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GLOBAL March on Jerusalem Tomorrow (March 30, 2012)--Precursor to war? Prophecy unfolding?

 
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Is this even making main stream media news at all??

This is huge.....

it is a spark that could start ww3

no one seems to paying attention....

something is going to happen tomorrow....

something biblical.

I believe that the LORD will send down HIS grace down on the nation, just like it says in Zech. 12.

I, for one, will be praying for peace tomorrow.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


god has already cursed and rejected that imposter nation of israel.

are you really so stupid to think that that is gods nation?

even the true jewish people know its very existence is just bringing gods curse upon them.

wake up ffs...
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
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what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
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lol
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Is this even making main stream media news at all??

This is huge.....

it is a spark that could start ww3

no one seems to paying attention....

something is going to happen tomorrow....

something biblical.

I believe that the LORD will send down HIS grace down on the nation, just like it says in Zech. 12.

I, for one, will be praying for peace tomorrow.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


god has already cursed and rejected that imposter nation of israel.

are you really so stupid to think that that is gods nation?

even the true jewish people know its very existence is just bringing gods curse upon them.

wake up ffs...
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
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[link to www.timesofisrael.com]
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mark my words and remember this day...israel will not exist after 2012...the bible clearly says so...

this beast will be destroyed by Gods true chosen people...the muslims!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


Come this hour and be sent to hell, what are you waiting for?
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be patient...its unfolding as we speak. daniels prophecy will come to pass and this imposter israel will be destroyed then jesus returns..
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Agree with above..
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Lunatic muss cult......
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god has already cursed and rejected that imposter nation of israel.

are you really so stupid to think that that is gods nation?

even the true jewish people know its very existence is just bringing gods curse upon them.

wake up ffs...
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
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A zionist shill.
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"If you feel the conflict in the Middle East is about “Jewish settlements”, take a look at this picture."
:glm:

"The Muslims in Pakistan do not have any land claim in the Middle East. Still they want to walk to the city of Jewish King David, to remove Zionism from the face of the Earth."

Joel 3:2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

[link to ivarfjeld.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: KoFFee_




You do realize they are not the chosen people of god, right? Look up Messiach. That will tell you what isreal and the zionists are waiting for and what they have in mind for the arabs and the rest of the world. This is not part of God.
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The muslims are Gods chosen people, its history repeating all over again. just as when the jewish people "were" gods chosen and were being persecuted in egypt, well now its the muslims that are being persecuted.

but gods justice will fall on israel and america just as it did on pharoah...

you people (just as pharoahs people were)have been brainwashed into hating Gods true chosen people (the muslims) but your just too blind to see it.
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Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
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what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


A zionist shill.
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Shill ? Zionist? Your words are hollow.
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god has already cursed and rejected that imposter nation of israel.

are you really so stupid to think that that is gods nation?

even the true jewish people know its very existence is just bringing gods curse upon them.

wake up ffs...
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


are you so stupid to be talking to me personally? am i going to go and fight israel myself? who am i superman?

please grow a brain before getting involved in something that is above you!!!
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"If you feel the conflict in the Middle East is about “Jewish settlements”, take a look at this picture."
:glm:

"The Muslims in Pakistan do not have any land claim in the Middle East. Still they want to walk to the city of Jewish King David, to remove Zionism from the face of the Earth."

Joel 3:2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

[link to ivarfjeld.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: KoFFee_




You do realize they are not the chosen people of god, right? Look up Messiach. That will tell you what isreal and the zionists are waiting for and what they have in mind for the arabs and the rest of the world. This is not part of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13464182


The muslims are Gods chosen people, its history repeating all over again. just as when the jewish people "were" gods chosen and were being persecuted in egypt, well now its the muslims that are being persecuted.

but gods justice will fall on israel and america just as it did on pharoah...

you people (just as pharoahs people were)have been brainwashed into hating Gods true chosen people (the muslims) but your just too blind to see it.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


They are of no God! They are of Satan, Gods people do not kill those who do not enjoy their ways. The Koran is false.
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god has already cursed and rejected that imposter nation of israel.

are you really so stupid to think that that is gods nation?

even the true jewish people know its very existence is just bringing gods curse upon them.

wake up ffs...
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


lol
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


whats funny? thats the problem with you christians, you dont even know your own book yet you think you have all the answers...

go read daniel, its clear who israel is and who america is and its clear what the outcome will be.
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Then come today for your land, why do you wait?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


are you so stupid to be talking to me personally? am i going to go and fight israel myself? who am i superman?

please grow a brain before getting involved in something that is above you!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I fight, you speak hollow words.
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"If you feel the conflict in the Middle East is about “Jewish settlements”, take a look at this picture."
:glm:

"The Muslims in Pakistan do not have any land claim in the Middle East. Still they want to walk to the city of Jewish King David, to remove Zionism from the face of the Earth."

Joel 3:2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

[link to ivarfjeld.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: KoFFee_




You do realize they are not the chosen people of god, right? Look up Messiach. That will tell you what isreal and the zionists are waiting for and what they have in mind for the arabs and the rest of the world. This is not part of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13464182


The muslims are Gods chosen people, its history repeating all over again. just as when the jewish people "were" gods chosen and were being persecuted in egypt, well now its the muslims that are being persecuted.

but gods justice will fall on israel and america just as it did on pharoah...

you people (just as pharoahs people were)have been brainwashed into hating Gods true chosen people (the muslims) but your just too blind to see it.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


They are of no God! They are of Satan, Gods people do not kill those who do not enjoy their ways. The Koran is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


these are the words of a fool. you dont know anything about what you are talking about, and you are just choosing to believe what other people tell you.

the Quran is the greatest miracle ever sent to the earth but you refuse to see it.

When the jewish people killed jesus, that was the last straw and God took the revelation from them and gave it to the arabs EXACTLY AS THE BIBLE SAID HE WOULD!!!.

so now the muslims are the trustees of gods message and you people are destroying them...

you must know that even if you support the true satanic forces (the west) then you will be judged along side them.

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"If you feel the conflict in the Middle East is about “Jewish settlements”, take a look at this picture."
:glm:

"The Muslims in Pakistan do not have any land claim in the Middle East. Still they want to walk to the city of Jewish King David, to remove Zionism from the face of the Earth."

Joel 3:2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

[link to ivarfjeld.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: KoFFee_




You do realize they are not the chosen people of god, right? Look up Messiach. That will tell you what isreal and the zionists are waiting for and what they have in mind for the arabs and the rest of the world. This is not part of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13464182


The muslims are Gods chosen people, its history repeating all over again. just as when the jewish people "were" gods chosen and were being persecuted in egypt, well now its the muslims that are being persecuted.

but gods justice will fall on israel and america just as it did on pharoah...

you people (just as pharoahs people were)have been brainwashed into hating Gods true chosen people (the muslims) but your just too blind to see it.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


They are of no God! They are of Satan, Gods people do not kill those who do not enjoy their ways. The Koran is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


How many here have read the talmud and know what the messiach is? The talmud says horrible things about jesus and the zionists are waiting for the messiach to come and rise israel up and commit war and force their religion on the world in the name of their god.
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what do you think this thread is about? this is the beginning...of the end for israel!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


are you so stupid to be talking to me personally? am i going to go and fight israel myself? who am i superman?

please grow a brain before getting involved in something that is above you!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I fight, you speak hollow words.
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you are nothing but a keyboard warrior! you could be anyone so whos words are hollow?

the joke is on you!!!

my words have meaning and are based on the revealed words of God.
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You do realize they are not the chosen people of god, right? Look up Messiach. That will tell you what isreal and the zionists are waiting for and what they have in mind for the arabs and the rest of the world. This is not part of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13464182


The muslims are Gods chosen people, its history repeating all over again. just as when the jewish people "were" gods chosen and were being persecuted in egypt, well now its the muslims that are being persecuted.

but gods justice will fall on israel and america just as it did on pharoah...

you people (just as pharoahs people were)have been brainwashed into hating Gods true chosen people (the muslims) but your just too blind to see it.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


They are of no God! They are of Satan, Gods people do not kill those who do not enjoy their ways. The Koran is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


these are the words of a fool. you dont know anything about what you are talking about, and you are just choosing to believe what other people tell you.

the Quran is the gretaest miracle ever sent to the earth but you refuse to see it.

When the jewish people killed jesus, that was the last straw and God took the revelation from them and gave it to the arabs EXACTLY AS THE BIBLE SAID HE WOULD!!!.

so now the muslims are the trustees of gods message and you people are destroying them...

you must know that even if you support the true satanic forces (the west) then you will be judged along side them.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


The Koran is false written by man, This is perhaps your final year of deceit. You will be shown no mercy for the actions you support!
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I laugh at your words. Are you afraid? Come now, this is not a long process, an amazing scheme is not needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


are you so stupid to be talking to me personally? am i going to go and fight israel myself? who am i superman?

please grow a brain before getting involved in something that is above you!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I fight, you speak hollow words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


you are nothing but a keyboard warrior! you could be anyone so whos words are hollow?

the joke is on you!!!

my words have meaning and are based on the revealed words of God.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


There is no joke here.
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The muslims are Gods chosen people, its history repeating all over again. just as when the jewish people "were" gods chosen and were being persecuted in egypt, well now its the muslims that are being persecuted.

but gods justice will fall on israel and america just as it did on pharoah...

you people (just as pharoahs people were)have been brainwashed into hating Gods true chosen people (the muslims) but your just too blind to see it.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


They are of no God! They are of Satan, Gods people do not kill those who do not enjoy their ways. The Koran is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


these are the words of a fool. you dont know anything about what you are talking about, and you are just choosing to believe what other people tell you.

the Quran is the gretaest miracle ever sent to the earth but you refuse to see it.

When the jewish people killed jesus, that was the last straw and God took the revelation from them and gave it to the arabs EXACTLY AS THE BIBLE SAID HE WOULD!!!.

so now the muslims are the trustees of gods message and you people are destroying them...

you must know that even if you support the true satanic forces (the west) then you will be judged along side them.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


The Koran is false written by man, This is perhaps your final year of deceit. You will be shown no mercy for the actions you support!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


then i challenge you to read these sites...

[link to www.quranmiracles.com]

then still disbelieve...

here is just one verse that proves 100% the quran is true from God...

021.030 Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
the big bang described perfectly 1432 years ago...only 50 years ago did we know this!!!

and all life forms created from water...

that is 1 of 1000 scientific verses in quran that clearly proves it could only be from God...

read www.submission.org for the unimaginable 19 miracle...

its for your own good!
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are you so stupid to be talking to me personally? am i going to go and fight israel myself? who am i superman?

please grow a brain before getting involved in something that is above you!!!
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


I fight, you speak hollow words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460899


you are nothing but a keyboard warrior! you could be anyone so whos words are hollow?

the joke is on you!!!

my words have meaning and are based on the revealed words of God.
 Quoting: *The Gatekeeper*


There is no joke here.
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Your threats are moot. The jewish people did not except Jesus as the Messiah and they are waiting for the Messiach. They are waiting for a flesh and blood man to help them go into battle against anyone that does not believe in their religion.
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The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
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Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
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Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
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Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
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why do you people always conviently forget to put the preeceeding verse? 2:191?????

002.190 Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.

002.191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

002.192 But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

fight those that fight you...

try again!!!
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Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
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Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."
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Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad (Arabic).