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The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano

 
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Take a look at Rev. 14:10,11 about the fate of those that take the mark: "their TORMENT with fire and brimstone...and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever; and THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT..." Pretty Clear. Pretty comprehensive to any truth seeker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


It also says they'll be in the presence of the Lamb - obviously, our humble Jesus has reserved for Himself a ringside seat to view the carnage up close, yes? Or could there be something else to it hat isn't *quite* so pyromaniacal?

As a truth seeker, you might consider looking beyond the leavened English translation into what he original Hebrew & Greek actually says instead of swallowing whole what hired "scholars" put in God's mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Apparently, you've not looked at "the whole" of the subject of hell. Truly, how many verses on the subject - how many discourses on the subject - does one need?

It's onverwhelming. It's only pride that tries to judge God. Don't fall for it. We're talking souls.

Praise God
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The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his
kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 13:41-42)

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not
the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power (2 Thess. 1:8-9)

Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things. (Prov. 28:5)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:31)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


No..what REALLY fearful..is to walk int a room full of people who claim to serve the author of love itself..and being that states it IS actually LOVE...and be told by these people that this same being is the most satanically, sadistic, unforgiving, merciless, mass genocidal torturer who ever lived and..EVEN though this being..who is LOVE personified SAID about ITSELF that LOVE NEVER FAILS..this same being CANT SAVE 95% of the creatures it ON PURPOSE planned and brought into being KNOWING it could NOT save them...THUS FAILING.

BUT WAIT..God CANT fail OR make mistakes..so..this same being who IS LOVE which CANNOT FAIL..must have PLANNED the eternal TORTURE of 95% of its created creatures RIGHT FROM THE START..which means it is TRULY A SADISTIC PEICE OF *&^$%...and thus..CANT be LOVE..and if GOD IS NOT LOVE..even though he said HE IS love..then he is a LIAR..and we all know GOD JUST CANNOT LIE OR FAIL.

Which begs the question..

WHO DOES LIE AND FAIL A LOT?

With the obvious answer in mind..

ask yourself...

WHO INVENTED THE ETERNAL TORTURE HELL DOCTRINE where EVERBODY BURNS in UNENDING MERCILESS SATANIC MISERY?

Answer that...HONESTLY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18240503


Yes there are answers to these questions.

But wait - before we go any further, we have to (not reach conclusions based upon our limited, indeeed very limited mind, on what WE THINK is right; on what WE THINK is a loving God; and on what WE THINK is justice). We can't get anywhere (when our starting point) is our own personal reference of what "we think a good/righteous/loving God" should do and be)

Therefore we have to first begin with answering the most basic question of all "religions/beliefs", namely, "Is there a "correct/truthful" one to begin with? Is there a real God? Or are all roads leading to him or it...or do none of them lead to him and we're all kidding ourselves?

Unless one gets this right, how can one assume that the "holy book" representing that god is also correct? You can't.

And wow! Yes there is one way of telling (if there's a God and Who He is and what holy book speaks from His mouth).

The prophet Isaiah tells all of humanity that there's one way to answer both, even all three questions. It's in "DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING"

There's only one holy book that does this: that lists hundreds of prophecies (telling the fulfillment of something before it happens). This is how (humans) are to know.

Despite all of the other soothsayers and all other "beliefs"...there's only this collection of books in the bible that stands alone. This is God's fingerprint...even though there's not perfection, when (perfection) is translated in various languages. (Remember, the promise of perfection was only when, "holy men of God wrote/spake when moved by the Holy Spirit." - not in copied manuscripts and "unending translations in subsequent centuries.)

So this is the starting point on any subject, including hell.

You have to first be convinced that truth does exist, and it exists (by virtue of prophecy after prophecy being fulfilled...defying statistical probability.)

Statistical probability says that anything with less than (appr. one chance in 10 to -75 power) is a statistical impossibility...it's the rough equivalent of less than one chance in infinity.

It doesn't take but more than a few dozens filfilled prophecies, for the conclusion to easily exceed this number: whereby there's no human possiblity that these events came to pass by chance...but rather, had supernatural influence.

So, until you're submitted to the truth of God (and Who He is), subjects like hell, and just about anything else, will be rejected - if it doesn't line up with (the mockers') limited understanding of reality.

Start here in truth.

Praise God
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Take a look at Rev. 14:10,11 about the fate of those that take the mark: "their TORMENT with fire and brimstone...and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever; and THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT..." Pretty Clear. Pretty comprehensive to any truth seeker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


It also says they'll be in the presence of the Lamb - obviously, our humble Jesus has reserved for Himself a ringside seat to view the carnage up close, yes? Or could there be something else to it hat isn't *quite* so pyromaniacal?

As a truth seeker, you might consider looking beyond the leavened English translation into what he original Hebrew & Greek actually says instead of swallowing whole what hired "scholars" put in God's mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Apparently, you've not looked at "the whole" of the subject of hell. Truly, how many verses on the subject - how many discourses on the subject - does one need?

It's onverwhelming. It's only pride that tries to judge God. Don't fall for it. We're talking souls.

Praise God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


Ironically this subject is what I've studied the *most* for the past 5 years, after believing in it for 20 years like any good pew-polishing clone.

If you don't believe that Jesus saves lost obstinate blind people, just say so. We're all friends here.
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Let's look at something:

The 1st chapter of Hebrews calls Christ the "express image" (in Greek, charakter) of God.

Christ Himself said "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father."

If we examine the actions, words and demeanor displayed by Christ in the gospels, do we see anything there that might indicate that He's concerned about people plunging into an abyss of unending misery, or that He would allow such a thing to happen?

He spoke with a woman taken in the act of adultery, and said not one word about hell, judgment, or even repentance. He actually seemed focused on revealing the hearts of her blood-thirsty accusers. He told her "I don't condemn you; go and sin no more."

He met a woman at a well who was apparently living with a man she was not married to, and it comes out that she had been shacked up with men several times before. He didn't issue one peep about her eternal fate, or the consequences of her sins. And as they spoke, the conversation eventually touched on the nature of worship. Why would He engage in such a topic, if this chick was a mere heartbeat away from hellfire? Why didn't He warn her? Today's christians certainly would have - we'd be climbing on her face about the destiny of her eternal soul, wouldn't we?

There was a rich man who came to Jesus asking him what he needs to do to acquire eternal life. Jesus told him to sell all his possessions and give the funds to the poor. The man went away sad, because he owned so much he would have to part with. Did Jesus go after him? Read him the riot act about his idolatry? Confront him with the severity of his afterlife? No, He graciously allowed the guy to go on his way and consider his plight on his own terms instead of putting him on the spot in front of an audience.

Furthermore, Hebrews 1 also says that Christ is the heir of "all [things]" (Greek pas, meaning "all"), and He states in Matthew 11 that "All [things] are delivered unto me of my Father". What is our Shepherd likely to do with "all"? Leave us to the consequences of our defective, blinded freewill? Or perhaps seek and save even the last lone straggler? In John 6, he says that He'll lose *nothing* of what He was given. If He was given all, and will lose nothing of that all, it sounds like "all" is in good hands, yes?

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Consideration of this kind of info, along with the realization that English terms such as "hell" and "forever" are mistranslations of the original Greek, should start to dispel the errors of Egypt's twisted doctrine like a bad dream.
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He spoke with a woman taken in the act of adultery, and said not one word about hell, judgment, or even repentance.
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Oh, friend, yes he did.

He said, "Go and sin no more."

What does that mean?

It means to utterly repent: sin no more...in other words, "change the way you think" so you don't sin anymore.

Why did he want her to repent?

Becasue Jesus said, "unless ye repent, ye will likewise perish."

Praise God
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In Jeremiah, God is addressing his people's sins. He mentions in three places (chapters 7, 19 & 32) their practice of burning their children, a ritual they adopted from the pagans. Of this horrible act, He says such a thing never entered His mind.
"You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods."
How could He say this if in fact hell were real and people end up there every day? Perhaps God is lying to Jeremiah? Maybe Deuteronomy 12:31 is a lie, too? It states that burning people is an *abomination* to God.
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Take a look at Rev. 14:10,11 about the fate of those that take the mark: "their TORMENT with fire and brimstone...and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever; and THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT..." Pretty Clear. Pretty comprehensive to any truth seeker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


It also says they'll be in the presence of the Lamb - obviously, our humble Jesus has reserved for Himself a ringside seat to view the carnage up close, yes? Or could there be something else to it hat isn't *quite* so pyromaniacal?

As a truth seeker, you might consider looking beyond the leavened English translation into what he original Hebrew & Greek actually says instead of swallowing whole what hired "scholars" put in God's mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Apparently, you've not looked at "the whole" of the subject of hell. Truly, how many verses on the subject - how many discourses on the subject - does one need?

It's onverwhelming. It's only pride that tries to judge God. Don't fall for it. We're talking souls.

Praise God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


Ironically this subject is what I've studied the *most* for the past 5 years, after believing in it for 20 years like any good pew-polishing clone.

If you don't believe that Jesus saves lost obstinate blind people, just say so. We're all friends here.
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Yes I certainly do believe that.

Please accept my appologies if I've (gone over the line you have on that).

All the best. Blessings to you.

Prasie God
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He spoke with a woman taken in the act of adultery, and said not one word about hell, judgment, or even repentance.
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Oh, friend, yes he did.

He said, "Go and sin no more."

What does that mean?

It means to utterly repent: sin no more...in other words, "change the way you think" so you don't sin anymore.

Why did he want her to repent?

Becasue Jesus said, "unless ye repent, ye will likewise perish."

Praise God
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Wow - I see it now. . .hell is real, even tough He didn't bother telling her that she might go there!

gasp
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In Jeremiah, God is addressing his people's sins. He mentions in three places (chapters 7, 19 & 32) their practice of burning their children, a ritual they adopted from the pagans. Of this horrible act, He says such a thing never entered His mind.
"You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods."
How could He say this if in fact hell were real and people end up there every day? Perhaps God is lying to Jeremiah? Maybe Deuteronomy 12:31 is a lie, too? It states that burning people is an *abomination* to God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


I'm sorry, I'm not following your line of thought.

(I just look briefly at it though.)

Praise God
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He spoke with a woman taken in the act of adultery, and said not one word about hell, judgment, or even repentance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Oh, friend, yes he did.

He said, "Go and sin no more."

What does that mean?

It means to utterly repent: sin no more...in other words, "change the way you think" so you don't sin anymore.

Why did he want her to repent?

Becasue Jesus said, "unless ye repent, ye will likewise perish."

Praise God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


Wow - I see it now. . .hell is real, even tough He didn't bother telling her that she might go there!

gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Perhaps it's not clear enough:

He just got done literally saving this woman's life...from people that were ready to literally stone her to death.

He then told her the truth of her sin (of what He just saved her from - this horrible physical death).

Do you think she won't listen to Him and believe (and therefore, repent) that this is the absolute truth spoken to her, and thereby be saved from an eternal hell?

Yes, I believe she absolutlely believed him.

Praise God
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Do they showed a Video from the Days he
was still alive?

That was pure Hell!
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Sure was! Now that he's dead and buried, lets forget!
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I have to go for now.

Blessings.

Praise God
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his
kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 13:41-42)

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not
the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power (2 Thess. 1:8-9)

Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things. (Prov. 28:5)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:31)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


No..what REALLY fearful..is to walk int a room full of people who claim to serve the author of love itself..and being that states it IS actually LOVE...and be told by these people that this same being is the most satanically, sadistic, unforgiving, merciless, mass genocidal torturer who ever lived and..EVEN though this being..who is LOVE personified SAID about ITSELF that LOVE NEVER FAILS..this same being CANT SAVE 95% of the creatures it ON PURPOSE planned and brought into being KNOWING it could NOT save them...THUS FAILING.

BUT WAIT..God CANT fail OR make mistakes..so..this same being who IS LOVE which CANNOT FAIL..must have PLANNED the eternal TORTURE of 95% of its created creatures RIGHT FROM THE START..which means it is TRULY A SADISTIC PEICE OF *&^$%...and thus..CANT be LOVE..and if GOD IS NOT LOVE..even though he said HE IS love..then he is a LIAR..and we all know GOD JUST CANNOT LIE OR FAIL.

Which begs the question..

WHO DOES LIE AND FAIL A LOT?

With the obvious answer in mind..

ask yourself...

WHO INVENTED THE ETERNAL TORTURE HELL DOCTRINE where EVERBODY BURNS in UNENDING MERCILESS SATANIC MISERY?

Answer that...HONESTLY.
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Yes there are answers to these questions.


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Then where are they?

All you have done is agree that God IS a sadistic torturing merciless tyrant who PLANNED IN ADVANCE the mass torture of MOST of his creatures.

So instead of trying to avoid the issue which you have..why dont you come up aith a clear and logical explaination that makes sense and KEEPS with the charater of God to try to explain WHY he PLANNED the eternal torture of TRILLIONS.
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The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his
kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 13:41-42)

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not
the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power (2 Thess. 1:8-9)

Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things. (Prov. 28:5)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:31)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


No..what REALLY fearful..is to walk int a room full of people who claim to serve the author of love itself..and being that states it IS actually LOVE...and be told by these people that this same being is the most satanically, sadistic, unforgiving, merciless, mass genocidal torturer who ever lived and..EVEN though this being..who is LOVE personified SAID about ITSELF that LOVE NEVER FAILS..this same being CANT SAVE 95% of the creatures it ON PURPOSE planned and brought into being KNOWING it could NOT save them...THUS FAILING.

BUT WAIT..God CANT fail OR make mistakes..so..this same being who IS LOVE which CANNOT FAIL..must have PLANNED the eternal TORTURE of 95% of its created creatures RIGHT FROM THE START..which means it is TRULY A SADISTIC PEICE OF *&^$%...and thus..CANT be LOVE..and if GOD IS NOT LOVE..even though he said HE IS love..then he is a LIAR..and we all know GOD JUST CANNOT LIE OR FAIL.

Which begs the question..

WHO DOES LIE AND FAIL A LOT?

With the obvious answer in mind..

ask yourself...

WHO INVENTED THE ETERNAL TORTURE HELL DOCTRINE where EVERBODY BURNS in UNENDING MERCILESS SATANIC MISERY?

Answer that...HONESTLY.
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Yes there are answers to these questions.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


Then where are they?

All you have done is agree that God IS a sadistic torturing merciless tyrant who PLANNED IN ADVANCE the mass torture of MOST of his creatures.

So instead of trying to avoid the issue which you have..why dont you come up aith a clear and logical explaination that makes sense and KEEPS with the charater of God to try to explain WHY he PLANNED the eternal torture of TRILLIONS.
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The answer was explained in the rest of my post, after, "Yes there are answers to these questions".

Kindly go back and reread - since without that, there will never be ground common on truthseeking.

Praise God
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Stop insulting the lady. She said she saw all of this and is just doing what she was instructed by God to do i.e warn the living of the reality of Heaven and Hell. You who are insulting her and rendering these revelations garbage, how sure are u that she is fake? Just be careful, try hard to live lives pleasing to God and REPENT of your sins!!! You'll have forever to suffer if you die a sinner and realise that all she said were true. On the hand if you die, a repented Christian and you end up nowhere, no heaven, no hell, what have you got to lose anyway? I believe in the reality of Heaven and Hell and whether I will be judged immediately after I die or on a particular day set aside by God to judge all men, all I care about is that I must repent of my many sins and live a life pleasing to God everyday because one day, I will die and what follows... we'll see...
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HELL is REAL..and here is PROOF..

God is omnipotent..all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..NO rehab..and NO WAY OUT..a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever. He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..to save us from HIMSELF really..after all..HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..PLUS..he created every torture device there..HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..and all those there DESERVE it..for being born HUMAN..in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..sorry..but you have to BURN.

Also..if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..YOU WILL BURN as well..for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..wrong parents..and wrong religion..even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..cause if he did NOT choose..and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Stop insulting the lady. She said she saw all of this and is just doing what she was instructed by God to do i.e warn the living of the reality of Heaven and Hell. You who are insulting her and rendering these revelations garbage, how sure are u that she is fake? Just be careful, try hard to live lives pleasing to God and REPENT of your sins!!! You'll have forever to suffer if you die a sinner and realise that all she said were true. On the hand if you die, a repented Christian and you end up nowhere, no heaven, no hell, what have you got to lose anyway? I believe in the reality of Heaven and Hell and whether I will be judged immediately after I die or on a particular day set aside by God to judge all men, all I care about is that I must repent of my many sins and live a life pleasing to God everyday because one day, I will die and what follows... we'll see...
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Notice the girl's Mom in the video interview, begins crying as she recounts the experience, of when her daughter was laying on the ground, and out of her body.

Due to this, her testimony certainly seems genuine. In addition, to let us know something supernatural was occurring during this, the Mother stated, she tried touching her body, but was unable to, and it felt like a shield was around her.

The girl, stated, I believe as she was leaving her body, a shield had surrounded her body.

So the tearful Mom's account, further affirms, the daughter's account.
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Satan is real. I'm constantly attacked spiritually... I've had OOB experiences that confirmed this when I didn't believe. UNBELIEVERS please give God a chance. In your hearts you know he is real. Don't let some desire to sin keep you from reaching out to him, and don't be deceived. None of us can escape sin, except through accepting Jesus Christ and spreading His message. LOVE and GOD BLESS!
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Only false Christians believe in a burning hell where people are tortured forever. That is not a biblical teaching. If you think it is, you need to read your bible again.


Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

New International Version (NIV)

5 For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;

they have no further reward,
and even their name is forgotten.
6 Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun.

Hades gets thrown into the lake of fire.
Rev 20:
4 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Lake of fire or Gehenna is symbolic not literal. Fail, christian, fail.
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it's unbelievable how screwed up so many religious people are, spouting their own perverted notions of torture like they're enjoying it. Just as well it's all a steaming load of shit.
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it's unbelievable how screwed up so many religious people are, spouting their own perverted notions of torture like they're enjoying it. Just as well it's all a steaming load of shit.
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Whatever....
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there is no hell,learn to think for your self.
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christian nuts on the loose again ?
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NO. Just the Obot Propagandists hitting GLP again in an attempt to make Christians look bad.

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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
Only false Christians believe in a burning hell where people are tortured forever. That is not a biblical teaching. If you think it is, you need to read your bible again.


Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

New International Version (NIV)

5 For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;

they have no further reward,
and even their name is forgotten.
6 Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun.

Hades gets thrown into the lake of fire.
Rev 20:
4 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Lake of fire or Gehenna is symbolic not literal. Fail, christian, fail.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


...........THANK YOU VERY MUCH...I'm NOT 'religious' and have NO USE for organized religion, but even I knew that about 'hell'......

"Religious' people seem to pick and choose what they want to spout off to others, without doing any research, etc. as to what they are saying and what they believe in!!

so thanks again!!!!!!!
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
i beg to differ op, m,jackson was a very kind and caring person , he prolly did more to help others in one hour of his life than you could ever hope to accomplish, in your entire lifetime.
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
I keep hearing, "I believe, I believe this way" or " this is what I believe." It's not about what you believe or YOUR interpretation of the Bible. Hell is very real and it's mentioned throughout the Bible from beginning to end. If satan isn't real, then how does Jesus account of being tempted by him fare with you? Satan and hell are absolutely real. You cannot put wordly or humanistic boundaries in the spiritual realm. You burn forever and yet never die. Very possible to speak in spiritual fire. Perhaps you may not find the idea if hell appealing but for your sake and others you better hope you are correct. A lot of people don't believe God exists, does that make it true? Just because you don't believe in it doesn't make it so. The punishment for breaking Gods laws is the second death in hell where we are cut off for eternity from Gods love. Remember hell wasn't created for man, it was created for satan and HIS angels, and us where we will go along with him if we don't choose Christ and his salvation.
Peace be with you all and above all things CHOOSE LIFE! In Jesus name Amen.
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
I have a question? What IS going to happen to those who did not believe in God, worshipped the Devil, did every dirty deed and the complete opposite if what God said, broke his every law, killed millions upon millions, what is going to happen to them if there is no hell or punishment for them? Do they get to go to Heaven and sit with God? Do they get to be crowned right along with all of those that did try very hard to live a Godly life? Those that did fearfully respect our Lord and Savior, they get to be with us in Heaven? If so, then what is the point if following Gods laws and precepts if we all get in any way no matter how we live? God is simple to understand without the Greek interpretation, the resorting to translations, boasting of Biblical intelligence, and absolute non- Christian chastisement of each other. We are given the Spirit if God to discern these things. What does it matter if one man turns from his sin in fear of damnation to hell, as long as he turns to The Lord. If you are so sure in your certainty of being a a Christian and your salvation is in place then hell is no issue to you. What do you care, you are going to heaven. Forgive me for not being able to quote the exact passage but I will paraphrase it as I remember. It goes something along the lines of " just when you think you know anything about God, know that you really know nothing." Man does not know the mind of God nor can we even begin to comprehend it. Just know that he IS perfect and his WILL will be carried out. Why would Gods only Sin have to come and be a sacrifice if something extraordinarily bad wasn't at stake. It's the entire point of the Bible. Mankind had to be saved from the damnation of Hell because Adam and Eve brought us into sin. God cannot be apart if sin, that's why it is so separated from him. Could you imagine if the God of the universe was capable of sin? Talk about "0h, the humanity!" Hell is absolutely real. Believe it or not.
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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
it's unbelievable how screwed up so many religious people are, spouting their own perverted notions of torture like they're enjoying it. Just as well it's all a steaming load of xxxx.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13057357


lazyskate What makes you thing that we enjoy it. The fact is that we Christians deserve to be in hell very bit as much as those who are already there. The difference is that we have asked the Lord to forgive us and He has. He will be quick to hear you too, if you will but reach out to Him while you are still blessed with a little precious time. But don't take all day about it, you could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be.

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Re: The Punishment of Michael Jackson in HELL - By Angelica Zambrano
i beg to differ op, m,jackson was a very kind and caring person , he prolly did more to help others in one hour of his life than you could ever hope to accomplish, in your entire lifetime.
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indoorx No he did not, it was quite obvious looking at short videos of his performances that he was evil through and through. Just the same as Madonna, Byaryce, Gaga and all the rest of them. Sheee the guy practically lived on a Satanic stage set.

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