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Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?

 
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Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
I've been reading Michael Newtons very interesting book called Journey of Souls, and it confirms that the reincarnation system, while difficult and requiring a vast stretch of time, is an ultimately beneficial process.

Guides are there for us at every step, and we make gradual progress toward reuniting with the source of all things.

But I also read material that tells me that the reincarnation system is an essential part of this matrix that keeps recycling us as food for non-3d beings that feed off of our emotional energy. Call them archons or reptilian or whatever, but they have supposedly got us trapped in a prison.

I wish I knew which view of reincarnation is correct.
Those that reject the idea need not reply. Why? I'm a believer in reincarnation.
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03/26/2012 01:28 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Anybody have more than an option on this question?
I'm interested in out of body info.
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03/26/2012 01:34 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
you are FORCED to reincarnate......and your memories are filtered so you make the same mistakes over and over again, always to be punished by the EVIL LORDS OF KARMA who mete out their so call ed justice unfairly always rewarding the evil archons and minnions and all the while punishing the few True Beings unjustly.

Thw whole system is evil,created by exil and serving evil.

It is all about draining you of precious energy to feed the entity .Think The Matrix and you will have a fair take on the True Gnosic nous.
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03/26/2012 01:36 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
GLP, you are too preoccupied with unimportant things.
This question spans the expanse of your many lives.

Who wins the next election is tiny in comparison.

Goodnight.
Peace to you all.
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03/26/2012 01:37 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
are we trapped? or are we giving opportunity, maybe the archons, and reptiles, while enslaving may also be offering mans soul a chance to pass or fail many tests..thank them..hf
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03/26/2012 01:38 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Thank you, Australian poster!
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03/26/2012 01:41 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
also if you are prepared to take responsibility for your outcome, then you would be responsible for your destiny.. ;)
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03/26/2012 01:41 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
I am you and you are me. This is reincarnation. You get it?
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03/26/2012 01:44 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
bump Many on GLP are focusing on side shows that keep them locked in a box. Nice to see you are talking about spiritual growth. More and more people are talking about glimpses of past lives.

Peace
Amy
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
are you talking to me? of course i get it.. lol
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03/26/2012 01:45 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Why are reptilians from another dimension when we've had crocodiles and shit since dinosaurs?
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03/26/2012 01:47 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
If it's a scam, it's an elaborate one.

Guides we recognize as beings we have interacted with over many lives, beings that we reunite with in the time between lives that we know really well, a between life spirit work,do that is complex and orderly.

A scam?
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03/26/2012 01:48 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Why are reptilians from another dimension when we've had crocodiles and shit since dinosaurs?
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well you see dimensions can consist of consciousness, they are said to be 4th dimensional, casting a shadow of the fourth into the 3D that most sheeple are tuned into.. lol

essentially they use psychology to enslave mans mind.. thats why they fear 5th dimensional and higher beings who are barely amused by it all.
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03/26/2012 01:50 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
A between life spirit work should read a between life spirit World.
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03/26/2012 01:51 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
If it's a scam, it's an elaborate one.

Guides we recognize as beings we have interacted with over many lives, beings that we reunite with in the time between lives that we know really well, a between life spirit work,do that is complex and orderly.

A scam?
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scam, lol the only scam is the one you are trying to pull in denying your spiritual truth.. just because spiritual truth may appear to be non conformist socially, and not advertised as cewl on mtv, dont think its not real.. you wil only hurt yourself.. lolabduct
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03/26/2012 01:57 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Why do you waste your time thinking about bullshit? You do realize this is the most stupid gibberish in the world right? Firstly, there is no such thing as reincarnation, Westerners desperate to disbelieve in God cherry picked it out of Hinduism and dropped the rest of the religion.

And everything you say that comes after that is just downright laughable.
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03/26/2012 02:00 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Why do you waste your time thinking about bullshit? You do realize this is the most stupid gibberish in the world right? Firstly, there is no such thing as reincarnation, Westerners desperate to disbelieve in God cherry picked it out of Hinduism and dropped the rest of the religion.

And everything you say that comes after that is just downright laughable.
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well if you are laughing, then great, someone is getting good karma.. cheer up..5a
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03/26/2012 02:01 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Why do you waste your time thinking about bullshit? You do realize this is the most stupid gibberish in the world right? Firstly, there is no such thing as reincarnation, Westerners desperate to disbelieve in God cherry picked it out of Hinduism and dropped the rest of the religion.

And everything you say that comes after that is just downright laughable.
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Yeah, says you. Big deal. how the fuck do you know what truth is?
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03/26/2012 02:06 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
if he knew the truth, he wouldnt be scared and insecure to feel the need to attack others and their beliefs.. lol
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03/26/2012 02:32 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
hmm... let's see...

first off, when/why did the personality we currently identify with as being "who we are" incarnate? how did it originate? did the personality come before this current vessel? or is it a new manifestation arising as an aetheric imprint from
the accumulation of sense data after birth?

is our current incarnation the sum of multiple previous individual selves coalesced into a new psyche? or are 'we' simply animated by an ever-transforming neutral life force with no retention of memory of past experience?

what if we can have an effect on the way our future incarnations take shape?

perhaps the impressions we hold in our consciousness dictate the direction of our experience in a procession of dimensional phases, each feeding into the other in an infinite loop?
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03/26/2012 02:50 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Why do you waste your time thinking about bullshit? You do realize this is the most stupid gibberish in the world right? Firstly, there is no such thing as reincarnation, Westerners desperate to disbelieve in God cherry picked it out of Hinduism and dropped the rest of the religion.

And everything you say that comes after that is just downright laughable.
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hmm lets see, you posted BS too my friend! on another thread

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so calm down and be nice to people
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13235156
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03/26/2012 02:29 AM

Re: What do Christians believe when it comes to psychic abilities?

great question. I have some psychic abilities and have had ever since I was little. I am very much a Christian, and cannot talk about it to Christians. Not true Christians - my own sister, though she has NPD and is a fruitcake, considers it evil too and always looks at me like I'm communing with the dead if I mention so I learned to shutup.

That isn't to say I would EVER go near a psychic because the majority are not saved and therefore would be communicating with evil spirits, however sweet and innocent they seemed. Would never do Tarot card or anything like that.

The first experience that i remember was I was riding in the car, about 13, and said "There's going to be a really bad accident at an amusement park and people are going to get killed." My mother and sister asked me what the heck I was talking about. I told them I didn't know, it just popped into my head. Couple of days later there was a big accident on a Ferris Wheel that made INTERNATIONAL headlines and changed safety standards for a particular type of Ferris Wheel.

I also had a vivid dream of 9/11 in July of 2001 which I told my mother about repeatedly and she is my only witness cuz I had no one else to share such craziness with. It's just there. What it is or why I do not know. But if I believe in Jesus Christ and the whole supernatural realm, ESP is certainly not out of my perspective.

But it is hard being Christian and talking about it. Jesus Christ is my savior and I do not communicate with evil spirits nor do they communicate with me. I pray for protection regularly however.

you see ? you are BSing in the same way :D

abduct
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03/26/2012 02:57 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
reincarnation is a myth.

Thread: the truth about reincarnation
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03/26/2012 03:22 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
If we can't escape our prison we must make our prison- live well, fight for our rights, (even if it seems neverending) fight evil, choose love and justice and sanity, it will be a struggle against the evil rulers of this world but we must live carefully if we want to deny evil its dues
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
My theory is that we are in hell and since hell is suppose to be a permanent condition then upon reincarnation you are back in hell over and over again.

Some will cleverly say but hey when the sun will die we won't come back in hell anymore!

Sorry infinite amount of hell planet are awaiting for your damn soul to enjoy.

Eternity is a very long time.
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03/26/2012 06:27 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
It is both...the only catch is that the matrix controllers have made this process much longer than it needs to be. We should be progressing much further after tens of thousands of years but since our lives are so short and we don't carry memories thru to the next life it is like walking thru mud.
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03/26/2012 07:31 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
Anybody have more than an option on this question?
I'm interested in out of body info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694452


great topic, a question I have asked myself often lately

I was raised by parents who followed the tibetan buddhist path, with all the intricate studies into the process of reincarnation, spiritual evolution etc

however, I know the roots of Tibetan Buddhism is the Bonn religion, and there is the black magic influence

I have had insights that the whole thing is a trap, an intricate elaborate trap

Zen is more straightforward, the goal being to stop time, to stop the process of thought, to join with that milisecond of pure timeless awareness right now, beyond heaven and hell, beyond thought and even intention, and in that moment find liberation from this cycle of maya

all the rest, the studies, the yogas, the tantras, the secret techniques - they are fascinating, elaborate, often deeply empowering which will reveal mystic worlds and phenomenon beyond imagination...but all ultimately a trap

to be the chita in that moment of pure being before it is formed into reality, consciousness or anything else...that is the key out of here

easier said that done of course
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03/26/2012 07:33 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
I've been reading Michael Newtons very interesting book called Journey of Souls, and it confirms that the reincarnation system, while difficult and requiring a vast stretch of time, is an ultimately beneficial process.

Guides are there for us at every step, and we make gradual progress toward reuniting with the source of all things.

But I also read material that tells me that the reincarnation system is an essential part of this matrix that keeps recycling us as food for non-3d beings that feed off of our emotional energy. Call them archons or reptilian or whatever, but they have supposedly got us trapped in a prison.

I wish I knew which view of reincarnation is correct.
Those that reject the idea need not reply. Why? I'm a believer in reincarnation.
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it doesn't have to be gradual

what is time?

all is now

how much do you want it?

don't go to the "lecture about heaven"....dissolve the wall and be out
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03/26/2012 07:38 AM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
You are born, live, love, fight, die.

Then you come back as a new battery and take your place in the matrix.

Overlords must eat, afterall.
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03/26/2012 05:36 PM
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Re: Is reincarnation the long path to spiritual growth or a scam to keep us as a food source?
More info on "reincarnation":

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