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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/03/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU **PART#3 REVELATION CHAPTER 11** *NOW THAT WE HAVE MORE CLARITY ON THE TWO KINGDOMS,THE TWELVE TRIBES,THE 14400,THE WITNESSES IN HEAVEN,AND THE CANDLESTICKS,LET US NOW TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THE REST OF REVALATION CHAPTER 11*. The Book of Revelation chapter 11 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. NOTES: John is measuring the temple which is the house of Israel Just like Zerubabel measured and built the physical temple in his time.John is measuring the holy people the elect,the obedient the remnant, for they are the temple of the most high for he lives not in temples made of stone. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11Verse 2 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. NOTES:The temple was destroyed 70ad and Israel were scattered around the world and the holy city have been and is being manipulated bu gentiles till this day.Notice 42 months for the gentile rule to be completed in both verses Reference: The book of Luke chapter 2121:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 3 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Reference to SERVITUDE and DESPAIR in SACKCLOTH Lamentations chapter 1 1:2 She weepeth sore in the night, and her tears are on her cheeks: among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: all her friends have dealt treacherously with her, they are become her enemies. 1:3 Judah is gone into captivity because of affliction, and because of *great servitude*: she dwelleth among the heathen, *she findeth no rest*: all her persecutors overtook her between the straits. REFERENCE THE WITNESSES:Isaiah chapter 4343:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 4 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth NOTES: The two kingdoms Israel and Judah will be filled with the spirit of God and his word in the end times.They will have the spirit of porphecy of the olive tress working in them *THE ROOT*= THE LAWS STATUTES COMMANDS AND THE OF THE FATHER *THE LUMP* =THE AGREEING AND ONENESS OF THE WORD AND THE HOLY SPIRT WITH THE FATHER *THE BRANCHES* =HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL WHO WILL JOIN THEMSELVES UNTO THE FATHER AS HE REDEEMS THEM *THE TWO DRAIN PIPES* = THE ANOINTING BEING FROM THE TWO SOURCES THE WORD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT *THE OIL* = THE TEACHINGS OF HIS LAW AND STATUTES *THE BOWL*= ONE COMMON TEACHING GOING TO ALL THE ASSEMBLIES *THE CANDLE STICKS* = THE HOLY ASSEMBLIES *THE LIGHT* = THOSE WHO FOLLOW AND OBEY AND ARE CIRCUMCISED IN SPIRIT ARE LIGHT TO THE UNBELEIVERS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 5 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 6 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 7 11:7And when they shall have finished *their testimony*, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, *and kill them*. "shall make war" War is an organized, armed, and often a 'prolonged conflict' that is carried on between states, nations, or other parties[1][2] typified by extreme aggression, social disruption, and usually high mortality. War should be understood as an actual, intentional and widespread armed conflict between political communities, and therefore is defined as a form of political violence The beast system will bring out armies against these Israelites both the KINGDOM of judah and KINGDOM Ephraim. Tell me who will fight a war against just two men? By the definition of the word war as used in revelation we see it is a wide scale event NOTES:Let us look at verse 7 and try to make a connection here by precept.Here we will see the saints are killed for their testimony which is confirmed in both chapters Reference:Revelation chapter 6 & Revealtion chapter 11 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were *slain* for the word of God, and *for the testimony which they held*: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 8 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Galations 3:13 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree NOTES:Judah was hunged and persecuted just like messiah even in the days of Jeremiah.The expression above is realting to these hangings of judah and I srael in SPIRITUAL BABYLON.This act was like hanging the messiah all over again because he was made curse for us.So they put christ back on the tree Reference: The Book of Lamentation Chapter 5 5:11 They ravished the women in Zion, and the maids in the cities of Judah. 5:12 Princes are hanged up by their hand: the faces of elders were not honoured. REFERENCE:Lamentations Chapter 2:Spiritual death and phyiscal death 2:10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground, and keep silence: they have cast up dust upon their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth: the virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground. 2:11 Mine eyes do fail with tears, my bowels are troubled, my liver is poured upon the earth, for the destruction of the daughter of my people; because the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 9 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. NOTES:This verse is cryptic and symbolic of the spiritual death that happened to Israel in captivity and slavery and persecution in Modern day Babylon which is called spiritually Sodom and Egypt. Reference to the Dead Bodies:lamentations Chapter 1 1:18 The LORD is righteous; for I have rebelled against his commandment: hear, I pray you, all people, and behold my sorrow: my virgins and my young men are gone into captivity. 1:19 I called for my lovers, but they deceived me: my priests and mine elders gave up the ghost in the city, while they sought their meat to relieve their souls. 1:20 Behold, O LORD; for I am in distress: my bowels are troubled; mine heart is turned within me; for I have grievously rebelled: abroad the sword bereaveth, at home there is as death. The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 10 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. NOTES:Reference: to the the nations celebrate and make merry because they became rich of these men in SERVITUDE,but inside it tormented them that they are Israel Reference:The Book Of Lamentation chapter 1 1:21 They have heard that I sigh: there is none to comfort me: all mine enemies have heard of my trouble; they are glad that thou hast done it: thou wilt bring the day that thou hast called, and they shall be like unto me Reference the Book of Habukuk 1:15 They take up all of them with the angle, they catch them in their net, and gather them in their drag: therefore they rejoice and are glad. 1:16 Therefore they sacrifice unto their net, and burn incense unto their drag; because by them their portion is fat, and their meat plenteous. 1:17 Shall they therefore empty their net, and not spare continually to slay the nations? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 11 11:11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. NOTES: 42 MONTHS IS 1260 DAYS WHICH ARE 1260 YEARS WHICH IS 3.5 DAYS.THESE ARE JUBILEES= 1260 YEARS Reference to prove the time line Hosea chapter 6 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. NOTES: 2days meaning 2000 years after messiah 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. 6:4 O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away The Book of Revelation chapter 11 Verse 12 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. Reference:The Book of Revelation chapter 14 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. PLEASE OBSERVE THE LANGUAGE HERE IN VERSE 14 "FIRSTFRUITS" YEH'SHAH ALSO BECAME THE FIRSTFRUIT UNTO THE FATHER ONLY WHEN HE DIED AND WAS RESURRECTED IN HEAVEN.HERE WE HAVE THE 144000 JUDAH AND EPHRAIM AS FIRST FRUITS UNTO THE FATHER AND THE SON.WHICH MEAN THEY WERE EITHER SPIRITUALLY RESURRECTED OR MARTYRED AND TAKEN TO HEAVEN IN A CLOUD AS IN REV 11. Matthew chapter 24 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Corinthians Chapter 15 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 01/04/2013 05:25 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/06/2012 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU when it matures it is but nutrients for a strong oak tree 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12920512 United States 04/06/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU There is no pre-rapture... It comes immediately after the tribulation. It's as plain as day in Matthew Chapter 24. Those who are taken are the ones who are took by God's flood(wrath) and gathered together for the birds to feast on, Luke 17:24-37. The two witnesses testimony will be of Jesus Christ and his righteouseness and they being like-minded with him will peirce the hearts of many. The day the Wheat and Tares are revealed!! Everything was made by him and through him and for him only. The Old Testament testified of his coming and the New testament testifies of his revealing. Two witnesses proving the Lord is true and we make up the third witness that bears testimony of this truth because Jesus Christ lives and he lives righteously through us, these are his true servants!! Oh yes that day is here!! Soon the Lord will be coming on the clouds to take up his saints in his arms and he will wipe away all of our tears... Jesus is still the same yesterday, today, and always!! He will always require a righteous heart because he had a righteous heart. Therefore as he is and lived so should we be and live. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/06/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU There is no pre-rapture... It comes immediately after the tribulation. It's as plain as day in Matthew Chapter 24. Those who are taken are the ones who are took by God's flood(wrath) and gathered together for the birds to feast on, Luke 17:24-37. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12920512 The two witnesses testimony will be of Jesus Christ and his righteouseness and they being like-minded with him will peirce the hearts of many. The day the Wheat and Tares are revealed!! Everything was made by him and through him and for him only. The Old Testament testified of his coming and the New testament testifies of his revealing. Two witnesses proving the Lord is true and we make up the third witness that bears testimony of this truth because Jesus Christ lives and he lives righteously through us, these are his true servants!! Oh yes that day is here!! Soon the Lord will be coming on the clouds to take up his saints in his arms and he will wipe away all of our tears... Jesus is still the same yesterday, today, and always!! He will always require a righteous heart because he had a righteous heart. Therefore as he is and lived so should we be and live. You read but you do not understand this has nothing to do wit prerapture or mid rapture .The rapture is a hoax as I have in another thread. Please read carefully and be slow to answer or respond . Thread: WHO ARE "THE LEFT BEHIND"? YOU BE THE JUDGE! Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/06/2012 09:00 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/06/2012 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU There is no pre-rapture... It comes immediately after the tribulation. It's as plain as day in Matthew Chapter 24. Those who are taken are the ones who are took by God's flood(wrath) and gathered together for the birds to feast on, Luke 17:24-37. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12920512 The two witnesses testimony will be of Jesus Christ and his righteouseness and they being like-minded with him will peirce the hearts of many. The day the Wheat and Tares are revealed!! Everything was made by him and through him and for him only. The Old Testament testified of his coming and the New testament testifies of his revealing. Two witnesses proving the Lord is true and we make up the third witness that bears testimony of this truth because Jesus Christ lives and he lives righteously through us, these are his true servants!! Oh yes that day is here!! Soon the Lord will be coming on the clouds to take up his saints in his arms and he will wipe away all of our tears... Jesus is still the same yesterday, today, and always!! He will always require a righteous heart because he had a righteous heart. Therefore as he is and lived so should we be and live. You read but you do not understand this has nothing to do wit prerapture or mid rapture .The rapture is a hoax as I have in another thread. Please read carefully and be slow to answer or respond . Thread: WHO ARE "THE LEFT BEHIND"? YOU BE THE JUDGE! Thread: THE 7 YEAR TRIBULATION HOAX! WE ARE IN TRIBULATION SINCE 70AD TILL NOW 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/06/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU I believe you are wrong or mistaken about 1260 and have no interest in the truth. The period has been ID as Rome's dark ages (sackcloth) thus two witnesses/candlesticks followed this time when Bible went to all the world (stood up). Quoting: Axx 13145818 its good to believe in something i guess you are right? 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/06/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU you got something better from your sunday school 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/06/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU I believe you are wrong or mistaken about 1260 and have no interest in the truth. The period has been ID as Rome's dark ages (sackcloth) thus two witnesses/candlesticks followed this time when Bible went to all the world (stood up). Quoting: Axx 13145818 its good to believe in something i guess you are right?Partially correct but the 144000 are the ones will have the revival in the last days,they will wake up Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/06/2012 10:58 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Medic User ID: 1366222 United States 04/06/2012 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU I dont go to " Sunday school" I was brought up catholic, but attend a Baptist church, becuase they follow the scriptures and dont add anything. Why are you so set on this? The bottom line is..... Jesus is our Lord and Savior, with out him we perish. We either accept him or we dont. Those that accept him live forever in eternal paradise, those that dont, eternal hell. That is what we should be preaching not who or what the 2 witnesses are. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/07/2012 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU I dont go to " Sunday school" I was brought up catholic, but attend a Baptist church, becuase they follow the scriptures and dont add anything. Why are you so set on this? The bottom line is..... Jesus is our Lord and Savior, with out him we perish. We either accept him or we dont. Those that accept him live forever in eternal paradise, those that dont, eternal hell. That is what we should be preaching not who or what the 2 witnesses are. Quoting: Medic well you need to study and read before you make assumptions .It is quite evident you do not understand the scriptures. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Medic User ID: 1366222 United States 04/07/2012 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU Yes I do understand the scriptures. I believe you are stuck on a few items regarding the 2 witnesses. many sects get stuck on a scripture or 2 and base their entire belief system on those. The entire bible must be taken into the entire context. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/07/2012 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU Yes I do understand the scriptures. I believe you are stuck on a few items regarding the 2 witnesses. many sects get stuck on a scripture or 2 and base their entire belief system on those. The entire bible must be taken into the entire context. Quoting: Medic Again I say to you there is a reason why all these topics are in the bible and many are in parables and we have to search them out precept upon precept.Like I said this topic is not for you to understnad right now, maybe later on in your walk it will make sense to you. I suggest you keep pressing on into the deeper things of EH'YEH and wean yourself from the milk. We all know the messiah died for us that we might obtain salvation and that we must walk in obedience to his commands and laws and statutes. There is much more than just that!So again before you make attacks on a thread with out even reading it in its entirety,and comparing the scriptures which are in your bible,I suggest you stay silent if you have nothing to backup what you saying than just "FALSE TEACHINGS" 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/07/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 9984984 United States 04/07/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE TWO WITNESSES/ THE TWO OLIVE TREES/ AND THE 144000 PART # 2 & PART # 3 "COMPLETED!" THANK YOU will do! 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |