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Spear of Destiny and Sons of the Fallen

 
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When Jesus was crucified a Roman soldier pierced his side to make sure that he was dead. According to legend, whosoever possesses this holy lance (aka spear of destiny or destiny's lance), and understands the power it serves, holds in his hand, the destiny of the world - for good or evil.

Where is the spear of destiny? Does anybody know about this group known as the Sons of the Fallen?

Here is an episode from The History Channel show Brad Meltzer's Decoded.

[link to www.history.com]

Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
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The Sons of the Fallen story is in the last few minutes of the show. Quite fascinating, if true. Hope someone here can shed some light.
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The Sons of the Fallen story is in the last few minutes of the show. Quite fascinating, if true. Hope someone here can shed some light.
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blame Josh,lol
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Pearl Jam has the spear of destiny? That explains a lot.
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When Jesus was crucified a Roman soldier pierced his side to make sure that he was dead. According to legend, whosoever possesses this holy lance (aka spear of destiny or destiny's lance), and understands the power it serves, holds in his hand, the destiny of the world - for good or evil.

Where is the spear of destiny? Does anybody know about this group known as the Sons of the Fallen?

Here is an episode from The History Channel show Brad Meltzer's Decoded.

[link to www.history.com]

Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
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I don't personally know all about the group the 'Sons of the Fallen", but from personal experience, understand where they are coming from. There are no children of fallen angels as there are no angels, only demons, gods and spirits. On earth there are many people who are the reincarnaation of captured demons. I am one of them. There are two main types of demons, wolfs (lupes) and cat-demons. We have no interest in the affairs of humans, only to have are leaders released from their imprisonment in the so-called pit of Apollyon, and to return to are way of life, if possible. Until that time, we will follow our liege, Lord Orcus Lucifer, who as a human was Remus brother of Romulus. Many of us have been captured over the centuries, reincarnated into human bodies we despise. This is to drive us into despair and into the arms of the Tyrant, Saturn. He is God, Jehovah, Allah, Aten, and many other names. He doesn't care for humans, only as a source of power. Gods are like psychic vampires, deriving their power from the belief of their followers. That is why the Hindu gods have not fallen. That is why there are many gods of death,like Thanatos/Mors, almost everyone believes in them. Heaven isn't in the sky, it is underground. There is a vast world underground. Tuonela, Tartarus, Niflheim-they all esist on a plain created by underground springs that have cooled magma over millenia. That was my home. For over 200 years I fought under the command of Flauros, until due to my own carelessness, I was captured. I spent 5 years in "Heaven", watching my comrades disappear 1 by 1, listening to constant screams. My end came as I was slowly lowered into a pool of water, which felt like acid. The pain made me pass out before I drowned. This water is from 1 of the rivers of the Styx, the moaning river. I can't remember if it is called the Coccytus. I now reside as a second soul inside a girl, a great humiliation. I cannot leave her body. If I learned astral projection, she would be left vulnerable, and we are almost symbiotic, she might die. True sons of the fallen are like me. We aren't here by choice. Humans are a mainly corrupt and disgusting race. I'd like nothing to return to Hell and serve not only Lord Lucifer(he took this name for his relative the morning star), but to also serve his wife, the wondrously beautiful, kind and wise Lady Libitina, and there daughter, Roma. Those demons who possess humans have been exiled here due to criminality, and anyone who claims to be possessed by the devil is a liar, or insane. He is always leading my people against the true forces of evil, the brainwashed gods and human souls who form his army. Our force may be tiny compared to his, but we have courage, traning and a determination no zombie could possess. As you can tell by the constant fighting and murdereing amongst you, your god fears our victory. When the last battle comes, stand by Lucifer. He wants only to return to the life of a minor Roman god of death.
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There is the Sword of Mars or Sword of War God floating around also, BTW.

Last seen in the hands of Attila ?
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The sword is Scychian of cource.
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There are 7 of them as it is utter BS.
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When Jesus was crucified a Roman soldier pierced his side to make sure that he was dead. According to legend, whosoever possesses this holy lance (aka spear of destiny or destiny's lance), and understands the power it serves, holds in his hand, the destiny of the world - for good or evil.

Where is the spear of destiny? Does anybody know about this group known as the Sons of the Fallen?

Here is an episode from The History Channel show Brad Meltzer's Decoded.

[link to www.history.com]

Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
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i know alot about his group but i just found out they had the spear if u want to hear more,alot more send me an email therealshanew@yahoo.com
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cloud has it

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I don't personally know all about the group the 'Sons of the Fallen", but from personal experience, understand where they are coming from. There are no children of fallen angels as there are no angels, only demons, gods and spirits. On earth there are many people who are the reincarnaation of captured demons. I am one of them. There are two main types of demons, wolfs (lupes) and cat-demons. We have no interest in the affairs of humans, only to have are leaders released from their imprisonment in the so-called pit of Apollyon, and to return to are way of life, if possible. Until that time, we will follow our liege, Lord Orcus Lucifer, who as a human was Remus brother of Romulus. Many of us have been captured over the centuries, reincarnated into human bodies we despise. This is to drive us into despair and into the arms of the Tyrant, Saturn. He is God, Jehovah, Allah, Aten, and many other names. He doesn't care for humans, only as a source of power. Gods are like psychic vampires, deriving their power from the belief of their followers. That is why the Hindu gods have not fallen. That is why there are many gods of death,like Thanatos/Mors, almost everyone believes in them. Heaven isn't in the sky, it is underground. There is a vast world underground. Tuonela, Tartarus, Niflheim-they all esist on a plain created by underground springs that have cooled magma over millenia. That was my home. For over 200 years I fought under the command of Flauros, until due to my own carelessness, I was captured. I spent 5 years in "Heaven", watching my comrades disappear 1 by 1, listening to constant screams. My end came as I was slowly lowered into a pool of water, which felt like acid. The pain made me pass out before I drowned. This water is from 1 of the rivers of the Styx, the moaning river. I can't remember if it is called the Coccytus. I now reside as a second soul inside a girl, a great humiliation. I cannot leave her body. If I learned astral projection, she would be left vulnerable, and we are almost symbiotic, she might die. True sons of the fallen are like me. We aren't here by choice. Humans are a mainly corrupt and disgusting race. I'd like nothing to return to Hell and serve not only Lord Lucifer(he took this name for his relative the morning star), but to also serve his wife, the wondrously beautiful, kind and wise Lady Libitina, and there daughter, Roma. Those demons who possess humans have been exiled here due to criminality, and anyone who claims to be possessed by the devil is a liar, or insane. He is always leading my people against the true forces of evil, the brainwashed gods and human souls who form his army. Our force may be tiny compared to his, but we have courage, traning and a determination no zombie could possess. As you can tell by the constant fighting and murdereing amongst you, your god fears our victory. When the last battle comes, stand by Lucifer. He wants only to return to the life of a minor Roman god of death.
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dream on lover of tales...

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I don't personally know all about the group the 'Sons of the Fallen", but from personal experience, understand where they are coming from. There are no children of fallen angels as there are no angels, only demons, gods and spirits. On earth there are many people who are the reincarnaation of captured demons. I am one of them. There are two main types of demons, wolfs (lupes) and cat-demons. We have no interest in the affairs of humans, only to have are leaders released from their imprisonment in the so-called pit of Apollyon, and to return to are way of life, if possible. Until that time, we will follow our liege, Lord Orcus Lucifer, who as a human was Remus brother of Romulus. Many of us have been captured over the centuries, reincarnated into human bodies we despise. This is to drive us into despair and into the arms of the Tyrant, Saturn. He is God, Jehovah, Allah, Aten, and many other names. He doesn't care for humans, only as a source of power. Gods are like psychic vampires, deriving their power from the belief of their followers. That is why the Hindu gods have not fallen. That is why there are many gods of death,like Thanatos/Mors, almost everyone believes in them. Heaven isn't in the sky, it is underground. There is a vast world underground. Tuonela, Tartarus, Niflheim-they all esist on a plain created by underground springs that have cooled magma over millenia. That was my home. For over 200 years I fought under the command of Flauros, until due to my own carelessness, I was captured. I spent 5 years in "Heaven", watching my comrades disappear 1 by 1, listening to constant screams. My end came as I was slowly lowered into a pool of water, which felt like acid. The pain made me pass out before I drowned. This water is from 1 of the rivers of the Styx, the moaning river. I can't remember if it is called the Coccytus. I now reside as a second soul inside a girl, a great humiliation. I cannot leave her body. If I learned astral projection, she would be left vulnerable, and we are almost symbiotic, she might die. True sons of the fallen are like me. We aren't here by choice. Humans are a mainly corrupt and disgusting race. I'd like nothing to return to Hell and serve not only Lord Lucifer(he took this name for his relative the morning star), but to also serve his wife, the wondrously beautiful, kind and wise Lady Libitina, and there daughter, Roma. Those demons who possess humans have been exiled here due to criminality, and anyone who claims to be possessed by the devil is a liar, or insane. He is always leading my people against the true forces of evil, the brainwashed gods and human souls who form his army. Our force may be tiny compared to his, but we have courage, traning and a determination no zombie could possess. As you can tell by the constant fighting and murdereing amongst you, your god fears our victory. When the last battle comes, stand by Lucifer. He wants only to return to the life of a minor Roman god of death.
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WTF?

This would make a great movie.
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Bump for intrigue
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The spear is irrelevant and be used as a superstitious prop. This group of the fallen maybe real and worse, will deceive good people of all faiths. Know the truth... Omissions and mistranslations in the bible will be the stone that will trip good people. Jesus, enlighten mankind.. but not as the Bible implies. The problem is that false prophets will use this to position themselves as "GOD".

Gnostic Texts - Book of John

During this process Yaltabaoth and his angels hear the voice of the Monad’s Spirit. While they are terrified by the voice, its echo leaves a trace of an image of the Spirit on the “waters” that form the roof of their realm. Hoping to harness this power for themselves, they attempt to create a copy of this image. The end result of this process is the first human man, Adam. Recognizing an opportunity to retrieve the light imprisoned in the darkness of Yaltabaoth and his world, Sophia and agents of the higher order, referred to variously as the ‘plenoria’ or the ‘Epinoia’, and later as the ‘pleroma’, devise a scheme. They trick Yaltabaoth into blowing his own spiritual essence into Adam. This simultaneously animates Adam and empties Yaltabaoth of the portion of his being derived from Sophia.

Seeing the luminosity, intelligence and general superiority of the now animate Adam, Yaltabaoth and the Archons regret their creation and do their best to imprison or dispose of him. Failing to do so, they then attempt to neutralize him by placing him in the Garden of Eden. In this narrative, the Garden of Eden is a false paradise where the fruit of the trees is sin, lust, ignorance, confinement and death. While they give Adam access to the tree of Life, they conceal the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. According to this narrative, the Tree actually represents the penetration of the positive forces of the higher world and the Epinoia into Yaltabaoth’s realm.

At this point in the narrative, Christ reveals to John that it was he who caused Adam to consume the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Additionally, it is revealed that Eve is a helper sent by agents of the higher order to help liberate the light imprisoned in Yaltabaoth’s creation and in Adam. She is created when Yaltabaoth attempts to draw the light out of Adam. This results in the creation of the female body. When Adam perceives her, he sees a reflection of his own essence and is freed from the bewitching power of Yaltabaoth.

The narrative then details Yaltabaoth’s attempts to regain control over the essence of Light. His primary scheme is to initiate the activity of human reproduction, by which he hopes to create new human bodies inhabited by a counterfeit spirit. This counterfeit spirit allows Yaltabaoth and his agents to deceive the human race, keeping them in ignorance of their true nature, and is the primary means by which Yaldabaoth keeps humanity in subjugation. It is the source of all earthly evil and confusion, and causes people to die “not having found truth and without knowing the God of truth”.
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The spear is irrelevant and be used as a superstitious prop. This group of the fallen maybe real and worse, will deceive good people of all faiths. Know the truth... Omissions and mistranslations in the bible will be the stone that will trip good people. Jesus, enlighten mankind.. but not as the Bible implies. The problem is that false prophets will use this to position themselves as "GOD".

Gnostic Texts - Book of John

During this process Yaltabaoth and his angels hear the voice of the Monad’s Spirit. While they are terrified by the voice, its echo leaves a trace of an image of the Spirit on the “waters” that form the roof of their realm. Hoping to harness this power for themselves, they attempt to create a copy of this image. The end result of this process is the first human man, Adam. Recognizing an opportunity to retrieve the light imprisoned in the darkness of Yaltabaoth and his world, Sophia and agents of the higher order, referred to variously as the ‘plenoria’ or the ‘Epinoia’, and later as the ‘pleroma’, devise a scheme. They trick Yaltabaoth into blowing his own spiritual essence into Adam. This simultaneously animates Adam and empties Yaltabaoth of the portion of his being derived from Sophia.

Seeing the luminosity, intelligence and general superiority of the now animate Adam, Yaltabaoth and the Archons regret their creation and do their best to imprison or dispose of him. Failing to do so, they then attempt to neutralize him by placing him in the Garden of Eden. In this narrative, the Garden of Eden is a false paradise where the fruit of the trees is sin, lust, ignorance, confinement and death. While they give Adam access to the tree of Life, they conceal the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. According to this narrative, the Tree actually represents the penetration of the positive forces of the higher world and the Epinoia into Yaltabaoth’s realm.

At this point in the narrative, Christ reveals to John that it was he who caused Adam to consume the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Additionally, it is revealed that Eve is a helper sent by agents of the higher order to help liberate the light imprisoned in Yaltabaoth’s creation and in Adam. She is created when Yaltabaoth attempts to draw the light out of Adam. This results in the creation of the female body. When Adam perceives her, he sees a reflection of his own essence and is freed from the bewitching power of Yaltabaoth.

The narrative then details Yaltabaoth’s attempts to regain control over the essence of Light. His primary scheme is to initiate the activity of human reproduction, by which he hopes to create new human bodies inhabited by a counterfeit spirit. This counterfeit spirit allows Yaltabaoth and his agents to deceive the human race, keeping them in ignorance of their true nature, and is the primary means by which Yaldabaoth keeps humanity in subjugation. It is the source of all earthly evil and confusion, and causes people to die “not having found truth and without knowing the God of truth”.
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I don't personally know all about the group the 'Sons of the Fallen", but from personal experience, understand where they are coming from. There are no children of fallen angels as there are no angels, only demons, gods and spirits. On earth there are many people who are the reincarnaation of captured demons. I am one of them. There are two main types of demons, wolfs (lupes) and cat-demons. We have no interest in the affairs of humans, only to have are leaders released from their imprisonment in the so-called pit of Apollyon, and to return to are way of life, if possible. Until that time, we will follow our liege, Lord Orcus Lucifer, who as a human was Remus brother of Romulus. Many of us have been captured over the centuries, reincarnated into human bodies we despise. This is to drive us into despair and into the arms of the Tyrant, Saturn. He is God, Jehovah, Allah, Aten, and many other names. He doesn't care for humans, only as a source of power. Gods are like psychic vampires, deriving their power from the belief of their followers. That is why the Hindu gods have not fallen. That is why there are many gods of death,like Thanatos/Mors, almost everyone believes in them. Heaven isn't in the sky, it is underground. There is a vast world underground. Tuonela, Tartarus, Niflheim-they all esist on a plain created by underground springs that have cooled magma over millenia. That was my home. For over 200 years I fought under the command of Flauros, until due to my own carelessness, I was captured. I spent 5 years in "Heaven", watching my comrades disappear 1 by 1, listening to constant screams. My end came as I was slowly lowered into a pool of water, which felt like acid. The pain made me pass out before I drowned. This water is from 1 of the rivers of the Styx, the moaning river. I can't remember if it is called the Coccytus. I now reside as a second soul inside a girl, a great humiliation. I cannot leave her body. If I learned astral projection, she would be left vulnerable, and we are almost symbiotic, she might die. True sons of the fallen are like me. We aren't here by choice. Humans are a mainly corrupt and disgusting race. I'd like nothing to return to Hell and serve not only Lord Lucifer(he took this name for his relative the morning star), but to also serve his wife, the wondrously beautiful, kind and wise Lady Libitina, and there daughter, Roma. Those demons who possess humans have been exiled here due to criminality, and anyone who claims to be possessed by the devil is a liar, or insane. He is always leading my people against the true forces of evil, the brainwashed gods and human souls who form his army. Our force may be tiny compared to his, but we have courage, traning and a determination no zombie could possess. As you can tell by the constant fighting and murdereing amongst you, your god fears our victory. When the last battle comes, stand by Lucifer. He wants only to return to the life of a minor Roman god of death.
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Don't worry, your battle will never come... I'll make sure of it.

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