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Stock Market No Longer Responds Correctly

 
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Stock market goes up due to all the people buying put options (stocks that go up with failure) and with a quickly spiraling down economy, more people are buying put options to profit than regular stocks to help the economy.

It's like stealing jewelry from a sinking ship, not realizing you're just going to go down with it.
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Stock market goes up due to all the people buying put options (stocks that go up with failure) and with a quickly spiraling down economy, more people are buying put options to profit than regular stocks to help the economy.

It's like stealing jewelry from a sinking ship, not realizing you're just going to go down with it.
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GET OUT while you can!!

They are getting ready to ditch the dollar!
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I brought this up in another thread and was totally ignored.

I believe there is a code being used to help certain individuals make big gains.

Yesterdays ending number.. 13,241.63 look for nines and other signifgant numbers...

6+3=9
4+3+2=9
1+1=2 or 11

Check previous daily ending figures.

I believe it could have to do with odd or even cents... or above or below 50 cents..

Could mean to buy or sell. It could be even more sophisticated... with an actual code book or something...
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Stock market goes up due to all the people buying put options (stocks that go up with failure) and with a quickly spiraling down economy, more people are buying put options to profit than regular stocks to help the economy.

It's like stealing jewelry from a sinking ship, not realizing you're just going to go down with it.
 Quoting: Brisketball


GET OUT while you can!!

They are getting ready to ditch the dollar!
 Quoting: deanzna 10719670


People have been saying this for far too long to be remotley credible anymore
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I brought this up in another thread and was totally ignored.

I believe there is a code being used to help certain individuals make big gains.

Yesterdays ending number.. 13,241.63 look for nines and other signifgant numbers...

6+3=9
4+3+2=9
1+1=2 or 11

Check previous daily ending figures.

I believe it could have to do with odd or even cents... or above or below 50 cents..

Could mean to buy or sell. It could be even more sophisticated... with an actual code book or something...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208



They say there are codes when the buys are so low it would cost more in commission / stamp duty for the shares, such as:

-100 I need shares.
-200 I need shares badly,but do not take the stock down.
-300 Take the price down so I can load shares
-400 Keep trading it sideways.
-500 Gap the stock. This gap can be either up or down, depending on the direction of the 500 signal.
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I trade on the LSE and it is pretty predictable
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lol so you must be a multi billionaire then right? So predictable huh? cruise
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Not yet but I've made a killing so far this week with a share I predicted to rise because i did my research, that's all there is to it
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Plus you can be the best investor in the world, but If youve only got a pound to play with youre not going anywhere. You need money to make money, The more you have the easier it is to make
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Well yes true but if it was so predictable as you say you would have people giving you their money to use.....
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Stock market goes up due to all the people buying put options (stocks that go up with failure) and with a quickly spiraling down economy, more people are buying put options to profit than regular stocks to help the economy.

It's like stealing jewelry from a sinking ship, not realizing you're just going to go down with it.
 Quoting: Brisketball


GET OUT while you can!!

They are getting ready to ditch the dollar!
 Quoting: deanzna 10719670


People have been saying this for far too long to be remotley credible anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13319290


They were saying it the whole time for 20 years before the financial crisis cruise
They just had to get it right eventually yes?
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The market is now completely controlled, that is why I do not even bother to discuss it much anymore.

For those who have made good money in this bubble, please put in hard stops to protect your gains from the inevitable plummet. When will this plummet happen? I do not know -- just take cae with what you have & I congratulate you on your good fortune.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


The market is obviously controlled and share prices represent the value of a company. If there was no control it would not work!

I think you mean manipulated, which it is and always has been. Our money is known as the 'Stupid Money' in the city, and they want it and will pull all the tricks they can to get it - It's far more common in AIM markets than the FTSE though

That said, there is still plenty of money to be made, Much better than getting a real job! I highly reccomend reading the naked trader, a decent book to get you started
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I have been at this since the onset of the .com thing when I was in Grad School. I am positioned to do well regardless of how the stock market moves. Not everyone in here has been tarding since the mid 90s , hence my advice on hard stops.

Edit: Oops! Meant to say trading, lol!! Some of us have been "tarding" for a while too, for that matter :o)

Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 03/27/2012 08:42 AM
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The market is now completely controlled, that is why I do not even bother to discuss it much anymore.

For those who have made good money in this bubble, please put in hard stops to protect your gains from the inevitable plummet. When will this plummet happen? I do not know -- just take cae with what you have & I congratulate you on your good fortune.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


The market is obviously controlled and share prices represent the value of a company. If there was no control it would not work!

I think you mean manipulated, which it is and always has been. Our money is known as the 'Stupid Money' in the city, and they want it and will pull all the tricks they can to get it - It's far more common in AIM markets than the FTSE though

That said, there is still plenty of money to be made, Much better than getting a real job! I highly reccomend reading the naked trader, a decent book to get you started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13319290


I have been at this since the onset of the .com thing when I was in Grad School. I am positioned to do well regardless of how the stock market moves. Not everyone in here has been tarding since the mid 90s , hence my advice on hard stops.
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You've been tarding since the mid 90's? And the only advice you've got is to use stops? lmao
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lol so you must be a multi billionaire then right? So predictable huh? cruise
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Not yet but I've made a killing so far this week with a share I predicted to rise because i did my research, that's all there is to it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13319290


But remember, this week doesn't mean shit, its next year, and the year after and so on.....
Don't get cocky....
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I'm not getting cocky, It could all go tits up months down the line but thats the game :)
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ah so you're not a trader then, you're a gamer? (gambler)
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The market is now completely controlled, that is why I do not even bother to discuss it much anymore.

For those who have made good money in this bubble, please put in hard stops to protect your gains from the inevitable plummet. When will this plummet happen? I do not know -- just take cae with what you have & I congratulate you on your good fortune.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


The market is obviously controlled and share prices represent the value of a company. If there was no control it would not work!

I think you mean manipulated, which it is and always has been. Our money is known as the 'Stupid Money' in the city, and they want it and will pull all the tricks they can to get it - It's far more common in AIM markets than the FTSE though

That said, there is still plenty of money to be made, Much better than getting a real job! I highly reccomend reading the naked trader, a decent book to get you started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13319290


I have been at this since the onset of the .com thing when I was in Grad School. I am positioned to do well regardless of how the stock market moves. Not everyone in here has been tarding since the mid 90s , hence my advice on hard stops.
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You've been tarding since the mid 90's? And the only advice you've got is to use stops? lmao
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chuckle
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
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Two words will explain this^^^

"Moral Turpitude"

When you bail out defunk banks with tax payer monies to the tune of 16.115 trillion dollars to international banking cartels with reserve fiat currency with no oversite: it does not really matter anymore.
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
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oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
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oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
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lol the other inherent fear in tarders, that eventually when they figure out how to make some decent money off it.
It will close 1rof1
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The "market" has been manipulated via GS for at least 20 years, becoming most noticeable in 2007,..the "plunge protection team" is the beast that erases fundamental responses in an otherwise responsive market environment.

Yes, it is rigged.

I now invest in people, not vaporous equities.

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Market?! What is this "market" you speak of?
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
 Quoting: Daikirai


oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4016282


lol the other inherent fear in tarders, that eventually when they figure out how to make some decent money off it.
It will close 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


you show your age ac.
you also show your lack of knowledge in geo-politics and history.
Tell me, how long has the stock markets been around in let's say the last 6000 years?
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
 Quoting: Daikirai


oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4016282


lol the other inherent fear in tarders, that eventually when they figure out how to make some decent money off it.
It will close 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


Ladies and gentlemen

We now have a new GLP'ism along the lines of 'Moran' and 'carshing':

'Tarding' (trading)
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Market?! What is this "market" you speak of?
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Where anything is bought or sold is a market.
Its just this particular one, the government interferes with our ability to buy and sell.
Well I guess this thing called the government interferes in every market then don't they?
You can not just put a cart on the side of the street and sell some things, as you need to pay your franchise fee's to the ponzi scheme of this thing called the government.
Or they arrest you.
You must pay your referral commissions to your masters you never asked for!
Or they will kill you, but hold on, we out number them massively so how can that be???
Oh yeah, mind control.....
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
 Quoting: Daikirai


oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4016282


lol the other inherent fear in tarders, that eventually when they figure out how to make some decent money off it.
It will close 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


Ladies and gentlemen

We now have a new GLP'ism along the lines of 'Moran' and 'carshing':

'Tarding' (trading)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822476


Its always been tarding and tarder
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Goodmorning OP, just waking up? This has been the case since the start of the 'stockmarket'.
 Quoting: Daikirai


oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4016282


lol the other inherent fear in tarders, that eventually when they figure out how to make some decent money off it.
It will close 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


you show your age ac.
you also show your lack of knowledge in geo-politics and history.
Tell me, how long has the stock markets been around in let's say the last 6000 years?
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hahaha look I just spiked your fear your emotional short coming and you are responding like an auto bot lmao
Its funny how when I joke on the internet I get told im young, but when im serious, I get told im old.
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It is all just manipulated

for the big bucks to make money

one day it will all collapse
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Has anyone else noticed that the stock market no longer responds to any type of news correctly? Greece defaults and the market goes up. BMW issues a huge 1.3 million vehicle recall and the BMW company stock goes up. The fed has destroyed the stock market by buying up bonds. Banks hold bonds and sell them which gives them more liquidity. Trillions upon trillions of dollars have been infused. Now the stock market can not correct. All that is left is for the market to collapse. Then not even the Bernake's trillions will be able to save it.
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this is spot-on.
Zerohedge have a video with the exact date the stock markegt broke (I kid you not).
I haven't got the link any more but someone here must have it. It showed volume and buys from 2008 onwards.....watch the video you don't need to be a technical analyst to see when it went wrong.

yes it was when the government started buying there own debt using the banks as the frontmen....
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Thanks. I'll check into that out when I get the chance.
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here ya go, I found it:
[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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bump
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Two words will explain this^^^

"Moral Turpitude"

When you bail out defunk banks with tax payer monies to the tune of 16.115 trillion dollars to international banking cartels with reserve fiat currency with no oversite: it does not really matter anymore.
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Indeed
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The market is now completely controlled, that is why I do not even bother to discuss it much anymore.

For those who have made good money in this bubble, please put in hard stops to protect your gains from the inevitable plummet. When will this plummet happen? I do not know -- just take cae with what you have & I congratulate you on your good fortune.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


The market is obviously controlled and share prices represent the value of a company. If there was no control it would not work!

I think you mean manipulated, which it is and always has been. Our money is known as the 'Stupid Money' in the city, and they want it and will pull all the tricks they can to get it - It's far more common in AIM markets than the FTSE though

That said, there is still plenty of money to be made, Much better than getting a real job! I highly reccomend reading the naked trader, a decent book to get you started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13319290


I have been at this since the onset of the .com thing when I was in Grad School. I am positioned to do well regardless of how the stock market moves. Not everyone in here has been tarding since the mid 90s , hence my advice on hard stops.
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You've been tarding since the mid 90's? And the only advice you've got is to use stops? lmao
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Oh look! The Little American freak with the Aussie flag has reset his modem again.

More adice? It would be way over your head.
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Has anyone else noticed that the stock market no longer responds to any type of news correctly? Greece defaults and the market goes up. BMW issues a huge 1.3 million vehicle recall and the BMW company stock goes up. The fed has destroyed the stock market by buying up bonds. Banks hold bonds and sell them which gives them more liquidity. Trillions upon trillions of dollars have been infused. Now the stock market can not correct. All that is left is for the market to collapse. Then not even the Bernake's trillions will be able to save it.
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it's because they are making the bets before the actuall event. thats the reason, some call it insider trading others speculating. I think it's both. they will make everthing to keep the bubble going
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If 9/10 beginners loose money on the market, then observe a newbie and do the opposite of what they do.

Open a forex trading school, free of charge. Get 10-20 students practicing trading on demo accounts. And you make trades opposite of what they do. If they go long, you go short. If they go short, you go long. Make proper stop losses and your good to go.




Now you have 9/10 odds of profit. After all, the markets move in ways that trick people. So the opposite reactions to fears is the ideal direction.

Easy money
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Market?! What is this "market" you speak of?
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Where anything is bought or sold is a market.
Its just this particular one, the government interferes with our ability to buy and sell.
Well I guess this thing called the government interferes in every market then don't they?
You can not just put a cart on the side of the street and sell some things, as you need to pay your franchise fee's to the ponzi scheme of this thing called the government.
Or they arrest you.
You must pay your referral commissions to your masters you never asked for!
Or they will kill you, but hold on, we out number them massively so how can that be???
Oh yeah, mind control.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


I was being sarcastic. And, BTW, it's not the government interfering, it's the big financial sharks. The governments are too busy killing our rights and bedding the big sharks.
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oh no, this is something different happening right now.
What makes you think there will be stockmarkets in a few years?
I think they will get rid of them & replace them with something else, not for a decade or so though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4016282


lol the other inherent fear in tarders, that eventually when they figure out how to make some decent money off it.
It will close 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


you show your age ac.
you also show your lack of knowledge in geo-politics and history.
Tell me, how long has the stock markets been around in let's say the last 6000 years?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4016282


hahaha look I just spiked your fear your emotional short coming and you are responding like an auto bot lmao
Its funny how when I joke on the internet I get told im young, but when im serious, I get told im old.
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