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The field of HUMAN INTERACTION

 
Seer777
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Yes, I was proposing the possibilities of dream bridges...and the potential therein.

Also, I did muse on such, which is why I often mentioned 'proper intention'.

I think it would quite interesting to experiment and see if this can be done.


In no way was I suggesting engaging in sexual conduct within said 'dream share'...

It was only a musing JB.


As I mentioned, I am open to any new information regarding the energy dance, as I have been waiting on such for some time...


ColorWave
hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Dreaming attention is derived from sexual energy. So all engagement by two dreamers in the astral realm would be 'engaging in sexual conduct'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


What is your source on this?

I would like to read it if you can offer it.



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11/06/2012 05:12 PM

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What is your source on this?

I would like to read it if you can offer it.



hf
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It is discussed at various points throughout Castaneda's works. It is considered to be fact according to all of the characters throughout the series of books.

Don Matus often said that to completely abstain from physical sex was the proper way to conserve the energy necessary for dreaming attention.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
Seer777
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What is your source on this?

I would like to read it if you can offer it.



hf
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It is discussed at various points throughout Castaneda's works. It is considered to be fact according to all of the characters throughout the series of books.

Don Matus often said that to completely abstain from physical sex was the proper way to conserve the energy necessary for dreaming attention.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Yes as in several disciplines...to conserve ones sexual energy can be utilized in many ways.

However, does that make the entire dream experience one of purely sexual energy?

I would think no.


But that is just what I have been able to glean by what you offered so far.

hmm
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11/06/2012 06:54 PM

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What is your source on this?

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hf
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It is discussed at various points throughout Castaneda's works. It is considered to be fact according to all of the characters throughout the series of books.

Don Matus often said that to completely abstain from physical sex was the proper way to conserve the energy necessary for dreaming attention.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Yes as in several disciplines...to conserve ones sexual energy can be utilized in many ways.

However, does that make the entire dream experience one of purely sexual energy?

I would think no.


But that is just what I have been able to glean by what you offered so far.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Just because one has an abundance of sexual energy doesn't necessarily mean one has the capacity to exercise the controlled awareness required to transform it into dreaming attention.

This is where unbending intent and the focus of a disciplined mind come into play.

“The art of dreaming is the capacity to utilize one’s ordinary dreams and transform them into controlled awareness by virtue of a specialized form of attention called dreaming attention.”
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
Jonny Blaze

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11/06/2012 06:55 PM

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If it is uncontrolled...well...you've heard of the 'wet dream'.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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11/06/2012 06:58 PM
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Good turn in the focus... The grey area of tension that surrounds a high sex energy output... Prime for misunderstandings....Will expand on that in a bit...

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What is your source on this?

I would like to read it if you can offer it.



hf
 Quoting: Seer777


It is discussed at various points throughout Castaneda's works. It is considered to be fact according to all of the characters throughout the series of books.

Don Matus often said that to completely abstain from physical sex was the proper way to conserve the energy necessary for dreaming attention.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Yes as in several disciplines...to conserve ones sexual energy can be utilized in many ways.

However, does that make the entire dream experience one of purely sexual energy?

I would think no.


But that is just what I have been able to glean by what you offered so far.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Just because one has an abundance of sexual energy doesn't necessarily mean one has the capacity to exercise the controlled awareness required to transform it into dreaming attention.

This is where unbending intent and the focus of a disciplined mind come into play.

“The art of dreaming is the capacity to utilize one’s ordinary dreams and transform them into controlled awareness by virtue of a specialized form of attention called dreaming attention.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I agree.

Practice makes perfect, as with anything.


I assume it is similar to what one can do in meditation.

Focused intent.


I practiced every technique I could find to induce lucid dreaming for years. I just don't really have the gift...or it was not in my path to be proficient in such.

I do it on occasion, but very rarely.

hf



hmm
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I agree.

Practice makes perfect, as with anything.


I assume it is similar to what one can do in meditation.

Focused intent.


I practiced every technique I could find to induce lucid dreaming for years. I just don't really have the gift...or it was not in my path to be proficient in such.

I do it on occasion, but very rarely.

hf



hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Same here. I tried obsessively at one point to develop my dreaming attention.

Then I realized that it was far easier for me to fall into a dream through meditation than it was for me to 'realize that I was dreaming' by building lucidity in the way that natural dreamers do.

I've accepted that, and carried on with the art of stalking. Part of becoming self-aware is to realize where your talents lie and take full advantage of them.

Both dreaming and stalking lead to the same place. One is just the reverse engineering of the other.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
Seer777
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11/06/2012 07:18 PM

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I agree.

Practice makes perfect, as with anything.


I assume it is similar to what one can do in meditation.

Focused intent.


I practiced every technique I could find to induce lucid dreaming for years. I just don't really have the gift...or it was not in my path to be proficient in such.

I do it on occasion, but very rarely.

hf



hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Same here. I tried obsessively at one point to develop my dreaming attention.

Then I realized that it was far easier for me to fall into a dream through meditation than it was for me to 'realize that I was dreaming' by building lucidity in the way that natural dreamers do.

I've accepted that, and carried on with the art of stalking. Part of becoming self-aware is to realize where your talents lie and take full advantage of them.

Both dreaming and stalking lead to the same place. One is just the reverse engineering of the other.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I did the very same and shifted my focus elsewhere over a year ago.

The states I can induce in meditation are far better than my dreams anyway.


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Jonny Blaze

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11/06/2012 07:26 PM

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I did the very same and shifted my focus elsewhere over a year ago.

The states I can induce in meditation are far better than my dreams anyway.


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To be honest, I haven't spent much time in suspended states of meditation in quite some time...well that's not exactly true.

Over the past 4 weeks or so I have on several occasions stopped my internal dialogue for an hour and a half or so at a time...with an emotional outburst briefly breaking my focus for just a moment or two during the interval.

But I was aimed at something specific. My attention was divided between internal concentration/sensations and external focus.

This is something I've only been able to do since my encounter with the old man.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Are all of you guys unable to manifest with intent during waking conscious moments without meditation?

Wow, sucks to be you guys.
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Are all of you guys unable to manifest with intent during waking conscious moments without meditation?

Wow, sucks to be you guys.
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I am. And it does suck. It sucks really badly. Could you give me some advice on how to do what...what was it...to manifest with intent?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I want to learn!
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Are all of you guys unable to manifest with intent during waking conscious moments without meditation?

Wow, sucks to be you guys.
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Do you often enter threads and attempt to assume others shortcomings after reading a few posts?


What would cause you think such a thing?

Everyone on the Planet does this constantly.

In what regard may be different, but attention continually manifests that with one directs their focus.

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seer doesn't wanna play like I do, AC.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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seer doesn't wanna play like I do, AC.
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