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Internet Trolling could become illegal and punishable by law under House Bill.

 
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Watch Your Comments: Arizona Law Could Punish Trolling With 25 Years


We’d all prefer that the internet was a more civil place. For every well-reasoned, considerate comment out there, there a dozen violent, all-caps homophobic rants. But it’s hard to do anything about it. Unfortunately, part of freedom of speech on the Internet seems to be the freedom of huge numbers of people to be jerks.

Arizona, however, which doesn’t have the best reputation for protecting civil liberties, is doing something about it. The legislature recently passed House Bill 2549, which uses broad language that could turn a troublingly large swath of online chatter into a class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by up to 25 years in jail. It reads:

“It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.”

The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund argues that because the law is not limited to covering one-on-one communications, it could potentially open up the entire world of comments, forums, blog posts and more to criminal scrutiny. Gizmodo notes that because Reddit isn’t exactly a physical location, the law could become concerning to people outside of Arizona as well.

[link to www.forbes.com]
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25 years?lolsign
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Why not take this bill and change it around so it applies to bullying?

“It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.”

I mean I get this is about cracking down on internet freedoms but I think this could be used to fry much bigger fish.
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I see the Heyday of the Internet as come and gone, This is only the beginning.

We already have common sense on when internet stalking and threats are real to warrant outside intervention and when its not.

But this will embolder the newer generation to side with the a broader definition so the Government can step into the internet and control it.
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25 years?lolsign
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Yes.

Turns out you'll get far less jail time if you actually just kill the person instead of insulting them online.
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"House" bill um yeah the Arizona house...soon it will be illegal to be anything other than a white polite christian in that backwards ass state.
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G.House will be done!
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LOL - What a bunch of BS.

I cant even believe how much BS we have to put up with these days.

I often wonder what my great grandfather would think about all this BS if he were still alive.
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I see the Heyday of the Internet as come and gone, This is only the begining.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


The New Dark Age begins around December this year. The Internet goes silent for several years.
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"House" bill um yeah the Arizona house...soon it will be illegal to be anything other than a white polite christian in that backwards ass state.
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Do you live in a cave?

Polite white (heterosexual) Christians are the only unprotected political class in America.
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Watch Your Comments: Arizona Law Could Punish Trolling With 25 Years


We’d all prefer that the internet was a more civil place. For every well-reasoned, considerate comment out there, there a dozen violent, all-caps homophobic rants. But it’s hard to do anything about it. Unfortunately, part of freedom of speech on the Internet seems to be the freedom of huge numbers of people to be jerks.

Arizona, however, which doesn’t have the best reputation for protecting civil liberties, is doing something about it. The legislature recently passed House Bill 2549, which uses broad language that could turn a troublingly large swath of online chatter into a class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by up to 25 years in jail. It reads:

“It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.”

The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund argues that because the law is not limited to covering one-on-one communications, it could potentially open up the entire world of comments, forums, blog posts and more to criminal scrutiny. Gizmodo notes that because Reddit isn’t exactly a physical location, the law could become concerning to people outside of Arizona as well.

[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


One day I fully expect blood to spill in the streets over all the crap being passed. People will only go along with a system so far then a last act will be unleashed and when that happens you better duck and cover.
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can we arrest musicians who sing about their desire to see the world end then, too? because i've got a list of them
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Watch Your Comments: Arizona Law Could Punish Trolling With 25 Years


We’d all prefer that the internet was a more civil place. For every well-reasoned, considerate comment out there, there a dozen violent, all-caps homophobic rants. But it’s hard to do anything about it. Unfortunately, part of freedom of speech on the Internet seems to be the freedom of huge numbers of people to be jerks.

Arizona, however, which doesn’t have the best reputation for protecting civil liberties, is doing something about it. The legislature recently passed House Bill 2549, which uses broad language that could turn a troublingly large swath of online chatter into a class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by up to 25 years in jail. It reads:

“It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.”

The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund argues that because the law is not limited to covering one-on-one communications, it could potentially open up the entire world of comments, forums, blog posts and more to criminal scrutiny. Gizmodo notes that because Reddit isn’t exactly a physical location, the law could become concerning to people outside of Arizona as well.

[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


One day I fully expect blood to spill in the streets over all the crap being passed. People will only go along with a system so far then a last act will be unleashed and when that happens you better duck and cover.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13618985


Ill probaly leave the internet in a few years if this keeps up. Ill just come online for online shopping and thats it. Its turning into scary waters now.
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"Annoy or offend "

Wow, that's everybody screwed then.

Pffffft I don't need babysitting. Wait, its still ok to annoy the shit out of people in real life though right? And swear at them? And offend them?

Phew... that's alright then.
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Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
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So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
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I see the Heyday of the Internet as come and gone, This is only the begining.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


The New Dark Age begins around December this year. The Internet goes silent for several years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13797167


In the Esoteric we are taught another age of de tech is coming up. Ive been told to buy up books and learn how to ride horses, Somethings coming our way and its not good.
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I see the Heyday of the Internet as come and gone, This is only the begining.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


The New Dark Age begins around December this year. The Internet goes silent for several years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13797167


In the Esoteric we are taught another age of de tech is coming up. Ive been told to buy up books and learn how to ride horses, Somethings coming our way and its not good.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


You are exactly correct my friend, except that (as you well know), it *is* good, in the sense that the surgeon's scalpel is good unless you're the tumor.
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04/04/2012 11:23 AM
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well they can shove that bill RIGHT up their arses!

cunts!

oops!
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Congress is powerless as a governing body of ELECTED officials against APPOINTED officials. This has to change NOW.
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I see the Heyday of the Internet as come and gone, This is only the beginning.

 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


I usually do not agree with what you post ... but here you are totally exactly right. And it is not just with this law. The internet was a different thing 10 years back.

5 stars for your thread and I would vote 10 if I could.
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Sorry, the above was my cat.

Golden times for the bots!
Oh sorry, that was my Gilles de la Tourette.

I love you all.
You stink!
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If this is true I will increase my trolling by 500% , and who will they have investigating these cases, identity theft is already huge how do they know they are catching the right trolls
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I see the Heyday of the Internet as come and gone, This is only the begining.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


The New Dark Age begins around December this year. The Internet goes silent for several years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13797167


In the Esoteric we are taught another age of de tech is coming up. Ive been told to buy up books and learn how to ride horses, Somethings coming our way and its not good.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Very interesting... Can you point me in a direction to where I can find info on this age of de-tech?
Congress is powerless as a governing body of ELECTED officials against APPOINTED officials. This has to change NOW.
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Surely offending people depends on the individual. Some things that offend others may not offend me etc.

As Steve Hughes says 'Nothing happens when your offended, deal with it. I'm offended by boy bands for god sake'


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If this is true I will increase my trolling by 500% , and who will they have investigating these cases, identity theft is already huge how do they know they are catching the right trolls
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You assume their goal is to catch the "right" trolls.

It isn't. Their goal is to catch everyone doing something, and if everyone isn't doing something, they'll make shit up.

Did you really think we want those laws observed? said Dr. Ferris. We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be
much easier to deal with. ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957) {WMail Issue #23}
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25 years?lolsign
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Yes.

Turns out you'll get far less jail time if you actually just kill the person instead of insulting them online.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13797167


I could steal car, steal money from some hookers and run them over, and still get less time than going 'trololololol' to someone on the internet.
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Further Arizona gov't is completely insane! They'll find any damn reason, now, for filling up theses new corporate prisons.
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If we could slap a style on the net, Id call it 70s style. lol, even though we werent logged on back then and didnt have computers We still lived out 70s style internet .

Total freedom. Remember the AOL chat rooms?
Youtube (created in 2005) was commercial free. Ebay (1995) in the early days too was awesome and Internet forums was explore at your own risk. It was a expression playground esp in the 90s

It was like riding in the car and pick up trucks in the 70s without seat belts and playing outside not worrying about Pedos and not having to be politically correct.

But now when big corps and regulation steps in, the 70s style net turned into something else. We will need to be ID'd and retina scanned and check out a contract before every log on now. Its coming up.
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My reaction to this law:





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