How Are Any Ancient Texts Translated Without A Living Speaking Interrupter Of The Way It Was Sounded Out???

now would someone like to tell we how to speak Sumerian? and why the BS stories that go with the clay tablets are told...wait we know....money and misdirection...

...wouldn't that be true about any 'ancient' prophecy?

Oh you're talking about that Sitchin guy, right? He was no linguist and his so-called translations are utter bullshit!

...wouldn't this be true about the old testament prophecies written in -ancient- Hebrew too...

...him or anyone else,the point is you would have to be from ancient Sumerian or ancient wherever to speak and translate the alleged tablets into another language...

Sitchin's work on the interpretation of the egyptian mina ball was a match in my research,

op did u understand?


It's what was seen at the mount that was carved in stone as well the experience of the real light and how it works,u just got to see it to beleive it.


Rosetta stone is holy holy text,hieroglyphics as well,rosetta is hieroglyphics.


These text are so great and holy words can hardly describe.


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lightson tah

The only true interpretation is the reciver of the light,and no one of this earth can change it,thats why it is so holy all languages is of it.And all languages coinside to it,all books are of it,yet hieroglyphics,rosetta corrects all bs.if a thousand languages left to another land,then a thousand languages returns to the pillars=dendera,and all languages are corrected to hieroglyphics,rosetta stone.


Although math remains a definition,like languages,the light makes its correction,the english grammer math is the same as hebrew,yet hebrew math brings more definition.


the problem with these text,is so much bs writen,with this much bs we see why the usa ranks 28th on the globe in education,in my state we are 48th,with the foundation of stability based on djed pillars=light of god dendera,rosetta stone,hieroglyphics,no one can interpret,the highest knowledge remains in the light of correction yet we see no education to it,therfore in several hundred years this decline is noted to lack of education of the mount,yet the great giza remains a wonder,it also is of the higher education.


Technology continues to destroy nature,all technology is created by taking away nature,its the harness of nature in the most highest that brings global addiction disorters,noted of cell phone to the em vacum of the hight of the great giza shafts,this hight and location brings fast communications,yet satelight location is the key.



The sine wave is harnesd through nature with out it there be no electricity,taking all of tesla's work brought cell phones,these towers interfere with nature,a communication disorter noted in the younger generation.


The body is of light,magnetics,on an on,carved in stone in exact sequence,the true light of god is real,yet few understand its power and how it works stabilizing this globe,"LIGHT OF GOD DENDERA"

These are the true elected,no way around it,


for who receives this light no matter were on earth,all would adjust.


Thats why you see these carvings next to the great giza mayan on an.


Soltice is the true global clock,thats how the mayan callenders matched the hebrew callander,yet the enoch callender of sunlight was its foundation,it was adjusted in grid speed of light to its infinity point,144 thousands,everone on earth adjust to it yet they not know.




All callenders,clocks of this earth adjust,were you at is a key factor,most go to egypt,mayan locations pyrimads on an on,


When you see the mountain of god in operation,you will understand why and what the true meaning of rosetta stone,hierioglyphics is,you can basicly hold the stone in your hands the stone becomes alive with movement so to speak,surpassing all bs writen for thousands of years your time,you will understand how great books are adjusted to hieroglyphics,as well all languages of earth,as well all faiths,tribes,etc.



All languages,all faiths, tribes on an on adjust,most languages,are may i say all languages are corrected with hieroglyphics,rosetta stone.


Hieroglyphics,rosetta stone surpasses all bs writen for thousands of years your time.

these text are location of the mount and how all things work at the mount,

And that my freinds is the only thing that matters.As all matter of this earth is of it.


peace

lightson


tah

good thread op,when comon sense has no meaning,then correction has no weight.

...the Rosetta stone may have showed them how to write it but it didn't show how to pronounce the words...the stone could not speak...

Now you're just being silly. Spoken Greek today differs really very little from ancient Greek. The Greeks were always extremely logical and orderly in their writing and even today, if you understand the alphabet, you can correctly pronounce anything you see written - even if you don't know what it means.

Most ancient languages have their modern versions so long as the descendants of those who spoke them are still on the earth. In some of the examples you gave: people still speak Mayan and they still speak Nahuatl (Aztecs) and in more isolated communities in that part of the world, you'll find that nothing much has changed from the ancient forms. Hebrew is the official language of Israel; they managed to modernize it in some amusing ways, borrowing from old scripture, in order to preserve its integrity.

...this common sense thread and we other common sense threads form a nice present for TPTB...as its written "the meek shall confound the wise",lol there are tooooo many holes in the accepted written version of things...and we still have no pins yet,lol...5 stars on some but no pins,we's provable theory's must rattle too many cages and turn too many apple carts over,lol...

how do you explain sumerian or ancient egyptian where the texts were only found in the last few hundred years? who correctly spoke these languages after the times they were found?

we will say it again where is the pronunciation charts of the languages when they were "translated" into other speech?

You are assuming here that all those people simply disappeared? Something you may not have considered with the writing is that a lot of those 'texts' discovered were school texts, teaching people to write in those long-ago days. Those were self-explanatory.

Sumeria, encompassing Iraq and southwest Iran, had a lot of different ethnic groups and like the Romans did, they established an official language so everyone could do business together. They used characters rather than phonetics, or cuneiform writing, because it was a faster way for people to learn to read and communicate over a distance without linguistic difficulties. Egypt was an empire and found utility in hieroglyphics for much the same reason.

Both Persians and Romans kept very good records indeed, as did the Hebrews and the Greeks. It's likely much easier than you think to find entire ancient treatises on language alone.

Spoken languages of today in those regions, whilst different from each other yet include most of the same basics for that region of the world: the vowels and consonants are still in the mouths of their modern descendants and sound just like they did long ago.

I don't know about Greek, but the Mayan and Nauhatl spoken today is not like what was spoken before the conquest. Languages change with the times and the influence of other languages around them. There are 30 odd Mayan dialects still spoken today in parts of Mexico, Guatemala, Belize and Honduras. Some, like Tzotzil, Tzeltal, Tojolobal are so similar that they can converse with each other and understand almost everything but they are so different from Yucatec or Quiche Mayan that conversation is impossible. The Mayan spoken in many areas has Nahuatl words adopted before the conquest and new words for things brought from Europe like chickens and horses.

No matter what your language combination, it is a challenge to translate philosophy and prose. There are things that just can't be conveyed with the same richness . You can translate the words literally, but the context is lost. So every time you translate a text into another language, it loses something. Take the New Testament. Most of it was written in archaic Aramaic. Then it was translated into Latin and Greek. The translations into English were based on these, not on the original Aramaic version, so they are translations of translations.

Mayan does have many dialects and may well have had a long time ago as well. Some old languages didn't change a lot with exposure to other peoples and some groups got more exposure than others. New words from foreign base were simply added in and not changed. For example, some of our Indian languages in America don't have words for most modern additions: either a foreign word is used or there are some really funny adjustments. For instance, in Navajo, a plum is a 'black egg,' making no sense to anyone who didn't already know what was being discussed. Guess what the word for wine is: "no good!"

Most of the New Testament was not written in Aramaic; it was written in Greek, regardless of what was spoken by the people in the places most spoken of. One reason for that is that Aramaic was a family of languages rather than one and there was need for an already standardized alphabet to get any kind of consistency in the narrative. Another was that those were in no wise 'Hebrew scriptures,' and were even considered odious blasphemies by the only people in Jewish society who could write and read Aramaic languages: their clergy. Greeks, on the other hand, wrote down everything about everything.

As to losing context, well it can be regained if a translator can do more than a literal translation - I mean it's best to actually speak and regularly use the languages you wish to translate. When you can think in the one you want to translate from, you'll find a way to express a thing on its own terms. It might simply take you a lot more words and linguistic gymnastics than you had planned on.:)

Very interesting. Thanks

I am a translator. It depends on the text. Legal, medical, scientific or articles are easy. What is hard is abstract thought. It is a challenge to translate accurately because how do you interpret something that is vague or is a play on words in one language but not in the other? I had to translate a new age oracle once. It took me twice as long to complete as the same amount of legal or medical text would have. I had to consult with the author almost daily to discuss the possible translations and ask questions to help me determine what the intent of a paragraph was. This is all well and good when you can ask the author yourself, but for ancient texts, a translator can only interpret the meaning to the best of his ability based on his own understanding of the material.

Translation is not pronunciation. You don't need to know the verbal expression in order to understand the symbology.

Does "Z = 3" mean something different to a Canadian? Is "FOR (i = 0; i < 4; i++){serial.print(table(entry) + '\n'; entry++; }" meaningful only if you know how to speak it aloud?

OH man. Excellent example. I didn't think about computer code being a written language. Doh!

It wasn't so much that the language was that different, it was the aflabets that kept changing to desive, confuse and to keep up with accients from both lacal derlilicts to foren markets and visiters.

why would you need to know how it SOUNDS? (to translate it)??

His translations have never been faulted.
It's his interpretation of the translated text that is called into question.

That's the problem with the written word in the absence of the author, it is left open interpreted with no way of knowing what was originally meant by the author.

I would bet that the actually pronunciation is just a best guess based on current languages.

Although there may be some other linguistic clues such as if they find any poetry that seems to have rhymes.

Come to think of it, even if you knew the common pronunciation, you wouldn't know if the original scribe had a regional dialect.

See the attached link and copied text from this website. I believe this answers your question.

Bisutun Inscription

[link to visopsys.org]



It is as a result of Darius, Rawlinson, and this inscription that we have come to understand cuneiform script and several of the historically significant languages that utilized it. Thus, modern scholars are now free to spend their time translating the myriad of ancient documents (clay tablets, inscriptions, etc.) that have been uncovered, dating back to ancient Mesopotamia and Persia. The importance of this to our modern understanding of these ancient civilizations cannot be understated. This is the single most important contribution of Darius and the Bisutun inscription.

Like a voice relay on an on all the way to the mount,djed pillars,going back to the foundation of speech,hieroglyphics,rosetta stone,


Again we go to interpretation,the bases for all languages is hieroglyphics,rosetta stone,all languages adjust to it


u right about about the understanding of the material,


1st------light

2nd------art=hieroglyphics=rosetta,etc

3rd------ language


4th ------- math


The usa ranks 28th on the globe in education,yet other languages do well here in the states,its alarming.


The adjustment of all languages are weighed at the mount,this adjustment is in the light,


on earth are power points,these points have different time,u we here mountain time yet few understand how the hand adjust,in truth time square is off some 4,300 years.


The military lost on time adjustment to this therory,we seen this with the patriot missle of defense as its time was set at what the military thought was correct,yet off 01 secound.


The best form of language is in the correction of light,these tablets were writen in the light,this light is a special light like no other,carved in stone u see this hieroglyphics,on the chair as well hieroglyphics next to the great giza,mayan,on an on.


The great giza remains a great wonder,yet knowit it is how the mountain of god works,a power house controling the earth,these pillars are like feathers ballancing the earth,this location is holy holy.


You call these pillars djed pillars hebrew text,yet jed english text,this is how the light of god works,"LIGHT OF GOD DENDERA"


You just have to see to understand,


When you see you will write,draw,and what you draw write will match what was carved in stone thousands of years ago,yet it is as we speak.

Then you will know the truth and the difference of all bs writen,and may i add alota bs has been writen over the last thousands of years,it confuses the people.


The triangel of light coinside to the mount,you see this in secound stage rosetta stone,as well hieroglyphics.


The frequency of speech is in all of you,your highest form of technology says we are rasing the bar for better communications,the bar is within you,its carved as djed pillars dendera,when you get light of god the bar rises from the mountain then it splits into wavy lines,technology falls short to it,yet it is the foundation of cell phone technology,teslas works shows this.


you see these wavy lines carved in stone,


No power of this earth is greater,and all adjust,its nature at the most highest.


For these are the true elect.



peace.


Each faith on earth,each language on earth,each flag on earth,all country's, nations are like nest,yet at the mount be a great bird as all birds tie into it,and at the mount be a flag,as all flags tie into it,and at the mount be a person,as all persons tie into that person.


carved in stone you see this dendera,this is how all languages are seperated,yet find its way back,this is how all dna is seperated yet finds its way back.in one secound of this light be like thousands of years,yet a thousand years beit as we speak.


Mountain is transmutation,transportation,transfiguration,in this light all is perfected,after you get light of god the serpent is removed from your body,it turns into your english definition egyptian mina ball,this process works in your definition math grid speed of light 144 thousands,


Djed pillars are marked on great kings,this is how solom rounded up the tribes,after you get light of god the hawk,falcon guide you,a true rebirth as the serpents is released from your body a true cleansing and great healing.


Carved in stone you see this.


U have seen the rosetta stone hit the stock market after dec 21,2006 morning soltice,


The usa is falling in global communications,this is a fact,


for who the greatis education in english with no education of the mount.



Unity peace Freedom

lightson tah


Pleace pardon my spelling and english.