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DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets

 
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DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Are't there about 450 Million people in the US?

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"We've also learned that the Department has an open bid for a stockpile of rifle ammo. Listed on the federal business opportunities network, they're looking for up to 175 million rounds of .223 caliber ammo to be exact. The .223 is almost exactly the same round used by NATO forces, the 5.56 x 45mm."


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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Rumor is they are buying up all available rounds. None for public consumption.
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03/29/2012 11:08 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Thanks for 5 *!

This is big and Just another brick in the wall.
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03/29/2012 11:10 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Luckily my pistols are both .45acp... rifles are 7.62x54R, .22LR, and .300 Win Mag...
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03/29/2012 11:24 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
routine training ammo
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
routine training ammo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13490691


Seriously?

cruise

LOL

Yeah, let's see.

DHS

Can you ship me 50 Tons of ammo for some special training exercises we have going on this year.
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03/29/2012 11:35 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
routine training ammo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13490691


Seriously?

cruise

LOL

Yeah, let's see.

DHS

Can you ship me 50 Tons of ammo for some special training exercises we have going on this year.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


That'd be a shit ton of training... lol.
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Luckily my pistols are both .45acp... rifles are 7.62x54R, .22LR, and .300 Win Mag...
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Yes an assortment is good.
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
routine training ammo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13490691


Seriously?

cruise

LOL

Yeah, let's see.

DHS

Can you ship me 50 Tons of ammo for some special training exercises we have going on this year.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


That'd be a shit ton of training... lol.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


LOL

Sorry, at 3.56 Lbs per 100 rounds of .40 cal, that's 8010 Tons of 40 round ammo!!

Yes eight thousand and ten TONS.
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03/29/2012 11:41 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
These are hollow points, to be used inside US
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03/29/2012 11:41 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
These are hollow points, to be used inside US
 Quoting: palladin


clappa

BINGO

"The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."


This isn't the cheep shit.
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03/29/2012 11:44 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
For when they arm Barry's "New Civilian Army" for the upcoming race war.
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03/29/2012 11:44 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
I'll bet the public has more......
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
routine training ammo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13490691


Seriously?

cruise

LOL

Yeah, let's see.

DHS

Can you ship me 50 Tons of ammo for some special training exercises we have going on this year.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


That'd be a shit ton of training... lol.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


LOL

Sorry, at 3.56 Lbs per 100 rounds of .40 cal, that's 8010 Tons of 40 round ammo!!

Yes eight thousand and ten TONS.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


I didn't know DHS used .40 cal. I thought they were still using 9mm's.
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Seriously?

cruise

LOL

Yeah, let's see.

DHS

Can you ship me 50 Tons of ammo for some special training exercises we have going on this year.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


That'd be a shit ton of training... lol.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


LOL

Sorry, at 3.56 Lbs per 100 rounds of .40 cal, that's 8010 Tons of 40 round ammo!!

Yes eight thousand and ten TONS.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


I didn't know DHS used .40 cal. I thought they were still using 9mm's.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


That is interesting isn't it. Moving to a larger round.
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03/29/2012 11:48 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
keep in mind, this is just one branch of gov, DHS

you've also got FBI, CIA, DOD, Secret Service etc.

over 8000 tons for DHS
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03/29/2012 11:49 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Not necessarily for pistols, there are .40 cal carbines out there too.
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
For when they arm Barry's "New Civilian Army" for the upcoming race war.
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Maybe

I'll bet the public has more......
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
they're going to practice with this expensive ammo?????
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03/29/2012 11:51 PM
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That'd be a shit ton of training... lol.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


LOL

Sorry, at 3.56 Lbs per 100 rounds of .40 cal, that's 8010 Tons of 40 round ammo!!

Yes eight thousand and ten TONS.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


I didn't know DHS used .40 cal. I thought they were still using 9mm's.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


That is interesting isn't it. Moving to a larger round.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


the .40 S&W round is a good round. More stopping power than a 9mm but not as likely to pass through the target and hit bystanders like a .45acp.

A lot of police dept's use the .40 S&W now... just didn't think the gov't had moved to it.

I've got about 300 rounds of .45acp... thinking now that maybe I should get a bunch more before the gov't decides they like .45acp too.
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
they're going to practice with this expensive ammo?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765


These are shoot to kill rounds.
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03/29/2012 11:51 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Current US population = 313 million.
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LOL

Sorry, at 3.56 Lbs per 100 rounds of .40 cal, that's 8010 Tons of 40 round ammo!!

Yes eight thousand and ten TONS.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


I didn't know DHS used .40 cal. I thought they were still using 9mm's.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


That is interesting isn't it. Moving to a larger round.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


the .40 S&W round is a good round. More stopping power than a 9mm but not as likely to pass through the target and hit bystanders like a .45acp.

A lot of police dept's use the .40 S&W now... just didn't think the gov't had moved to it.

I've got about 300 rounds of .45acp... thinking now that maybe I should get a bunch more before the gov't decides they like .45acp too.
 Quoting: Roentgen®



Yes a .40 hollow point doesn't have the best stopping power of available rounds such as the 45 but it is deadly once inside.
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
they're going to practice with this expensive ammo?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765


These are shoot to kill rounds.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


so they're going to buy a million tons of FMJ for practice?
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Are't there about 450 Million people in the US?

Also

"We've also learned that the Department has an open bid for a stockpile of rifle ammo. Listed on the federal business opportunities network, they're looking for up to 175 million rounds of .223 caliber ammo to be exact. The .223 is almost exactly the same round used by NATO forces, the 5.56 x 45mm."


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 Quoting: N3m3s1s


Only 311 million according to the latest census (not including illegals).

They most not be skilled snipers ordering 450 million. lol
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03/29/2012 11:56 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Current US population = 313 million.
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wonder how many will survive this mess?
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03/29/2012 11:56 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
.40 cal hollow points - that's the type of round you would use in close quarters when conducting raid or such.
Maybe the NDAA roundups are bout to start.
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03/29/2012 11:57 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Only 2350 TONS of .223 though.

Whew, I feel better now.
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03/29/2012 11:59 PM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Only 235 TONS of .223 though.

Whew, I feel better now.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


Oh is that all? Well, I'll sleep better now.

lol.
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03/30/2012 12:01 AM
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Only 235 TONS of .223 though.

Whew, I feel better now.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


Oh is that all? Well, I'll sleep better now.

lol.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


EDIT

Misplaced a decimal point. 2350 TONS
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Re: DHS Purchasing 450 MILLION .40 Cal bullets
Weight per 100 rounds are here.

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