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As of today, 4/3/2012, Timewave Zero begins the downward spiral to the end of time

 
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Yea, this whole thing seems like it's just about to blow. Korea, Syria and Iran. Something tells me if one goes the whole things going to blow up.
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The 9th wasn't supposed to prove anything! The 9th is only the lowest the Novelty factor will be. It's ever increasing beyond that point.

That's it, that's all. It wasn't intended to predict the market, nor predict anything for that matter! People have grossly mixed everything up with this one. It is an Novelty index, nothing more, nothing less.

Everything else is pure speculation. So if my interpretation of the Theory of Gravity is wrong, it is I that is wrong, not the Theory!
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In your opinion what does that mean?
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Time is a wave, like throwing a rock in a universal pond, time is the wave that follows. Timewave Zero only graphs this time ondulation. It is not an apocalyptic prophecy, it is only a mathematical representation. If my memory is correct, the second half of McKenna's True Hallucinations contains all of his mathematical formulae and concepts. Initially, McKenna's Timewave Zero theory put the end of our time wave on December 24th. It was later picked apart by mathematicians for containing errors. Once it was re-built, the end-day fell on the 21st instead.

Now, interpretations about what the end of our time wave means, but I don't think even McKenna knew for sure. It is hard to fully understand something when you are part of it, think about Turing's Paradox (which is now part of a bigger one, called Quantum Zeno effect).

Personally, I think we won't feel the effects of our time wave or spiral collapsing on itself, just like the actors of a movie have no idea and receive no effect from the viewer's usage of the fast-forward button. Think of it like being airborne, you will feel the acceleration to take off, but once in the air, you can't feel how fast you're actually going, you feel just like you would, at home, sitting in front of the computer...
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Rick Santorum just dropped out of the race.

Gold and silver going oddly vertical in the last few hours.

Warmest March in history.

Poles melting and wandering.

Aunt Betsy and Uncle Lou are living under a bridge.

Race relations getting ready to xpl* de with New Black Panthers inciting murder with impunity.

Korea missile launch, Iran saber rattling, US sending aircraft carriers, Israel chafing at the bit, Syria can't make up it's mind who to kill.

Markets in Europe teetering on the brink, dollar ready to follow.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

All in all, it's kind of novel to have so much going so weird at once, and it's not looking good any time soon.

One well aimed solar flare, one bank run, one Middle East atomic war, and things will be very different for all of us for a long time.
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Rick Santorum just dropped out of the race.

Gold and silver going oddly vertical in the last few hours.

Warmest March in history.

Poles melting and wandering.

Aunt Betsy and Uncle Lou are living under a bridge.

Race relations getting ready to xpl* de with New Black Panthers inciting murder with impunity.

Korea missile launch, Iran saber rattling, US sending aircraft carriers, Israel chafing at the bit, Syria can't make up it's mind who to kill.

Markets in Europe teetering on the brink, dollar ready to follow.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

All in all, it's kind of novel to have so much going so weird at once, and it's not looking good any time soon.

One well aimed solar flare, one bank run, one Middle East atomic war, and things will be very different for all of us for a long time.
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The only post that truely quantifies, tangibly, our current collective reality. No pun intended, but only time will tell how true and or accurate this hypothesis is.

Peace,

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The timewave theory is vague, pseudoscientific nonsense. I read all of Mckenna's books in college 10+ years ago, and it never made sense...

Basically he took the patterns of the different i-ching hexagrams, made them into a graph, and then applied the shape of that graph to a timeline, which he arbitrarily started at various historical points in the past and then ascribed the peaks and valleys of the graph to big events that represented "novelty" to him.. The most recent cycle of the timewave was started ARBITRARILY on the date of the Hiroshima bombing because McKenna theorized it represented a point of extreme novelty. However, starting the cycle on that date meant it would end in November of 2012... so, he fudged the date to make it align with the mayan calendar end date of 12/21/2012. That is all there is to it!

I think most people who believe in the timewave theory have never actually read McKenna's writings on it, they probably just learned about it from youtube videos. Read a book, morans!

[link to www.viewzone.com]

When he finally arrived at the shape of the Timewave, McKenna then had to superimpose it on historical events. He placed the beginning of the wave at the theoretical beginning of the universe, more than 15 billion years ago. Here, the Timewave graph began at zero and spiked up to reach a high degree of organization. As he plotted the wave he realized that it eventually reached zero at the end. Further, this end was in our present era!

The last harmonic of the wave has a duration of 67.29 years, marked again by some dramatic event at the onset of the pattern. At first McKenna placed this event with the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. This worked out to the graph reaching zero in mid-November of 2012. Later, when he learned of the end date of the Mayan calendar, he adjusted the wave to coincide with this time.


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consciousness is rising...



no more need for wall street and other bullshit...






only love & light,






like on other spiritual worlds:)





remember?
love, joy, truth
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some guy on another thread from like august 2011 said something would happen tomorrow. (this is my bump )
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Interesting

I will look for this
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a friend of mine is telling me for more than 10 months everytime i see him that on the 5th or 6th of april the whole world will be shaken by a giant quake.


perfectly fits in this thread, we will see soon
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Your friend was pretty accurate....8.7 Indonesia quake a few hours ago....4/11/12
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Looks like we are in the downward spiral.
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The timewave theory is vague, pseudoscientific nonsense. I read all of Mckenna's books in college 10+ years ago, and it never made sense...

Basically he took the patterns of the different i-ching hexagrams, made them into a graph, and then applied the shape of that graph to a timeline, which he arbitrarily started at various historical points in the past and then ascribed the peaks and valleys of the graph to big events that represented "novelty" to him.. The most recent cycle of the timewave was started ARBITRARILY on the date of the Hiroshima bombing because McKenna theorized it represented a point of extreme novelty. However, starting the cycle on that date meant it would end in November of 2012... so, he fudged the date to make it align with the mayan calendar end date of 12/21/2012. That is all there is to it!

I think most people who believe in the timewave theory have never actually read McKenna's writings on it, they probably just learned about it from youtube videos. Read a book, morans!

[link to www.viewzone.com]

When he finally arrived at the shape of the Timewave, McKenna then had to superimpose it on historical events. He placed the beginning of the wave at the theoretical beginning of the universe, more than 15 billion years ago. Here, the Timewave graph began at zero and spiked up to reach a high degree of organization. As he plotted the wave he realized that it eventually reached zero at the end. Further, this end was in our present era!

The last harmonic of the wave has a duration of 67.29 years, marked again by some dramatic event at the onset of the pattern. At first McKenna placed this event with the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. This worked out to the graph reaching zero in mid-November of 2012. Later, when he learned of the end date of the Mayan calendar, he adjusted the wave to coincide with this time.


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big statements there man, i mean what is a pseudoscience? or is it easy to label a unique theory that is speculative in its very nature as 'pseudoscience' by unimaginative people? i think so...

moving dates? to plot a graph of a time-wave based on the I-ching (being that Mckenna was not a mathematician) from the hypothesised beginning of time would be a very complicated thing, would it not be in the nature of the experiment to move the final zero point to December the 21st 2012 as it seems everything points to that date across the board? (and also over billions of years, coming to mid November is very very very close relatively speaking i would imagine on a scale of 12 inches, the movement from mid novemeber to december 21st would be less than a millimetre, i think most people would 'logically' realize that this very very complicated equation could be slightly off.

not all experiments can be done in a nice little laboratory with a man in a white coat and a clip board, this was very "out-there" science, it was Mckenna goddam it, what would you expect?

to try and debunk the whole thing based on opinion disguised as fact is not cool, the way you've written this is almost believable. my opinion here is for others to help them not get sucked into your way of thinking so they keep asking questions, whats the point otherwise?

and whats the point of science or anything for that matter if your only going to perform things you know you can prove?

to apply your mentality to art would be to instruct all artists in all forms to never attempt to create anything new or try out new things...

I am not saying either that this theory is correct but it is very interesting none the less and deserves looking at at least, especially as we are nearing "crunch time" then as always time will tell....

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Right at the point that the graph tipped to go down a couple of days ago, panic swept the eurozone and the stocks were sliding. Now, looking at the graph for today to friday, the graph ticks up slightly. Well the markets rebounded today!

However, on friday it starts diving again, so lets see if the markets go to shit again at the weekend. I'm betting they do.
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Oh shit

Steep drop in the graph today

8.9 mag earthquake in sumatra
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Re: As of today, 4/3/2012, Timewave Zero begins the downward spiral to the end of time
Check this thread:


Thread: The "peaks" of Timewave Zero in 2011 and in 2012 coincide with very large earthquakes


What you think?
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
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I think you are exactly right my friend

I can't believe i was looking at the wrong chart

It is startling to see a 8.9 eq on the day the graph falls off the table
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
 Quoting: OP 14202557



In that thread that I posted a link above, there is a video posted on YouTube on April 4th that says exactly that: the date for the step drop is April 11th.
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
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In that thread that I posted a link above, there is a video posted on YouTube on April 4th that says exactly that: the date for the step drop is April 11th.
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Yes i watched that - good reference as well

Holy shit dude

What does this mean for the rest of the year?
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
 Quoting: OP 14202557



In that thread that I posted a link above, there is a video posted on YouTube on April 4th that says exactly that: the date for the step drop is April 11th.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548221


Yes i watched that - good reference as well

Holy shit dude

What does this mean for the rest of the year?
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
 Quoting: OP 14202557



In that thread that I posted a link above, there is a video posted on YouTube on April 4th that says exactly that: the date for the step drop is April 11th.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548221


Yes i watched that - good reference as well

Holy shit dude

What does this mean for the rest of the year?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14202557


No more EQ's!

5a

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It's really up to you guys now since i blew it with the date

I was wrong. The chart was right. Terence was right

Take care all
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My dying catholic mother in law has not had benedictions for the past 4 years due to the fact that where we live there is no catholic church. Not a bad thing for me but for her it was difficult. This week a wondering contemplative who used to be a priest came into the village, the most beautiful being I have met in a long time. He did a service with her and since then she has been so light and joyous. So filled with peace.

I am in the kitchen making carrot and apple juice. I fill up three glasses. A friend arrives and something makes me pour the three glasses back into the jug and re pour them. Without adding anything I am now able to fill 4 glasses.

So many times in the past week people arrived at meal times and somehow the food was enough to go around. Cooked for 8 and fed up to thirteen. Astonishing really. Sounds insignificant but it is huge.
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Today was the real tipping point

Two 8+ mag earthquakes, 1 7.0. 1 5.9
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
 Quoting: OP 14202557


Holy shit you're right
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Something needs to be said here - I am the OP

I misinterpreted the graph, i will admit that much. The date for the steep drop in 2012 was today, 4/11


8.9 earthquake today

If you think i'm full of shit google the timewave chart for just the year 2012

You will see the peak matches exactly with today
 Quoting: OP 14202557


It's really up to you guys now since i blew it with the date

I was wrong. The chart was right. Terence was right

Take care all
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Very gracious, but please don't leave, OP.
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and so what? what is suppose to happen
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Can someone post that picture of the 2012 timewave?
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You all need to watch this

[link to m.youtube.com]

This shows that the real drop on the graph happened today!

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