Microsoft "Task Force" Raids Bot Facilities (A MUST-READ)

That part's good.

The future implications of this new authority and power, not so much.

If you're sick of this stuff you're obviously not using your brain while surfing the net.

Anyway, corporations overstepping their bounds as usual.

Is what it is folks, these Corporations have huge money on the line,a and that money talks in Washington.

If ya are breaking the Law online, enter at own risk, ya got to assume everything ya do it watched and logged.

Ya may download a movie or software now, and three years from now get slapped with a lawsuit.

The risk/reword ratio says, it's just not worth it anymore. It sure was fun while it lasted, we got to stick it to the man.

This battle is not worth fighting, protecting free speech online, and freedom of communication, privacy, things of this nature are where any energy should be spent.

Corporations and Governance are linked, it's lose lose any way we cut it.

We don't really want to pay Government employs to understand how to dismantle Bot Nets and other scams when privet Co's like Micro$oft have a vested interest in doing it already.

They, unlike Government have the people whom understand these systems on payroll.

It's not somebody's brother-in-law making the calls on systems that could bring communications of the free World to a standstill for days.

Fascism on one side, Socialism on the other.

Don't make self a target.

Ehhhhhh.....yes and no.

These botnets are OUT OF CONTROL.
This was the next logical step in dealing with the criminals.

They rip off UBER amounts of data and many times sabotage company servers.
Crackdown long overdue.

Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 03/28/2012 08:22 PM

The only thing Microsoft had going for it was early compatibility - a must for businesses wanting to adopt it (mostly as it was pre-installed on their discount Dells)

Now they are a victim of their own success. I'm not a MS fan by the way. I spend 37.5 hours a week repairing Windows XP service pack 3 on Lenovos for the biggest money supply organisation in the UK.

Let's just say, "times are interesting right now"

In other words:

MICROSOFT TAKES OUT COMPETITION FOR YOUR INFORMATION

Botnets bring down webservers by bombardment or "denial of service". They can just be an annoyance, not always a threat.

Botnets could be used for censorship if in the wrong hands.

Just curious.
I have had some SP3 issues on some equipment as well.
What issues are you finding as the root cause?

They do MUCH more than that.

What's next? Google in cahoots with the NSA??

Oh wait..

the OP post is missleading.

a Bot-Net first purpose is not to steal data from personal computer but to use those computers as a tool for our greater purpose like: brute-force , file server, enormous bandwidth usage for anything they like, ddos some route and a lot more.

The point is into one irc channel you can order command to tons of computers at the exact same time.

So now that say , why Microsoft will be unhappy to see a bot-net very secure from the outside attacking Microsoft server and product, making them look like fools, there is no surprise there.

A bot-net gave the owner REAL POWER in this virtual space.

What ever all bot-net is a threat to the giant corp of this world. It is exactly like having a big group of protester acting all together in the same time.


Yes it true that some bot will stole your personal info , activate microphone, webcam without you to know and they are using rootkit to make sure anti-virus, firewall can't stop them, but they are biggest threat for big corp then us , only a very small % really stole your personal information, what they want is a STABLE bot to work for them.



Microsoft competence let me think that the bot-net was in fact a HoneyPot setup by a much much bigger bot-net ;) thats the way your bring the bear where you want too :)

Hundreds of Bad_Pool_Caller Blue screens caused by a conflict with McAffee 8.8. That's just laptops running Pointsec and Mc DLP.

Tricky one!

They can on the infected client machine. Not so good at hacking into other machines over the net yet, but give them time.

Absolutely! I whole heartedly agree. I got hit by that stupid Vista2012 malware and it took me two weeks to rebuild and restore my puter.

With those skills they could make an honest pay at a legit company, but noooo, they want to turn to the dark side.

For that, I hope MS nails those parasitic fuckers to the wall

did I just read that?

Oh....thanks.

McAffe is CRAP.
I won't let anyone touch that garbage with a 10 foot pole...constantly some type of conflicts or resource hog issues.
They used to be the best years ago too....sad.

....stick with Symantec Corporate products....you won't have those issues.

No, all their doing is shutting down their competition. What do you think windows is, it's spyware. If you want your information safe from prying eyes definitely do not use windows.

they should raid Nigeria

Taskforce:
a group or committee, usually of experts or specialists, formed for analyzing, investigating, or solving a specific problem.

"Microsoft obtained court orders that permitted it to seize Web addresses and computers"

"Microsoft employees, accompanied by United States marshals"


It seems Microsoft personnel were given the assignment because of their skills were needed to do the job correctly. You can't exactly send in SWAT to in cutting cables willy nilly. There's more to it than that. But at the same time, wouldn't FBI or another agency have its own specialists that could have done the job?

Just found the thread. Read the article. Distubing on a few levels. Cyber space is a blind black box that so many people know so little about that it never occurs to them that criminals both individual and corporate may be watching them for nefarious purposes. Doubling down, the feds and the corporation that gave the feds a keyhole into the lives of innocent civilians cooperate on secret warrants to seize and spy all without most end-users ever becoming aware of a thing.

The wild west was safer. At least you could hear a gunshot and see the bad guy who always identified himself with a nice big black hat. Now everything is invisible and silent and even the white hats invade unaware.

Where or where is Marshal Matt Dillon when you need him?

Not true.
Once they are in one server.....they have access to EVERYTHING in the domain...and I have seen this first hand.

Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 03/28/2012 09:41 PM

What do you mean "one day?" It's already here.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Before Friday’s sweep, Microsoft attacked three botnets in the last couple of years through civil suits.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

I'm a little confused. How did bot-nets cause "damages" to Microsoft Corporation? Each person that was infected was "damaged" and could sue but Microsoft?

Don't get me wrong I don't miss bot-nets but I'm just wondering how that works? Are they arguing that you really never own your copy of Windows but are just licensed? By infecting their copies of windows on thousands of PCs your "damaging" them?

One of the lessons not learned from the Y2K non-doom is that we are too overly dependent on our infrastructure. Since then, it has been used against us so many times, like crashing airplanes into buildings, sending anthrax through the mail.... and our heavy dependence on computers and networking to the point that some welcome the intervention of gov't to rid us of the virus/trojan curse.

when I lived in the Seattle area, those who worked there refereed to MS as the evil empire.

that day is already here

uh don't look now but they already do

Perhaps, but there are days that I think no one runs anything. That's how messed up and broken this world and its systems are. It's everyone (including corporations) just struggling to keep their heads above water... and not succeeding very well.