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Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED*

 
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Grove public schools

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 Quoting: Laura Bow


That is very public...where is the secret, as it says in teh title.
 Quoting: Leda123


There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I just want a reliable link, documentation, etc.
I wouldn't bring my kid to school that day unless I had a physical note, signed by the principle/vp/counselor with detailed information. Mostly because I don't trust the public school system and what they may or may not do.
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Well all you got right now is a link to evidence that a drill is happening, so at least OP is not making up complete BS about what is going on at the school. The question is, were her kids just confused as to what is happening at school tomorrow regarding them being taken away on buses without parental consent or are they actually planning on them being removed without permission under the guise of "safety".
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i live in a small town in oklahoma and if this happens here i wont have my kid goin to school that day

what im thinking is this is some kind of govt plan


to see if it works the way planned

this is a good way to

get the kids off to a location

and convince them to get a chip or something
and give them something in return
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OR SEDATE THE KIDS SO THEY WILL BE GIVEN A CHIP UNKNOWINGLY
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So what school is this??
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Grove public schools

[link to grandlakenews.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


That is very public...where is the secret, as it says in teh title.
 Quoting: Leda123


There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I have visited the site and it doesn't say they will be taken to an undisclosed site, at least there.

I have worked as a teacher for over 10 years in different schools and the nature of ALL emergency evacuations to a alternate site is not new. Students usually go to a local church or community center. Each teacher knows where to bring his/her students.

As usual here at GLP I think that the fear mongers and the OP are blowing this way out of proportion. BTW- The article says that they won't tell you WHAT school is going to be evacuated, so I think the OP daughters are getting bad intel as their teachers do not know. As a parent I find it hard to believe OP that you would resort to asking this site for information regarding the safety of your children, you should go see the Principle f2f if you are that concerned....shame on you...
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Grove public schools

[link to grandlakenews.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


That is very public...where is the secret, as it says in teh title.
 Quoting: Leda123


There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I just want a reliable link, documentation, etc.
I wouldn't bring my kid to school that day unless I had a physical note, signed by the principle/vp/counselor with detailed information. Mostly because I don't trust the public school system and what they may or may not do.
 Quoting: Leda123


I believe it is called a reverse evacation drill.

Make some phone calls to find out your civil rights.

School drills are mandatory.

Found this contact: Oklahoma Department of Education (part of the Federal Security Agency)
contact number #405-521-2107
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Kool-Aid Drills?

Jim Jones the Alleged CIA mind control expert, and alleged Sociopath. Conducted similar "Kool-Aid" drills with his congregation.
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Reverend James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 mass suicide of 909 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip. Over 200 children were murdered at Jonestown, almost all of whom were forcibly made to ingest cyanide by the elite Temple members.

""

The NAZIS, when rounding up jewish people for extermination told their victims they were being taken to a "Safe" place, no one ever informed them where they were going.

The busses and trains were painted with colorful "Party" colors and such.
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Grove public schools

[link to grandlakenews.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


That is very public...where is the secret, as it says in teh title.
 Quoting: Leda123


There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I have visited the site and it doesn't say they will be taken to an undisclosed site, at least there.

I have worked as a teacher for over 10 years in different schools and the nature of ALL emergency evacuations to a alternate site is not new. Students usually go to a local church or community center. Each teacher knows where to bring his/her students.

As usual here at GLP I think that the fear mongers and the OP are blowing this way out of proportion. BTW- The article says that they won't tell you WHAT school is going to be evacuated, so I think the OP daughters are getting bad intel as their teachers do not know. As a parent I find it hard to believe OP that you would resort to asking this site for information regarding the safety of your children, you should go see the Principle f2f if you are that concerned....shame on you...
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Regarding this, emergency evacuations since you said you were a teacher. If it is only a drill, is parental consent required if students are to be taken off campus for a drill? We're not talking about an actual emergency, but a practice drill.
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HOMESCHOOL.

you do not have to send your children to the government daycare facility. i know people have been brainwashed to think this is normal, but it is NOT. my two eldest are on scholarship at the best schools in this country, and they were homeschooled. am now homeschooling the youngest three.

there are a million reasons to keep your children at home with you. the example you posted is just one more DANGEROUS and FRIGHTENING reason to do it.

-concerned ma-
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I don't have any children

Decided when I was 18 this world was too f'd up to have children and I did not want to see them be in the military supporting the beast

I am so glad I never had kids today, as I see all the crap going on

Things are not as they were even 10 years ago

If I did have children, I would NEVER allow to go into these cesspools

of bad people running the place and bad kids to deal with on top of sex, drugs

I know the schools near me are suppose to be some of the best high schools in the country

What a joke!

THey are infested with drugs and drinking

Home school!!
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OP, so what are you going to do in the future ?

This is a "drill", but the "real thing" can happen at any time
without your notice.

In fact, this "drill" WAS your notice that your children can be
taken away from school without your consent to an undisclosed
location at any time for any reason TPTB see fit.




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I want to get more information in a nice and friendly way before going in there and giving them a piece of my mind. I will be calling today and will report back what I find out.

Do you think I should park across the street and film the damned thing tomorrow? My kids are NOT going to participate and be trained that it's okay for the authorities to round you up like animals and drive you away to an "undisclosed location."
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I haven't read all the pages OP, BUT, you should absolutely keep the kids home and then go yourself to an area close enough to watch, tape & FOLLOW THE BUSES! Get to the bottom of it.

Good luck and I hope your avatar name does not become a reality.
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Get ALL the parents you Can to BOYCOTT the school that day
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I have visited the site and it doesn't say they will be taken to an undisclosed site, at least there.

I have worked as a teacher for over 10 years in different schools and the nature of ALL emergency evacuations to a alternate site is not new. Students usually go to a local church or community center. Each teacher knows where to bring his/her students.

As usual here at GLP I think that the fear mongers and the OP are blowing this way out of proportion. BTW- The article says that they won't tell you WHAT school is going to be evacuated, so I think the OP daughters are getting bad intel as their teachers do not know. As a parent I find it hard to believe OP that you would resort to asking this site for information regarding the safety of your children, you should go see the Principle f2f if you are that concerned....shame on you...
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Do the parents know the location of these sites? Do the students? If you evacuated the school could a parent go to the other location and get their child?

Other posters have asked about permission slips - what authority do you have to remove the students from the school to another location?

I worked in Public schools and when we had a problem, mechanical, electrical, plumbing we sent the kids home we didn't send them to "An undisclosed location"
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Grove public schools

[link to grandlakenews.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


That is very public...where is the secret, as it says in teh title.
 Quoting: Leda123


There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I have visited the site and it doesn't say they will be taken to an undisclosed site, at least there.

I have worked as a teacher for over 10 years in different schools and the nature of ALL emergency evacuations to a alternate site is not new. Students usually go to a local church or community center. Each teacher knows where to bring his/her students.

As usual here at GLP I think that the fear mongers and the OP are blowing this way out of proportion. BTW- The article says that they won't tell you WHAT school is going to be evacuated, so I think the OP daughters are getting bad intel as their teachers do not know. As a parent I find it hard to believe OP that you would resort to asking this site for information regarding the safety of your children, you should go see the Principle f2f if you are that concerned....shame on you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11476378


I'm tending to agree with the AC above here.

Heaven knows we don't have things like... well, tornadoes around here, especially this time of year. Then add to that the possibility of a nut case with a gun coming onto campus (and note - I am being anti nut case here, not anti gun at all) or even an example from my senior year way back, when something so simple as a carbon monoxide problem with the central heat sent several students and teachers to the local hospital.

The article never states they're being moved or transported anywhere. Add to that, what information is mentioned in the original post is coming second hand from the kids, and any parent can tell you that isn't the most reliable kind.

Honestly, were this me (and I do still have one child in school) and were I naturally a frightened type of person, then I think I would have simply called or went to the superintendent's office and asked what was going on. (And yes, that's not a difficult or unheard of thing especially in these smaller districts to simply go and see them.)

Granted though, it's much less dramatic and "fun" than getting yourself and anyone else you can all in a tizzy over nothing though.

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Permission slips are required by law in many places in order for an organization to be allowed to take a student on a trip. While laws vary by jurisdiction, they are generally present in accordance with the laws minors must be given by their parents or legal guardians to be transported by another adult.

Information that may be found on a permission slip may include the student's name, the location where the field trip will occur, and emergency contact info.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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i had a dream about this, the next thing that happens in the dream is once they are at the detention camps they line up for vaccinations, after that you will never get them "back".
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That is very public...where is the secret, as it says in teh title.
 Quoting: Leda123


There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I have visited the site and it doesn't say they will be taken to an undisclosed site, at least there.

I have worked as a teacher for over 10 years in different schools and the nature of ALL emergency evacuations to a alternate site is not new. Students usually go to a local church or community center. Each teacher knows where to bring his/her students.

As usual here at GLP I think that the fear mongers and the OP are blowing this way out of proportion. BTW- The article says that they won't tell you WHAT school is going to be evacuated, so I think the OP daughters are getting bad intel as their teachers do not know. As a parent I find it hard to believe OP that you would resort to asking this site for information regarding the safety of your children, you should go see the Principle f2f if you are that concerned....shame on you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11476378


Regarding this, emergency evacuations since you said you were a teacher. If it is only a drill, is parental consent required if students are to be taken off campus for a drill? We're not talking about an actual emergency, but a practice drill.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Parental consent is implied. You agree to certain things by sending your children to a public school. Case in point-the most recent drill I was a part of was to evacuate the high school I worked at with over 1000 students to 5 sites...all withing walking distance. Now, I do question the busing aspect of it, but then again I am responding without having all the information in front of me. So the answer is yes. I suggested before that the OP goes to the principle of the school OP kids are at...a better recommendation would be to go to the Superintendents office since he or she would be better qualified to answer concerns. According to the article the staff of the schools are not aware of whom is to be "chosen", so going to the principle may not be helpful.
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Follow those buses. Probably will be in a m. Maybe sit in parking lot, or maybe hand the teacher an old phone not used.
Keep real phone tucked away. Maybe not, probably would be expelled...
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I would be happy to give a mod the school name and location to verify. I don't think it will help things to have droves of GLPers calling the school asking about FEMA camps or the NWO or whatever other wacky trouble some may cause.
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You're wrong. It would stop the drill.
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There is no information on the news link as to the kids being taken off campus, the OP said her kids were informed by the staff at school.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I have visited the site and it doesn't say they will be taken to an undisclosed site, at least there.

I have worked as a teacher for over 10 years in different schools and the nature of ALL emergency evacuations to a alternate site is not new. Students usually go to a local church or community center. Each teacher knows where to bring his/her students.

As usual here at GLP I think that the fear mongers and the OP are blowing this way out of proportion. BTW- The article says that they won't tell you WHAT school is going to be evacuated, so I think the OP daughters are getting bad intel as their teachers do not know. As a parent I find it hard to believe OP that you would resort to asking this site for information regarding the safety of your children, you should go see the Principle f2f if you are that concerned....shame on you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11476378


Regarding this, emergency evacuations since you said you were a teacher. If it is only a drill, is parental consent required if students are to be taken off campus for a drill? We're not talking about an actual emergency, but a practice drill.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Parental consent is implied. You agree to certain things by sending your children to a public school. Case in point-the most recent drill I was a part of was to evacuate the high school I worked at with over 1000 students to 5 sites...all withing walking distance. Now, I do question the busing aspect of it, but then again I am responding without having all the information in front of me. So the answer is yes. I suggested before that the OP goes to the principle of the school OP kids are at...a better recommendation would be to go to the Superintendents office since he or she would be better qualified to answer concerns. According to the article the staff of the schools are not aware of whom is to be "chosen", so going to the principle may not be helpful.
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According to the Wikipedia link, most places have laws in place, HOWEVER as to whether or not that applies to drills I do not know. What state was this and how long ago? That way people can look into it for their own school district and see what laws do apply.
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The key to this post is that it's GROVE Oklahoma folks. Gove is the home of Grank Lake, the fun getaway spot for TPTB in Tulsa and the surrounding area. Grove swells to a city of over 200000 people each weekend during the summer AND Grand Lake had the green algae that caused respirtory infections last year including Senator Jim Inhofe.

Maybe they need to practice busing them away from a chemical contamination from the lake?
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Follow those buses. Probably will be in a m. Maybe sit in parking lot, or maybe hand the teacher an old phone not used.
Keep real phone tucked away. Maybe not, probably would be expelled...
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That's a good idea too. Follow the buses!
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Yes, I still don't get why the OP has not called personally instead of just posting here.

I google mapped the Grove high school. Grand Lake is there (very popular lake here in OK) and a LOT of farmland. The school itself is very odd with odd shapes to it. There appears to be a funky outside courtyard type thing in the middle of the building (with building walls surrounding it).

If the school wasn't two hours away I would go and hang out and see what is going on tomorrow. Then again, it IS a lovely drive and we are in for nice weather. :)
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Yes, I still don't get why the OP has not called personally instead of just posting here.

I google mapped the Grove high school. Grand Lake is there (very popular lake here in OK) and a LOT of farmland. The school itself is very odd with odd shapes to it. There appears to be a funky outside courtyard type thing in the middle of the building (with building walls surrounding it).

If the school wasn't two hours away I would go and hang out and see what is going on tomorrow. Then again, it IS a lovely drive and we are in for nice weather. :)
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OP hasn't been on for a while but she said that is what she was going to do and post here later on so I guess we'll see...
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I don't post bullshit, I'm not trolling, and this needs to be taken seriously and I would appreciate some evaluation from others. My children will NOT be attending school on Tuesday for this "drill."

I live in a rural town in Oklahoma. We got a pre-recorded message on our home phone tonight informing us of an "emergency preparedness drill" that will be taking place on Tuesday of this week. It was non-detailed, and just said that they wanted to practice in case of a real emergency and that this was only a drill. As a parent, I was NOT notified of the plan surrounding the drill or that the students would be taken away from campus.

After the call, I mention this to my teen girls, one is a junior and the other a senior in the public high school. They already knew about the upcoming drill, just not the specific day as "the drill was supposed to happen weeks ago, before spring break, but the police weren't ready so they delayed it." They also told me that the teachers have been upfront with them that they will be placed on buses and taken to an undisclosed location. One of the possible scenarios the students have been told the emergency might be is a possible chemical spill at the school. WHAT? The senior has been told when the drill begins, one instructor has told her class that all students have to turn off their cell phones and give the phones to the teacher in clear designated baggies for her to keep control of "in case a student decided to detonate a bomb with their phone." WTF? If they're practicing for a "chemical spill emergency" why do phones have to be given up so no detonation may occur?

The kids have also been told they'll be away from the school for two hours and if they end up missing vo-tech because of the drill, the absence will be excused. There's RUMOR that the police/authorities will be searching lockers and belongings while the kids are taken away for two hours, but that is unconfirmed and is just a rumor, although I wouldn't be surprised.

Does anyone else see a problem with this? If students are going to be removed from the campus for two hour as part of an emergency drill and their location undisclosed while the students have no access to communication devices to contact their parents, don't you think they should have gotten parent permission or at least some disclosure?

In my opinion, it seems the school system is planning and practicing how to remove children from school and take them away to undisclosed location without access to communication to let their families know their status and their location. Why would the school not want parents to be aware of where their children are? Why gone for two hours?

Where are the permission forms? Parental rights? Where is the disclosure and transparency? This just seems a little too big brother for me.

There is only a brief mention of a drill in the local paper, but it gives no details and says only that one school will be involved but they aren't saying which school. There is only one high school in this town and my kids seemed to know all about this drill so it's probably theirs.

Please suggest a pin so this can be discussed.
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There are a few red flags here for me too. First, in
a real emergency there would be NO time to coordinate
buses to take children away. At best, they would shelter
in place or be taken outside and parents allowed to take
them or gather in a football field, etc. Likewise, in a
real emergency, phones would not be confiscated and so
that the phones are going to be confiscated makes me
wonder if they are not going to chip them or copy all
the info from the phone cards? Certainly, I would never
want my child to hand over their phone. They can be
asked to "turn them off", but no way should they be
handed over.

Please go with your gut reactions that this situation
is not normal and really should not be accepted as the
"new normal". Keep the kids and their phones home!
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Get ALL the parents you Can to BOYCOTT the school that day
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why just boycott that day? how to know when they might do it again? i'm serious when i say HOMESCHOOL.

the public school system now is quite simply nothing as it was intended to be. i support the IDEA of a public school system. of course all children should have access to education, regardless of the income status of their parents.
however, such schools did not exist in the past- think of the great minds, the thinkers of the past, the founding fathers- they never attended the public daycare that is now our public school. these schools actually LIMIT the education of your children. limit their potential.
they are daycares for poor or middle class people, to keep women at work and to control the minds of the next generation. of course a teacher has great hopes and aspirations, never intends to be a part of such an insidious process, but it is what it is.

HOMESCHOOL. then your government can't force you to inoculate your child with untested vaccines (such as HPV), they can't tell your kid how to think, and they can't TAKE YOUR CHILD TO AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION IN THE EVENT OF AN "EMERGENCY!"
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The key to this post is that it's GROVE Oklahoma folks. Gove is the home of Grank Lake, the fun getaway spot for TPTB in Tulsa and the surrounding area. Grove swells to a city of over 200000 people each weekend during the summer AND Grand Lake had the green algae that caused respirtory infections last year including Senator Jim Inhofe.

Maybe they need to practice busing them away from a chemical contamination from the lake?
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MAYBE? there should be a REAL explanation. not an assumption that the school is doing the right thing for your children. why are people so damn trusting of public schools?
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Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED*
I don't post bullshit, I'm not trolling, and this needs to be taken seriously and I would appreciate some evaluation from others. My children will NOT be attending school on Tuesday for this "drill."

I live in a rural town in Oklahoma. We got a pre-recorded message on our home phone tonight informing us of an "emergency preparedness drill" that will be taking place on Tuesday of this week. It was non-detailed, and just said that they wanted to practice in case of a real emergency and that this was only a drill. As a parent, I was NOT notified of the plan surrounding the drill or that the students would be taken away from campus.

After the call, I mention this to my teen girls, one is a junior and the other a senior in the public high school. They already knew about the upcoming drill, just not the specific day as "the drill was supposed to happen weeks ago, before spring break, but the police weren't ready so they delayed it." They also told me that the teachers have been upfront with them that they will be placed on buses and taken to an undisclosed location. One of the possible scenarios the students have been told the emergency might be is a possible chemical spill at the school. WHAT? The senior has been told when the drill begins, one instructor has told her class that all students have to turn off their cell phones and give the phones to the teacher in clear designated baggies for her to keep control of "in case a student decided to detonate a bomb with their phone." WTF? If they're practicing for a "chemical spill emergency" why do phones have to be given up so no detonation may occur?

The kids have also been told they'll be away from the school for two hours and if they end up missing vo-tech because of the drill, the absence will be excused. There's RUMOR that the police/authorities will be searching lockers and belongings while the kids are taken away for two hours, but that is unconfirmed and is just a rumor, although I wouldn't be surprised.

Does anyone else see a problem with this? If students are going to be removed from the campus for two hour as part of an emergency drill and their location undisclosed while the students have no access to communication devices to contact their parents, don't you think they should have gotten parent permission or at least some disclosure?

In my opinion, it seems the school system is planning and practicing how to remove children from school and take them away to undisclosed location without access to communication to let their families know their status and their location. Why would the school not want parents to be aware of where their children are? Why gone for two hours?

Where are the permission forms? Parental rights? Where is the disclosure and transparency? This just seems a little too big brother for me.

There is only a brief mention of a drill in the local paper, but it gives no details and says only that one school will be involved but they aren't saying which school. There is only one high school in this town and my kids seemed to know all about this drill so it's probably theirs.

Please suggest a pin so this can be discussed.
 Quoting: withoutatrace


There are a few red flags here for me too. First, in
a real emergency there would be NO time to coordinate
buses to take children away.
At best, they would shelter
in place or be taken outside and parents allowed to take
them or gather in a football field, etc. Likewise, in a
real emergency, phones would not be confiscated and so
that the phones are going to be confiscated makes me
wonder if they are not going to chip them or copy all
the info from the phone cards? Certainly, I would never
want my child to hand over their phone. They can be
asked to "turn them off", but no way should they be
handed over.

Please go with your gut reactions that this situation
is not normal and really should not be accepted as the
"new normal". Keep the kids and their phones home!
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This is a VERY good point.
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Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED*
I would go to school with my child for several days

If they object to this practice, you know there is something they don't want you to see
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OP, so what are you going to do in the future ?

This is a "drill", but the "real thing" can happen at any time
without your notice.

In fact, this "drill" WAS your notice that your children can be
taken away from school without your consent to an undisclosed
location at any time for any reason TPTB see fit.




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 Quoting: Atossa


EXACTLY. remember, when katrina happened people were bussed all over the country, with no idea or choice about where they went. in an "EMERGENCY" you have absolutely no rights or choices. don't assume the best of a government that now has power, via the patriot act, to do whatever the heck it wants in the name of "emergency."
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Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED*
I would be happy to give a mod the school name and location to verify. I don't think it will help things to have droves of GLPers calling the school asking about FEMA camps or the NWO or whatever other wacky trouble some may cause.
 Quoting: withoutatrace

If there was a 'chemical spill' why your daughters need to be moved more then a block away? Why would only soldiers know where they're detained?
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Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED*
I guess we can just banter back and forth about this, but until OP gets back we won't know anything. I'm HOPING that perhaps her kids misinterpreted what was said about the drill, and that they thought that because an undisclosed location was mentioned, they though it referred to where they would be sent to rather than the undisclosed location being the chosen school like the article indicated. We'll see...

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