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(CBS News) In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president's bluff -- ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.

The order, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, appears to be in direct response to the president's comments yesterday about the Supreme Court's review of the health care law. Mr. Obama all but threw down the gauntlet with the justices, saying he was "confident" the Court would not "take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."

The panel ordered the Justice Department to submit a three-page, single-spaced letter by noon Thursday addressing whether the Executive Branch believes courts have such power, the lawyer said.


UPDATE 6 p.m. ET:
The White House is declining to comment on the 5th Circuit's order, but the president today did clarify his comments that it would be "unprecedented" for the Court to overturn laws passed by a democratically elected Congress. During a question-and-answer session after a luncheon speech in Washington, a journalist pointed out "that is exactly what the Court has done during its entire existence."

UPDATE 6:55 p.m. ET:

In asking for the letter, Smith said: "I want to be sure you're telling us that the attorney general and the Department of Justice do recognize the authority of the federal courts, through unelected judges, to strike acts of Congress or portions thereof in appropriate cases."


[link to www.ca5.uscourts.gov] AUDIO Physician Hospitals of America, et al v. Kathleen


Here is what he said............





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This'll be interesting, when Obama unleashes his cadre of "creative writers" on THIS one! popcorn
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If the court has no right to strike down unconstitutional federal laws, then we don't need them at all. That is what they are there for.

Well, they don't have much time to answer, which is a good thing, gives them less time to conjure up bs.
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Entertainment for the sheep to help keep them occupied while being fleeced.


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It would be great to watch the Obama administration publically humiliated by their own defiant ignorance of constitutional law... again, but for that to happen, the press would have to make it an issue and they are too busy trying to start a race war to misdirect the sheople, rally useful idiots and keep attention off of Sheriff Joe’s investigation over Obama’s fraudulent IDs. Besides, they don’t like to air the Marxist in Chief’s dirty laundry.

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This should be good. Well hopefully this should be good. With the way the government is being run right now nothing would surprise me.
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The President is wondering how serious the rethuglicans on the Supreme Court really are about "judicial activism."

Are they dishonest rethuglican party hacks and judicial activists, or are they impartial judges?

Which is it?
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I guess a harvard degree ain't what it used to be.
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the new sherriff's a kenyan !

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[link to www.cbsnews.com]

(CBS News) In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president's bluff -- ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.

The order, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, appears to be in direct response to the president's comments yesterday about the Supreme Court's review of the health care law. Mr. Obama all but threw down the gauntlet with the justices, saying he was "confident" the Court would not "take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."

The panel ordered the Justice Department to submit a three-page, single-spaced letter by noon Thursday addressing whether the Executive Branch believes courts have such power, the lawyer said.

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sounds like things are really gonna wierded now...wonder if the fema contract went thru???
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blink Wow.

Maybe food for the sheep - we'll see if that's true when the media handles it as other cases of late.
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From the article: Appeals Court Judge Jerry Smith immediately interrupted, asking if DOJ agreed that the judiciary could strike down an unconstitutional law.

The DOJ lawyer, Dana Lydia Kaersvang, answered yes.....




So, the court just wants to make it very very clear to the Executive Branch I guess!!!! ;)
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It would be great to watch the Obama administration publically humiliated by their own defiant ignorance of constitutional law... again, but for that to happen, the press would have to make it an issue and they are too busy trying to start a race war to misdirect the sheople, rally useful idiots and keep attention off of Sheriff Joe’s investigation over Obama’s fraudulent IDs. Besides, they don’t like to air the Marxist in Chief’s dirty laundry.
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+1! Also-people need to go and take this FRAUD out of the WH in chains! And is someone calls him ''president'' one more time I'll BARF! He ain't my fucking president.
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The President is wondering how serious the rethuglicans on the Supreme Court really are about "judicial activism."

Are they dishonest rethuglican party hacks and judicial activists, or are they impartial judges?

Which is it?
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Jesus, you really are an asshat aren't you? Ever seen the Constitution or are you just pissed cause you ain't gonna git no mo gov cheese.

You scream judicial activism when it goes against you and actually is, unconstitutional. But when it goes in your favor, i.e. prop 187 in Cali you think they're within their right.
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This qualifies the judges for a Gitmo vacation.tomato
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This sounds like a disciplinary action you would get from school teachers. Since you challenged the teacher you now have to write a 3 page letter defining what you believe mr sotero. I`m not even sure I understand the request. They want the executive branch (president) to submit a 3 page letter documenting wether or not the supreme court can overturn federal law/bills/programs? Amd I getting this right? So...what would the letter day? Yes they can turn it over but sotero doesnt want them to? Or no they cant turn it over and theefore he will not respect their decisions? I think maybe what they`re doing is locking him in. If he says yes they can overturn it and kill obamacare, then when they do turn it over they`ll basically have him by the balls to accept their ruling. Right?
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It would be great to watch the Obama administration publically humiliated by their own defiant ignorance of constitutional law... again, but for that to happen, the press would have to make it an issue and they are too busy trying to start a race war to misdirect the sheople, rally useful idiots and keep attention off of Sheriff Joe’s investigation over Obama’s fraudulent IDs. Besides, they don’t like to air the Marxist in Chief’s dirty laundry.
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I'm totally onboard with what you said.

So I second this.
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The President is wondering how serious the rethuglicans on the Supreme Court really are about "judicial activism."

Are they dishonest rethuglican party hacks and judicial activists, or are they impartial judges?

Which is it?
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That's the funniest shit I've heard today! Barry shit in his mess kit this time. I hope the court makes him look like the incompetent boob he really is.

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the new sherriff's a kenyan !

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This is just giving them more time to come up with more BS to tell us. This thing is going to pass, because the puppet masters want it too. Forced vaccinations is one of their main goals. Watch and see.
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Ahhh...so...sotero had DOJ step in and act like they were going to getinvolved...like maybe a bronze verses brains showdown? And the courts said screw you pipsqueaks and realized they were soteros pawns. So...now...they`re going to force the DOJ to show where they stand so that they cannot come back at the courts after the ruling. Did I get it right? Cuz sotero was probly going to use the DOJ to arrest the justices if they went against him.
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I guess a harvard degree ain't what it used to be.
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It never was, for an affirmative action admit.
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the new sherriff's a kenyan !

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rofl.........our fema camp director welcoming us ....
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The President is wondering how serious the rethuglicans on the Supreme Court really are about "judicial activism."

Are they dishonest rethuglican party hacks and judicial activists, or are they impartial judges?

Which is it?
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LOL...Fail
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Ahhh...so...sotero had DOJ step in and act like they were going to getinvolved...like maybe a bronze verses brains showdown? And the courts said screw you pipsqueaks and realized they were soteros pawns. So...now...they`re going to force the DOJ to show where they stand so that they cannot come back at the courts after the ruling. Did I get it right? Cuz sotero was probly going to use the DOJ to arrest the justices if they went against him.
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I don't think they would have arrested the Justices, that's too shocking. But they would play this at least in the press, and I like the way the appellate court put a stop to the bs and demanded clarification.

Anyway, now Obama can go on record and explain himself fully.
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Comment from the article:



by ededdieb April 3, 2012 5:38 PM EDT
You would think a professor of constitutional law whould know that the Surpreme Court Striking down a law as unconstitutional was not unprecedented! As to the them being unelected, that is the point in the constitution! They are supposed to be insulated from politics, so as to insure that they interpret the constitution without prejudice of political pressure. As to the duely elected congress passing the law, that was with extreme pressure from the leadership, with corrupt backroom deals, and against the will of the majority of the people. That the will of the people was abrogated was evidenced with the 2010 election results.
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I am waiting for Obammy to call those who oppose his views a racist.

nObama must be throwing a tryanical tantrum over not being able to control the Supremes.

So telling of his attitude and disrespect towards the Constitution, but the SCOTUS is the last line of defense in that regard. Wonder if they can play a role in his impeachment?

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Scrump, that is the grossest picture ever!
OK, maybe not grossest ever, but grossest this week for sure.
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These are the same rejects that allowed gay marriage. Off with their heads.
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