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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astrologers, I need your help. (and yes, in a way this is a data experiment, Cause I teach these things already, I only want your opinion) Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON . Just as the old Qabalistic Mystics would gather 12 of each zodiac to help make a golum. Im asking you to theorize in making a man, a world leader. (Please to all Advanced Initiates, this is only a ONE CHART opinion to the public, Please do not spill details of the GREAT WORK, or it will be deleted) What would his sun and moon and planetary placements be? I know theres the placements of Rulerership, Exhaltation, Detriment and Fall, but what do YOU think? Ill start off with Aries cause of his leadership abilities, Although this would make a very hot headed leader who will probaly kill us all, lol Libra is my Second choice, someone balanced and fair and very suave with the masses. For the Moon sign, Id choose Capricorn or Aries, but if he would get emotional and torn and be dramatic, Id choose a Scorpio Moon Venus and Mars in a Scorpio placement makes the person extremely horny, but not sure if we want that as a trait. We need a Sagitarrius placement to make this man a world traveler. Mercury should always conjunct Sun to give the gift of speech. And Saturn in Virgo would be a cool sign to show him honoring his abilities and then defacing it. What all would you choose? Here is the current placements we are in now Sun in Aries Moon in Gemini Mercury in Pisces Venus in Taurus Mars in Virgo Jupiter in Taurus Saturn in Libra Uranus in Aries Neptune in Pisces Pluto in Capricorn Remember the bodies are Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto Signs are Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces. Here is my favorite chart of all time btw, This was a awesome day, Not a leader per se cause of the Mars placement, but interesting alignment :chartsam23: I know NOTHING about reading charts, but a dream told me to look into my son's natal chart. He was born Dec 21 of this year. I have a screen shot of it, and was struck by the similarity of the one in your OP. You say its your favorite chart of all time. Why? I'm curious because the are soooo similar. Wow, that is special ! He retains the Pluto in Capricorn, near conjunct Sun (cusp of sagitarrius and capricorn) , he will be very, very magnetizing to people and others will flock to him like moths to a light bulb. That is very blessed day and the birthday of Sol Invictus. Read up on all the Christmas Mythologies. This is a very assured birthday of a Christ The above is a screen shot of a December date, notice the cross. The Sagitarrian sign is the womb of the Galactic Center. Named him King btw when you have a chance? [link to imageshack.us] WOW, that is a cradle aspect ! In astrology that is what its called. Think of Baby in a cradle. ! And right on Winter Solstice too Cradle aspects grow up to serve humanity and are humanitarians, You can go to them for nurturing and they always listen. Very blessed chart. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people don't understand astrology. It's really very easy. Learn the orbits of all the planets...then learn which stars make up each constellation in the sky. Then measure where each planet is on any given day, and which constellation it is traveling thru. Don't forget about the sun and moon too. Quoting: imjustsayin If you study astrology just as a hobby....you should be able to mathematically master astrology within a year....maybe two. In order to learn to interpret the data may take a year or two more....unless you have a background in Roman and Greek mythology, sumarian writings....as well as myths, legends and early religions. Learn these things and you will have a good basic working knowledge. there's also some decent webpages out there, also some dodgy ones. Last time I entered my birthdate, I got a mail that I should not wait a minute longer, I would be able to make LOADS of money from my chart, sent me 2 mails about it :D I didn't bite though, besides money isn't everything Michael. right away buy a Llewelyn Planetary Guide 2012. Its like my right hand. I cant imagine going a day without it. If you REALLY want to see your chart in action, have 6-20 dollars handy and buy the JOHN HAYES FORECASTER I print mine out every year and bind it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13395682 United States 03/28/2012 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770 lol, some people maybe, or they mark low what they think is fucking retarded fantasyland bullshit! Dont believe me? Check out this link on the hows and intricacies of Masonic Astrology. [link to www.amazon.com] Thats a luciferian doctrine, a delusion, a trap which will show its face soon only to lead the blinded to a deeper and darker pit. Your illuminati's plan since 1776 will be a one giant and laughable failure from a greater perspective. Why hide, wear it with pride ! lol :illum: LOL, yea i know. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apollo have you ever read a natal chart for twins?? Quoting: Xc25 13200421 ..im curious if it would be combined chart or each separate charts since they were only 9mins. apart That is neat, Ive never done charts for twins. The expertise of a Degree reading astrologer would come into play and youre into AFA certification level. Im not that good yet. But for a worthwhile investment. I would find a professional. Expect to spend 100 dollars for a reading, Takes an hour, but they will print out the pages for you, give you a consultation and or give you a voice reading on CD to pass down to your kids |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1805432 Denmark 03/28/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people don't understand astrology. It's really very easy. Learn the orbits of all the planets...then learn which stars make up each constellation in the sky. Then measure where each planet is on any given day, and which constellation it is traveling thru. Don't forget about the sun and moon too. Quoting: imjustsayin If you study astrology just as a hobby....you should be able to mathematically master astrology within a year....maybe two. In order to learn to interpret the data may take a year or two more....unless you have a background in Roman and Greek mythology, sumarian writings....as well as myths, legends and early religions. Learn these things and you will have a good basic working knowledge. there's also some decent webpages out there, also some dodgy ones. Last time I entered my birthdate, I got a mail that I should not wait a minute longer, I would be able to make LOADS of money from my chart, sent me 2 mails about it :D I didn't bite though, besides money isn't everything Michael. right away buy a Llewelyn Planetary Guide 2012. Its like my right hand. I cant imagine going a day without it. If you REALLY want to see your chart in action, have 6-20 dollars handy and buy the JOHN HAYES FORECASTER I print mine out every year and bind it. thank you, I know you mean well, but im only mildly fascinated, my skeptic side still has me in restraints hehe. But I'll note it, should my fascination win over skeptisms :O) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people don't understand astrology. It's really very easy. Learn the orbits of all the planets...then learn which stars make up each constellation in the sky. Then measure where each planet is on any given day, and which constellation it is traveling thru. Don't forget about the sun and moon too. Quoting: imjustsayin If you study astrology just as a hobby....you should be able to mathematically master astrology within a year....maybe two. In order to learn to interpret the data may take a year or two more....unless you have a background in Roman and Greek mythology, sumarian writings....as well as myths, legends and early religions. Learn these things and you will have a good basic working knowledge. there's also some decent webpages out there, also some dodgy ones. Last time I entered my birthdate, I got a mail that I should not wait a minute longer, I would be able to make LOADS of money from my chart, sent me 2 mails about it :D I didn't bite though, besides money isn't everything Michael. right away buy a Llewelyn Planetary Guide 2012. Its like my right hand. I cant imagine going a day without it. If you REALLY want to see your chart in action, have 6-20 dollars handy and buy the JOHN HAYES FORECASTER I print mine out every year and bind it. thank you, I know you mean well, but im only mildly fascinated, my skeptic side still has me in restraints hehe. But I'll note it, should my fascination win over skeptisms :O) If youre skeptical. buy a John Hayes Forecaster 3 month sample. I think its around 6 dollars, It will leave you convinced. =) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11768688 United States 03/28/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another one , My Son born on 7/11/87 El Paso Tx [link to www.astro.com] and my youngest was the 3/23/90 Colorado Springs, Co [link to www.astro.com] Could I ask you to take a quick look at them for me Apollo, anyone? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another one , My Son born on 7/11/87 El Paso Tx Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~< [link to www.astro.com] and my youngest was the 3/23/90 Colorado Springs, Co [link to www.astro.com] Could I ask you to take a quick look at them for me Apollo, anyone? Flutterby, Youre youngest is a t square pointing to Arian Sun and Mercury, He will need constant mental stimulation as your probaly already observing. As a t square, he will forge a good way of life so you dont have to worry about him being in poverty or being a troublemaker etc, t squares are aggressive and goal orientated. Moon in Aquarius will give him the bouts of the free spirit and something artistic. Ill check out the other one. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another one , My Son born on 7/11/87 El Paso Tx Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~< [link to www.astro.com] and my youngest was the 3/23/90 Colorado Springs, Co [link to www.astro.com] Could I ask you to take a quick look at them for me Apollo, anyone? Another t square, pointing to Jupiter in Aries, This one is a Cancer sun, so home will always be on his mind. Moon in capricorn so this one will be a hard worker. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My word Leader: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3392563 Sun and Mercury In Scorpio Moon In Capricorn Mars in Cancer Jupiter in Gemini Saturn in Pisces Uranus and Pluto in Virgo Neptune in Scorpio ( not in conjunction with Sun and Moon if possible) NICE ! Whats so cool is overwhelmingly so many choose moon in capricorn and mars in cancer, Astrology considers those signs a detriment but why? its very hardworking and very compassionate placements. The Mars in Cancer is a champion of woman and children, home and family and very spiritual. Richard Gere is a Mars in Cancer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11768688 United States 03/28/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another one , My Son born on 7/11/87 El Paso Tx Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~< [link to www.astro.com] and my youngest was the 3/23/90 Colorado Springs, Co [link to www.astro.com] Could I ask you to take a quick look at them for me Apollo, anyone? Another t square, pointing to Jupiter in Aries, This one is a Cancer sun, so home will always be on his mind. Moon in capricorn so this one will be a hard worker. Both of them are very goal oriented ;) The Youngest is going to college and working full time and the other one is an IT2 in the navy with almost 7 years in already,and is working on a degree in network security. I'm a very proud Mom!! Thank You so very much |
franck User ID: 1588549 France 03/28/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am born on jesus resurection day the 27th april and also the year of the opening of the galactic portal. in LYON... it is in France the humanity heart country. am I going to be the chief of the world ? does the world need me ? I could guarentee you happiness for evrybody in every contry. that's cool. i got the perfect living system in my mind but it is only applyable in this limited dimension. therefore it will be obsolete in few weeks. POLL: - are we closer to hell on earth or heaven on earth ? - is it easier to create hell on earth or heaven on earth ? are they any reverse astrology chart software ? you could find your leader that way, by placing planetes on the perfect position and let the soft calculating the closest configurations dates. are we going to do it again ? follow an external savior? for how long ? another 2 000 or 26 000 or 52 000 years ? no it's not the time to change the world but to BE the change in the world well if 2012 was nothing else than shit of the elites to achieve their total domination, i will apply for the job. look i think it's written "world leader" on my chart [link to www.astro.com] |
Xc25 User ID: 13200421 Canada 03/28/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apollo have you ever read a natal chart for twins?? Quoting: Xc25 13200421 ..im curious if it would be combined chart or each separate charts since they were only 9mins. apart That is neat, Ive never done charts for twins. The expertise of a Degree reading astrologer would come into play and youre into AFA certification level. Im not that good yet. But for a worthwhile investment. I would find a professional. Expect to spend 100 dollars for a reading, Takes an hour, but they will print out the pages for you, give you a consultation and or give you a voice reading on CD to pass down to your kids well they aren't really kids anymore. I do not have any children myself. they are my associates. however their bday numbers always seemed mysterious to me 6/11/88 9:23am 6/11/88 9:32am Im not so curious as to spend $100 lol ..but thnx for the info ill pass it on to them when they get home. cheers |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7063795 United States 03/28/2012 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another one , My Son born on 7/11/87 El Paso Tx Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~< [link to www.astro.com] and my youngest was the 3/23/90 Colorado Springs, Co [link to www.astro.com] Could I ask you to take a quick look at them for me Apollo, anyone? Another t square, pointing to Jupiter in Aries, This one is a Cancer sun, so home will always be on his mind. Moon in capricorn so this one will be a hard worker. Both of them are very goal oriented ;) The Youngest is going to college and working full time and the other one is an IT2 in the navy with almost 7 years in already,and is working on a degree in network security. I'm a very proud Mom!! Thank You so very much Youre welcome, I saw success when I saw it, t squares often are. Its true that in the astrology field. a few astrologers will see a bad chart and not want to do it cause they have to tell the truth, but I saw none of this in yours. I only saw good in your childrens charts. You raised fine young men, congrats ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11768688 United States 03/28/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another one , My Son born on 7/11/87 El Paso Tx Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~< [link to www.astro.com] and my youngest was the 3/23/90 Colorado Springs, Co [link to www.astro.com] Could I ask you to take a quick look at them for me Apollo, anyone? Another t square, pointing to Jupiter in Aries, This one is a Cancer sun, so home will always be on his mind. Moon in capricorn so this one will be a hard worker. Both of them are very goal oriented ;) The Youngest is going to college and working full time and the other one is an IT2 in the navy with almost 7 years in already,and is working on a degree in network security. I'm a very proud Mom!! Thank You so very much Youre welcome, I saw success when I saw it, t squares often are. Its true that in the astrology field. a few astrologers will see a bad chart and not want to do it cause they have to tell the truth, but I saw none of this in yours. I only saw good in your childrens charts. You raised fine young men, congrats ! Might have to do with my chart LOL!!You did a mini-reading for me back in August last year Hi Ms Fringe ! Heres a mini reading for your lovely chart. You are a combination of two potent t squares, It gives the person intense focus and plan in one or two directions in your case . You have Neptune in Scorpio that is a dreamy imagination, but assertive to your vision and perfectionist in world issues and causes. Mars in Gemini makes you understand partnerships, communication. You are willing to lend a voice to those that need advice. What also helps you out is your Sun, Moon and Mercury already together in Leo. This gives one no doubt about your ablities and confidence and place in life. The Sun and Moon in mythology are supposed to unite and birth the child of Mecury, Having all three in leo gives you assureness in your goals and a fun loving energy . You recently had a Jupiter return and should have experienced profound spiritual growth , promotion and awareness: January 21, 2010-June 6th 2010 [link to www.astro.com] |
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imjustsayin User ID: 13253730 United States 03/28/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Michael....if you enjoy history....the study of theology will teach you volumes....at least 4000 years from cave writings to modern day astrology. Plus u r learning historical accounts of ancient civilizations....not just the astrological and astronomy side of history. Love & Light... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1805432 Denmark 03/28/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Michael....if you enjoy history....the study of theology will teach you volumes....at least 4000 years from cave writings to modern day astrology. Plus u r learning historical accounts of ancient civilizations....not just the astrological and astronomy side of history. Quoting: imjustsayin (hmm gonna rephrase a bit) Was this for me? I have looked into whatever I can find actually (found alot the last 4 months, haven't really been into all this before), all kinds of theories, I like some of the newer theories, that seem to connect science and spirituality (and astrology) We should respect the teaching of the past, there is alot of lost wisdom and philosophy in the ancient lore. should I find out we were made by a god or by aliens, it wouldn't change how I am today, it would be "nice to know" but nothing more in regard to my current spiritual development. I hope I don't come off arrogant, I don't mean in that way! I love to gain new knowledge about everything, and finding out that I don't know anything at all hehe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1247165 United States 03/28/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This.. Quoting: Kloudnine Ascendant Virgo Sun Taurus Moon Cancer Mercury Gemini Venus Taurus Mars Cancer Jupiter Gemini Saturn Capricorn Uranus Capricorn Neptune Capricorn Pluto Scorpio Awesome, Moon and Cancer, Venus in Taurus and Saturn in Capricorn is at its rulership positions of exhaltation. Does that mean I win? haha [link to www.comevisit.com] exhaltation or exaltation? Its funny how a google search would lead me to an article with the name of the words user in it |
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Atoner User ID: 13334992 United States 03/28/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astrologers, I need your help. (and yes, in a way this is a data experiment, Cause I teach these things already, I only want your opinion) Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON . Just as the old Qabalistic Mystics would gather 12 of each zodiac to help make a golum. Im asking you to theorize in making a man, a world leader. (Please to all Advanced Initiates, this is only a ONE CHART opinion to the public, Please do not spill details of the GREAT WORK, or it will be deleted) What would his sun and moon and planetary placements be? I know theres the placements of Rulerership, Exhaltation, Detriment and Fall, but what do YOU think? Ill start off with Aries cause of his leadership abilities, Although this would make a very hot headed leader who will probaly kill us all, lol Libra is my Second choice, someone balanced and fair and very suave with the masses. For the Moon sign, Id choose Capricorn or Aries, but if he would get emotional and torn and be dramatic, Id choose a Scorpio Moon Venus and Mars in a Scorpio placement makes the person extremely horny, but not sure if we want that as a trait. We need a Sagitarrius placement to make this man a world traveler. Mercury should always conjunct Sun to give the gift of speech. And Saturn in Virgo would be a cool sign to show him honoring his abilities and then defacing it. What all would you choose? Here is the current placements we are in now Sun in Aries Moon in Gemini Mercury in Pisces Venus in Taurus Mars in Virgo Jupiter in Taurus Saturn in Libra Uranus in Aries Neptune in Pisces Pluto in Capricorn Remember the bodies are Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto Signs are Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces. Here is my favorite chart of all time btw, This was a awesome day, Not a leader per se cause of the Mars placement, but interesting alignment :chartsam23: I was looking at my pictorial natal chart and i saw that it had a cross in it like yours does although it appears upside down because the uppermost sign on the chart you have shown as ideal is 180 from mine? What significance could that have?I have very little technical knowledge of this art but would like to learn more. Any help or reading material recommnedations would be great. Thank You again. :) “One day you will ask me which is more important? My life or yours? I will say mine and you will walk away not knowing that you are my life.” -Kahlil Gibran |
Xc25 User ID: 13200421 Canada 03/28/2012 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apollo have you ever read a natal chart for twins?? Quoting: Xc25 13200421 ..im curious if it would be combined chart or each separate charts since they were only 9mins. apart That is neat, Ive never done charts for twins. The expertise of a Degree reading astrologer would come into play and youre into AFA certification level. Im not that good yet. But for a worthwhile investment. I would find a professional. Expect to spend 100 dollars for a reading, Takes an hour, but they will print out the pages for you, give you a consultation and or give you a voice reading on CD to pass down to your kids Surprising to me they are interested. They asked if it would be $100 or $100 x2 because they are twins? They just did a quicky online & this was their result Twins 6/11/88 Sun Gemini Rising Cancer Moon Taurus Mercury Gemini Venus Gemini Mars Pisces Jupiter Taurus Saturn Sagittarius Uranus Sagittarius Neptune Capricorn Pluto Scorpio True Node Pisces & they also have 14 major aspects that I wont bother to list. I was surprised when they showed me because I too have cancer rising & taurus moon, although I am 16yrs. older than they are & they also have the same sort of cradle pattern going on that I have in my own chart. Strange Myself 9/25/72 Sun Libra Rising Cancer Moon Taurus Mercury Libra Venus Leo Mars Virgo Jupiter Sagittarius Saturn Gemini Uranus Libra Neptune Sagittarius Pluto Libra True Node Capricorn There are 20 major aspects with my chart. Sure seemed like an odd coincidence to me? Im now wondering if the fact that they share same rising & moon as myself if this is maybe the reason they cant seem to leave my side? lol kidding .... NOT! anyhow it has peaked their interest enough that they are now willing to spend their hard earned money to find out more. & also the fact that the chart they just received was only based on the first birth time at 9:23am. But their birth certificates say 9mins. apart > 9:23am & 9:32am respectively. I think they are interested in a professional now if you know of one, im sure they'll be delighted. peace brother |
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