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The Two Witnesses .

 
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Did you ever try getting serious rather than cynical ?

Have you ever tried understanding prophecy before attempting one sentence denials.

Have you ever tried to be a missionary and didicate your life to serving Jesus and others.




PS) The TWO WITNESSES have served the Lord their whole lives.

That eliminates 90 percent of the King David syndromeites. Having the exact birthday eliminates all others.

The Lord has ways, His people can tell and discern. It is not hit and miss and quesswork, but exactness and heaven sent. Birthdays can not be altered and faked.
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You're right though Obama and Clinton are not Christians and not the TWO WITNESSES...

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Must find and have Grail and later Ark and Tabernacle
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bumpbumpbump
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To whom does the Grail serve ? Who is the once and FUTURE KING ?

Is it a myth or a foreshadowing of the truth.

Who was King Arthur, what was his ancestry and what about Quineve ? Was their marriage made in heaven.

What was the Grail ? Did it catch the blood of Jesus.

Is the blood of Jesus all-powerful becaiuse it is the blood of the Lamb which brings life, can it not also bring provisions.

When do we need provisions, is when we get the GRAIL. For to whom does the Grail serve, and who is its master and LORD, other than the LORD OF LORDS
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With these verses I can show you that your theory is wrong . This will only be possible with television .

7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

That could not have happened back then but it can now with 24hour media coverage .

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The two witnesses


Revelation 11:3-13 (King James Version)

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and
threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

(First half of Tribulation - First half of Daniel's Seventieth Week)

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks
standing before the God of the earth.

(antichrist/satan = god of this earth/world ; 2Cor. 4:4)

5 And if any man will hurt them,
fire proceedeth out of their mouth,
and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them,
he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven,
that it rain not in the days of their prophecy:
and have power over waters to turn them to blood,
and to smite the earth with all plagues,
as often as they will.

Mid - Trib

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony,
the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall
make war against them,
and shall overcome them, and kill them.


(Mid Trib - When satan indwells antichrist) Rev.13
Abomination of Desolation - satan declares himself god

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street
of the great city, which spiritually is called
Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.


9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and
nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half,
and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over
them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another;
because these two prophets tormented them
that dwelt on the earth.


11 And after three days and an half
the spirit of life from God entered into them,
and they stood upon their feet;

and great fear fell upon them which saw them.


12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven
in a cloud;
and their enemies beheld them.


13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake,
and the tenth part of the city fell (earthly Jerusalem),
and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand:
and "the remnant" were affrighted,
and gave GLORY to the God of heaven.


God Bless His Word


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1 Corinthians 14:33 (King James Version)

33 For God is not the author of confusion,
but of peace,
as in all churches of the saints.


God Bless His Word
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Did you ever try getting serious rather than cynical?
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Because you lie.

You said over and over again that we would certainly know when the last 7 years would begin by the signing of the covenant, yet you persist in believing that the Messiah's return will be in 2017 and the cleansing will end in 2018 despite the hard fact that it is already the fourth month of 2012. Are you unable to do the math? Seven years from today take us to 2019, a year that is not on your "exact" timeline.

It is far past the time that you must admit that even if god is revealing secrets to his prophets, that you are obviously not one of them because everything you have proclaimed that should have already occurred did not happen. What does it take for you to understand this very simple fact?

This is being serious. You only see it as cynical. This is the truth whether you accept it or not.
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Its me and my bro. No mistake, I will be carrying a sword and he a bow. Its nearly time to go. This is not for show but to show that we mean business..
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Did you ever try getting serious rather than cynical?
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Because you lie.

You said over and over again that we would certainly know when the last 7 years would begin by the signing of the covenant, yet you persist in believing that the Messiah's return will be in 2017 and the cleansing will end in 2018 despite the hard fact that it is already the fourth month of 2012. Are you unable to do the math? Seven years from today take us to 2019, a year that is not on your "exact" timeline.

It is far past the time that you must admit that even if god is revealing secrets to his prophets, that you are obviously not one of them because everything you have proclaimed that should have already occurred did not happen. What does it take for you to understand this very simple fact?

This is being serious. You only see it as cynical. This is the truth whether you accept it or not.
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Dear Perf. Calling me a liar, might help your low self esteem, but trying to understand prophecy is not an evil task but honourable even if you learn more and more as we go.

Apparrently you know nothing, which is hardly honorable.

But if you can prove that the covenant is the absolute starting date of the last 7 years, do post accordingly. Yes its the standard Christian theory, that I adopted as well... but see no absolute verses which state so.

So I shall not depart from what I know and what any can find out

4004 BC Creation
1004 Solomons Temple
4 BC Jesus born
1997 end of 6,000 years
21 years for Jacob's Trouble

2018 Start of Jesus Rule

Deny if you like, and go with nothing if you like. Or better yet discern prophecy for yourself and know the basics and basic timeline yourself, and don;t be so afraid of all the name calling that you will get if you have some sort of idea what is going on.

Make up as many anonymous names as you like, but figuring out something would definitely be beneficial for you.

As far as I can read, the only specific number of days is 2300 days, that's exact and starts with the sacrificing before the 3rd temple. Can;t start til Mid East War starts and ends with a sceurity arrangement called the Covenant.
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Dear Perf. Calling me a liar, might help your low self esteem, but trying to understand prophecy is not an evil task but honourable even if you learn more and more as we go.

Apparrently you know nothing, which is hardly honorable.

But if you can prove that the covenant is the absolute starting date of the last 7 years, do post accordingly. Yes its the standard Christian theory, that I adopted as well... but see no absolute verses which state so.
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You changed your take on the 7 years only because you wish to include yourself as a major figure in the end. Not gonna happen.

No sacrifices on May 25 this year. I will remind you at the end of May. There will be no covenant as described by you.
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OK Perf, you must be tired impersonating different people all the time.

By then you will have surely studied basic prophecy as well.

But all your marbles are on there being no design and no one knows anything because you know nothing.
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The Death of the Two Witnesses:

At the end of their ministry, the two witnesses will be slain by the beast and false prophet (Revelation 11:7). God’s representatives will be slain by the two evil world leaders. Revelation 11:9 prophesies people from all “kindreds, tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies…” This event will undoubtedly be given “wall to wall” coverage on the world’s broadcast, satellite and cable TV networks and the internet. It is only possible to fulfill this prophecy literally if a global televised capacity is in place. That it does exist now is further evidence that our modern world has entered the “latter days” when these prophesies can be fulfilled literally, not allegorically. The two witnesses are aptly named: the word “witnesses” come from the same Greek root word for the word “martyr.”
Given the immense power that the two witnesses will wield, it is likely that they will die by choosing not to use their supernatural powers at the end of their ministry and by laying down their lives voluntarily in order to fulfill Revelation 9:7’s prophecy. Jesus Christ could have called twelve legions to his rescue with a single word and annihilated the Romans and all his enemies at Golgotha. He chose not to use his power in order to fulfill God’s Divine will and prophecies. I think the two witnesses will make a similar choice, because the satanic power in the beast and false prophet will never be capable of defeating the power of God flowing through the two witnesses.
Revelation 11:7-10 states the beast and false prophet will “make war” upon the two witnesses and kill them when the two witnesses 3 and ½ year ministry is over. This begs the question: How will people know when that time is approaching? Will their three and ½ year ministry begin when a temple is dedicated in Jerusalem, when they perform their first miracle or at some other time? The Bible doesn’t give us a specific statement to recognize the instant when their ministry begins. The Bible does prophecy they will wield awesome Divine powers, but will they do that from “day one” of their ministry or will the miracles start later on during their ministry? The beast and false prophet will have a very short and hollow “victory.” They will be executed by Jesus Christ when he returns and sentences them to be burnt alive (Revelation 19:11-20). Luke 19:11-27 contains a parable about how Jesus will reward the saints when he returns to the earth after a long absence. This parable also foretells in verse 27 that Jesus will also say: “those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring them hither and slay them before me.” The beast and false prophet will be the foremost ones so sentenced, but they will not be alone. Revelation 19:19-21 relates that the political leaders allied to the beast and false prophet and the armies they command will be killed and their corpses fed to the animals and birds. Ezekiel 39:1-21 parallels this same intervention of God, the slaying of mass numbers of those fighting God and the feeding of their fallen carcasses to the animals and birds.
Revelation 11:8 foretells the dead bodies of the two witnesses will not be buried, but will be displayed publicly for three and ½ days. It is apparent they will die in the city of Jerusalem as it is the city where “our Lord was crucified.” Since most people will not be aware of biblical prophecy, the beast and false prophet will surely proclaim the death of the two witnesses affirms that they, the beast and false prophet, now rule supreme on the earth. Revelation 11:9-11 indicates that almost everyone on earth will accept their sovereignty and rule. A few will refuse and they will be fiercely persecuted. The remaining believers in God will then either be martyred or Divinely protected as the very next chapter, Revelation 12 explains. Revelation 12:13-17 prophesies that Satan (who energizes the beast and false prophet) will seek to kill the “woman” (a type of God’s people); however, many of God’s people will be miraculously protected for “a time, times and half a time.” Some Christians see this as another three and1/2 year period, but I do not. The word translated “time” or “times” does not literally mean “years.” It simply means three and half segments of “a fixed [period of] time. By itself, this prophetic phrase could indicate three and ½ years, months, weeks or days. However, connecting it to the context of Revelation 11’s prophecy about the two witnesses indicates the correct meaning is “three and ½ days.”
During the three and ½ years of the two witnesses’ ministry, their superior divine power will be sufficient to protect God’s people on the earth. They can plague anyone who dares to harm God’s people during their ministry. At the end of their ministry, it will be abundantly evident whether people are with or against the two witnesses because those with them will not have been plagued and those resisting them will have been plagued. Those resisting the two witnesses will grow increasingly hateful toward those people not plagued by the two witnesses, and their desire for vengeance will be unleashed when the two witnesses die. Revelation 11:9 prophesies the two witnesses will remain dead for three and ½ days, and it would be in such a time when their power is removed from the world that God’s peoples will need Divine protection. Revelation 12:14 prophesies many will receive that protection for the three and ½ “times” (i.e. “days”) that the two witnesses are dead. Others will not be protected and will be martyred or persecuted by the beast and the false prophet’s followers during that three and ½ day period (Revelation 12:17).
The beast and false prophet will have to concoct some lies to explain why the two witnesses were able to wield such power for three and ½ years. The masses will gullibly swallow these lies and will celebrate the turn of events (Revelation 11:10). Since the two witnesses will be protected by Divine power from attack and will wield Divine powers for years, perhaps the masses will be deceived into believing a science fiction explanation for their supernatural powers. After all, many science fiction films are based on the common theme of the earth’s people uniting against an “invader from outer space.” Jesus, his saints and his angels will literally be an invading force from the heavens when they come (Matthew 24:27, 30-31, Revelation 19:11-16, compare Isaiah 34:1-4 with Revelation 6:12-14, etc.). It could be an “easy sell” to rationalize the two witnesses’ power by claiming it was provided by some alien intelligence. All nations will oppose Jesus Christ’s army when he returns with his heavenly army a short time later (Revelation 19:19) so the beast and false prophet will likely deceive the world into thinking that the death of the two witnesses indicates that the world can now successfully resist the “alien” power that energized the two witnesses. Whatever lies and deceptions are used, those who join the beast and false prophet in fighting Jesus Christ‘s Divine army when it arrives later will be slain (remember Zechariah 14:12-13, Revelation 19:11-20, Luke 19:27, Ezekiel 39).
Revelation 11:10 prophesies a great celebration will begin all over the earth after the two witnesses are killed. This global celebration is almost certainly the same time pictured in I Thessalonians 5:2-3 when just prior to the “the day of the Lord” the world is proclaiming the arrival of a time “of peace and safety.” I Thessalonians 5:3 reveals that the world’s expectation of a time of “peace of safety” is short-lived as “sudden destruction” comes upon the earth and they cannot “escape” it. Revelation 11, the prophecy about the two witnesses, agrees. The time of celebration which follows the death of the two witnesses swiftly segues into another “woe” which befalls the earth.
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what is your take on the star being cast down? What is the grand deception? your take on the abomination which causeth desolation?
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The Death of the Two Witnesses:

At the end of their ministry, the two witnesses will be slain by the beast and false prophet (Revelation 11:7). God’s representatives will be slain by the two evil world leaders. Revelation 11:9 prophesies people from all “kindreds, tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies…” This event will undoubtedly be given “wall to wall” coverage on the world’s broadcast, satellite and cable TV networks and the internet. It is only possible to fulfill this prophecy literally if a global televised capacity is in place. That it does exist now is further evidence that our modern world has entered the “latter days” when these prophesies can be fulfilled literally, not allegorically. The two witnesses are aptly named: the word “witnesses” come from the same Greek root word for the word “martyr.”
Given the immense power that the two witnesses will wield, it is likely that they will die by choosing not to use their supernatural powers at the end of their ministry and by laying down their lives voluntarily in order to fulfill Revelation 9:7’s prophecy. Jesus Christ could have called twelve legions to his rescue with a single word and annihilated the Romans and all his enemies at Golgotha. He chose not to use his power in order to fulfill God’s Divine will and prophecies. I think the two witnesses will make a similar choice, because the satanic power in the beast and false prophet will never be capable of defeating the power of God flowing through the two witnesses.
Revelation 11:7-10 states the beast and false prophet will “make war” upon the two witnesses and kill them when the two witnesses 3 and ½ year ministry is over. This begs the question: How will people know when that time is approaching? Will their three and ½ year ministry begin when a temple is dedicated in Jerusalem, when they perform their first miracle or at some other time? The Bible doesn’t give us a specific statement to recognize the instant when their ministry begins. The Bible does prophecy they will wield awesome Divine powers, but will they do that from “day one” of their ministry or will the miracles start later on during their ministry? The beast and false prophet will have a very short and hollow “victory.” They will be executed by Jesus Christ when he returns and sentences them to be burnt alive (Revelation 19:11-20). Luke 19:11-27 contains a parable about how Jesus will reward the saints when he returns to the earth after a long absence. This parable also foretells in verse 27 that Jesus will also say: “those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring them hither and slay them before me.” The beast and false prophet will be the foremost ones so sentenced, but they will not be alone. Revelation 19:19-21 relates that the political leaders allied to the beast and false prophet and the armies they command will be killed and their corpses fed to the animals and birds. Ezekiel 39:1-21 parallels this same intervention of God, the slaying of mass numbers of those fighting God and the feeding of their fallen carcasses to the animals and birds.
Revelation 11:8 foretells the dead bodies of the two witnesses will not be buried, but will be displayed publicly for three and ½ days. It is apparent they will die in the city of Jerusalem as it is the city where “our Lord was crucified.” Since most people will not be aware of biblical prophecy, the beast and false prophet will surely proclaim the death of the two witnesses affirms that they, the beast and false prophet, now rule supreme on the earth. Revelation 11:9-11 indicates that almost everyone on earth will accept their sovereignty and rule. A few will refuse and they will be fiercely persecuted. The remaining believers in God will then either be martyred or Divinely protected as the very next chapter, Revelation 12 explains. Revelation 12:13-17 prophesies that Satan (who energizes the beast and false prophet) will seek to kill the “woman” (a type of God’s people); however, many of God’s people will be miraculously protected for “a time, times and half a time.” Some Christians see this as another three and1/2 year period, but I do not. The word translated “time” or “times” does not literally mean “years.” It simply means three and half segments of “a fixed [period of] time. By itself, this prophetic phrase could indicate three and ½ years, months, weeks or days. However, connecting it to the context of Revelation 11’s prophecy about the two witnesses indicates the correct meaning is “three and ½ days.”
During the three and ½ years of the two witnesses’ ministry, their superior divine power will be sufficient to protect God’s people on the earth. They can plague anyone who dares to harm God’s people during their ministry. At the end of their ministry, it will be abundantly evident whether people are with or against the two witnesses because those with them will not have been plagued and those resisting them will have been plagued. Those resisting the two witnesses will grow increasingly hateful toward those people not plagued by the two witnesses, and their desire for vengeance will be unleashed when the two witnesses die. Revelation 11:9 prophesies the two witnesses will remain dead for three and ½ days, and it would be in such a time when their power is removed from the world that God’s peoples will need Divine protection. Revelation 12:14 prophesies many will receive that protection for the three and ½ “times” (i.e. “days”) that the two witnesses are dead. Others will not be protected and will be martyred or persecuted by the beast and the false prophet’s followers during that three and ½ day period (Revelation 12:17).
The beast and false prophet will have to concoct some lies to explain why the two witnesses were able to wield such power for three and ½ years. The masses will gullibly swallow these lies and will celebrate the turn of events (Revelation 11:10). Since the two witnesses will be protected by Divine power from attack and will wield Divine powers for years, perhaps the masses will be deceived into believing a science fiction explanation for their supernatural powers. After all, many science fiction films are based on the common theme of the earth’s people uniting against an “invader from outer space.” Jesus, his saints and his angels will literally be an invading force from the heavens when they come (Matthew 24:27, 30-31, Revelation 19:11-16, compare Isaiah 34:1-4 with Revelation 6:12-14, etc.). It could be an “easy sell” to rationalize the two witnesses’ power by claiming it was provided by some alien intelligence. All nations will oppose Jesus Christ’s army when he returns with his heavenly army a short time later (Revelation 19:19) so the beast and false prophet will likely deceive the world into thinking that the death of the two witnesses indicates that the world can now successfully resist the “alien” power that energized the two witnesses. Whatever lies and deceptions are used, those who join the beast and false prophet in fighting Jesus Christ‘s Divine army when it arrives later will be slain (remember Zechariah 14:12-13, Revelation 19:11-20, Luke 19:27, Ezekiel 39).
Revelation 11:10 prophesies a great celebration will begin all over the earth after the two witnesses are killed. This global celebration is almost certainly the same time pictured in I Thessalonians 5:2-3 when just prior to the “the day of the Lord” the world is proclaiming the arrival of a time “of peace and safety.” I Thessalonians 5:3 reveals that the world’s expectation of a time of “peace of safety” is short-lived as “sudden destruction” comes upon the earth and they cannot “escape” it. Revelation 11, the prophecy about the two witnesses, agrees. The time of celebration which follows the death of the two witnesses swiftly segues into another “woe” which befalls the earth.
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what is your take on the star being cast down? What is the grand deception? your take on the abomination which causeth desolation?
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My take is that the timing is exact.

My hyperlinks censorship by GLP make it difficult unless I start from the beginning, which I haven;t time to do.... saving time was why I started the website. As prophecy is precept by precept

The Russian AC takes Jerusalem intact after surrounding it, and of course with America annihilated, Israel is conquered.

The AC then states He is God by saying so in the 3rd temple, it takes him one month to set up the A.O.B. computer, in the Holy Place and then at that point He declares WAR on any that will not take his MARK. That explains the parameter difference between the two exact timeframes of 1290 days and 1260 days.. IE one month.

From then on it is 1260 days before our TWO CHRISTIAN WITNESSES or PROPHETS lead us away from Jerusalem and they keep returning to Jerusalem to call down the trumpets on a deserving vile world.

Simple straight forward
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The demons being cast out of heaven, are just then earthly demons that can possess deserving people on Earth

( SEE Nodding Disease HERE at GLP)

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But all your marbles are on there being no design and no one knows anything because you know nothing.
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Seriously, Jay - unless you are totally lost in your sexagenarian mind, you have to consider at times, given the multitude of persons claiming to be one of the Two Witnesses of the Endtimes, assuming that this is something that is not a fantasy, that at the very least, all but two of them are full of shit, and given your most obvious internet prophetic record of swings and misses for a PERFect batting average of absolute ZERO - how can you possibly consider that you might be one of the fabled Two?
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Plus, I love how you always say that I know nothing, yet you have never been right with anything you predicted and I have never been wrong.

So who is the one who knows nothing?

You could learn from me if you were not so proud.

Watch.

May 25 you will be wrong again and then, how will you spin it for your benefit?
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Right about worldly Israel
Right about America
Right about the Rise of the evil three US, Britan and France
Right about rise of AC Surkov
Right about Putin and Moscow Prelate
Right about Churchies
Right about HAARP
Right about Creation and 4004 BC, 1004, 4 BC and 1997 B.C End
Right about Jacobs Trouble
Right about 70 Prophecy of Moses and David, birth timing of Jesus.
Right about evils of nationalism
Right about Jesus DIVINITY and POWER
Right about Nodding Disease
Right about upcoming Mid East War and cause
Right about damnable materialism

I reckon I can be right about the timing, seeing all the time frames mess in 2017 for His COMING and rule in 2018.

What have you been right about. What prophecy have you stated, what truth have you defended Perf.

All your hopes and dreams are tied up in denying that anyone knows more than your nothing. Post any thread you have started about prophecy ?

Do it now !

Hoping to see your first thread ever, so you can show some courage rather than the lack of it.
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SEE new thread of mine called End Time Plague

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Lets compose and put together all the verses which directly relate to the END TIME PLAGUE, that Jesus mentioned about in Mathew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21.

Mathew 24
3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and PESTILENCES and earthquakes, in divers places.
Repeated in Mark 13
7And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
8For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
And repeated again in Luke 21, in case you missed it in the previous books and chapters, and the word, pestilence again used.
10Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and PESTILENCES; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

And then connect it up to current events and prepare ourselves mentally and spiritually for its fulfillment.
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“Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it" (Matthew 7:24-27).

Jesus is saying that only things established on a rock foundation will hold up in the coming storm. One man built his house upon a rock ". . . and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock" (verse 25).

The builders of these houses represent two classes of Christians in these last days—the wise and the foolish. They built two different kinds of houses which people were living in when the storm hit.

On one hand, it is encouraging to know there will be a body of believers who will not fall. They will be able to withstand every demonic onslaught that comes out of hell when the storms rage. Jesus wants us to know from this parable that a person who builds his house upon a rock will survive everything that is coming.

Yet, sadly, there will be another group of Christians—people of whom Jesus says, "Their fall will be great" (see verse 27). This means a total, complete, devastating collapse of everything.

At this point, you may be wondering: "What does it mean, exactly, to 'build a house'?" It is important to know that the house Jesus is talking about here is our walk with Him. We are building a foundation of getting to know Christ, of understanding His ways. We are building into our faith certain characteristics that will determine how we react under pressure.
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Right about worldly Israel
Right about America
Right about the Rise of the evil three US, Britan and France
Right about rise of AC Surkov
Right about Putin and Moscow Prelate
Right about Churchies
Right about HAARP
Right about Creation and 4004 BC, 1004, 4 BC and 1997 B.C End
Right about Jacobs Trouble
Right about 70 Prophecy of Moses and David, birth timing of Jesus.
Right about evils of nationalism
Right about Jesus DIVINITY and POWER
Right about Nodding Disease
Right about upcoming Mid East War and cause
Right about damnable materialism

I reckon I can be right about the timing, seeing all the time frames mess in 2017 for His COMING and rule in 2018.

What have you been right about. What prophecy have you stated, what truth have you defended Perf.

All your hopes and dreams are tied up in denying that anyone knows more than your nothing. Post any thread you have started about prophecy ?

Do it now !

Hoping to see your first thread ever, so you can show some courage rather than the lack of it.
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Only in your own mind have you been correct about any of those things. I have been correct whenever you have placed a date on an upcoming event to declare that it will NOT come to pass. For example, your recent 4 failed dates for the Mideast War. All of them failed to happen when you said they would. Next stop will be May 25. After that, Dec. 21 where you say the rise of the AC will occur with demon driven UFO's - also not gonna happen.
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You have never posted one thread on prophecy.

You mean not one...and you proclaim you know lies from truth.. and claim you know prophecy.

Give a hyperlink to any of your positive threads
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State a truth about prophecy and then back it up.... Start your first thread .. NOW

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THE PARABLE OF PREPAREDNESS


by David Wilkerson | April 5, 2012





“Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it" (Matthew 7:24-27).

Jesus is saying that only things established on a rock foundation will hold up in the coming storm. One man built his house upon a rock ". . . and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock" (verse 25).

The builders of these houses represent two classes of Christians in these last days—the wise and the foolish. They built two different kinds of houses which people were living in when the storm hit.

On one hand, it is encouraging to know there will be a body of believers who will not fall. They will be able to withstand every demonic onslaught that comes out of hell when the storms rage. Jesus wants us to know from this parable that a person who builds his house upon a rock will survive everything that is coming.

Yet, sadly, there will be another group of Christians—people of whom Jesus says, "Their fall will be great" (see verse 27). This means a total, complete, devastating collapse of everything.

At this point, you may be wondering: "What does it mean, exactly, to 'build a house'?" It is important to know that the house Jesus is talking about here is our walk with Him. We are building a foundation of getting to know Christ, of understanding His ways. We are building into our faith certain characteristics that will determine how we react under pressure.
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A little churchy as it is from David Wilkerson.... and shows it. NO we are tried and purified and make mistakes all the way to the end. None of us are sacrosanct and pure and sinless. We all fall, and have to get back up and go again, strengthening our FAITH as we go.

Its the faithless that fall and can not get back up.

The 144,000 arenot pure, they are just purely in love with their husband the Lord, the Bridegroom.

Forget the purity standard that is for church people as they trust mainly in themselves and not the Lord...and they will fail in most cases.
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You have never posted one thread on prophecy.

You mean not one...and you proclaim you know lies from truth.. and claim you know prophecy.

Give a hyperlink to any of your positive threads
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It does not matter. My predictions are not based on biblical or spiritual prophecy. It is based upon both reason and your history of never having had a prophecy come to pass.

That's how I know that May 25 will pass by with no resumption of the sacrifices because Daniel said it was the AC who allowed it. Look around you - there is no AC.

Dec. 21 will also pass by with no rise of the AC and no demon driven UFO's.

Those are the kind.of predictions I make and there is no reason to start a thread about it.

Why don't you demonstrate your faith. If all hell is going to break loose this year, why don't you not pay your income tax this year. If you are right, it won't make any difference.
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I was right again, that you know no prophecy and have never posted a thread concerning its importance. And so try desperately to be judge and jury, so that others won;t learn the basics, and be like you, knowing nothing.

Thanks for the confirmation.
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I was right again, that you know no prophecy and have never posted a thread concerning its importance. And so try desperately to be judge and jury, so that others won;t learn the basics, and be like you, knowing nothing.

Thanks for the confirmation.
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And your record of one failed prediction after another is supposed to mean that you are? What a joke - you not only set yourself up to look foolish, now you are even paying GLP to assist you in that.

By the way, I noticed that you did not deny that you think you are one of the witnesses. What an ego.
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What we are is what we are. Its not ego, just a statement of fact. What happens in the future is up to us... and our choices

So far, I have just been a world class athlete, university graduate, web master, father of five, non denominational missionary, photographer, and what I will be, is still yet undetermined..... as I hope to finnish strong, as what we do just before the BUZZER usually determined what we have inside.

You need to start and post one positive thread.

And learn some prophecy so you know who to follow

SEE BELOW....

Who will you follow in the Tribulation ?

In the End-time, who are you going to follow, because you are not going to go through such Tribulation alone and by yourself. Scripturally, the Lord shall gather us and lead us, via His Two Witnesses. This because the Lord's End-time movement will consolidate the 'Forsaken' and outcasts of the LORD into a nation born in a day ( the day the A.C. claims himself to be God ). So who are you going to follow?

Will you select a church pastor, a born again President, or an internet guru. The choice is yours, but rest assured, you will make a choice one way or the other. For even if you decide to fight the A.C. single-handedly, you will have to make choices and decisions, alone and only according to your own personal Faith.. For you and your family whether in a group or church surely won't survive more than a month or so, living and working, and witnessing within the A.C. dastardly world government. The A.C. will force you to decide. It's either take His MARK or die ? Straight forward and simple, and you better not take his MARK !!!

If you understand that the Lord will not forsake us and leave us without leadership in the End Time, then what kind of leadership will you follow ? It will have to be strong leadership, and that leadership will not be chosen by groupie group consensus according to a popularity poll or voted on by the masses, unless that is what you are used to. So if you like playing it safe when it will cost you your life, so be it ... that's probably how you have decided almost everything before that time anyway.

But my parameters for who I will be following will be extremely precise. I want to make sure who and what principles my eternal soul and eternal life are going for. For if two candidates or witnesses, don't have the Power of Revelation’s Two Witnesses, then I say forget them. If they are con artists like most pastors, leaders, politicians, rabbi's and imman's, then forget them. If they can't set the captives free literally, forget them. If they can't give sight to the blind, like Isaiah prophesied, of what value are they? No more milk and toast, word manglers for me, even if they smile from one ear to another, with pre-arranged questions and supposed answers.

And I for one, won't follow anyone that is a horrible physical example. But from scriptures, I am looking for a warrior King Arthur or a Xena dictated by ancient prophecies from the Dead Sea Scrolls to ancient myths to Biblical prophets. Because if they don't have it physically and can't lead us into battle like Gideon did, forget them. I want proof of their spiritually and proof of their physical strength in the real world or forget it.

If they don't have the literal ROD and Staff of the Lord, what good are they? If they don't find the GRAIL, how are they going to provide? If they don't recover the Ark and the Tabernacle as stated by Maccabies, how in Heaven's Name, can they call down the power of God for our protectlon? For How can the Lord’s Spirit protect us and surround us, unless He himself this time selects our leadership and we follow them ?

Our Zion, our Branches, our TWO End-time prophets have to have 'Literal Fire' coming out of their mouths in the End-time not just hot air. I want literal fulfillment not some promised dreamland or illusionary future empowerment. For I and my Family are not going into the wilderness, with any Tom, Dick or Harry, Jane or Jennifer, even if they call themselves 'enlightened' and 'witnesses'.

If we only have one life to live, we better all carefully consider our future the next time around, and choose more carefully as Indian Jones did. I personally wish we didn't have to group together, considering the oppression of the heartless on those that have a heart, when groups form. But this time, it has to be different. This is the last time, this is the Lord's time. We will absolutely have to be in a group to be protected as a group within the confines of the fold, in the 'Encampment of the Lord.' Besides then, because of the life or death entrance ordeal (or test) the wolves will no longer have access into the fold under the guise of sheep.

Only the Lord's 144,000 will pass under the Shepherd's rod, and we won't be counting or taking stats. We won't be voting for leaders and I for one won't be following unless the leaders or prophets have more than just damnable talk. If they can't walk the walk into Jerusalem unafraid and blast the hell out of the A.C. and his cohorts, to hell with them. If they are afraid of germs, and guns, and their shadows, and their own nightmares, forget them. ...If they are afraid of being 'called devils' as Jesus was and said his followers would be called…... Forget them.

The last two prophets are going to openly decry the evils of America even before the Tribulation, to give us advanced warning of who they are. And their prophetic doom of America will happen, as Russia pulverizes them into dust that ascends upwards to heaven. The two prophets aren't going to be afraid, and probably will be imprisonned like the apostles were. So I'm not looking for any 'afraid of their own shadow or sun shine prophets or prophetesses', but the real thing straight from the Lord with real proof of their ministry and literal POWER.

The ENDTIME will be much more cataclysmic and exciting and horrifying and righteously just than any other time in the Lord's recorded History, rather than the slow death of procrastination and the agony of inaction and unbelief. We will have to choose wisely and with absolute FAITH.

So if our two prophets aren't eventually able to call down FIRE upon our enemies from heaven, then we have sided with the wrong leaders, and that will be our own fault. If our leaders aren't literally stronger than the A.C. and the false prophet, then forget them, because our God and His prophets, His Branches, His Zion is stronger than the forces of evil. They are no match for us.

This time around, the last time around, I want to choose the right shepherds and the right sheepfold. According to my choice according to scriptures. Who will you follow ?
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Perf,

Your first step, would be receive the Lord
Secondly you might choose to serve the Lord as a missionary and be a witness of HIM
Then actual experiences might enable you to have some insight into scriptures.
Then learn to have some courage and stand up for what you personnally believe rather than being gutless and trying to just tear down others and the Lord.

All the best...Good Friday is an excellent day to start your journey
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I can;t believe how negative some people get.

Never ever having started any threads, and just making snide negative remarks about prophecy.
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What if everything the Left Behind novels and Late, Great Planet Earth books written by self-proclaimed religious authorites were totally wrong? Maybe it's time to rethink the whole concept of the end times with a new perspective. See: [link to www.hallvworthington.com]