Please show me FL State statute backing up your claim

2. Who battered an officer? (a 2nd degree felony)? Zimmerman has no criminal history of assault on a law enforcement officer.

** Please provide a link or other verifiable information supporting your claim in #2

3. Anyone can carry a gun ANYWHERE if they are issued a valid Concealed Carry Permit in the state in which they are (or through reciprocity).

** Please provide a link to the FL State statute that shows "A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty"


The rest of your post is so full of errors that have already been discussed and disproved that it's not worth the time repeating it.

PLEASE READ OTHERS POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE STATEMENTS.
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I will back up my claims because I have nothing better to do at the moment...

1. A person can be arrested on as little as 2 false calls on grounds of harassment and false reporting. (it doesn't matter if you happen to guess right once out of 19, back to back false calls are investigated

source:
Reuters
FOXnews
and many many other sources...

Source:
As reported by Worldnews and MANY outlets and his neighbors, Zimmerman made many false calls (and I am sure he may have lucked up and gotten 1 right) But he should've been arrested if the legel system was working. 911 isn't for playing cop.

2. It is well known on many outlets that he was arrested for battering an officer

source:
[link to www.lcav.org]

and also was involoved in domestic violence with his wife, FUNNY thing, inwhich he inturn filed domestic violence against her. It seems he as a history of filing false claims that the victims themselves should be filing.

source among many:
[link to www.northmobilepost.com]

3. His weapon should have been revoked when he battered the officer

source among many:
[link to www.ejdirga.com]
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


More assumptions.
#1 If he wan't arrested for harrassing 911 call then just MAYBE THEY WERE LEGIT?
#2 Arrested but not convicted. Arrests do not count for shit without a conviction.
#3 According to the court he did not batter a officer.
#4 It seems that you made up your mind watching CNN
Have a nice day
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This is stupid.

I read a quote from a black woman who called Zimmerman a white half.

Blacks are wanting to turn this into a race issue.

Zimmerman is not white. Not half white or a qaurter white. He is not white.

Then they blame the white police chief and threaten his kids.

What kind of sick f*cks do that?

black racist as*holes. Thats who.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


** SIGH ** (Another Legal **expert** weighing in on somethin way above his IQ level)

1. A person may call 911 as many times as they feel necessary. If police believe the calls were of a deliberately false nature, they would file charges against him.

** Please show me FL State statute backing up your claim

2. Who battered an officer? (a 2nd degree felony)? Zimmerman has no criminal history of assault on a law enforcement officer.

** Please provide a link or other verifiable information supporting your claim in #2

3. Anyone can carry a gun ANYWHERE if they are issued a valid Concealed Carry Permit in the state in which they are (or through reciprocity).

** Please provide a link to the FL State statute that shows "A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty"


The rest of your post is so full of errors that have already been discussed and disproved that it's not worth the time repeating it.

PLEASE READ OTHERS POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE STATEMENTS.
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I will back up my claims because I have nothing better to do at the moment...

1. A person can be arrested on as little as 2 false calls on grounds of harassment and false reporting. (it doesn't matter if you happen to guess right once out of 19, back to back false calls are investigated

source:
Reuters
FOXnews
and many many other sources...

Source:
As reported by Worldnews and MANY outlets and his neighbors, Zimmerman made many false calls (and I am sure he may have lucked up and gotten 1 right) But he should've been arrested if the legel system was working. 911 isn't for playing cop.

2. It is well known on many outlets that he was arrested for battering an officer

source:
[link to www.lcav.org]

and also was involoved in domestic violence with his wife, FUNNY thing, inwhich he inturn filed domestic violence against her. It seems he as a history of filing false claims that the victims themselves should be filing.

source among many:
[link to www.northmobilepost.com]

3. His weapon should have been revoked when he battered the officer

source among many:
[link to www.ejdirga.com]
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


More assumptions.
#1 If he wan't arrested for harrassing 911 call then just MAYBE THEY WERE LEGIT?
#2 Arrested but not convicted. Arrests do not count for shit without a conviction.
#3 According to the court he did not batter a officer.
#4 It seems that you made up your mind watching CNN
Have a nice day
 Quoting: whitemike761



I provided you with sources... none of which were CNN... you are using the Hitler defense now... I will not address you again until you prove worthy..
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** SIGH ** (Another Legal **expert** weighing in on somethin way above his IQ level)

1. A person may call 911 as many times as they feel necessary. If police believe the calls were of a deliberately false nature, they would file charges against him.

** Please show me FL State statute backing up your claim

2. Who battered an officer? (a 2nd degree felony)? Zimmerman has no criminal history of assault on a law enforcement officer.

** Please provide a link or other verifiable information supporting your claim in #2

3. Anyone can carry a gun ANYWHERE if they are issued a valid Concealed Carry Permit in the state in which they are (or through reciprocity).

** Please provide a link to the FL State statute that shows "A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty"


The rest of your post is so full of errors that have already been discussed and disproved that it's not worth the time repeating it.

PLEASE READ OTHERS POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE STATEMENTS.
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I will back up my claims because I have nothing better to do at the moment...

1. A person can be arrested on as little as 2 false calls on grounds of harassment and false reporting. (it doesn't matter if you happen to guess right once out of 19, back to back false calls are investigated

source:
Reuters
FOXnews
and many many other sources...

Source:
As reported by Worldnews and MANY outlets and his neighbors, Zimmerman made many false calls (and I am sure he may have lucked up and gotten 1 right) But he should've been arrested if the legel system was working. 911 isn't for playing cop.

2. It is well known on many outlets that he was arrested for battering an officer

source:
[link to www.lcav.org]

and also was involoved in domestic violence with his wife, FUNNY thing, inwhich he inturn filed domestic violence against her. It seems he as a history of filing false claims that the victims themselves should be filing.

source among many:
[link to www.northmobilepost.com]

3. His weapon should have been revoked when he battered the officer

source among many:
[link to www.ejdirga.com]
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


More assumptions.
#1 If he wan't arrested for harrassing 911 call then just MAYBE THEY WERE LEGIT?
#2 Arrested but not convicted. Arrests do not count for shit without a conviction.
#3 According to the court he did not batter a officer.
#4 It seems that you made up your mind watching CNN
Have a nice day
 Quoting: whitemike761



I provided you with sources... none of which were CNN... you are using the Hitler defense now... I will not address you again until you prove worthy..
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


Do your links provide any proof of CONVICTIONS? You are not worthy. Have you heard the unedited 911 tapes or the video of the witness on about page 8?
How about a link that says he made UNFOUNDED calls to police?
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
So Treyvon was afraid and he called 911?

LMAO ok i live in sanford. Typcially black people do not call 911. They dont trust the police. So i highly doubt a 17 year old black male called police. Highly doubtful.

Also if he was afraid, quess what? He was an athlete. Somehow i dont think the fat white guy could have caught him, if he had run.

Plus he called 911, and the DOJ is securing the recording? lmao the DOJ doesnt have ready access to 911 recordings? I think they do. Also why would they say they ahd him on tape, without the tape ready?

They wouldnt.

Oh plus everyone up above.

Zimmerman didnt call 911. He called the police station. He called a non emergency line. So anyone saying he called 911 all the time is STUPID.

Relevance? None.

Because he DIDNT CALL 911 THIS TIME. He called the police station.

Last Edited by Fatstogie on 03/25/2012 02:27 PM
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Why are you so fucking stupid?
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This is stupid.

I read a quote from a black woman who called Zimmerman a white half.

Blacks are wanting to turn this into a race issue.

Zimmerman is not white. Not half white or a qaurter white. He is not white.

Then they blame the white police chief and threaten his kids.

What kind of sick f*cks do that?

black racist as*holes. Thats who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10121589


They?? It was a white man who threated the chief... America wants an arrest.
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This is stupid.

I read a quote from a black woman who called Zimmerman a white half.

Blacks are wanting to turn this into a race issue.

Zimmerman is not white. Not half white or a qaurter white. He is not white.

Then they blame the white police chief and threaten his kids.

What kind of sick f*cks do that?

black racist as*holes. Thats who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10121589


They?? It was a white man who threated the chief... America wants an arrest.
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


The mob wants an arrest? Ok then i will give no arrest. Because mobs are the dumbest groups of individuals regardless of race.
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Why are you so fucking stupid?
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
This is stupid.

I read a quote from a black woman who called Zimmerman a white half.

Blacks are wanting to turn this into a race issue.

Zimmerman is not white. Not half white or a qaurter white. He is not white.

Then they blame the white police chief and threaten his kids.

What kind of sick f*cks do that?

black racist as*holes. Thats who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10121589


They?? It was a white man who threated the chief... America wants an arrest.
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


Lets come to your house and make a arrest. Didn't do anything wrong? Neither did Zimmerman according to Fla law.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Link to materials made available by the City of Sanford:

[link to sanfordfl.gov]
 Quoting: Aetius


Thanks. Ive heard all those tapes. I didn't know how to post the link. Listen to the unedited tape and the media tape of Zimmerman, its a oh fuck moment
 Quoting: whitemike761

Here:

[link to sanfordfl.gov]
 Quoting: Aetius


Let me put this over here for all you people. All recorded calls associated with this case 911 or otherwise
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Give me your proof that there was an eyewitness to the murder. Show me a quote/video/audio from either the police or the witness himself. Don't give me links to a website making general comments. It's a fair and simple request. Show me and I will apologize. This is the fourth/fifth time I've made this offer, NOT ONE of you has been able to show this proof.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


I suppose I can't make you watch this video but I've sure suggested it a few times



[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



has the retard watched the video yet? boots is just a troll and lies about every aspect of this case... definitely has an agenda that does not include seeking the truth.
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Just moveing this over for all you fine folks looking for truth.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
This is stupid.

I read a quote from a black woman who called Zimmerman a white half.

Blacks are wanting to turn this into a race issue.

Zimmerman is not white. Not half white or a qaurter white. He is not white.

Then they blame the white police chief and threaten his kids.

What kind of sick f*cks do that?

black racist as*holes. Thats who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10121589


They?? It was a white man who threated the chief... America wants an arrest.
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


people die every day. often more brutally than this. america wants an arrest?!? lol you mean, america looooooooves using morbid stories for entertainment. its at least one good one a year, usually starts around this time. and every year it gets a little bit more RIDICULOUS! last year it was caylee anthony...not that it wasn't sad and full of lies and obvious corruption...just that, sadly, in this day and age these types of things are not horribly uncommon so how do even supposedly aware GLPers latch on to these cases like there is anything to be seen or discovered other than its a PSY-OP and DISTRACTION and spending too much time getting wrapped up in it is just what they want. not for you to be aware that people kill people....and its wrong. LMFAO

i say leave this zimmerman guy alone. let the locals deal with it however they like, thats what all local govt/police do and none of them probably do it that great and all of them have to deal with just as many sad murder cases....usually more sad considering often times its obviously INNOCENT victims. not that trayvon wasn't innocent, but white black or fucking purple...he didn't LOOK innocent ffs.

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will someone please explain to me why this murder is getting so much attention? i understand it was an innocent child murdered in cold blood, but why aren't other cases like this given this much publicity?
 Quoting: DontBeFooled2012

Well the media hype is that he is totally innocent. Apparently they were there when it went down.
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Seems to me people on both sides of the issue are jumping to conclusions based upon news reports that may or may not be correct and/or factual.

You've also got people on boths sides trying to foment racial divisions.

Like they say, "Just the facts Maam".

I am sure the police in this case will ferret out the facts and recommend to the district attourney what they have found.
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Very well said!
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This is stupid.

I read a quote from a black woman who called Zimmerman a white half.

Blacks are wanting to turn this into a race issue.

Zimmerman is not white. Not half white or a qaurter white. He is not white.

Then they blame the white police chief and threaten his kids.

What kind of sick f*cks do that?

black racist as*holes. Thats who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10121589


They?? It was a white man who threated the chief... America wants an arrest.
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


people die every day. often more brutally than this. america wants an arrest?!? lol you mean, america looooooooves using morbid stories for entertainment. its at least one good one a year, usually starts around this time. and every year it gets a little bit more RIDICULOUS! last year it was caylee anthony...not that it wasn't sad and full of lies and obvious corruption...just that, sadly, in this day and age these types of things are not horribly uncommon so how do even supposedly aware GLPers latch on to these cases like there is anything to be seen or discovered other than its a PSY-OP and DISTRACTION and spending too much time getting wrapped up in it is just what they want. not for you to be aware that people kill people....and its wrong. LMFAO

i say leave this zimmerman guy alone. let the locals deal with it however they like, thats what all local govt/police do and none of them probably do it that great and all of them have to deal with just as many sad murder cases....usually more sad considering often times its obviously INNOCENT victims. not that trayvon wasn't innocent, but white black or fucking purple...he didn't LOOK innocent ffs.

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 Quoting: double_frick


He didn't look innocent??? That is the entire purpose of why this case is huge..... its bigger than the actual verdict whatever it maybe... people can't go around killing people because they don't like the way they look.
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I just read on ABC news that Trayvon Martin made his own call to 911 moments prior to the shooting. The DOJ is digging up his call from the dispatch center. Zimmerman may get roasted with that tape, then again hopefully they roast him anyways.

[link to abclocal.go.com]

Towards the end of the video.
 Quoting: JesseDart


You are not the judge, you are not the jury.

Since when has that TV channel ever been fair, unbiased and honest? The same DOJ who allowed the Black Panthers to threaten and intimidated voters in Philly? How much truth is to be found with the Fast and Furious Gang?

When will the truth come out that Zimmerman was NOT Caucasian? In the meantime the Van Jones, the Jackson's and Sharpie keep taking some black folks money. (Folks is Obama's word)

What say you to those 2 black teenagers that followed that 13 year old boy home from school and set him on fire, saying he deserved it because he was white. He deserved to roast because he was white?

Anyone who calls for whitey or blackie to be killed or roasted is immoral disgusting and probably committing a verbal crime. Incitement to violence certainly is.
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#1. You can call the police anytime you want. Maybe in Malaysia you have a 3 cop call limit. But not here.
#2. As much as you do not like it he does technically constitute law enforcement. This is private property
#3 What multiply grounds? Don't like someone asking why you are there? That justifies a punch in the mouth. Maybe in Malaysia
Bullshit Postwhatever
 Quoting: whitemike761


Whitemike, you still have not provided any evidence of your imaginary eyewitness. You also have failed to apologize to me, and have clearly decided to evade the issue.

On top of that, you also just displayed your inability to read. I did not write the post above. But for the record, as an American, I know that multiple calls to 911 without a valid reason can be construed as harassment and you can be arrested for that.

Furthermore, he is not 'LAW ENFORCEMENT'. Not technically, not mathematically, not historically. His neighborhood watch isn't even an official one. Plus, his actions broke so many rules, he could've been arrested if the murder did not take place.

Your ignorance is shocking.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


While I looked for the link, someone posted it. Just above. Do I expect a apology? Of course not, but it fucks your whole argument. Have a nice day at your Lynch Zimmerman Rally
 Quoting: whitemike761


Yes, I expect an apology. You, along with many others, still have not shown me an eyewitness to the murder. You know, considering the amount of nonsense your write, I half expect you to make things up again. The fact remains that no one saw the murder, no one made a statement to that effect to the police, the witness in the video did not witness the murder. Sigh. Morons.

I seriously doubt you've traveled anywhere. Your posts in GLP betrays your narrow mindedness. As for the flag, it is automatic. And for the record, there is no 'American' language. Now, please, stop trolling. You are neither funny, insightful or interesting.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld

I'll admit that I only saw Kuala Lumpur and Georgetown, so I'm presumably less well-traveled than someone native to the country such as yourself. As to the flag, it reflects the country you choose when you sign up for an account. I have to hand it to you, though - apart from occasional lapses, your American is *almost* pitch perfect.
 Quoting: Aetius

Wow. So you can use Google to find the names of towns here. As for the flag, it is automatic. lol. You really crack me up, Aetius. But I understand. Diversion is always a great weapon when trying to evade a topic.

Anyway, I'll be back later to check on your troll posts.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


Ok Boots i will give you that one. No actuall eyewitness to the shooting, but a eyewitness to a beating that justifies self defense. Come out from your rock with that apology
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Re: Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy
Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


** SIGH ** (Another Legal **expert** weighing in on somethin way above his IQ level)

1. A person may call 911 as many times as they feel necessary. If police believe the calls were of a deliberately false nature, they would file charges against him.

** Please show me FL State statute backing up your claim

2. Who battered an officer? (a 2nd degree felony)? Zimmerman has no criminal history of assault on a law enforcement officer.

** Please provide a link or other verifiable information supporting your claim in #2

3. Anyone can carry a gun ANYWHERE if they are issued a valid Concealed Carry Permit in the state in which they are (or through reciprocity).

** Please provide a link to the FL State statute that shows "A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty"


The rest of your post is so full of errors that have already been discussed and disproved that it's not worth the time repeating it.

PLEASE READ OTHERS POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE STATEMENTS.
 Quoting: Nemamiah


I will back up my claims because I have nothing better to do at the moment...

1. A person can be arrested on as little as 2 false calls on grounds of harassment and false reporting. (it doesn't matter if you happen to guess right once out of 19, back to back false calls are investigated

source:
Reuters
FOXnews
and many many other sources...

Source:
As reported by Worldnews and MANY outlets and his neighbors, Zimmerman made many false calls (and I am sure he may have lucked up and gotten 1 right) But he should've been arrested if the legel system was working. 911 isn't for playing cop.

2. It is well known on many outlets that he was arrested for battering an officer

source:
[link to www.lcav.org]

and also was involoved in domestic violence with his wife, FUNNY thing, inwhich he inturn filed domestic violence against her. It seems he as a history of filing false claims that the victims themselves should be filing.

source among many:
[link to www.northmobilepost.com]

3. His weapon should have been revoked when he battered the officer

source among many:
[link to www.ejdirga.com]
 Quoting: FutureKnowledge


More assumptions.
#1 If he wan't arrested for harrassing 911 call then just MAYBE THEY WERE LEGIT?
#2 Arrested but not convicted. Arrests do not count for shit without a conviction.
#3 According to the court he did not batter a officer.
#4 It seems that you made up your mind watching CNN
Have a nice day
 Quoting: whitemike761


Don't bother.... most of these people are emotionally involved at this point. The facts don't mean jack shit to them anymore. ~racists, stalking, Jerk, aggressor.... amazing how many adjectives and other descriptions are applied to Zimmerman w/o any proof what so ever as well. And how many of them "just know what really happened" when certain things are not known at all? Pathetic. But any witnesses going against their race baiting rhetoric is basically just disregarded.

Major Kool-aid drinking going on with this case that the media is hyping up and profiting off of.

I am going just by the facts and will regulate my opinion BASED upon current facts and any that present themselves in future. I am on neither "side" of this "story" per say... but I can tell you this I am not damning zimmerman at this point either.

Personally I give up,,, I figure it would be better to go out and buy napkins in bulk to offer up to all those wearing Kool-aid mustaches around here.
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*So I am an Ultra feminist because I won't buy into your 'ALL Women are evil' crap? No wait... Maybe I am a woman hater because I won't buy into your mantra that 'ALL men are evil and are responsible for everything wrong in my life' crap??? So be it ~At least I am not a drooling whiney idiot for buying into the -male vs Female gender war games- to begin with!!
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Where the hell is that Trayvon 911 call? That should be enough to shut one side or the other up. Right now the evidence is in Zimmermans favor.
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Where the hell is that Trayvon 911 call? That should be enough to shut one side or the other up. Right now the evidence is in Zimmermans favor.
 Quoting: whitemike761



You are absolutely right. So far EVIDENCE and FACTS point in that direction.

Last Edited by BlackCat on 03/25/2012 03:20 PM
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are always too many Democratic congressmen, too many Republican congressmen, and never enough U.S. congressmen. ~Author Unknown

*So I am an Ultra feminist because I won't buy into your 'ALL Women are evil' crap? No wait... Maybe I am a woman hater because I won't buy into your mantra that 'ALL men are evil and are responsible for everything wrong in my life' crap??? So be it ~At least I am not a drooling whiney idiot for buying into the -male vs Female gender war games- to begin with!!
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I just read on ABC news that Trayvon Martin made his own call to 911 moments prior to the shooting. The DOJ is digging up his call from the dispatch center. Zimmerman may get roasted with that tape, then again hopefully they roast him anyways.

[link to abclocal.go.com]

Towards the end of the video.
 Quoting: JesseDart


Why do you hate the Second Amendment, sir?
 Quoting: Guns n' God (redux)


What makes you think I hate the Second Amendment?

I have a great respect for all of our constitution, and the 2nd Amendment is way up on my list. What I don't like is people who are bullies that think that because they have a gun, they are some sort of badass out to change the world.

Zimmerman was a coward from everything that I've seen. If he is convicted of anything in this whole mess, I hope that is a wakeup call for people to really sit and think about the responsibility of carrying a gun.
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you are completely clueless in the case. you have done zero research and are way behind others in ferreting out the truth.

zimmerman had every right to ask trayvon a simple question and as of right now no one knows what set off trayvon to start beating zimmerman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


Just like you are probably one of the whiners about overzealous cops, who actually have authority to enforce the law, yet you defend Zimmerman who has no authority whatsoever. You are the one who is clueless.

How do you know Martin started the beating, I don't. How do you know that Zimmerman didn't try to pull some bullshit on Martin with a citizens arrest or say he is going to detain the boy until police arrive, and then it's on? You don't know and neither do I. All I am saying is that if Zimmerman had called 911 and went about his business like he should have and was instructed to do, Martin would still be alive.
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Trayvon Martin R.I.P. hf
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So with this kind of garbage happening everyday, somewhere, why do you think this particular incident was chosen to get the attention? Think about it, who's going to benifit from this? Think now.
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I just read on ABC news that Trayvon Martin made his own call to 911 moments prior to the shooting. The DOJ is digging up his call from the dispatch center. Zimmerman may get roasted with that tape, then again hopefully they roast him anyways.

[link to abclocal.go.com]

Towards the end of the video.
 Quoting: JesseDart


Diggin up? If he called 911 it would have already been in the first report..
 Quoting: ceawaves


Not necessarily, if Trayvon made his own phone call, it may have been associated with Zimmerman's suspicious subject call, but the audio is usually held separately from the text calls. Depending on how new their system is, retrieving it and attempting to enhance the background audio could be a chore.
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will someone please explain to me why this murder is getting so much attention? i understand it was an innocent child murdered in cold blood, but why aren't other cases like this given this much publicity?
 Quoting: DontBeFooled2012


Because the young man laid in the morgue for two days while his family looked for him and the police showed no interest in finding the killer or what happened until the press got a hold of the story.

This happened Feb 29, 2012, that is a long time for a family to look for answers
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young black teens dont need weapons
they are quick to threaten and attack

we all know this

maybe that "kid"
threatened to kill him

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