Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* | |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I really hate to give the school details here. If there's a trusted member or mod that I could give the details to for confirmation, I would be glad to do so. I just don't want any repercussions after we're identified and labeled as troublemakers for not just blindly accepting our marching orders and our rights trampled. Maybe I should welcome that label, but not with the kids involved too. Quoting: withoutatrace Is it a large school? If so, nobody would be able to single you, a nameless poster on GLP, as the parent who was posting about it. I know what you mean about not wanting to stir the pot, our school district has major issues as well but in this case, this sounds like an issue of safety. What if there is an emergency (family-related) and the parents need to reach their kids? I thought by law, they are required to have permission slips when they leave school grounds. Because they are moving the kids, I would have to imagine they would also need chaperones as well? Oh, I'm sure after I give this link, the school will claim they aren't moving the kids. I assure you they've been telling the high school kids that they'll be gone for two hours for weeks now as it has been planned. I am really trying to not be an alarmist. I know I don't have enough information. But if they're planning to take our kids off campus for two hours without parental consent or the abiliy to contact their parents, that's wrong. What if I needed to pick up my child and I go to the school and there are no kids and it's full of emergency vehicles? Alright, here's the local news story on it. They aren't mentioning the taking the kids off campus but the high schoolers have been told that is the plan, and they'll be gone for two hours. Notice the photo they select for the news story shows kids getting off buses. This is Grove Public Schools in Delaware County, Oklahoma. The high school kids already know they're going to be the ones involved. They've been told they're just being taken to the mid-high campus, but at the same time told it's an undisclosed location and they can't have communication methods if their phones are seized. There are no other schools on the high school campus or within a few miles of that campus. Plus, all the emergency vehicles would scare the little kids. [link to grandlakenews.com] Snippet: Which ever site it takes place at, there will be a tremendous amount of emergency vehicles and we need to get the word out to parents that this is a drill. So in the message that your received, they were not even telling the PARENTS that the kids were being taken off the school grounds? This is just from word-of-mouth from teachers to students? You know, if this is the case, why not just get parental permission? Why so secretive about it? Extremely creepy. |
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withoutatrace (OP) User ID: 1476762 United States 03/26/2012 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* So in the message that your received, they were not even telling the PARENTS that the kids were being taken off the school grounds? This is just from word-of-mouth from teachers to students? Quoting: Laura Bow In the phone message I received, there was no mention of the children being removed from campus. Only that there would be an emergency preparedness drill and it was in the safety and interest of the kids to practice these measures in the event of a real emergency. The teachers have been telling the students about the two hour trip. Apparently, it's been widely discussed. One teacher even said that if the drill begins in her hour, all phones must be turned off and given to her for her to hold onto "in case someone wanted to detonate a bomb." Why scare kids like that? |
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SwampWitch User ID: 684011 United States 03/26/2012 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* Maybe even the kids are waking up. Here is a small town in Oklahoma's 1984 themed half-time show from last fall: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13060777 [link to www.youtube.com] That video moved me to tears. For the life of me, I don't understand what came over me. God help us. ...'n dat's da name a dat tune! |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* So in the message that your received, they were not even telling the PARENTS that the kids were being taken off the school grounds? This is just from word-of-mouth from teachers to students? Quoting: Laura Bow In the phone message I received, there was no mention of the children being removed from campus. Only that there would be an emergency preparedness drill and it was in the safety and interest of the kids to practice these measures in the event of a real emergency. The teachers have been telling the students about the two hour trip. Apparently, it's been widely discussed. One teacher even said that if the drill begins in her hour, all phones must be turned off and given to her for her to hold onto "in case someone wanted to detonate a bomb." Why scare kids like that? I don't know, but I'm wondering who the F they think they are if they are so bold as to not inform parents if they are actually taking the kids off school grounds and not INFORM the parents direct and get validation via permission slips. It could be because of the drill being "random", but why should it be random if it's a drill, why not use it as an opportunity for all schools to prepare? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11889552 United Kingdom 03/26/2012 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I really hate to give the school details here. If there's a trusted member or mod that I could give the details to for confirmation, I would be glad to do so. I just don't want any repercussions after we're identified and labeled as troublemakers for not just blindly accepting our marching orders and our rights trampled. Maybe I should welcome that label, but not with the kids involved too. Quoting: withoutatrace yeah,your right,theres far too many "odd"responses,and the kids hate to be known as trouble makers etc at that age.i'd like to follow their buses though,with binoculars! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13245850 United States 03/26/2012 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* Poop, am trying to think of how you could do it otherwise, as I wouldn't really want my email posted publicly on GLP...no offense to most GLPers, HAHA! Where in the USA are you located? Quoting: Laura Bow You raise a good question. How can someone provide an alternative means of contact to another GLPer without compromising personal information to the rest of the visitors? Perhaps create a temporary email just for this purpose, then provide the other party your personal contact info, then cancel the temporary email? Suggestions? . |
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withoutatrace (OP) User ID: 1476762 United States 03/26/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I don't know, but I'm wondering who the F they think they are if they are so bold as to not inform parents if they are actually taking the kids off school grounds and not INFORM the parents direct and get validation via permission slips. It could be because of the drill being "random", but why should it be random if it's a drill, why not use it as an opportunity for all schools to prepare? Quoting: Laura Bow Laura, the only thing I can come up with is that they DON'T want the parents to know where the kids are taken so they can't intervene or interrupt their exercise because they probably know how pissed off parents would be! I agree, why the need for random school choosing in the news article, but clearly it seems like it's being prepped for the high school. We only have one high school here. One middle school. I think three elementary levels, and an early childhood center. It's NOT a big town. If there's an emergency for real, wouldn't they want to practice evacuating all of the schools at once? I just don't understand why parents aren't being given all the facts up front. The way we were told, it was just no big deal, probably like a fire drill. And then the blind parents hang up the phone and tune back into American Idol. |
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Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* Poop, am trying to think of how you could do it otherwise, as I wouldn't really want my email posted publicly on GLP...no offense to most GLPers, HAHA! Where in the USA are you located? Quoting: Laura Bow You raise a good question. How can someone provide an alternative means of contact to another GLPer without compromising personal information to the rest of the visitors? Perhaps create a temporary email just for this purpose, then provide the other party your personal contact info, then cancel the temporary email? Suggestions? . I thought about that but I guess it's a moot point now since the OP posted the link to the news article. I guess two temporary email addresses set up by the people wanting to correspond would be the way to go next time, since you never know who is really who on GLP lol |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I don't know, but I'm wondering who the F they think they are if they are so bold as to not inform parents if they are actually taking the kids off school grounds and not INFORM the parents direct and get validation via permission slips. It could be because of the drill being "random", but why should it be random if it's a drill, why not use it as an opportunity for all schools to prepare? Quoting: Laura Bow Laura, the only thing I can come up with is that they DON'T want the parents to know where the kids are taken so they can't intervene or interrupt their exercise because they probably know how pissed off parents would be! I agree, why the need for random school choosing in the news article, but clearly it seems like it's being prepped for the high school. We only have one high school here. One middle school. I think three elementary levels, and an early childhood center. It's NOT a big town. If there's an emergency for real, wouldn't they want to practice evacuating all of the schools at once? I just don't understand why parents aren't being given all the facts up front. The way we were told, it was just no big deal, probably like a fire drill. And then the blind parents hang up the phone and tune back into American Idol. And your kids were told this by teachers, not just through other kids at school? What have the teachers specifically told the kids? I wonder if you call the school today and ask them what's going on if they'd admit it to you, because surely if your kids told you this, other kids would have told their parents? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12882884 United States 03/26/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I would not doubt they are taking the kids away from the school, there is probably a blanket permission slip for emergencies that you signed at the beginning of the school year and didn't give a second thought to it. I agree with the posters who suggest keeping your kids home but don't tell them until the morning of the drill. Call them out sick blame food poisoning. Since your kids' cell phones aren't in their names (minors can't sign contracts) I would pitch a fit if my child's school took them. If you want to send your kids get them a tiny video or audio recorder to document what happens and keep their cell phones home. If anyone doubts this search online for stories about drills in schools; SWAT teams and militarized police roaming the halls, holding kids at gun point; its horrible. There was one in the UK where they told the kids their teacher was dead. It's a total mindfuck to prepare them for a police state |
Anonymous User ID: 10906856 United States 03/26/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* Your children are being taken to a Luciferian coven for sodomy lessons. Check it out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308 You people must be blind. I said what is going on here above and you, like, don't even see it. WTF? What makes you say this and can you prove this? |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* It's stories like this that make me grateful that my son is out of school. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12882884 I would not doubt they are taking the kids away from the school, there is probably a blanket permission slip for emergencies that you signed at the beginning of the school year and didn't give a second thought to it. I agree with the posters who suggest keeping your kids home but don't tell them until the morning of the drill. Call them out sick blame food poisoning. Since your kids' cell phones aren't in their names (minors can't sign contracts) I would pitch a fit if my child's school took them. If you want to send your kids get them a tiny video or audio recorder to document what happens and keep their cell phones home. If anyone doubts this search online for stories about drills in schools; SWAT teams and militarized police roaming the halls, holding kids at gun point; its horrible. There was one in the UK where they told the kids their teacher was dead. It's a total mindfuck to prepare them for a police state Good point, though this isn't an actual emergency but merely a drill....maybe calling and talking to the principal today would be a good thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10644407 United States 03/26/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* There's a town in Fallout 3 called Little Lamplight where a busload of kids were on an emergency drill to a set of caverns when the bombs dropped. Only the kids were left and they created an entire town that kicks you out when you turn 18. |
Oh Kay User ID: 12773953 United States 03/26/2012 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I'd keep the kids home. The way I see it. If the school district removes a child from the campus without pior written permission from the childs parent = law suit. The school district is dumb if they havn't thought this thru and it sounds like they havn't. |
HnryBwmn User ID: 11094658 United States 03/26/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* Maybe even the kids are waking up. Here is a small town in Oklahoma's 1984 themed half-time show from last fall: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13060777 [link to www.youtube.com] That video moved me to tears. For the life of me, I don't understand what came over me. God help us. A marching band? I don't get it. You can educate the ignorant, but you can't fix stupid! |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I'd keep the kids home. Quoting: Oh Kay The way I see it. If the school district removes a child from the campus without pior written permission from the childs parent = law suit. The school district is dumb if they havn't thought this thru and it sounds like they havn't. That's what I think, why would they risk that??? Seems foolish to do that. IF they are working in conjunction with the DHS (DHS not mentioned in the article so who knows) maybe there's some type of authority....???? |
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withoutatrace (OP) User ID: 1476762 United States 03/26/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* I want to get more information in a nice and friendly way before going in there and giving them a piece of my mind. I will be calling today and will report back what I find out. Do you think I should park across the street and film the damned thing tomorrow? My kids are NOT going to participate and be trained that it's okay for the authorities to round you up like animals and drive you away to an "undisclosed location." |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 03/26/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Kids being SECRETLY bused away from school - Emergency Preparedness Drill in Oklahoma - Update: *IT HAPPENED* An emergency plan must include the identity and location of hazardous materials, procedures for immediate response to a chemical accident; ways to notify the public about actions they must take; names of coordinators at plants; and schedules and plans for testing the plan. Once the plan is written, the SERC must review it. The LEPC must publicize the plan through the public meetings or newspaper announcements, get public comments, and periodically test the plan by conducting emergency drills. The LEPC must also update the plan at least annually and let the public know of its activities. [link to delawarecountyemergencymanagement.com] Could it have something to do with this? This is Delaware County Emergency Management website, they were mentioned in the article. |