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The Guys supressing Occult Knowledge are the evil ones!

 
•••Weltschmerz••• (OP)

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Are you gonna share any of this secret knowledge then OP? Or what.
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I don't know all Occult knowledge, obviously. But if you wanna know something, just ask and I try to answer as good as I can.

Also, There is a very good thread which might interest you:
Thread: Post your favourite Occult Book
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Are you gonna share any of this secret knowledge then OP? Or what.
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Yep, this is what I'm thinking. So, what is it that you found hidden? Power? Love? A nice little fantasy without drugs? What is worth the time and search?
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Oh ... IT IS NOT about the words or labels its about the meanings and ideas.. it's role in the timeline of the reality and possible further states of mind/consciousness.

if you can't understand the fundamentals, you are obliged to BELIEVE.

this was never about the symbols or words in religions.

can't you imagine what they're trying to explain or is it just a small judge by the cover of the book. i think you forget the purpose of the religions. they just seek the ideal future of this dimension and consciousness.

even in quran the word used for death in arabic, also means to wake up.

you'd approve if you could see the difference of intelligence between ppl living 2k years ago and now.


we take things a lot more literally and our consciousness definitely got smaller while some people expanded theirs EXPONENTIALLY by leeching your blood. You know it Mr. TPTB

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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
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What if not all of the Bible is false.

What if things were added to the Bible at a later date, by say, I dont know a roman church that saw a new movement sweeping the people and wanted to control that movement by taking over their religion.
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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
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What if not all of the Bible is false.

What if things were added to the Bible at a later date, by say, I dont know a roman church that saw a new movement sweeping the people and wanted to control that movement by taking over their religion.
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In that case, what of the bible is true?
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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
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What if not all of the Bible is false.

What if things were added to the Bible at a later date, by say, I dont know a roman church that saw a new movement sweeping the people and wanted to control that movement by taking over their religion.
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Yeah I think some accounts of the Bible might have actually happened, but the Stuff that is the real deal was ether removed at the concil of nicea or is misinterpreted nowadays.
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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
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yeah but there's a misinterpretation here.

you think they're "believing" when in fact they're just trying to express his significance to the society, which is corrupt.

even if the bible was false, jesus symbolizes the purest form of identity or ego. and if it sounds too idealistic for someone, then he's just leaving more space for his ego to build up and seperate from unity, himself together with his memories.

is it a bit hard to understand philosophically or is it just bs for you ? ?

Last Edited by Q0 on 03/28/2012 07:07 AM
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Are you gonna share any of this secret knowledge then OP? Or what.
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Yep, this is what I'm thinking. So, what is it that you found hidden? Power? Love? A nice little fantasy without drugs? What is worth the time and search?
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None of those things, just natural curiosity on my part.

If you found a door in your house and you opened it and there was another world inside, would you just shut it and forget all about it.

Or would you say what the fcuk is that, and want to know what it was and where did it come from.
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Are you gonna share any of this secret knowledge then OP? Or what.
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Yep, this is what I'm thinking. So, what is it that you found hidden? Power? Love? A nice little fantasy without drugs? What is worth the time and search?
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Read the thread, I don't like to repeat myself...

The reality you live in is only a small part of what is actually possible. You are a lamborghini with a vw-bus engine. But to understand this, you have to deprogram yourself first, and this is a (psychic) painful, long and risky process. It took me my entire adult life and parts of my youth to deprogram myself from the matrix TPTB put us in.
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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
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yeah but there's a misinterpretation here.

you think they're "believing" when in fact they're just trying to express his significance to the society, which is corrupt.

even if the bible was false, jesus symbolizes the purest form of identity or ego. and if it sounds too idealistic for someone, then he's just leaving more space for his ego to build up and seperate from unity, himself together with his memories.

is it too hard to understand philosophically or is it just bs for you ? or what ?
 Quoting: Qualia0



Anyway you slice it, there are 2 sides ultimately on this front...either you believe Jesus was God in the flesh, or you don't...
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not really, i'm saying it can even be a sequel to an ancient story. it can be an interpretation of a philosophical discussion reduced with symbolisms to make it possible to spread among the cultures.

i'm only saying that your perspective is separative. try to grab the whole ?
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not really, i'm saying it can even be a sequel to an ancient story. it can be an interpretation of a philosophical discussion reduced with symbolisms to make it possible to spread among the cultures.

i'm only saying that your perspective is separative. try to grab the whole ?
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And the point is not to be separative but united in the same way of thinking?
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Astral projection is just contact with the fallen angels. Not a good idea. You must be possessed by demons by now.
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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12703721


What if not all of the Bible is false.

What if things were added to the Bible at a later date, by say, I dont know a roman church that saw a new movement sweeping the people and wanted to control that movement by taking over their religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7014384


In that case, what of the bible is true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12703721


Here's a piece from the bible I remember anyway.

3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.

5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.”

To me some parts ring true and others dont and this always comes to mind.
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OP, I agree with you almost totally. My dreams are amazing, and that stuff doesn't come out anything I've been taught. Could you possibly do a short tutorial on astral projection, or point me to a source online that (clearly) explains it? Thanks for your insights.
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Astral projection is just contact with the fallen angels. Not a good idea. You must be possessed by demons by now.
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Are you trolling or are you serious. If you are serious, don't make kids
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OP, I agree with you almost totally. My dreams are amazing, and that stuff doesn't come out anything I've been taught. Could you possibly do a short tutorial on astral projection, or point me to a source online that (clearly) explains it? Thanks for your insights.
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Will do, but i'm at work right now. Have my sources at home. Be patient :)
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The bible....it goes hand in hand with Jesus. If the bible is indeed false and written by man to suppress knowledge, then there is no basis to have Jesus Christ in the dream in the first place....essentially your killing the belief that Jesus was God in the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12703721


What if not all of the Bible is false.

What if things were added to the Bible at a later date, by say, I dont know a roman church that saw a new movement sweeping the people and wanted to control that movement by taking over their religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7014384


In that case, what of the bible is true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12703721


Here's a piece from the bible I remember anyway.

3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.

5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.”

To me some parts ring true and others dont and this always comes to mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7014384



applause2


srsly though, it was a good example :)

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bump

Hmm, I secretly hoped Lisa*Lisa would comment my Thread and tell me what a dark Soul i am and say stuff about demons
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I will tell you what is Hidden.

Jesus was a Master Alchemist.

He Transmutated Bread and Wine into the red and the white stone.

This was known as the Transubstantiation of the Eucharist.

To turn one Substance into another with great power.

It was a food and drink that you could eat and when you partake in it you Commune with God.


The Wine and Craker are only a Symbol for the true Eucharist.

The Philosopher Stone.

The Panacea, or universal medicine and Elixir of Life.

The Holy Grail.
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There is nothing wrong with what Jesus was trying to teach....its what the "church" did with that information that is wrong...

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"The Guys supressing Occult Knowledge are the evil ones!"

on a side note:



when will truth prevail?
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Don't worry OP, Christians will see soon enough that their Anti-Christ is their own Vatican of all things. I mean, it's written in the bible itself.lol The biggest blind is the one who does not want to see.
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One star bandit vs. Five star bandit. I'm lucky i don't give a sh#t about stars ;)
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gave you 5 stars :)
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Heck, they don't even bother to hide it anymore. I've just seen the damn Pope in national TV wearing an inverted cross for everyone to see.
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They say when you lucid dream and astral project, you are using 100% of your brain. I have been very close to astral projection and once I achieve it which will be very soon, then I am going to test this theory by producing music. They say lucid dreamers are lucky because they can practice public speech, problems in life, homework, all that good stuff but 99% of the time a lucid dreamer dreams, they dream of having sex hahahah
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You see....

Most Christians are Super Anti-occult, which means they demonize everything Occult and say it is evil, a satanic deception, blah blah...
When in reality Occult simply means "Hidden".

The powers of your messiahs, Jesus, mohamed, krishna...were Occult, the Vatican Library is Occult. The true meaning of the christian sacrament is Occult. If People claim to be able to talk to god - they speak to an occult (again, hidden) Source.

I guess the hardcore biblethumpers still don't get it, but occult is nothing that is only good or only evil.

The most interesting Subject in the Occult World is without doubt Soul Travel, aka astral projection, Out of Body experiences or to some degree remote viewing.

Christians will try to rip your thread apart, If you are discussing the topic, because the Bible warns strictly not to mess with the astral. they will tell you that you will be posessed by demonic entities and stuff like that, which I can tell you from personal experience, is absolute bullshit.

This is where you have the Chance to realize that the Bible is a work of evil Men. They have the occult knowledge of soul travel, manifestation power, energy grids, contol of mass consciousness and so on, and they use it against humanity, to keep us supressed and enslaved. If we realize our potential, it's over for them. So they had to program us in such a way that we would fear to use our powers. This is the reason the bible was created.

You christians can warn all you want, as long as you didn't try it yourself, you are just blind followers of an old scripture, written by men with an evil agenda.

Astral projection is the road to freedom and understanding of reality - and they don't want you to be free

 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


Well done.

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...so does that make WE 'holy' for revealing them,lol...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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You see....

Most Christians are Super Anti-occult, which means they demonize everything Occult and say it is evil, a satanic deception, blah blah...
When in reality Occult simply means "Hidden".

The powers of your messiahs, Jesus, mohamed, krishna...were Occult, the Vatican Library is Occult. The true meaning of the christian sacrament is Occult. If People claim to be able to talk to god - they speak to an occult (again, hidden) Source.

I guess the hardcore biblethumpers still don't get it, but occult is nothing that is only good or only evil.

The most interesting Subject in the Occult World is without doubt Soul Travel, aka astral projection, Out of Body experiences or to some degree remote viewing.

Christians will try to rip your thread apart, If you are discussing the topic, because the Bible warns strictly not to mess with the astral. they will tell you that you will be posessed by demonic entities and stuff like that, which I can tell you from personal experience, is absolute bullshit.

This is where you have the Chance to realize that the Bible is a work of evil Men. They have the occult knowledge of soul travel, manifestation power, energy grids, contol of mass consciousness and so on, and they use it against humanity, to keep us supressed and enslaved. If we realize our potential, it's over for them. So they had to program us in such a way that we would fear to use our powers. This is the reason the bible was created.

You christians can warn all you want, as long as you didn't try it yourself, you are just blind followers of an old scripture, written by men with an evil agenda.

Astral projection is the road to freedom and understanding of reality - and they don't want you to be free

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And the ETs are demons.

Just like in Hollywood movies.
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They say when you lucid dream and astral project, you are using 100% of your brain. I have been very close to astral projection and once I achieve it which will be very soon, then I am going to test this theory by producing music. They say lucid dreamers are lucky because they can practice public speech, problems in life, homework, all that good stuff but 99% of the time a lucid dreamer dreams, they dream of having sex hahahah
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True. Some top athlets use the technique to run their motions in their minds before they actually do it.
Producers of all kinds (from music over film to architecture, you name it) are astral projecting. Not only can they see what they make, before they actually make it - but creativity is very muh increases during states of altered consciousness.

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