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my son gets kicked out of school May 1st, for not having chicken pox vaccine

 
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It the schools right to say we WONT let your child come in and give chicken pox to the other children.
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^THIS^ You have your right as a parent not to vaccinate, but you have NO right to potentially expose the rest of the children at school to any disease. Vaccines are not 100% effective, so even vaccinated children could be susceptible. If you don't want to vaccinate, that's your decision, but don't expect the public schools to change the rules for you. If you feel so strongly about it, homeschool.
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If you feel your children are still vulnerable even after vaccination then maybe you shouldn't let them out in public. There are a lot of people carrying all sorts of viruses outside of school that they could catch. You can't keep them in a bubble. And they would be better off getting chicken pox then getting it later on. I believe these viruses will find their way around vaccines anyway and then the public will really have a monster on their hands. Viruses adapt and mutate and you can't outsmart them. Better to just build up your child's immune system and let them catch some childhood illnesses.
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First of all, you clearly do not understand how the immune system and vaccines work. The vast majority of credible medical research supports vaccines whether you choose to accept it or not.

Second, I could use your same argument and say that you and all the other non-vaxers should keep your potentially disease-infected kids out of public, but that would sound just as ridiculous as your argument.
The fact is there has to be a compromise. Vaccines are not compulsory, but they are in order for your children to attend public school. This way you rights to withold vaccinations are upheld, and my rights to protect my children via vaccination, and maintain that protection via the herd immunity that should be guranteed in public schools, are also upheld. It is the only fair solution.
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And I know how viruses work. Polio is still around but goes by different names now. The vaccine didn't work but you won't be told about that. Do some research. And there is more but it is just the tip of the iceberg. It is a very big industry and it is all about the money. Not your health. If it were about our health they wouldn't be poisoning us with fluoride in our water and aspartame in our food as well as heavy metals in those vaccines. Autism is skyrocketing because of vaccines. Do some research on that.

And we have a right as parents not to vaccinate and still have our children out in public and in the public schools if we choose. That is the freedom we still have. So vaccinate if you think it helps but it is doing more harm than good.
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Re: my son gets kicked out of school May 1st, for not having chicken pox vaccine
Lets assume you have a kid who hasnt been vaccinated, is oh age 12 at school and a kid with chickenpox comes in and spreads the virus all over the place.

You kids picks it up, carries it in hand, or on some object back home to you and your new born baby. He may not present with symptoms, but he is a carrier.

He touches that baby - bang, your baby is now on the road to potential death.

Worse, you take him to the store right after school and he touches a grocery cart that you ain't using. However the next person i is a mother with a bouncing baby boy of just one month old. She loveingly places the child and carrier in the cart, puts her hand on the handle of the cart, baby fusses, she reaches out and loving strokes his cheek to calm him.

BANG - he is infected.

Ever see an infant with chicken pox? [link to www.google.com]

An infant 2 months or younger has a very weak immune system that is still developing. Up to 9 months after birth minor things like colds and flu can be a death sentence. Major things like measles, mumps, chickenpox can be a death sentence up to two years old.

Its not so much the other kids at school they worry about, its all of the unknown people that those kids come in contact with, such as infant siblings.
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I agree with you that babies are in need of special care--so with your own logic you wouldn't want your baby to get a vaccination that their undeveloped immune system might not be able to handle!!
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You need to let your son have his vaccine. Withholding vaccinations from your children is child abuse pure and simple.
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you are a complete asshat
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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It the schools right to say we WONT let your child come in and give chicken pox to the other children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13232653


^THIS^ You have your right as a parent not to vaccinate, but you have NO right to potentially expose the rest of the children at school to any disease. Vaccines are not 100% effective, so even vaccinated children could be susceptible. If you don't want to vaccinate, that's your decision, but don't expect the public schools to change the rules for you. If you feel so strongly about it, homeschool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you feel your children are still vulnerable even after vaccination then maybe you shouldn't let them out in public. There are a lot of people carrying all sorts of viruses outside of school that they could catch. You can't keep them in a bubble. And they would be better off getting chicken pox then getting it later on. I believe these viruses will find their way around vaccines anyway and then the public will really have a monster on their hands. Viruses adapt and mutate and you can't outsmart them. Better to just build up your child's immune system and let them catch some childhood illnesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


First of all, you clearly do not understand how the immune system and vaccines work. The vast majority of credible medical research supports vaccines whether you choose to accept it or not.

Second, I could use your same argument and say that you and all the other non-vaxers should keep your potentially disease-infected kids out of public, but that would sound just as ridiculous as your argument.
The fact is there has to be a compromise. Vaccines are not compulsory, but they are in order for your children to attend public school. This way you rights to withold vaccinations are upheld, and my rights to protect my children via vaccination, and maintain that protection via the herd immunity that should be guranteed in public schools, are also upheld. It is the only fair solution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


The vast majority of credible medical research is paid by "Big Pharma". Same with funding at medical school--billions and billions of dollars. Do you thing medical researchers just research what they feel like/ Try to get funding for any medical research--the rabbit hole is deep indeed.hfhfhf
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And shame on all of you parents with your exemption forms. You have the right to withhold vaccines from your children, but you have no right to impose your decision on the rest of us, which is essentially what you are doing by not vaccinating and sending your children to public schools. Like I have said before, not all children can be vaccinated, and vaccines are NOt 100% effective, so your children could in fact infect other public school children with diseases. You have no right to endanger other people's children. If you don't want to vaccinate, that is your right as a parent, but you should homeschool your children so as not to infringe on MY children's rights to be protected at school from the diseases your children could have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


you need to read the original Jenner debates by the Royal Society of Medicine. Not at all what is presented my modern pharma shills. As for the smallpox inoculation program the House of Lords agreed to - the death rate was ten times higher after they innoculated. Nothing said about that in modern literature.
Bottom line is you don't have a clue about the filthy practice
of innoculation. Do your homework and read before spouting off.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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public schools are so annoying.only 4 years left of there bs,of course unless the fiat dollar falls,and jp morgan,chase ect all get arrested,who knows.
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Here is a little scenario to think about.

Children in Alabama are required to get their boosters before starting Freshman year. I was not awake at this period in time so like a dutiful parent, I made sure he had his boosters and the updated Blue card was turned in before he started for the year.

2 months in to the school year I was notified by school that he had not had his boosters. I went to school to discuss this with the counselor only to find that his Blue card had disappeared. I refused to have his boosters done a 2nd time.

I discussed this with several other parents only to find out that most of the young mens Blue cards had vanished into thin air, requiring our sons to be vaccinated once again. We all refused and removed our young men from the public school system.

Misplacing one Blue Immunization card I can understand but misplacing 22????
I'm still scratching my head over that one.

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OP what state do you live in? Mine does not require vaccinations, thankfully. Usually you can opt out for religious reasons at least, and you are not required to, nor should you, disclose what that religion is.

A lot of ignorant people on this thread. A) If others are vaccinated, shouldn't they be protected from any others who may not be? And if not, are you essentially admitting the risk of vaccine injury is even greater, taking into account that they don't even work that well? B) If you can read, and also understand basic virology, this kid has already HAD chicken pox therefore he has lifelong immunity, therefore he cannot carry and pass the virus onto others. Duh.

OP, perhaps you can get his titers tested and take that as proof he has already had the virus and therefore does not need the vaccination. Good luck. Scary stuff what is happening with these forced poisons.

One last thing, all of you piping in about child abuse need to STFU or go get yourself caught up on the current vax schedule, otherwise you, too, are walking viruses (lol). You have about 30 doses to get caught up, or STFU.
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lol, thank you. I did fill out the religious exemption form years ago and it seems to have worked until now. Not sure what they have going on this year. I am in Pennsylvania.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


Same in PA. Filled out the religious exemption, because I did not want my son vaccinated for pertussis. I did all else but they were going to kick him out of school in third grade. So I did the religious exception. I also did not allow my daughter to get the gardasil vaccine and I am really glad that I did that.

Good luck OP.
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I find it amazing that none of the vaccine loving people on this thread actually read the very first posting. Sometimes I read the first and last page, and skip some in the middle. But I always read the first story.

If you vaccine loving people had read the first story, then you would know that HER SON HAS ALREADY HAD THE CHICKENPOX AND IS NOW IMMUNE!!! Sorry about the shouting, but that's a fact. Unless he has a messed up immune system, he will never get or pass on the chicken pox.

What logical reason can anyone give to give a chicken pox vaccine to someone who is already immune?
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I see all these people arguging about 'whether you should vaccinate your 12 year old or not." AT 12 ITS HIS CHOICE... NOT YOURS
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You need to let your son have his vaccine. Withholding vaccinations from your children is child abuse pure and simple.
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So say the merchants of these vials of ineffective, filthy garbage.

Giving a child an alleged vaccine is child abuse plain and simple.
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The anti-vaccination camp are always uneducated morans who are incapable to making rational judgements.

Really, any parent who subjects their child to the potential for terrible harm, just to feed into their own delusional fantasies is a danger and should be kept away from children.
(quote is not quoting - or it hasn't so far even though I've edited and it seems fine)

Not so. We are often people who have thoroughly studied the issue of vaccines after a bitter experience gave us the incentive.

And vaccines are just a money spinner for the manufacturers, who get a customer for life when the side effects don't kill them.

Governments are pleased with vacs as well because a sick populace is easier to control.

If you really think as you say, then you're the second person I've 'met' tonight who simply parrots-off the media lies on cue.

Pitiful.

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There is no law that says you have to vaccinate your kid.
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Your son will be better off if you let them kick him out and then home school him for a more rounded education. They can't fuss at your homeschooling because they are the ones who kicked him out. Lobby for school vouchers and send him to a private school where he will also get a better education. This may offer a blessing in disguise leading to better things. Congratulations for bring it to public attention because for far too long, too many of us have been silent to erroding freedom, disguised as "for the common good." Stealing our freedom needs to be reversed.
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didn't yall know humans are the only organisms on this planet that need vaccines to survive....hahaha you also need to buy health insurance... lol
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You need to let your son have his vaccine. Withholding vaccinations from your children is child abuse pure and simple.
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It's redundant. The vaccine only injects a dead disease. The kid's already had the live one, and so he will have already developed the immunisation for it.

I had chickenpox. I lived. Haven't ever caught chickenpox since. And no vaccine for it. So that's just scare-mongering.
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It the schools right to say we WONT let your child come in and give chicken pox to the other children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13232653


When I had chicken pox the whole school didn't come down with it.

Silliness....

Vaccines are hazardous to one's health.
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It the schools right to say we WONT let your child come in and give chicken pox to the other children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13232653


When I had chicken pox the whole school didn't come down with it.

Silliness....

Vaccines are hazardous to one's health.
 Quoting: calin


When I got it in high school only one other girl had it. I had most likely got it from her but we were never around each other. No one else out of thousands got it in my school. Not even my closest friends and boyfriend. This was in the 80's. Chicken pox is not a big deal.
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In my state the only thing they do is if there is an outbreak your child cannot go to school.

I don't understand why your school board is insisting on a second vaccination when you son had one and has had the chicken pox.

I wish you luck in your battle.
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This^^^
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It the schools right to say we WONT let your child come in and give chicken pox to the other children.
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Really? What if your religious beliefs were against all or unnessary vaccinations. If a child does not get the virus as a youngster...there are increased risk of getting shingles as an adult.
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I just wanted to share with you a similar situation I had with my own son many years ago, and how I dealt with it.

When my son was a little guy (he's 20 now) he had a seizure a few hours after receiving a MMR vaccine when a fever spiked very quickly. He literally went from 'fine' one moment into a grand mal the next.

911 was called, an ambulance trip to ER, and a battery of tests ruled out any of the 'typical' causes, so by process of elimination, his many doctors said that the MMR vaccine was the likely cause.

Our local health dept was contacted and a file was opened concerning this incident. After lots of questions/answers, they tracked the vaccines. As a precaution, the entire lot was recalled, and a memo went out to doctors and clinics to be on the look out in case there were any more cases from the vaccines that may have already been given.

(to my knowledge, there were none)

In the end, the seizure was blamed on the FEVER and not the vaccine itself. But because of my concerns of a repeat seizure, I refused any additional MMR vaccines be given to him. The doctors understood my concerns, and agreed with me.

When he started school a few years later, a letter from his doctor was all that was needed, and he was made exempt from the MMR requirements.

When he was a sophmore in high school, the school nurse had called telling me that there was a confirmed case of mumps at the school. Being aware of his exempt status due to the seizure, she advised me to keep him home for 3 days to limit his exposure, which I did.

Never once during his schooling did I ever feel pressured by the school district or his doctors to complete the MMR series. In fact, the response I received was quite the opposite.

Perhaps you can call/visit your son's doctor and ask them to contact the school on your (his) behalf? Write a letter or something?

Best wishes to you and your son hf
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There are so many stupid responses in this thread its mind numbing! op should sue the Fuck out of the school.
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I still think the system will tip,collapse,That the rockefella public school system will fall,as well as the dept of ed.maybe even Ron Paul might get elected,but with all that is going on world wide,weather,earth changes,wars,rumors or wars,rumors of arrest and the great awakening there will be no more school,well some people.If you still wake up and brush with Colgate or Crest tooth paste,your probably not fully awake.Look at the sun,and all the other strange things.Thinks will either go one way or the other.
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"IF EVERYONE ELSE HAS THE VACCINE, HOW CAN MY SON BE A DANGER TO THEM?" BOOM, THEY GET OWNED INSTANTLY
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Why the *fuck* would you send your child to government indoctrination camp willingly?

What is your malfunction?
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You need to let your son have his vaccine. Withholding vaccinations from your children is child abuse pure and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288297


MORON!
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


I agree s/he is a Moron but is also a Moran as GLPers love to say. Sad, but maybe it's the weekend. The vaccination shills are out in force on this thread. Must be because they don't have a life other than how their government tells them to live. Either way, they aren't very bright.
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i've got two words for you... HOME SCHOOL.
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"IF EVERYONE ELSE HAS THE VACCINE, HOW CAN MY SON BE A DANGER TO THEM?" BOOM, THEY GET OWNED INSTANTLY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12276109

Correct.

Your child is now IMMUNE, so why be worried that he/she will catch anything from a child that is not immune?
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I see all these people arguging about 'whether you should vaccinate your 12 year old or not." AT 12 ITS HIS CHOICE... NOT YOURS
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You are pretty much stupid in every area of endeavor.

Did you know that?
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You need to let your son have his vaccine. Withholding vaccinations from your children is child abuse pure and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288297



Allowing any vaccinations to your children is irresponsible behavior. Playing russian roulette with their lives is criminal. People like you need your heads examined.

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