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Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy

 
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You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.
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Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


Again, had he been guilty of either he COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO THE ACADEMY, especially with domestic violence. Look it up.

You also do not know the circumstances surrounding the cop incident, especially in that part of Florida. If the cop chooses, any touch of any sort on a cop is an automatic charge, regardless of the intent.

Until the States Attorney takes it in front of the Grand Jury (which he has to have the evidence) all of these accusations, assumptions, and flat out Zimmerman-hate, without knowing all the facts, is sick.

This is still America, whether we recognize it or not, and he has the right of a trial and to be innocent until proven guilty. Oh, and don't go jumping on the "oh that poor boy had rights too," crap.. He could have simply answered the simple question.. no harm in that.

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The way I see it, he had no business confronting the kid, especially since he was told not to.

As a neighborhood watcher, he abused his imaginary power. Sure, he had a permit to carry a gun. "Stand Your Ground" doesn't mean you can intimidate others like you have some type of authority, kill the kid, and pull the self defense card.
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Why do you guys keep calling him "white-trash" or "redneck," he is Latino.. I also don't see how you call him racist, it is ridiculous.

As for gun training, it is part of the police academy training, which he had in 2008; as for the charge from 2005 that several people have brought up, if was serious then he would have not qualified for the police training. He had every right to have a gun, train for a gun, and use the gun if he felt threatened.

You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.

Then again, most you you guys are trying to lynch this guy based on biased, agenda driven media reports and edited 911 calls.

One more thing.. if you are going to act gangster/thug, dress gangster/thug, and put off that you are big and bad.. then don't be surprised that people are going to treat you that way!

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Well, for the record, my own references to white-trash rednecks had to do with the dumbass whose video was posted earlier.

But walk a mile in Trayvon's shoes for a minute. Imagine walking home from the store with your Arizona Ice Tea in hand, when you happen to notice that some guy was watching you. Then, following you...
Not fun. Not right.

And if you wound up dead because this guy shot you, don't you think that your family would demand an arrest?

And if it turned out that the police had not done a *complete* investigation for any reason, wouldn't you expect that your family would go to the media in order to get support -- in order to make certain that a thorough investigation, completely above board, is accomplished?

Take all racial inferences out of this situation. Try not to view it emotionally. Just imagine yourself in those same circumstances. Imagine how your family would react to your sudden death.

I walk around my neighborhood when I want to. I don't expect to be watched by someone carrying a gun. I certainly don't expect to be followed. And if that did happen, I would confront the SOB -- or maybe just try to get away. I don't know. But damn it. This is supposed to be a free country where people can walk back from the neighborhood store with their can of Arizona Ice Tea in hand and expect to get home without being shot.

This is wrong. This is fishy. This is stupid. This is intollerable.

I want an investigation. I want justice for this family. I want the police and all wannabe police to be on notice that you just don't get to shoot people for walking home from the store and expect to get away with it.

But this is not about race.
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Link to materials made available by the City of Sanford:

[link to sanfordfl.gov]
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The way I see it, he had no business confronting the kid, especially since he was told not to.

As a neighborhood watcher, he abused his imaginary power. Sure, he had a permit to carry a gun. "Stand Your Ground" doesn't mean you can intimidate others like you have some type of authority, kill the kid, and pull the self defense card.
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Exactly. Well said.
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because the prosecutors couldn't even justify a charge of manslaughter...

you do realize that trayvon was on top of zimmerman beating him silly when george shot him? george was begging someone to help and no one would... all they know how to do is run inside and lock the doors and call 911.
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False. No one, as far as I know, saw the incident. However, at least two neighbors heard their altercation. Trayvon was crying and pleading to Zimmerman. They have made a statement to that effect.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


No they don't. There is a eyewitness who seen Zimmerman calling for help, and has been there since the very night of the shooting. Just because he doesn't want to parade around for CNN and FOX you cannot dispute what he says. Those 2 ladies "heard" a fight and "thought" it was Trayvon who was screaming. Did you listen to the tape? Wouldn't matter, you don't know either. Thank You, this verdict brought to you by CNN
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In other words, you know of a witness that the police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off? The two witnesses was certain of their testimony, and didn't simply 'thought' of it. Thank you. This verdict was brought to you by ignorance and made up stories.
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That witness made the statement the night of the shooting. All those agencies that you listed know about him. The media chooses to ignore him. Those 2 ladies didn't see anything, they admit that and the 911 tapes back that up. They have only said they were certain that Trayvon was screaming. How can you be certain when you didnt actually see anything. The unedited tapes are avaliable at the Sanford Police Dept. Go listen to the unedited tapes and admit your decision was made by CNN.
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You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.
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Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


his assault came from a friends encounter with police.. zimmerman put a hand on one of the cops, nothing more.
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How do you plead guilty to escape prosecution?
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You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9658314


Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


his assault came from a friends encounter with police.. zimmerman put a hand on one of the cops, nothing more.
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How do you plead guilty to escape prosecution?
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I have no knowledge of the details behind his 2005 arrest, and I would like to know where you got yours.

As for escaping prosecution, the pretrial intervention offers first-time offenders the chance to participate in a diversionary program. Participants’ records are cleared if they complete the program, which involves counseling, community service and restitution.
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Link to materials made available by the City of Sanford:

[link to sanfordfl.gov]
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Thanks. Ive heard all those tapes. I didn't know how to post the link. Listen to the unedited tape and the media tape of Zimmerman, its a oh fuck moment
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Link to materials made available by the City of Sanford:

[link to sanfordfl.gov]
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Thanks. Ive heard all those tapes. I didn't know how to post the link. Listen to the unedited tape and the media tape of Zimmerman, its a oh fuck moment
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Here:

[link to sanfordfl.gov]
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This case definitely needs to be tried in court, at least for the families sake. I can see where things don't seem quite right from listening to the 911 tape. Imagine being the parent listening to the tape, knowing your son is innocent and has been killed. Zimmerman sounds like he already made it up in his mind that Treyvon was up to no good, which turned out to be wrong. On top of that he sounds like he called him a coon. It's sad to hear some people don't see that this isn't right, it isn't justice. You can't kill someone and claim self defense after all that had happened that night. I understand why some people see this as racist because it seems as if the police didn't care enough.

Really when you look at it, he should have just stayed in his car. He says the kid was staring at him and then coming to check him out, but he was staring at him as well. Why would anyone about to to do something illegal come closer to be identified. If I was up to no good and someone spotted me, I would have taken off running from the start. His family stated that he went to the store and was coming back to watch the NBA all star game. The all star game was on from 7pm to 930 pm, maybe 10, who breaks in somewhere around those times.

So he follows him, even when the police tell him not to follow after him. Now why would they say we don't need you to do that? Probably because it's not his job to follow him, and it's not a safe thing to do. I wont argue racism, but there's no way Zimmerman should just get off free.
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You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9658314


Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


Again, had he been guilty of either he COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO THE ACADEMY, especially with domestic violence. Look it up.

You also do not know the circumstances surrounding the cop incident, especially in that part of Florida. If the cop chooses, any touch of any sort on a cop is an automatic charge, regardless of the intent.

Until the States Attorney takes it in front of the Grand Jury (which he has to have the evidence) all of these accusations, assumptions, and flat out Zimmerman-hate, without knowing all the facts, is sick.

This is still America, whether we recognize it or not, and he has the right of a trial and to be innocent until proven guilty. Oh, and don't go jumping on the "oh that poor boy had rights too," crap.. He could have simply answered the simple question.. no harm in that.

peace
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I do not know the circumstances behind his arrest in 2005, but he did plead guilty and entered into a pretrial intervention program to escape prosecution.

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False. No one, as far as I know, saw the incident. However, at least two neighbors heard their altercation. Trayvon was crying and pleading to Zimmerman. They have made a statement to that effect.
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No they don't. There is a eyewitness who seen Zimmerman calling for help, and has been there since the very night of the shooting. Just because he doesn't want to parade around for CNN and FOX you cannot dispute what he says. Those 2 ladies "heard" a fight and "thought" it was Trayvon who was screaming. Did you listen to the tape? Wouldn't matter, you don't know either. Thank You, this verdict brought to you by CNN
 Quoting: whitemike761


In other words, you know of a witness that the police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off? The two witnesses was certain of their testimony, and didn't simply 'thought' of it. Thank you. This verdict was brought to you by ignorance and made up stories.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


That witness made the statement the night of the shooting. All those agencies that you listed know about him. The media chooses to ignore him. Those 2 ladies didn't see anything, they admit that and the 911 tapes back that up. They have only said they were certain that Trayvon was screaming. How can you be certain when you didnt actually see anything. The unedited tapes are avaliable at the Sanford Police Dept. Go listen to the unedited tapes and admit your decision was made by CNN.
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If the media ignored your witness, the PD could've made the statement to that effect right. They could've provided the information to Trayvon's mother and lawyer and ended the story right? But they didn't, and here you are trying to convince everyone of the existence of this imaginary witness based on a phone call to a small radio station

As for the two witnesses, you realize right that you have changed your comment about them in three consecutive posts?

Please, stick to the facts. Your interpretation of events and made up stories will not convince anyone.
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because the prosecutors couldn't even justify a charge of manslaughter...

you do realize that trayvon was on top of zimmerman beating him silly when george shot him? george was begging someone to help and no one would... all they know how to do is run inside and lock the doors and call 911.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


False. No one, as far as I know, saw the incident. However, at least two neighbors heard their altercation. Trayvon was crying and pleading to Zimmerman. They have made a statement to that effect.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld



liar... there is one EYEwitness to the fight/struggle just a minute or less before the gun went off.

the women that heard the screaming claimed it was from a little boy. there were no little boys.. trayvon is a 17 y/o man who is at least 6' 2" and plays football. the blonde witness has corrupted her own statements and she is useless.

both females admitted it was too dark to make out more than outlines of zimm and tray. they got most of their info from the mainstream media the following days... thats why they think trayvon was the one they heard... they still thought he was a little 11 y/o boy.
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There are NO eyewitness to the incident. The police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off the witness. Fact.

The two witnesses heard the and reported the incident wayyy before the media firestorm. Stop lying please. You are merely discrediting their statement because you don't like it.
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Listen to 911 #4 at the link I provided a couple of posts up. The woman, on the actual 911 call, says she is seeing a man in a white shirt on top of another man hitting him. Zimmerman was wearing a red shirt that night, Trevon a light grey hoodie. Which do you think would appear like a white shirt in the dark.


Please educate yourself before you sound like a mindless imbecile. Quit parroting the MSM bullshit.

IT WILL BE SHOWN (it's already been determined by the Sanford police, but it will be re-verified by the other agencies now that they're involved) that the shot trajectory angle indicates that Treyvon was shot from an angle consistent with him being on top of Zimmerman.
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Glp white people - get out from in front of the computer and get to know the people who live in your world or you'll one day be another Zimmerman....


The PC is the new idiotbox for you...

The PC cannot socialize you. Volunteer at a youth organization. Stop living in fear and blame and fucking paranoia. Everyone isn't out to get you some people really truly want to live their lives. I have six sons .. some of the most peaceful souls you could ever meet... one of them has more white friends than black one has more black friends than white - they just want live. They aren't interested in raping your daughters or killing off your sons.

This is 2012 for godssake... get out the fucking bubble!
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I played on a high school football team with only 5 white guys, I was bussed 18 miles to go to a school that was 70% black. This isn't a race issue for me, its about people trying this man in the court of public opinion, when the facts are alot different that the media is spewing. Hell i'm 1 of the 4 white americans who didn't form a opinion about O.J., and told many white people to shut up, because they didn't hear all the evidence, the jury did. I think Sharpton and Jackson need to shut up. They don't know shit
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because the prosecutors couldn't even justify a charge of manslaughter...

you do realize that trayvon was on top of zimmerman beating him silly when george shot him? george was begging someone to help and no one would... all they know how to do is run inside and lock the doors and call 911.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


False. No one, as far as I know, saw the incident. However, at least two neighbors heard their altercation. Trayvon was crying and pleading to Zimmerman. They have made a statement to that effect.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld



liar... there is one EYEwitness to the fight/struggle just a minute or less before the gun went off.

the women that heard the screaming claimed it was from a little boy. there were no little boys.. trayvon is a 17 y/o man who is at least 6' 2" and plays football. the blonde witness has corrupted her own statements and she is useless.

both females admitted it was too dark to make out more than outlines of zimm and tray. they got most of their info from the mainstream media the following days... thats why they think trayvon was the one they heard... they still thought he was a little 11 y/o boy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


There are NO eyewitness to the incident. The police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off the witness. Fact.

The two witnesses heard the and reported the incident wayyy before the media firestorm. Stop lying please. You are merely discrediting their statement because you don't like it.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


the two women were questioned and then tossed aside because they added nothing to the investigation. the blonde got mad and started whining to the media.

there was an eyewitness to the actual fight where zimmerman lay back down on the ground while trayvon was beating him. have you not seen the video? or are you just a filthy liar? i lean to the latter.
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Why do you guys keep calling him "white-trash" or "redneck," he is Latino.. I also don't see how you call him racist, it is ridiculous.

As for gun training, it is part of the police academy training, which he had in 2008; as for the charge from 2005 that several people have brought up, if was serious then he would have not qualified for the police training. He had every right to have a gun, train for a gun, and use the gun if he felt threatened.

You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.

Then again, most you you guys are trying to lynch this guy based on biased, agenda driven media reports and edited 911 calls.

One more thing.. if you are going to act gangster/thug, dress gangster/thug, and put off that you are big and bad.. then don't be surprised that people are going to treat you that way!

peace
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Well, for the record, my own references to white-trash rednecks had to do with the dumbass whose video was posted earlier.

But walk a mile in Trayvon's shoes for a minute. Imagine walking home from the store with your Arizona Ice Tea in hand, when you happen to notice that some guy was watching you. Then, following you...
Not fun. Not right.

And if you wound up dead because this guy shot you, don't you think that your family would demand an arrest?

And if it turned out that the police had not done a *complete* investigation for any reason, wouldn't you expect that your family would go to the media in order to get support -- in order to make certain that a thorough investigation, completely above board, is accomplished?

Take all racial inferences out of this situation. Try not to view it emotionally. Just imagine yourself in those same circumstances. Imagine how your family would react to your sudden death.

I walk around my neighborhood when I want to. I don't expect to be watched by someone carrying a gun. I certainly don't expect to be followed. And if that did happen, I would confront the SOB -- or maybe just try to get away. I don't know. But damn it. This is supposed to be a free country where people can walk back from the neighborhood store with their can of Arizona Ice Tea in hand and expect to get home without being shot.

This is wrong. This is fishy. This is stupid. This is intollerable.

I want an investigation. I want justice for this family. I want the police and all wannabe police to be on notice that you just don't get to shoot people for walking home from the store and expect to get away with it.

But this is not about race.
 Quoting: Lurker 6356307


I apologize that I miss understood the "white-trash" comment, but the rest of your post is non-sense. How do you know I am viewing this emotionally, or with race issues in mind.

I have been through something like this; and what the cops did was pretty much standard if all the evidence is there.

Your logic is faulty, if someone lives or visits a gated community, then of course there is going to be some sort of neighborhood watch or security; Zimmerman was captain of the neighborhood watch and did what I hope others would do, especially since there were a string of unsolved break ins.

Get off the justice train, if there was a 911 from the kid, it would be in the report.

He is not the innocent little boy you are being spoon fed that he was. He was a troubled, weed dealing (assuming from facebook references), thug wanna be.. and guess what, if you act, look, and try to be a thug, then people are going to treat you and watch you like one.

And yes, that will lead to questions when you are not recognized in a "GATED" "NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH" patrolled neighbor hood.


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Why do you guys keep calling him "white-trash" or "redneck," he is Latino.. I also don't see how you call him racist, it is ridiculous.

As for gun training, it is part of the police academy training, which he had in 2008; as for the charge from 2005 that several people have brought up, if was serious then he would have not qualified for the police training. He had every right to have a gun, train for a gun, and use the gun if he felt threatened.

You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.

Then again, most you you guys are trying to lynch this guy based on biased, agenda driven media reports and edited 911 calls.

One more thing.. if you are going to act gangster/thug, dress gangster/thug, and put off that you are big and bad.. then don't be surprised that people are going to treat you that way!

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9658314


Well, for the record, my own references to white-trash rednecks had to do with the dumbass whose video was posted earlier.

But walk a mile in Trayvon's shoes for a minute. Imagine walking home from the store with your Arizona Ice Tea in hand, when you happen to notice that some guy was watching you. Then, following you...
Not fun. Not right.

And if you wound up dead because this guy shot you, don't you think that your family would demand an arrest?

And if it turned out that the police had not done a *complete* investigation for any reason, wouldn't you expect that your family would go to the media in order to get support -- in order to make certain that a thorough investigation, completely above board, is accomplished?

Take all racial inferences out of this situation. Try not to view it emotionally. Just imagine yourself in those same circumstances. Imagine how your family would react to your sudden death.

I walk around my neighborhood when I want to. I don't expect to be watched by someone carrying a gun. I certainly don't expect to be followed. And if that did happen, I would confront the SOB -- or maybe just try to get away. I don't know. But damn it. This is supposed to be a free country where people can walk back from the neighborhood store with their can of Arizona Ice Tea in hand and expect to get home without being shot.

This is wrong. This is fishy. This is stupid. This is intollerable.

I want an investigation. I want justice for this family. I want the police and all wannabe police to be on notice that you just don't get to shoot people for walking home from the store and expect to get away with it.

But this is not about race.
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"Lurker", your posts are so heavy with race hate, they are tipping the GLP scales.

You don't want the truth. You don't want justice.

You want fantasy. You want what you've predetermined has happened BECAUSE Treyvon was BLACK.

That's all you want, and everyone here has become acutely aware of you, and a small group of other posters, that do nothing constructive in finding truth, but simply denigrate people who are not black.
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Sorry but I highly doubt Trayvon called 911, The media is so desperate to paint the teen thug as a good little angel. They would have mentioned this a long time ago.
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You can not go through the police academy if you are guilty of assaulting a cop.. duh! I know this because a relative is a cop, and it is common sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9658314


Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


Again, had he been guilty of either he COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO THE ACADEMY, especially with domestic violence. Look it up.

You also do not know the circumstances surrounding the cop incident, especially in that part of Florida. If the cop chooses, any touch of any sort on a cop is an automatic charge, regardless of the intent.

Until the States Attorney takes it in front of the Grand Jury (which he has to have the evidence) all of these accusations, assumptions, and flat out Zimmerman-hate, without knowing all the facts, is sick.

This is still America, whether we recognize it or not, and he has the right of a trial and to be innocent until proven guilty. Oh, and don't go jumping on the "oh that poor boy had rights too," crap.. He could have simply answered the simple question.. no harm in that.

peace
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I do not know the circumstances behind his arrest in 2005, but he did plead guilty and entered into a pretrial intervention program to escape prosecution.

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No they don't. There is a eyewitness who seen Zimmerman calling for help, and has been there since the very night of the shooting. Just because he doesn't want to parade around for CNN and FOX you cannot dispute what he says. Those 2 ladies "heard" a fight and "thought" it was Trayvon who was screaming. Did you listen to the tape? Wouldn't matter, you don't know either. Thank You, this verdict brought to you by CNN
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In other words, you know of a witness that the police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off? The two witnesses was certain of their testimony, and didn't simply 'thought' of it. Thank you. This verdict was brought to you by ignorance and made up stories.
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That witness made the statement the night of the shooting. All those agencies that you listed know about him. The media chooses to ignore him. Those 2 ladies didn't see anything, they admit that and the 911 tapes back that up. They have only said they were certain that Trayvon was screaming. How can you be certain when you didnt actually see anything. The unedited tapes are avaliable at the Sanford Police Dept. Go listen to the unedited tapes and admit your decision was made by CNN.
 Quoting: whitemike761


If the media ignored your witness, the PD could've made the statement to that effect right. They could've provided the information to Trayvon's mother and lawyer and ended the story right? But they didn't, and here you are trying to convince everyone of the existence of this imaginary witness based on a phone call to a small radio station

As for the two witnesses, you realize right that you have changed your comment about them in three consecutive posts?

Please, stick to the facts. Your interpretation of events and made up stories will not convince anyone.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


The link to the tapes is on this very page. They didn't see anything! Listen to Zimmermans unedited tape. Listen to all 8 of them. You are wrong and we will see if you can admit that. Those tapes are a eye opener. Or you could go back to CNN and watch the Jackson Rally
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I apologize that I miss understood the "white-trash" comment, but the rest of your post is non-sense. How do you know I am viewing this emotionally, or with race issues in mind.

I have been through something like this; and what the cops did was pretty much standard if all the evidence is there.

Your logic is faulty, if someone lives or visits a gated community, then of course there is going to be some sort of neighborhood watch or security; Zimmerman was captain of the neighborhood watch and did what I hope others would do, especially since there were a string of unsolved break ins.

Get off the justice train, if there was a 911 from the kid, it would be in the report.

He is not the innocent little boy you are being spoon fed that he was. He was a troubled, weed dealing (assuming from facebook references), thug wanna be.. and guess what, if you act, look, and try to be a thug, then people are going to treat you and watch you like one.

And yes, that will lead to questions when you are not recognized in a "GATED" "NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH" patrolled neighbor hood.


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You didn't misunderstand "Lurker". He IS FULL OF HATE and is one of the biggest RACISTS on this board.

Don't let his backpedaling now confuse you.

HE really is that much of a HATER.
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Sorry but I highly doubt Trayvon called 911, The media is so desperate to paint the teen thug as a good little angel. They would have mentioned this a long time ago.
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:Joker_Clap:
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And if they do know, they are hideing something. Good or bad
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Really when you look at it, he should have just stayed in his car. He says the kid was staring at him and then coming to check him out, but he was staring at him as well. Why would anyone about to to do something illegal come closer to be identified. If I was up to no good and someone spotted me, I would have taken off running from the start.
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That's because you're not a criminal. Unfortunately, crime stats are full of bystanders injured or even killed by criminals either unhappy at what they perceive to be interference or elated at the opportunity to stomp a witness.
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" 7pm to 930 pm, maybe 10, who breaks in somewhere around those times."


News flash!! People commit robberies, break-ins, and murders in broad daylight!! And get away with it!!

My mom had her house completely cleaned out.. they even took the curtain rods and shower curtain.. IN DAY LIGHT!

My front and rear bumpers were stolen in a church parking lot.. IN DAYLIGHT!

In fact, when I filed a report the cops that came actually witnessed it, and said they assumed it was their car. If they had stopped and asked " hey, whats with the bumpers," then I would have still had my bumpers.

Your logic about the time is off..
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Really when you look at it, he should have just stayed in his car. He says the kid was staring at him and then coming to check him out, but he was staring at him as well. Why would anyone about to to do something illegal come closer to be identified. If I was up to no good and someone spotted me, I would have taken off running from the start.
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That's because you're not a criminal. Unfortunately, crime stats are full of bystanders injured or even killed by criminals either unhappy at what they perceive to be interference or elated at the opportunity to stomp a witness.
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clappa
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And it took them this long to come out and say this happened. Sorry but now it smells kind of fishy. They would have mentioned this a long time ago if it were true.
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The whole thing is fishy. More theater for the masses.
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I never believed in this fake story conspiracy before. But If they do start all of a sudden claiming Trayvone called 911. well then It'll be proof this whole story is a lie/hoax after all. Like when one of the 911 terrorist's passport mysteriously flew out of the plane and landed safely on the ground. Untouched by the flames.
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Obamas using it for his re-election bid
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False. No one, as far as I know, saw the incident. However, at least two neighbors heard their altercation. Trayvon was crying and pleading to Zimmerman. They have made a statement to that effect.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld



liar... there is one EYEwitness to the fight/struggle just a minute or less before the gun went off.

the women that heard the screaming claimed it was from a little boy. there were no little boys.. trayvon is a 17 y/o man who is at least 6' 2" and plays football. the blonde witness has corrupted her own statements and she is useless.

both females admitted it was too dark to make out more than outlines of zimm and tray. they got most of their info from the mainstream media the following days... thats why they think trayvon was the one they heard... they still thought he was a little 11 y/o boy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


There are NO eyewitness to the incident. The police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off the witness. Fact.

The two witnesses heard the and reported the incident wayyy before the media firestorm. Stop lying please. You are merely discrediting their statement because you don't like it.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld



Listen to 911 #4 at the link I provided a couple of posts up. The woman, on the actual 911 call, says she is seeing a man in a white shirt on top of another man hitting him. Zimmerman was wearing a red shirt that night, Trevon a light grey hoodie. Which do you think would appear like a white shirt in the dark.


Please educate yourself before you sound like a mindless imbecile. Quit parroting the MSM bullshit.

IT WILL BE SHOWN (it's already been determined by the Sanford police, but it will be re-verified by the other agencies now that they're involved) that the shot trajectory angle indicates that Treyvon was shot from an angle consistent with him being on top of Zimmerman.
 Quoting: Nemamiah


You mean this link? [link to www.sanfordfl.gov]

Do you have a problem with listening/comprehension? She called AFTER the shot. AFTER. She also admitted she DID NOT see it. She took a peek several minutes later, and mentioned the white shirt. Get it?

Please develop your listening skill before engaging people online. Quit pandering to your bigotry and look at the facts. A kid died and the police is involved in a coverup.

Goodness.
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Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


his assault came from a friends encounter with police.. zimmerman put a hand on one of the cops, nothing more.
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How do you plead guilty to escape prosecution?
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Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


his assault came from a friends encounter with police.. zimmerman put a hand on one of the cops, nothing more.
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How do you plead guilty to escape prosecution?
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I have no knowledge of the details behind his 2005 arrest, and I would like to know where you got yours.

As for escaping prosecution, the pretrial intervention offers first-time offenders the chance to participate in a diversionary program. Participants’ records are cleared if they complete the program, which involves counseling, community service and restitution.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


I know what PRE trial is. As in before a trial. You do not plead guilty before a trail or there wouldn't be a need for a trial. Those charges were dismissed. Big difference from a guilty plea.
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He is not the innocent little boy you are being spoon fed that he was. He was a troubled, weed dealing (assuming from facebook references), thug wanna be.. and guess what, if you act, look, and try to be a thug, then people are going to treat you and watch you like one.

And yes, that will lead to questions when you are not recognized in a "GATED" "NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH" patrolled neighbor hood.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9658314

Martin was suspended from school for a non-violent offense. Maybe it was related to drug use (and theft to feed the habit). It's possible that Zimmerman saw Martin casing out the homes in the complex and got suspicious.
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False. No one, as far as I know, saw the incident. However, at least two neighbors heard their altercation. Trayvon was crying and pleading to Zimmerman. They have made a statement to that effect.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld



liar... there is one EYEwitness to the fight/struggle just a minute or less before the gun went off.

the women that heard the screaming claimed it was from a little boy. there were no little boys.. trayvon is a 17 y/o man who is at least 6' 2" and plays football. the blonde witness has corrupted her own statements and she is useless.

both females admitted it was too dark to make out more than outlines of zimm and tray. they got most of their info from the mainstream media the following days... thats why they think trayvon was the one they heard... they still thought he was a little 11 y/o boy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


There are NO eyewitness to the incident. The police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off the witness. Fact.

The two witnesses heard the and reported the incident wayyy before the media firestorm. Stop lying please. You are merely discrediting their statement because you don't like it.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


the two women were questioned and then tossed aside because they added nothing to the investigation. the blonde got mad and started whining to the media.

there was an eyewitness to the actual fight where zimmerman lay back down on the ground while trayvon was beating him. have you not seen the video? or are you just a filthy liar? i lean to the latter.
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Where is this imaginary eyewitness? Where? Why has no one apart from a small time radio station have heard of him? Why are you ignoring all the facts and keep on repeating a dubious made up story? Please, please. Prove me wrong. Reveal to me this eye-witness that no one knows of. Otherwise, man up and apologize like a real man.
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Zimmerman did assault a police office in 2005. He pleaded guilty in exchange for a pretrial intervention and escaped prosecution.

Several months later, his girlfriend accused him of domestic violence and filed a court injunction against him.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


Again, had he been guilty of either he COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO THE ACADEMY, especially with domestic violence. Look it up.

You also do not know the circumstances surrounding the cop incident, especially in that part of Florida. If the cop chooses, any touch of any sort on a cop is an automatic charge, regardless of the intent.

Until the States Attorney takes it in front of the Grand Jury (which he has to have the evidence) all of these accusations, assumptions, and flat out Zimmerman-hate, without knowing all the facts, is sick.

This is still America, whether we recognize it or not, and he has the right of a trial and to be innocent until proven guilty. Oh, and don't go jumping on the "oh that poor boy had rights too," crap.. He could have simply answered the simple question.. no harm in that.

peace
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I do not know the circumstances behind his arrest in 2005, but he did plead guilty and entered into a pretrial intervention program to escape prosecution.

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In other words, you know of a witness that the police, FBI, and the state attorney has no record off? The two witnesses was certain of their testimony, and didn't simply 'thought' of it. Thank you. This verdict was brought to you by ignorance and made up stories.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


That witness made the statement the night of the shooting. All those agencies that you listed know about him. The media chooses to ignore him. Those 2 ladies didn't see anything, they admit that and the 911 tapes back that up. They have only said they were certain that Trayvon was screaming. How can you be certain when you didnt actually see anything. The unedited tapes are avaliable at the Sanford Police Dept. Go listen to the unedited tapes and admit your decision was made by CNN.
 Quoting: whitemike761


If the media ignored your witness, the PD could've made the statement to that effect right. They could've provided the information to Trayvon's mother and lawyer and ended the story right? But they didn't, and here you are trying to convince everyone of the existence of this imaginary witness based on a phone call to a small radio station

As for the two witnesses, you realize right that you have changed your comment about them in three consecutive posts?

Please, stick to the facts. Your interpretation of events and made up stories will not convince anyone.
 Quoting: BootsAroundTheWorld


The link to the tapes is on this very page. They didn't see anything! Listen to Zimmermans unedited tape. Listen to all 8 of them. You are wrong and we will see if you can admit that. Those tapes are a eye opener. Or you could go back to CNN and watch the Jackson Rally
 Quoting: whitemike761


Yes, they didn't see anything!!!! I have listened to the tapes before I started writing on this thread. Unlike some people, I take the time to know the facts before commenting on something.
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