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Jet Stream Broken: Possible ARkStorm Forming off Coast of California Could Rain on Cali for Months and Form an Inland Sea

 
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Jet Stream Broken: Possible ARkStorm Forming off Coast of California Could Rain on Cali for Months and Form an Inland Sea
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A satellite view of the weather over the Pacific Ocean and the U.S. currently shows a strong low pressure system off the coast of California that due to a "broken" gulf stream could stall in its present position for months.

In other words, there is the potential for what is called an ARkStorm (Atmospheric River 1000 Storm) to form. An ARkStorm is one which stays in one position and constantly feeds moisture onto the land nonstop for a period of months.

If such a phenomenon were to occur it could result in the development of an inland sea in the Central Valley of California - like an inland Gulf of Mexico.



Skip from 04:50 to 06:30 on the video
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What is an ARkStorm?

An ARkStorm is a hypothetical but scientifically realistic "superstorm" scenario developed and published by the United States Geological Survey, Multi Hazards Demonstration Project (MHDP).

[link to urbanearth.gps.caltech.edu]

It describes an extreme storm that could drop ten feet of rain on California, a storm which would likely impact much of California causing up to $725 billion in damages and repair (most caused by flooding), and affect a quarter of California's homes. The event would be similar to intense California storms which occurred in 1861 and 1862.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The "ARkStorm Scenario," prepared by the U.S. Geological Survey and released at the ARkStorm Summit in Sacramento on Jan. 13 – 14, 2011 combines prehistoric geologic flood history in California with modern flood mapping and climate-change projections to produce a hypothetical, but plausible, scenario aimed at preparing the emergency response community for this type of hazard.

[link to www.usgs.gov]

ARkStorm - West Coast Storm Scenario

The Central Valley experiences hypothetical flooding 300 miles long and 20 or more miles wide.

Serious flooding also occurs in Orange County, Los Angeles County, San Diego, the San Francisco Bay area, and other coastal communities.

Windspeeds in some places reach 125 miles per hour, hurricane-force winds. Across wider areas of the state, winds reach 60 miles per hour.

Hundreds of landslides damage roads, highways, and homes.
Property damage exceeds $300 billion, most from flooding.

Power, water, sewer, and other lifelines experience damage that takes weeks or months to restore.

Flooding evacuation could involve 1.5 million residents in the inland region and delta counties.

Business interruption costs reach $325 billion in addition to the $400 billion property repair costs.

This means that an ARkStorm could cost on the order of $725 billion, which is nearly 3 times the loss deemed to be realistic by the ShakeOut authors for a severe southern California earthquake, an event with roughly the same annual occurrence probability.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Massive Storms of 1861-1862

Beginning on Christmas Eve, 1861, and continuing into early 1862, an extreme series of storms lasting 45 days struck California.

The storms caused severe flooding, turning the Sacramento Valley into an inland sea, forcing the State Capital to be moved from Sacramento to San Francisco for a time, and requiring Governor Leland Stanford to take a rowboat to his inauguration.

[link to urbanearth.gps.caltech.edu]

William Brewer, author of “Up and down California,” wrote on January 19, 1862, “The great central valley of the state is under water—the Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys—a region 250 to 300 miles long and an average of at least twenty miles wide, or probably three to three and a half millions of acres!”

In southern California lakes were formed in the Mojave Desert and the Los Angeles Basin. The Santa Ana River tripled its highest-ever estimated discharge, cutting arroyos into the southern California landscape and obliterating the ironically named Agua Mansa (Smooth Water), then the largest community between New Mexico and Los Angeles.

The storms wiped out nearly a third of the taxable land in California, leaving the State bankrupt.

The 1861-62 series of storms were probably the largest and longest California storms on record.

However, geological evidence suggests that earlier, prehistoric floods were likely even bigger.

There is no scientific evidence to suggest that such extreme storms could not happen again.

[link to urbanearth.gps.caltech.edu]

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Could we actually be that lucky??

Goodbye LIBTARDS....

Praying for ARKSTORM... banana2
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April fools!
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April fools!
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No April fools, this is REAL information.
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April fools!
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No April fools, this is REAL information.
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I know, that's just me hoping it doesn't happen.
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oh my,have u read the thread from the guy who gets word from the lord?DRIP DROP judgement day cometh.an ARK storm sounds very much like it.anyways thanx for the thread .please keep us updated as things develope.peace
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"Arkstorm" could devastate California

Marcia McNutt, U.S. Geological Survey Director says, “An atmospheric river comes in from the Pacific ocean, and dumps days of rain on California.”

“It takes out one-fourth of the homes in California, one-third of the agricultural land and one-third of the taxable land in California and renders it inoperable,” says McNutt.

Experts warn the economic loss from an “arkstorm” could be four to five times greater than a magnitude 8-point-0 earthquake, reaching a trillion dollars.

[link to www.fox40.com]



Walls of water 10ft high in a month-long mega hurricane: California told to prepare for biblical 'ARkStorm'

Scientists are now warning Californians that the long-awaited 'big one' earthquake could be the least of their environmental concerns.

Another more deadly threat awaits the West coast of America - in the form of a biblical ‘ARkStorm’, which could bring death and destruction on a scale never before seen.

Walls of water 10ft high, rain falling in feet instead of inches, and nine million people’s homes flooded during a hurricane-like megastorm that could last more than month.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Not unlike the 'Great Red Spot' of Jupiter.

A superstorm that rages on for hundreds and thousands of years, destroying everything in it's path.

And there's nothing anyone can do to stop it!
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oh my,have u read the thread from the guy who gets word from the lord?DRIP DROP judgement day cometh.an ARK storm sounds very much like it.anyways thanx for the thread .please keep us updated as things develope.peace
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Wow. Thanks for mentioning this.

Your comment led me to go take a look at this thread that was posted on June 8, 2011.

Thread: " Drip Drop Drip Drop Judgement Day, " Says the Lord Jesus Christ [Published 6/8/11]

In it, the OP (Once4All) asks what does "Drip Drop Drip Drop Judgement Day, Says the Lord Jesus Christ" mean?

One commenter (Lisa*Lisa) stated that it could refer to the flood of noah's day. When it started raining the "judgment day" for them came.

The same commenter also pointed out that there is a book entitled Drip Drop Noah's Ark.

[link to johngarratt.com.au]
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Not unlike the 'Great Red Spot' of Jupiter.

A superstorm that rages on for hundreds and thousands of years, destroying everything in it's path.

And there's nothing anyone can do to stop it!
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That's a very interesting parallel to note.

There is the storm that is known as the 'Great Red Spot' on Jupiter that has raged on for a very long time as you mentioned.

Here's a little more detail on the 'Great Red Spot'.

The Great Red Spot is a great anti-cyclonic (high pressure) storm akin to a hurricane on Earth, but it is enormous (three Earths would fit within its boundaries) and it has persisted for at least the 400 years that humans have observed it through telescopes.

Presumably the persistence of the Great Red Spot is related to the fact that it never comes over land, as in the case of a hurricane on Earth, and that it is driven by Jupiter's internal heat source.

[link to csep10.phys.utk.edu]

There is also the new storm on Saturn. Scientists describe it this way.

A giant early-spring storm in Saturn's northern hemisphere [is] so powerful that it stretches around the entire planet. The rare storm has been wreaking havoc for months and shooting plumes of gas high into the planet's atmosphere.

A storm like this is rare. This is only the sixth one to be recorded since 1876, and the last was way back in 1990.

[Scientists first] detected the large disturbance in December 2010. As it rapidly expanded, the storm's core developed into a giant, powerful thunderstorm, producing a 3,000-mile-wide (5,000-kilometer-wide) dark vortex possibly similar to Jupiter's Great Red Spot.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

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Video of Weather Expert Satellite Images

A satellite view of the weather over the Pacific Ocean and the U.S. currently shows a strong low pressure system off the coast of California that due to a "broken" gulf stream could stall in its present position for months.
 Quoting: Biochemky


Maybe a series of low pressure systems will bring a period of continuous rainfall -- as has occurred in the past -- but not just a single one that somehow gets stuck in one location.

On most occasions when it's wetter than normal in Calif, that's due to the jet stream bringing low pressure systems farther south than normal and causing them to move almost horizontally west to east over Calif on a constant basis. That has been called the "pineapple express."

As of right now, the 5-day 500 millibar chart doesn't show any low pressure system becoming stalled over the west coast, so I don't see signs of an ARKStorm:

[link to weather.unisys.com]
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Pineapple Express with no off switch hmm
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Video of Weather Expert Satellite Images

A satellite view of the weather over the Pacific Ocean and the U.S. currently shows a strong low pressure system off the coast of California that due to a "broken" gulf stream could stall in its present position for months.
 Quoting: Biochemky


Maybe a series of low pressure systems will bring a period of continuous rainfall -- as has occurred in the past -- but not just a single one that somehow gets stuck in one location.

On most occasions when it's wetter than normal in Calif, that's due to the jet stream bringing low pressure systems farther south than normal and causing them to move almost horizontally west to east over Calif on a constant basis. That has been called the "pineapple express."

As of right now, the 5-day 500 millibar chart doesn't show any low pressure system becoming stalled over the west coast, so I don't see signs of an ARKStorm:

[link to weather.unisys.com]
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aye...NWS Indicates it stalling somewhat over the Eastern Rockies or Central Midwest for a spell tho...
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Video of Weather Expert Satellite Images

A satellite view of the weather over the Pacific Ocean and the U.S. currently shows a strong low pressure system off the coast of California that due to a "broken" gulf stream could stall in its present position for months.
 Quoting: Biochemky


Maybe a series of low pressure systems will bring a period of continuous rainfall -- as has occurred in the past -- but not just a single one that somehow gets stuck in one location.

On most occasions when it's wetter than normal in Calif, that's due to the jet stream bringing low pressure systems farther south than normal and causing them to move almost horizontally west to east over Calif on a constant basis. That has been called the "pineapple express."

As of right now, the 5-day 500 millibar chart doesn't show any low pressure system becoming stalled over the west coast, so I don't see signs of an ARKStorm:

[link to weather.unisys.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6011559


Did you watch the video at the top of the first post?

Here's a short satellite weather loop from the last 24 hours:

[link to www.weather.gov]

Also, the jet stream being "broken" is a new development. We have no history on how this will affect us.

But, what we do know is the jet stream is what moves the weather systems along their tracks and prevents them from stalling out over the same location.

However, if the jet stream is broken, and scientists are claiming that it is, we are in unchartered territory.
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ten feet of rainhiding
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We had the wettest March ever on record in Oregon, and there is hardly any sign of it letting up for more than 12 hours at a time. I have mud puddles in my yard where there have never been any in the 12 years I have lived in this house.
Something is fucked up big time.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that it snowed 5 times here in March.

So I dont know about this ARCstorm, but I am sick of the rain.
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Did you watch the video at the top of the first post?

Here's a short satellite weather loop from the last 24 hours:

[link to www.weather.gov]
 Quoting: Biochemky


Why did the maker of that video have any reason to believe the low pressure system he was focusing on a few days ago would become stationary? If he had looked at the forecast charts at that time, he'd have had even more reason to guess an ArkStorm wasn't in the making. So I don't get why he raised the possibility of it happening to begin with, even more so since he also said that such a condition wasn't likely to occur at this time.

The weather loop does show exactly what has happened over the past day: an average storm front moving through Calif. It's supposed to warm up tomorrow, on Monday, as high as around 80 degrees.
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What happened to my beloved GLP????.
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[link to www.weatherbank.com]

Just look at the poor thing.. All sorts of messed up.

Wonder what the oceanic currents look like, I cant find a good map representing them. Lots of number charts, But I'm to lazy to cart them to a map.
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If this and an additional major EQ could devastate the whole West Coast hence this,

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Has the Earth tilted enough to put CA where WA used to be? LOL
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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Could start reforming the ancient Lake Bonneville?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Could we actually be that lucky??

Goodbye LIBTARDS....

Praying for ARKSTORM... banana2
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Grow up! This libtard stuff is getting old.
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Could we actually be that lucky??

Goodbye LIBTARDS....

Praying for ARKSTORM... banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


Grow up! This libtard stuff is getting old.
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hurt your feelings??? wtf
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This winter?
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Does this relate to the "snowicane" that is now formed in the Gulf of Alaska ?

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