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100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.

 
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100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Regardless of what one side says or the other side says...

One must shut out all the emotion and agendas and focus on just the facts.

Here is the one blindly obvious fact that no one has noticed. The one fact that actually incriminates Treyvon and make George Zimmerman somewhat a hero.

Here it is..........

Treyvon Martin was shot right next to George Zimmermans car.

So George Zimmerman DID walk back to his car and Treyvon Martin did approach him.

We know GZ parked his car to follow TM on foot. So GZ HAD TO HAVE turned around to leave. TM HAD TO HAVE followed GZ back to his car.

There is simply no other explanation that makes sense. None.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
didn't zimmerman follow him in his truck at one point?

If he was RIGHT next to his truck, you'd think he'd be smart and get in and go rather than shoot and murder somebody, the shooting was a choice or a very poor reaction.

Zimmerman was pursuing against direction and he wanted to be the "hero", but so far it seems like he's a murderer.

With all the 911 calls within the year, you'd think Zimmerman was that crazy neighbor that everyone wants to move away from. Like the asshole that looks out their window with nothing better to do, waiting for the ball to fall on their lawn.

Sorry man, the law is gray because it comes down to whether zimmerman felt his life was threatened. But that is stupid because threat is always subjective and some people have very low thresholds.

If Zimmerman gets off, people should just be able to walk around the streets and shoot each other because they're insecure and afraid.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
I have been saying that since day 1. When the dispatcher advises George not to follow he says ok and walks back to his car when trey approaches him. Thats when the kid knocked him down and started slamming his head. That is the evidence/facts that i see. It seems George's story holds up. I hope they arrest him so the facts come out in court.

I am George Zimmerman. ,come and get me new black panthers. I got ur 10k right here. You are a disgrace to your race.
To each is own...
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
I have been saying that since day 1. When the dispatcher advises George not to follow he says ok and walks back to his car when trey approaches him. Thats when the kid knocked him down and started slamming his head. That is the evidence/facts that i see. It seems George's story holds up. I hope they arrest him so the facts come out in court.

I am George Zimmerman. ,come and get me new black panthers. I got ur 10k right here. You are a disgrace to your race.
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Wrong. He did not quit following.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
just hang zimmerman and move on.....easy peasy


someone has gotta hang
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
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1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
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we should all do exactly as directed



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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


Honestly, it seems your Number 2 should be good enough, #1 should be irrelevant.

Think about it (not you because you get it, but OP), when you call 911 you are calling emergency services.

When that young woman (17?) with her child had that guy break into her house, 911 told her to do what she had to do to protect herself and her child and she shot and killed the intruder. That is grade A acceptable in my book.

In THIS case, 911 told Zimmerman that they will handle it and he just ignored their direction. 911 isn't always right, but in this case I really believe they were. He was far enough away (and with a vehicle) to be out of danger. He put HIMSELF in danger.

Zimmerman thought 911 was wrong, so he pursued. PURSUED, against the DIRECTION of emergency services.

GUILTY, no matter how you cut it. IF they found Trayvon armed, then I it would be different.

This was a shoot first, ask questions later scenario.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Trayvon and his Daddy were "Just visiting" in this controlled access community?

Wonder if the cops will ever visit the girl-friends house as part of the investigation?

Trayvon was out after curfew? Walking between houses?

Witness says GZ was down and Trayvon was hitting him?

This Mainstream Media Crap is just meant to inflame the Blacks.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Why don't people just use tazers?

Heck, we don't even need guns anymore. Tazers are cheap and you can electrify millions of watts into a persons organs very quickly.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


he had every right to walk the streets and sidewalks and talk to whoever he wanted to.
Nothing in the BoR about blacks demanding wite debbils off the streets when they walk, although they'd like that.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
He could have dragged him to his car by his hoodie, and then put a cap in his ass.

Gnome sayin Mugga Fugga!
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
I have been saying that since day 1. When the dispatcher advises George not to follow he says ok and walks back to his car when trey approaches him. Thats when the kid knocked him down and started slamming his head. That is the evidence/facts that i see. It seems George's story holds up. I hope they arrest him so the facts come out in court.

I am George Zimmerman. ,come and get me new black panthers. I got ur 10k right here. You are a disgrace to your race.
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Wrong. He did not quit following.
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How do you now he did'nt quit following were you hidung in the bushes?

Or are you just talking out your arse.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
The only fact that will come of this is that no one will ever know the truth. EVER. Just like OJ.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Surly Treyvon's hands will be evidence (busted knuckles?).
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


1) Pics show a gash in the back of his head. Paramedics had already cleaned up the blood, and he was wearing a red shirt, which hid any other blood spatters.

2) The dispatcher never told him to quit following Treyvon. But when he was told it was no longer necessary, he quit on his own and walked back to his car.

Anything else beyond these things is even more convincing. Especially:

BOTH Treyvon AND Zimmerman were on the phone, and they BOTH said that they lost each other.

At that point it is over, except that Zimmerman did NOT know where Treyvon was, but Treyvon knew where Zimmerman was. That's why when the dispatcher asked Zimmerman his address, he whispered it, and told her he didn't know where Treyvon was (i.e. if he could hear him telling his address).

At that point, it was over. Zimmerman couldn't attack Treyvon even if he wanted to, because he didn't know where he was.

That's why it is 100% certain that Treyvon jumped Zimmerman - because Treyvon was the only one who could have attacked, because Zimmerman didn't know where Treyvon was.

Period.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Regardless of what one side says or the other side says...

One must shut out all the emotion and agendas and focus on just the facts.

Here is the one blindly obvious fact that no one has noticed. The one fact that actually incriminates Treyvon and make George Zimmerman somewhat a hero.

Here it is..........

Treyvon Martin was shot right next to George Zimmermans car.

So George Zimmerman DID walk back to his car and Treyvon Martin did approach him.

We know GZ parked his car to follow TM on foot. So GZ HAD TO HAVE turned around to leave. TM HAD TO HAVE followed GZ back to his car.

There is simply no other explanation that makes sense. None.
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That's where some people get into trouble. They think they have it all figured out, and refuse to believe there's anything else that could have happened. Many innocent people are in prison and death row due to these assumptions.

Don't go into Law. You'd make a horrible attorney.

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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


Honestly, it seems your Number 2 should be good enough, #1 should be irrelevant.

Think about it (not you because you get it, but OP), when you call 911 you are calling emergency services.

When that young woman (17?) with her child had that guy break into her house, 911 told her to do what she had to do to protect herself and her child and she shot and killed the intruder. That is grade A acceptable in my book.

In THIS case, 911 told Zimmerman that they will handle it and he just ignored their direction. 911 isn't always right, but in this case I really believe they were. He was far enough away (and with a vehicle) to be out of danger. He put HIMSELF in danger.

Zimmerman thought 911 was wrong, so he pursued. PURSUED, against the DIRECTION of emergency services.

GUILTY, no matter how you cut it. IF they found Trayvon armed, then I it would be different.

This was a shoot first, ask questions later scenario.
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It is not murder to fail to follow police instructions. If you don't follow those instructions and find yourself under attack, you are still entitled to self-defense.

You are always entitled to self-defense.

The police instructions were right. If he's followed them, there would have been no fight and no possible need for anyone to die. The police are right to try to calm things down. That doesn't mean that if tshtf, self-defense isn't appropriate.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


1.) Pics are inconclusive AT BEST, He was treated by ambulance BEFORE going to the jail
2.) The dispatcher said "you don't have to do that". There is a big difference.

You wouldnt make past 1st semester of pre-law.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Dispatchers do not have badges, guns or the authority an officer does.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
what fool believes that a "red jacket" is gonna hide all the blood that would splatter on you after you shot someone point blank range?

let alone hide blood that has dripped down your clothing from a broken nose!

Zimmerman is going down for manslaughter at the least even though it was pre-meditated MURDER!
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Because Al Sharpton says so.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Heres another overlooked fact; he was trespassing in a gated community!
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Heres another overlooked fact; he was trespassing in a gated community!
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Sentence = Death?

Bit over the top don't ya think
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


we should all do exactly as directed



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Trayvon was murdered for not doing as he was directed by some strange man with a gun.

Why does Trayvon not have the same right to self-defense?
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Heres another overlooked fact; he was trespassing in a gated community!
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Looks like anyone who chooses to comment on something would at least bother to be somewhat informed of the known circumstances.

Hardly overlooked or fact.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
Nor did the shooting occur anywhere near Zimmerman's car, this entire thread is crap.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


1) Pics show a gash in the back of his head. Paramedics had already cleaned up the blood, and he was wearing a red shirt, which hid any other blood spatters.

2) The dispatcher never told him to quit following Treyvon. But when he was told it was no longer necessary, he quit on his own and walked back to his car.

Anything else beyond these things is even more convincing. Especially:

BOTH Treyvon AND Zimmerman were on the phone, and they BOTH said that they lost each other.

At that point it is over, except that Zimmerman did NOT know where Treyvon was, but Treyvon knew where Zimmerman was. That's why when the dispatcher asked Zimmerman his address, he whispered it, and told her he didn't know where Treyvon was (i.e. if he could hear him telling his address).

At that point, it was over. Zimmerman couldn't attack Treyvon even if he wanted to, because he didn't know where he was.

That's why it is 100% certain that Treyvon jumped Zimmerman - because Treyvon was the only one who could have attacked, because Zimmerman didn't know where Treyvon was.

Period.
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So the cops took off his red shirt and gave him a gray one? And magically fixed his nose so it wasn't broken or bloody (as the police surveillance video in the police station shows, which has been shown on Fox and CNN)?
Please quit justifying the fact that this Hispanic man shot and killed an unarmed Black kid.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


1.) Pics are inconclusive AT BEST, He was treated by ambulance BEFORE going to the jail
2.) The dispatcher said "you don't have to do that". There is a big difference.

You wouldnt make past 1st semester of pre-law.
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Please quit leaving out info: she told him to QUIT following him, you don't have to do that we have it covered. End of story.
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Re: 100% undeniable proof that Treyvon attacked George Zimmerman, so obvious, no one thought of it.
1) Pics from jail show zimmerman with NO injuries or blood.
2) He should have quit following Treyvon the minute the dispatcher told him to quit following.

Anything else beyond that is trivial.
 Quoting: Leda123


If you think determining guilt or innocence is trivial. Where, when, and how he actually pulled the trigger make the difference between self-defense, some kind of negligent homicide, manslaughter, or full on murder. It's pretty important really...
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This never happened.

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