Trayvon Martin called 911 himself before the shooting! Juicy

a link about that was posted on the first page of this thread and I just posted a video on this page about the 'imaginary' eyewitness.

Zimmerman is not protected under the law, he should have been arrested.

Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)

It was not Zimmerman's job to pursue. He had no authority whatsoever to pursue. The police had been called. His duty as a "watchman" was done.
But Zimmerman, as abundantly evident by his 911 call, had already made his judgment. And it *seems* that he was hell-bent on not only being the judge, but also the executioner in this case. But I'll wait for the court to decide that before I believe that as fact. IF it gets to court, that is.

Your video is not proof. The Sanford PD, the State attorney, the FBI, the victim's family all has no record of any eyewitness. None.

It was not Zimmerman's job to pursue. He had no authority whatsoever to pursue. The police had been called. His duty as a "watchman" was done.
But Zimmerman, as abundantly evident by his 911 call, had already made his judgment. And it *seems* that he was hell-bent on not only being the judge, but also the executioner in this case. But I'll wait for the court to decide that before I believe that as fact. IF it gets to court, that is.

Your video is not proof. The Sanford PD, the State attorney, the FBI, the victim's family all has no record of any eyewitness. None.

it was made the day after the incident and someone has already provided the link about it on the first page. What I find hard to believe is that no-one has brought it to your attention (e.g. provided 'proof' see last post on first page) 7 pages into the thread.

You really should actually watch the video

Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)

JUST PLAIN WRONG.

YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT EVIDENCE THEY HAVE.

THE REST OF US HAVE SEEN AND HEARD ALL WE NEED TO AT THIS POINT.

WE WILL WATCH AS THE OTHER ITEMS COME OUT AND AS THEY SERVE TO REINFORCE THE EXISTING FACTS AND TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT OF ZIMMERMAN.

JUST WAIT UNTIL THE TOX SCREEN ON MARTIN IS RELEASED. WOW! WHAT AN EYE OPENER THAT WILL BE!

Excellent post!

It was not Zimmerman's job to pursue. He had no authority whatsoever to pursue. The police had been called. His duty as a "watchman" was done.
But Zimmerman, as abundantly evident by his 911 call, had already made his judgment. And it *seems* that he was hell-bent on not only being the judge, but also the executioner in this case. But I'll wait for the court to decide that before I believe that as fact. IF it gets to court, that is.

Many of you don't understand how legal matters work. Zimmerman is guilty on more than one count no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if it was infact Zimmerman who was screaming..he is still guilty.. Let me break it down for you....

1. A person cannot call the police over 46 times within a short period and not face a punishment unless said person is a police officer(law enforcement, agent, government respresentive and the like)

2. One cannot batter an officer(face no time, and then purchase a deadly weapon) without some shady undertakings

3. A neighborhood watchmen cannot carry a gun while on duty

4. It is not legal to follow, stalk, and chase anyone(Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon around unprovoked in a car and then on foot)

5. Once a person ignores a 911 dispatcher, they stand fully accountable for all actions that happens after said event

6. One can not use the stand your ground law or self-defense law after following, stalking, or chasing someone. (Zimmerman lost any self-defense claim when he said , 'Yes', he was following the teenager.

Zimmerman is guily of first degree or second degree murder based on these situations.

A victim(person has the right to either use their flight or fight options when a REAL threat is encounter)

1. Trayvon first used the flight method (on Zimmerman's on 911 tapes he indicates that he was following said teenager around in a car (with a loaded gun) and that said teenager started to run and he got out to chase

2. Teenagers have no legal obligation to talk to strangers who are not law enforcement(in fact it is taught they should run, or resent while screaming loudly)

3. Said teenager had multiple grounds in which he could legally use to jestify attacking Zimmerman.

A. If Zimmerson was beaten to death by this kid, then Trayon still would have been within his rights, as he was followed, stalked, and chased with a deadly weapon.

B. If they got into a fight and and no one died, Zimmerman would be guilty but of a bunch of lesser chargers.

C. If Zimmerson followed, and stalked, this teenager around and killed him while he had the upper-hand in this fight it is 1st degree murder.

D. If Zimmerson was losing said fight(and had a MAJOR LIFE THREATENING INJURY WHILE SAID PERSON used their fight to flight and then fight, he is still guilty of 2nd degree murder no less)

Can you please stop trolling? You do not agree with me, so you attempted to paint me as a Malaysian extremist, without for a moment considering that there are millions of Americans living and working all over the the world. Instead of just backing off, you just go on and on with this nonsense. So, please, stop it.

I'm thinking this whole thing got twisted out of content and truth because Zimmerman used a racial slur when he called the Non-emergency number to report Martin as a suspicious person and he was following him.
Zimmerman was told not to follow by the dispatcher.
From what we can gleen from the information we are given is...the 911 call with the "screams" on it was from the witness and not from Zimmerman or Martin.
It seems Martin may well have jumped Zimmerman from behind s he was headed back to his car.
Zimmerman does have injuries and other forensic evidence to show he was at least in some sort of fight.
Now the key evidence that will show if this is self defense, murder or manslaughter will be the ballistic results.
If Martin has little or no gun powder residue on him that would suggest he was shot from a few feet away.
If there is a lot of residue and the pattern is is tight that would show he was shot right up close and more or less back up Zimmerman's claim.

None of it was his "job". He was there to ensure that whomever had perpetrated the recent rash of burglaries and home invasions was caught, so that they did not extend their unwanted attentions to his home. The police had repeatedly failed to capture the perp. He pursued because he wanted to point the suspect out to the cops. The cops took 6 minutes to arrive. In that 6 minutes, the suspect could be miles away.

Damn straight, it wasn't his job.
His intention of protecting the neighborhood in any legal, appropriate, and sensible way was accomplished when he called the police.
To pursue Martin was, in effect, stalking a private citizen who was well within his rights to walk home from the store.

What I find hard to believe is that no one from the Sanford PD, the State attorney, the FBI, the victim's family all has a record of any eyewitness. You really should look at the facts.