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It is Apallo 19.
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That's that shit that killed Elvis. No wait, it's just Rollin' Danny.
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So the whole world is getting upset about Norh Korea attempting to launch a test rocket, and Iran attempting to harness atomic energy

... while the USA is launching 'classified' payloads into our earth's atmosphere!

Isn't anyone asking questions?
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I'm thinking it's a spy satellite.


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They already have to many of them its not that
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Yeah they have plenty of those so they should never have to launch another one for all of time....
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Maybe it's a big EMP device, ready to detonate over a city? Blame it on a solar flare, take down the US economy and make it "not their fault".
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Lets hope so that it is a EMP to bring down your economy because your BANKRUPT anyway you american arseholes. But i doubt it your just making something up again like you american arseholes usually do fucking retards.
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At least we can spell the Queen's English over here -- unlike your ARSE who thinks you're a limey bastard.
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Well, at least we can sort of understand them. The fact is the Brits would be writing in German and the Aussies in Japanese, or worse yet, both writing in Russian, if it wasn't for the Americans.
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[link to www.nytimes.com]

"The largest rocket ever launched from the West Coast blasted off Thursday with a classified defense satellite on board. The 235-foot-tall Delta IV Heavy Launch Vehicle lifted off at 1:10 p.m. from Vandenberg Air Force Base, carrying a payload for the National Reconnaissance Office."

This payload was kept top secret. Why is that? What are they doing? Was it a rocket with a spy satellite? Considering it was a fucking large rocket, could it be filled with some form of explosives to hit an in-bound object headed toward us?

Questions, that require answers.
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Maybe they shot Kim Jong Il's mummified body into outerspace...

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Maybe it's a big EMP device, ready to detonate over a city? Blame it on a solar flare, take down the US economy and make it "not their fault".
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Lets hope so that it is a EMP to bring down your economy because your BANKRUPT anyway you american arseholes. But i doubt it your just making something up again like you american arseholes usually do fucking retards.
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At least we can spell the Queen's English over here -- unlike your ARSE who thinks you're a limey bastard.
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Well, at least we can sort of understand them. The fact is the Brits would be writing in German and the Aussies in Japanese, or worse yet, both writing in Russian, if it wasn't for the Americans.
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Lol. We were busy fighting the Germans in Europe when you Americans went and provoked the Japs into the war. Yeah, thanks.
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you want the TRUTH? you can't handle the TRUTH!
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With a payload of up to 28,950 lb, unless there are six boosters added which would give it 100 ton capacity lift.
It could be so many things. Heck, with that kind of power, you don't really need a shuttle to put heavy things in orbit...
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If you ask me that Air force unmanned shuttle is a glorified ICBM. They send it up with a 50 megaton payload and it lays in the weeds until needed. With no launch to detect and only re-entry to pick up on, it can be on target and detonated in probably less than 10 minutes. Not long enough to get Putin out of bed to answer the phone.
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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This payload was kept top secret. Why is that?
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Because spy satellites aren't effective if you blab about what they're for and what they're capable of.
What are they doing? Was it a rocket with a spy satellite? Considering it was a fucking large rocket, could it be filled with some form of explosives to hit an in-bound object headed toward us?
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No. It's a satellite. It's already been observed by amateurs with an approximate orbital determination and it's not even in USSTRATCOM's public catalogue yet.
[link to www.satobs.org]

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Either it is providing maintenance and adding more tech to an existing set up or they are launching the latest in Star War technology whilst maintaining non proliferation of weapons in space as the weapon in pointing towards Earthy and not into space.

Maybe it is an Aerial Active Denial System death beam ray which detects and destroys airbourne missile threats upon launch or in mid-flight
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That wrong rock is going round North Korea because Dear Leader smokes it too. Al Komeinie in Iran, not so much. likes hasheesh and opium hits in his virgin squirt filled water bong.
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Delta 4 rocket successfully lofts surveillance satellite


"Congratulations to the NRO and to all the mission partners involved in this critical national security launch," said ULA Missions Operations Vice President Jim Sponnick. "ULA is proud to have supported this mission and delivered critical capabilities to the men and women defending our freedom throughout the world."

Radar satellites offer all-weather, day-and-night imaging for reconnoitering global hotspots to inform policy makers and warfighters. These newest, advanced spacecraft follow the heritage of five "Lacrosse" radar birds put up by the space shuttle Atlantis and Titan 4 rockets between 1988 and 2005.

The updated satellite design is smaller and less massive, enabling the craft to fly aboard mid-sized Atlas 5 and Delta 4 rockets.

The intelligence-gathering craft probably use a synthetic aperture radar system to observe strategic targets around the globe in both daylight and darkness. The eyes-in-the-sky can pierce clouds and even reveal underground structures like military bunkers....


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[link to www.spaceflightnow.com]
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If you ask me that Air force unmanned shuttle is a glorified ICBM. They send it up with a 50 megaton payload and it lays in the weeds until needed. With no launch to detect and only re-entry to pick up on, it can be on target and detonated in probably less than 10 minutes. Not long enough to get Putin out of bed to answer the phone.
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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Lets say it has two or three rotary warhead launchers in its cargo bay much like the nosecone of a small trident or polaris sub launched thermo nuke missle. Possible. Lets also say its original orbital path takes it over Moscow, Beijing, or maybe in between. Cutting out the launch and mid flight phase of an ICBM cuts time down from thirty minutes to five maybe seven minutes to reach targets. The first warhead launched would be a high altitude EMP blast cutting enemy communications within maybe two or three minutes. Gamechanger.
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Like Pantera says "Dont fuck with this"
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If you ask me that Air force unmanned shuttle is a glorified ICBM. They send it up with a 50 megaton payload and it lays in the weeds until needed. With no launch to detect and only re-entry to pick up on, it can be on target and detonated in probably less than 10 minutes. Not long enough to get Putin out of bed to answer the phone.
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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Lets say it has two or three rotary warhead launchers in its cargo bay much like the nosecone of a small trident or polaris sub launched thermo nuke missle. Possible.
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If it's just the nosecone, how the hell is it going to de-orbit itself? A trident missile wouldn't even come close to fitting in the X-37's payload bay; it's too wide and way too long. Just the nosecone though is not going to be able to do what you're suggesting it should do.
Cutting out the launch and mid flight phase of an ICBM cuts time down from thirty minutes to five maybe seven minutes to reach targets.
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5 to 7 minutes? Do you have any idea how much delta-V you would need to put a warhead in orbit on a trajectory that would hit its target in under 10 minutes? You would effectively need to nearly completely nullify all orbital velocity. You're talking about 7 km/sec dela-V.
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If you ask me that Air force unmanned shuttle is a glorified ICBM. They send it up with a 50 megaton payload and it lays in the weeds until needed. With no launch to detect and only re-entry to pick up on, it can be on target and detonated in probably less than 10 minutes. Not long enough to get Putin out of bed to answer the phone.
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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Lets say it has two or three rotary warhead launchers in its cargo bay much like the nosecone of a small trident or polaris sub launched thermo nuke missle. Possible.
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If it's just the nosecone, how the hell is it going to de-orbit itself? A trident missile wouldn't even come close to fitting in the X-37's payload bay; it's too wide and way too long. Just the nosecone though is not going to be able to do what you're suggesting it should do.
Cutting out the launch and mid flight phase of an ICBM cuts time down from thirty minutes to five maybe seven minutes to reach targets.
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5 to 7 minutes? Do you have any idea how much delta-V you would need to put a warhead in orbit on a trajectory that would hit its target in under 10 minutes? You would effectively need to nearly completely nullify all orbital velocity. You're talking about 7 km/sec dela-V.
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Easy Concept. The Airforce unmaned shuttle launching nuclear warheads from its cargo bay. Forget the missle. Do you know how small an independent warhead is? Look up Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicle. MIRV. Airforce jargon.
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Of course the warhead launching system would be different then in a missle.
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Or Unmanned shuttle launching small nuclear missles from its cargo bay. simple. Remember, the first unmanned version is scaled down. The production models are going to be built larger.
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Lets hope so that it is a EMP to bring down your economy because your BANKRUPT anyway you american arseholes. But i doubt it your just making something up again like you american arseholes usually do fucking retards.
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At least we can spell the Queen's English over here -- unlike your ARSE who thinks you're a limey bastard.
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Well, at least we can sort of understand them. The fact is the Brits would be writing in German and the Aussies in Japanese, or worse yet, both writing in Russian, if it wasn't for the Americans.
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Lol. We were busy fighting the Germans in Europe when you Americans went and provoked the Japs into the war. Yeah, thanks.
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If you ask me that Air force unmanned shuttle is a glorified ICBM. They send it up with a 50 megaton payload and it lays in the weeds until needed. With no launch to detect and only re-entry to pick up on, it can be on target and detonated in probably less than 10 minutes. Not long enough to get Putin out of bed to answer the phone.
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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Lets say it has two or three rotary warhead launchers in its cargo bay much like the nosecone of a small trident or polaris sub launched thermo nuke missle. Possible.
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If it's just the nosecone, how the hell is it going to de-orbit itself? A trident missile wouldn't even come close to fitting in the X-37's payload bay; it's too wide and way too long. Just the nosecone though is not going to be able to do what you're suggesting it should do.
Cutting out the launch and mid flight phase of an ICBM cuts time down from thirty minutes to five maybe seven minutes to reach targets.
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5 to 7 minutes? Do you have any idea how much delta-V you would need to put a warhead in orbit on a trajectory that would hit its target in under 10 minutes? You would effectively need to nearly completely nullify all orbital velocity. You're talking about 7 km/sec dela-V.
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Dont say it cant be done, my GI Joe shuttle had nuke missles, and that was back in the 1980s.
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Maybe it's a big EMP device, ready to detonate over a city? Blame it on a solar flare, take down the US economy and make it "not their fault".
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^ I'm going with this ^
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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Lets say it has two or three rotary warhead launchers in its cargo bay much like the nosecone of a small trident or polaris sub launched thermo nuke missle. Possible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10368738

If it's just the nosecone, how the hell is it going to de-orbit itself? A trident missile wouldn't even come close to fitting in the X-37's payload bay; it's too wide and way too long. Just the nosecone though is not going to be able to do what you're suggesting it should do.
Cutting out the launch and mid flight phase of an ICBM cuts time down from thirty minutes to five maybe seven minutes to reach targets.
 Quoting: AC

5 to 7 minutes? Do you have any idea how much delta-V you would need to put a warhead in orbit on a trajectory that would hit its target in under 10 minutes? You would effectively need to nearly completely nullify all orbital velocity. You're talking about 7 km/sec dela-V.
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Easy Concept. The Airforce unmaned shuttle launching nuclear warheads from its cargo bay. Forget the missle. Do you know how small an independent warhead is? Look up Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicle. MIRV. Airforce jargon.
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Don't talk down to me. I know what a MIRV is, and I understand its trajectory apparently better than you do. A MIRV cannot, I repeat, cannot go from orbiting the earth to hitting a target in 5 minutes. A MIRV works by being boosted into a sub-orbital trajectory. It doesn't need to de-orbit because its trajectory isn't in an orbital trajectory to begin with, it will come down on its own over the general region of its targets regardless of whether it actively does anything or not. It doesn't require much delta-V, let alone several km/sec of delta-V, to hit its targets, all it needs is a small amount of delta-V for each warhead to fine tune its trajectory to reach each target. Putting MIRVs into an X-37 is not going to give you the ability to hit a target within 5-7 minutes. At best you can de-orbit and then deploy the MIRVs so that they hit their targets once they reach their perigee point on the other side of the orbit from the de-orbit burn. That's going to take the better part of an hour.
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If you ask me that Air force unmanned shuttle is a glorified ICBM. They send it up with a 50 megaton payload and it lays in the weeds until needed. With no launch to detect and only re-entry to pick up on, it can be on target and detonated in probably less than 10 minutes. Not long enough to get Putin out of bed to answer the phone.
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Err, no it can't. If the orbital plane of the shuttle doesn't pass over the target at the time you happen to need to use it, you may have to wait hours for a window to come open. Now, no one would necessarily know what you were planning until the de-orbit burn, but you're still looking at the better part of an hour from the time you perform the deorbit burn to the time that you're over the target.
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Lets say it has two or three rotary warhead launchers in its cargo bay much like the nosecone of a small trident or polaris sub launched thermo nuke missle. Possible. Lets also say its original orbital path takes it over Moscow, Beijing, or maybe in between. Cutting out the launch and mid flight phase of an ICBM cuts time down from thirty minutes to five maybe seven minutes to reach targets. The first warhead launched would be a high altitude EMP blast cutting enemy communications within maybe two or three minutes. Gamechanger.
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Tesla was focusing electricity, wirelessly, across miles of desert in the early 1900's.

Now, enough energy can be transmitted to any coordinate x,y,z in seconds from the order. With radars and satellites, the ground station pumping these charges (HAARP), can nuetralize anything in the air systematically.

If enough energy is directed into the focal point, spontaneous explosion occurs. The explosion size is relevant to the charge thrown in.
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Why was this pinned? The article is from last January...FAIL
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Why was this pinned? The article is from last January...FAIL
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[link to www.vandenberg.af.mil]
Read the site
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[link to www.space.com]
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