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Remote Viewing Discussion -- future times / places / spontaneous OBEs

 
tandym (OP)

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Incidentally, I told him to RV March 28th, the Mississppi River and he saw:

Muddy Brown Water (the entire river). As he looked up the river and around the area, he saw:

a white hand and a blue flowered dress in the water -- the body was wearing a life vest of some sort, but it did not succeed in keeping the person afloat in the right way -- as if it were snagged by something, etc.

A stroller (pram) that was jammed in some debris

He saw lots of trees lining the water -- with very dark, papery bark, and some sort of moss hanging from the branches. (Spanish moss, maybe?)

He also saw, when he looked east, a 6-sided die, with the '2' showing.

***I forgot to add regarding the Mississippi River:

That he saw a bundle of steel cables that had either been cut or snapped and made him wonder if there had been some sort of bridge there at one point...
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I had a dream last night about a mud slide
the location was Tennessee



Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 365)

I had three different dreams all three were about water.
one was a mud slide my friend was in the dream he survived.

the other two were two other locations massive tsunami. in one of the dreams I know for sure felt like Japan and the giant waves came from both sides in the dream.
I was in this place like a sea aquarium there was someone there watching over the aquarium but didn't care what I was doing .... I jumped in the water naked ha!

as I was swimming around I noticed the water started to move funny back and fourth and got bigger and bigger till so big it picked me up carried me away till yet I met another big wave just as high and BAM slapped right between like a sandwich!

the other dream was at a beach and I was with a child. and we were trying to out run it as we saw it coming it took her away I couldn't deal living with out her so I jumped in let the wave taking me too said im coming honey.

that one fucked me up good woke up crying

im pretty sure I had this nightmare because of the last thing I saw last night before bed saw in the mood thread someone posted a video the image was a giant wave didn't watch the video.. I guess the image stuck with me.
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Wow, thanks for posting. Synchronicity about the mud slide in Tennessee.

I too have seen another massive tsunami coming for Japan :-(

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How does that go..ask and you shall receive. You already had the answer - too soon but you were still given a glimpse. Has that changed your views?
For you and your father hf



Hello! Ive had some success through the years with OBE's. It is true, I believe that without a plan, the course of the experience can be kinda all over the place. Ive had somewhere around a dozen or more that I was TRULY conscious for during its entirety, as a few others sort of end up melding into a dream type thingy. Early on (after reading Monroe's book) I would be so shocked that it was happening I would simply "wake" up before it went anywhere.

One particularly interesting experience (to me) was at the request of my father-in-law I asked to see God. Neither of us have a dogmatic view, so I was open to anything. I should state first that my father had just recently passed away, and before my God request I asked to see him. I was "given" the knowledge that it was too soon. I remembered my father in law's request and sort of floated up my street and was taken under a tree. at this point I was not only lucid, but hyper aware. I could see a 360 degree view of my environment, the colors were brighter and everything was clearer and vibrant. A drop of dew fell on my leg and in that moment I saw and felt EVERYTHING..the whole spectrum of the human experience. it was so intense that I of course slammed back into my body, not feeling at all as though I were asleep..
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Hello! Ive had some success through the years with OBE's. It is true, I believe that without a plan, the course of the experience can be kinda all over the place. Ive had somewhere around a dozen or more that I was TRULY conscious for during its entirety, as a few others sort of end up melding into a dream type thingy. Early on (after reading Monroe's book) I would be so shocked that it was happening I would simply "wake" up before it went anywhere.

One particularly interesting experience (to me) was at the request of my father-in-law I asked to see God. Neither of us have a dogmatic view, so I was open to anything. I should state first that my father had just recently passed away, and before my God request I asked to see him. I was "given" the knowledge that it was too soon. I remembered my father in law's request and sort of floated up my street and was taken under a tree. at this point I was not only lucid, but hyper aware. I could see a 360 degree view of my environment, the colors were brighter and everything was clearer and vibrant. A drop of dew fell on my leg and in that moment I saw and felt EVERYTHING..the whole spectrum of the human experience. it was so intense that I of course slammed back into my body, not feeling at all as though I were asleep..
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That is truly AWESOME.
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maybe glp should have its own rv club?
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That might be fun!
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remote viewing is a good mind work out. i have done it with a ex gf. she drew a picture and i at the same time i drew what she did. we was on the phone doing this and once we was done we sent the pix to each other and they was 98% alike .. we both drew a beach with palm tress and a clear sky with a bright sun.. the only thing she drew fish in the water. in my pic i just colored it blue.. but remote viewing works.... tip just clear your mind of any thoughts then images come to you... try what me and my ex did try to draw what your friend or partner is drawing. try 2 be in a different room to help you more and dont guess remember clear thoughts.
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Anyone with suggestions on how I should make it more structured next time -- without ruining the calm quality of it? Its very relaxing what we do now -- but even my husband thinks we should try something with verification next time (planning to try again tomorrow).

Should I do like the instructional vids show and put some pictures in some manilla envelopes?
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remote viewing is a good mind work out. i have done it with a ex gf. she drew a picture and i at the same time i drew what she did. we was on the phone doing this and once we was done we sent the pix to each other and they was 98% alike .. we both drew a beach with palm tress and a clear sky with a bright sun.. the only thing she drew fish in the water. in my pic i just colored it blue.. but remote viewing works.... tip just clear your mind of any thoughts then images come to you... try what me and my ex did try to draw what your friend or partner is drawing. try 2 be in a different room to help you more and dont guess remember clear thoughts.
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That is very cool. Is that the only time that you two tried it?
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This isn't remote viewing it's just lying back, relaxing and imagining stuff. There are very precise techniques involved in remote viewing. The viewer should be given a set of numbers and that is all. These numbers will be chosen at random by the person acting as the control. The numbers should be written on an envelope prior to the viewer receiving them The number(s) act as an anchor for the viewer to focus on. Inside the envelope should be the subject matter the controllers wish to have viewed so it could just be a name, a place or a few newspaper clippings, anything, as long as it relates to the subject. This will be kept in a secret location and of course will not be revealed until the viewing is completed. Remember the only info the viewer has to go on is the number they have been given which is written on the envelope.

As for how the viewer then accesses the 'viewing' state, that's another issue which i won'treveal ;-)
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yes cause she got creep out . im sure i done other things with friends but cant remember the way it went 100%.
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...speaking in more of a general term, not a specific instance. I think I'm wired backwards. When I'm tense about something happening, nothing happens. It seems something does when I have good vibes running.
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Me too.

If I am tense, its for naught. If I have a sick feeling though -- then something is definitely going to happen that day. Though to be fair -- those times have only occurred when it was something of a personal nature.
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Several times, me and my wife get caught up in a vortex of shit that seems to come out of nowhere. The last 3-4 times, usually around springtime, we can actually see it coming on, and have noticed not only the same players, but we can bank on the fact we will come out of it much, much cleaner and more enlightened on the backside. revelations of/in ones' life.
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Can you describe the vortex a little more? Is it strictly mental? Is it also a physical feeling impression? Which players do you mean?
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It's a whirlwind of bad Karma that manifests into hidden feelings coming out, or unforeseen situations at work, or deaths in the family. Things like that. Not drama related-but actual, well, Karma. It always happens around the same time of year. And by same players, I mean specific people in my life are advancing in their road to enlightenment, while others are attached to what the physical world offers; the effort to offer guidance is heavier than the outcome they would receive, and is starting to hinder the path of those who love. Basically, faithful or faithless-whatever your beliefs may be. It always concludes within 24-36 hours from start. And each time, me n wife end up with a much deeper connection to her youngest brother and wife when it may not have involved either of us in the first place. Somehow it just works out that way to the point where we can trust in it, let alone see it coming.

I no longer practice organized religion, but have an unfaultering faith in God. I know where my path will lead me after the physical is gone. I am learning where it can take me now. Each person's path will be different.
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This isn't remote viewing it's just lying back, relaxing and imagining stuff. There are very precise techniques involved in remote viewing. The viewer should be given a set of numbers and that is all. These numbers will be chosen at random by the person acting as the control. The numbers should be written on an envelope prior to the viewer receiving them The number(s) act as an anchor for the viewer to focus on. Inside the envelope should be the subject matter the controllers wish to have viewed so it could just be a name, a place or a few newspaper clippings, anything, as long as it relates to the subject. This will be kept in a secret location and of course will not be revealed until the viewing is completed. Remember the only info the viewer has to go on is the number they have been given which is written on the envelope.

As for how the viewer then accesses the 'viewing' state, that's another issue which i won'treveal ;-)
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This is very methodical, thanks. I think I will try something like it tomorrow.

I'd ask for suggestions on places / events but then... maybe that would be putting too much out there in the ether!
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yes cause she got creep out . im sure i done other things with friends but cant remember the way it went 100%.
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For some people, the idea of ESP is cool! But not so much when it's real. Sorry it worked out that way :-(
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Since I was a child, I noticed that sometimes different dreams were in the same place. It wasn't until my mid-to late 20's that I realized I was building an entire city and it all interconnected. I have built training rooms for flying and other talents, sunny skies, roads and fields and people, and have given myself things- safe houses, space maps to other planets, phone booths that can transport me anywhere. Still today, when I dream, it is not familiar, but home. It IS a reality past what this material world is. I try to train my brain to imagine past the six senses we have, and allow myself more than than I am aware of currently. I learn a lot of lessons there. I learn new patience, new understanding. It's like I'm tapping into a larger consciousness. I also feel-scratch that-I know I am "out there" as well as my physical body being "here". There is another part of me out there that I can't feel attached to due to the limitations of the body.
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We are all energy. Connected; to everyone and everything. We exist on multidimensional levels. The only difference between the dimension are wavelengths. Your altered state(brainwaves not in the beta range) escaped your conditioning to this dimension - in which your dream construct holds the key to the past.

Atlantis and Lemuria are not legends. Some people also feel compelled to be in another part of the world of which they have no logical connection to. They are drawn to the energy vortices our ancestors left for us.
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yeah it is cool, lost a few friends to it cause they said its the devil. i just laugh and keep moving, but try drawing cause images respond to our minds well more than numbers.. and im sure thats how animal communicate, picture thoughts or still images.
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If you want an example of remote viewing, I made this thread years ago when police imposters kidnapped a 6 year old boy. Thread: CALLING ALL REMOTE VIEWERS, Put your skills to use..Police Imposters Kidnap 6yr old Boy The cue was structured for specifics.

Cole Puffingburger/present location/most recognizable geographic feature
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This is very methodical, thanks. I think I will try something like it tomorrow.

I'd ask for suggestions on places / events but then... maybe that would be putting too much out there in the ether!
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Give an example of what you would like to know.
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If you want an example of remote viewing, I made this thread years ago when police imposters kidnapped a 6 year old boy. Thread: CALLING ALL REMOTE VIEWERS, Put your skills to use..Police Imposters Kidnap 6yr old Boy The cue was structured for specifics.

Cole Puffingburger/present location/most recognizable geographic feature
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Thanks, I will read this with interest!
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Since I was a child, I noticed that sometimes different dreams were in the same place. It wasn't until my mid-to late 20's that I realized I was building an entire city and it all interconnected. I have built training rooms for flying and other talents, sunny skies, roads and fields and people, and have given myself things- safe houses, space maps to other planets, phone booths that can transport me anywhere. Still today, when I dream, it is not familiar, but home. It IS a reality past what this material world is. I try to train my brain to imagine past the six senses we have, and allow myself more than than I am aware of currently. I learn a lot of lessons there. I learn new patience, new understanding. It's like I'm tapping into a larger consciousness. I also feel-scratch that-I know I am "out there" as well as my physical body being "here". There is another part of me out there that I can't feel attached to due to the limitations of the body.
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We are all energy. Connected; to everyone and everything. We exist on multidimensional levels. The only difference between the dimension are wavelengths. Your altered state(brainwaves not in the beta range) escaped your conditioning to this dimension - in which your dream construct holds the key to the past.

Atlantis and Lemuria are not legends. Some people also feel compelled to be in another part of the world of which they have no logical connection to. They are drawn to the energy vortices our ancestors left for us.
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I feel a connection like this to Peru. It started when I was a child watchign In Search Of with Leonard Nimoy... watched it with my Mom whenever it came on TV. As soon as I saw Macchu Picchu I knew I wanted/needed to visit there some day.
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i've only gotten to the etheric plane in my experiment with astral projection. ive seen beings on 2 occasion, both times they've seen me and disappeared into a light. i havent seen them since, that was years ago. i've been trying a lot harder lately.
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remote viewing has always fascinated me. i love reading about it. thanks for sharing!

also, do you think you or your husband could help me find my wallet? i know that sounds like a joke but i lost it on Sunday at around 5 pm and I may have left it at walmart....or somewhere in my house.

i will seriously pay you if you can rv it for me and I find it.

it's a black leather trifold fossil wallet. i'm in texas.
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So my husband and I are practicing -- he's much better at it than me.

Last night I was prompting him and he was describing what he saw.

He saw me, in a furniture store, probably 15 years from now, looking at some sort of book case. As I left the store, he looked around and got some snippets of information, including seeing the courthouse / city hall and some words from a window or sign outside of the store.

He saw:

Mount or MT
Station 26
'PIMS' or 'pims' or 'P.I.M.S.' (or something like it)

He also saw black pylons, 3 feet high, with black chain connecting them, like you might see around a town square somewhere.

Out of curiosity, we googled it...

It turns out that in Missoula, Montana (MT) that there is a small shopping center called Station 26. damned.

It is also fairly close to the Courthouse.

We didn't see any black pylons/chains on the google earth pictures, though admittedly those pictures are probably not current AND we also know that he was viewing sometime in the future.

He also saw me wearing his wedding ring on the thumb of my right hand.

Anyways, anyone else tried anything like this and gotten such good results? We decided that next time we try it, I should test him and try to get him to look at a place that I know about/have researched to see if he sees what I saw/is really there, etc.

He was wondering how he could have seen 'the future' and and I explained to him that all moments in time are 'in the now' and that the only reason we experience them linearly is because we are trapped in a meat body while we are here.

He has also been experiencing spontaneous OBEs while he's driving to work. He's concerned that this is dangerous (as am I, especially for other people on the road). Anyone with any information about this and why its happening now -- your comments would be appreciated. I told him I thought it could be due to stress, but I am not the one to ask. I don't have OBEs.
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you people are hillarious. Take your meds
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This is very methodical, thanks. I think I will try something like it tomorrow.

I'd ask for suggestions on places / events but then... maybe that would be putting too much out there in the ether!
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Give an example of what you would like to know.
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Well we've been so casual about what we're doing for so long (we have been doing this for years)... that I am afraid that making it too structured may 'break' it.

But my husband and I agree that I should 'set something up' just to see how close he gets (because he still doesn't quite believe its real).

Should I go for uber structured, uber vague like the poster above mentioned -- the way the military does it?

Or should I put some stuff in an evelope and then 'steer' him towards a date or place like I have been doing (more as a suggestion).

What should I use as a guide? Events from my past? Photos of my own or something online?
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i've only gotten to the etheric plane in my experiment with astral projection. ive seen beings on 2 occasion, both times they've seen me and disappeared into a light. i havent seen them since, that was years ago. i've been trying a lot harder lately.
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I have lucid dreams and message dreams.

I don't think I have ever astral projected (that I can remember) though I did once have a very strange experience with sleep paralysis that some people say is what happens when they are 'abducted' and other people say that is a misunderstanding and its what happens right before you pop out of your body. It only happened (like that) once, though.
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remote viewing has always fascinated me. i love reading about it. thanks for sharing!

also, do you think you or your husband could help me find my wallet? i know that sounds like a joke but i lost it on Sunday at around 5 pm and I may have left it at walmart....or somewhere in my house.

i will seriously pay you if you can rv it for me and I find it.

it's a black leather trifold fossil wallet. i'm in texas.
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I'm in Texas too. I guess we could try that. What city in Texas are you in?

BTW, we don't need payment. It would be fun to try :-)

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This isn't remote viewing it's just lying back, relaxing and imagining stuff. There are very precise techniques involved in remote viewing. The viewer should be given a set of numbers and that is all. These numbers will be chosen at random by the person acting as the control. The numbers should be written on an envelope prior to the viewer receiving them The number(s) act as an anchor for the viewer to focus on. Inside the envelope should be the subject matter the controllers wish to have viewed so it could just be a name, a place or a few newspaper clippings, anything, as long as it relates to the subject. This will be kept in a secret location and of course will not be revealed until the viewing is completed. Remember the only info the viewer has to go on is the number they have been given which is written on the envelope.

As for how the viewer then accesses the 'viewing' state, that's another issue which i won'treveal ;-)
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obviously because you dont know how
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This isn't remote viewing it's just lying back, relaxing and imagining stuff. There are very precise techniques involved in remote viewing. The viewer should be given a set of numbers and that is all. These numbers will be chosen at random by the person acting as the control. The numbers should be written on an envelope prior to the viewer receiving them The number(s) act as an anchor for the viewer to focus on. Inside the envelope should be the subject matter the controllers wish to have viewed so it could just be a name, a place or a few newspaper clippings, anything, as long as it relates to the subject. This will be kept in a secret location and of course will not be revealed until the viewing is completed. Remember the only info the viewer has to go on is the number they have been given which is written on the envelope.

As for how the viewer then accesses the 'viewing' state, that's another issue which i won'treveal ;-)
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obviously because you dont know how
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Well I expect there's more than one way to (skin a cat) remote view something.

Methodical works, obviously, if Ed Dames is to be believed. But I suspect that there are other ways to get to the same result, too.
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i've only gotten to the etheric plane in my experiment with astral projection. ive seen beings on 2 occasion, both times they've seen me and disappeared into a light. i havent seen them since, that was years ago. i've been trying a lot harder lately.
 Quoting: MDez13


I have lucid dreams and message dreams.

I don't think I have ever astral projected (that I can remember) though I did once have a very strange experience with sleep paralysis that some people say is what happens when they are 'abducted' and other people say that is a misunderstanding and its what happens right before you pop out of your body. It only happened (like that) once, though.
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thats cool. i was able to speak to them. when i was younger i was sharing a bedroom with my little brother. i saw 2 of them in the room, one walked over and was standing over him, i yelled 'get away from him' and they both looked at me and disappeared into a light.
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Well we've been so casual about what we're doing for so long (we have been doing this for years)... that I am afraid that making it too structured may 'break' it.

But my husband and I agree that I should 'set something up' just to see how close he gets (because he still doesn't quite believe its real).

Should I go for uber structured, uber vague like the poster above mentioned -- the way the military does it?

Or should I put some stuff in an evelope and then 'steer' him towards a date or place like I have been doing (more as a suggestion).

What should I use as a guide? Events from my past? Photos of my own or something online?
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You see to enjoy the randomness so you may want to use a target reference number(trn) Your hubby would not need to know what the actual tar­get or ques­tion is and the numbers would have nothing to do with the query itself, just think of it as a file number for the library. This library is limitless. Skip the envelope with suggestions because again - skewing results.

A number generator which can be found here (no affiliation with this site or their methodologies) [link to www.remoteviewing.com]
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One particularly interesting experience (to me) was at the request of my father-in-law I asked to see God. Neither of us have a dogmatic view, so I was open to anything. I should state first that my father had just recently passed away, and before my God request I asked to see him. I was "given" the knowledge that it was too soon. I remembered my father in law's request and sort of floated up my street and was taken under a tree. at this point I was not only lucid, but hyper aware. I could see a 360 degree view of my environment, the colors were brighter and everything was clearer and vibrant. A drop of dew fell on my leg and in that moment I saw and felt EVERYTHING..the whole spectrum of the human experience. it was so intense that I of course slammed back into my body, not feeling at all as though I were asleep..
 Quoting: DPoo


Know what you mean. Had that happen to me once, while taking out the trash. I suddenly 'understood' it all. Everything made sense; everything was 'according to Plan'. Then the moment passed & I forgot 'why' it all made sense but remembered that it DID make sense.
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Re: Remote Viewing Discussion -- future times / places / spontaneous OBEs
PIMS
Montana

got these links:

PIMS
Montana

[link to www.montana.edu]

PIMS
Montana
Know-fate data

[link to www.google.com]

Then I clicked on this one:

Interesting!!
[link to www.phidot.org]

In previous chapters, we’ve spent a considerable amount of time modeling situations where the
probability of encountering an individual is less than 1. However, there is at least one situation where
we do not have to model detection probability – known-fate data, so-called because we know the fate
of each marked animal with certainty. In other words, encounter probability is 1.0 (which must be
true if we know the fate of a marked individual with certainty). This situation typically arises when
individuals are radio-marked, although certain kinds of plant data can also be analyzed with the
known fate data type. In such cases, known-fate data are important because they provide a theory for
estimation of survival probability and other parameters (such as emigration). The focus of known fate
models is the estimation of survival probability S, the probability of surviving an interval between
sampling occasions. These are models where it can be assumed that the sampling probabilities are
1. That is, the status (dead or alive) of all tagged animals is known at each sampling occasion. For
this reason, precision is typically quite high, as precise as the binomial distribution allows, even in
cases where sample size is often fairly small. The only disadvantages might be the cost of radios and
possible effects of the radio on the animal or its behavior. The model is a product of simple binomial
likelihoods. Data on egg mortality in nests and studies of sessile organisms, such as mollusks, have
also been modeled as known fate data.
 Quoting: tandym


Maybe that is your safe spot. I sent for the course several weeks ago when Ed Dames was on Coast to coast, waiting for it to be delivered.