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Breaking Successful A4V* How to Pay Bills With Just A Blue Pen and Your Promise to Pay! ** confirmed by IRS and Treasury*** Video * Pin Request*

 
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my last 3 a4v's have gone thru with out any responce i just sent my notice of non-responce and i told em like hey thanks i didn't have any federal reserve promises to pay so i had create my own thank you so much for helping me process this payment i love you bye

i swear i have not recived a responce on this day april 6th 2012

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I just sent in my student loan last Thursday..I hope it works..I used all blue writing..
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OP..Have you checked with the companies that you owed if you have a 0 balance?
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If this works then why are all the people who have tried it in jail? putin
Why?
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please please please try and keep this bumbed up and help me spred the word my contact info is in the video's if you need help thats what im here for, im actually doing using the administrative process on the mazda dealership because they told me that wouldn't except monopoly money with an unconditional promise to pay a definte sum of money to the payee or to his order, payable on demand and endorsed for deposit to the us treasury...

im not crazy i know this is unpopular and i get a lot of personal attacks and stuff but seriously i think this is way more honorable then not extending the requested credit right?

im saying that instead of executing all the bankers whom removed all my ancestors gold im accepting unlimited credit as compensation and alternative to paying my debt with real money

thanks for you 5 stars and the feed back seriously i love you guys and i miss you rken you really helped me on this path last year when i was going to jail every other week. that dean clifford trust info really gave me a good push in the right direction im so glad im working on getting a few houses and stuff right now aswell im negotiating with escrow..

once i get my houses im not gonna be posting anymore, im done with the youtube chanel aswell i figured out what i needed to know and im very greatful for source and everyone who supported or trolled on me because i truely know this stuff is no longer a conspiracy, its truth, love, peace, freedom, and justice... hint hint.

-chritopher alyre of the fleming family

call me if your getting kicked out your house i can help
do not let them forclose on you and leave without a fight they already have been paid... they actually securitize your original promissory note and most likely sold it over sea's.
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Dude this is old it doesn't work all the people who try it end up being charged with fraud
Why?
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OP..Have you checked with the companies that you owed if you have a 0 balance?
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I FAXED THEM MY CERTIFICATE OF NON RESPONCE YESTERDAY AND MAILED IT, THEY DIDN'T SEND IT. IM GONNA CHECK MY CREDIT REPORT IN 18 MORE DAYS THEN FAULT THEM IF THEY DIDN'T SAY "HE IS AN EXCELENT CREDITOR, RESPONDS TO NOTICE AND PAYED IN ONE LUMP SUM" SAME WITH THING ON THE 2,000$ CMRE MEDICAL BILLS
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Dude this is old it doesn't work all the people who try it end up being charged with fraud
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary


LIES.
PROOF OF CLAIM PLEASE
THE IRS IS THE ONES WHO TAUGHT ME THIS IM NOT IN JAIL

I STUDIED THIS FOR 3 YEARS I NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE GOING TO JAIL FOR AN A4V NORMALLY THEY IGNORE THEM AND NEVER CREDIT THE ACCOUNT RETARD DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT OR DO YOU JUST POO POO IT BEFOR YOU LISTENED TO MY IRS CALL IM NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU
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OP..Did you go to jail because you didn't fill out your paperwork correctly?

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Congrats and Happy Easter Chris, on free foot!
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I hope we will find the equivalent in Sweden soon.
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Dude this is old it doesn't work all the people who try it end up being charged with fraud
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary


LIES.
PROOF OF CLAIM PLEASE
THE IRS IS THE ONES WHO TAUGHT ME THIS IM NOT IN JAIL

I STUDIED THIS FOR 3 YEARS I NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE GOING TO JAIL FOR AN A4V NORMALLY THEY IGNORE THEM AND NEVER CREDIT THE ACCOUNT RETARD DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT OR DO YOU JUST POO POO IT BEFOR YOU LISTENED TO MY IRS CALL IM NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU
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bsflag you'll be in jail soon enough fool do some research and find out what happened to the people who tried this.
Why?
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Dude this is old it doesn't work all the people who try it end up being charged with fraud
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary


LIES.
PROOF OF CLAIM PLEASE

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13895757


Here is my proof of claim dipshit.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

Redemption / Strawman / Bond Fraud

Proponents of this scheme claim that the U.S. government or the Treasury Department control bank accounts—often referred to as “U.S. Treasury Direct Accounts”—for all U.S. citizens that can be accessed by submitting paperwork with state and federal authorities. Individuals promoting this scam frequently cite various discredited legal theories and may refer to the scheme as “Redemption,” “Strawman,” or “Acceptance for Value.” Trainers and websites will often charge large fees for “kits” that teach individuals how to perpetrate this scheme. They will often imply that others have had great success in discharging debt and purchasing merchandise such as cars and homes. Failures to implement the scheme successfully are attributed to individuals not following instructions in a specific order or not filing paperwork at correct times.

This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate. These documents are frequently referred to as “bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.” In addition, other official documents are used outside of their intended purpose, like IRS forms 1099, 1099-OID, and 8300. This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful. Notaries may be used in an attempt to make the fraud appear legitimate. Often, victims of the scheme are instructed to address their paperwork to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury.

Tips for Avoiding Redemption/Strawman/Bond Fraud:

* Be wary of individuals or groups selling kits that they claim will inform you on to access secret bank accounts.
* Be wary of individuals or groups proclaiming that paying federal and/or state income tax is not necessary.
* Do not believe that the U.S. Treasury controls bank accounts for all citizens.
* Be skeptical of individuals advocating that speeding tickets, summons, bills, tax notifications, or similar documents can be resolved by writing “acceptance for value” on them.
* If you know of anyone advocating the use of property liens to coerce acceptance of this scheme, contact your local FBI office.

For more information:
- Sovereign Citizen Movement
Why?
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Sounds like OP is going to be heading back to prison AGAIN.

Don't pick up the soap in the prison shower.

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i'm keeping an eye on these results.
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Dude this is old it doesn't work all the people who try it end up being charged with fraud
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary


LIES.
PROOF OF CLAIM PLEASE

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13895757


Here is my proof of claim dipshit.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

Redemption / Strawman / Bond Fraud

Proponents of this scheme claim that the U.S. government or the Treasury Department control bank accounts—often referred to as “U.S. Treasury Direct Accounts”—for all U.S. citizens that can be accessed by submitting paperwork with state and federal authorities. Individuals promoting this scam frequently cite various discredited legal theories and may refer to the scheme as “Redemption,” “Strawman,” or “Acceptance for Value.” Trainers and websites will often charge large fees for “kits” that teach individuals how to perpetrate this scheme. They will often imply that others have had great success in discharging debt and purchasing merchandise such as cars and homes. Failures to implement the scheme successfully are attributed to individuals not following instructions in a specific order or not filing paperwork at correct times.

This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate. These documents are frequently referred to as “bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.” In addition, other official documents are used outside of their intended purpose, like IRS forms 1099, 1099-OID, and 8300. This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful. Notaries may be used in an attempt to make the fraud appear legitimate. Often, victims of the scheme are instructed to address their paperwork to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury.

Tips for Avoiding Redemption/Strawman/Bond Fraud:

* Be wary of individuals or groups selling kits that they claim will inform you on to access secret bank accounts.
* Be wary of individuals or groups proclaiming that paying federal and/or state income tax is not necessary.
* Do not believe that the U.S. Treasury controls bank accounts for all citizens.
* Be skeptical of individuals advocating that speeding tickets, summons, bills, tax notifications, or similar documents can be resolved by writing “acceptance for value” on them.
* If you know of anyone advocating the use of property liens to coerce acceptance of this scheme, contact your local FBI office.

For more information:
- Sovereign Citizen Movement
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary

The FBI is apart of the Government..They are both wicked..
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LoL please send me a mug shot of one of the guys arrested for accepting a presentment for value, and it's fraud I'm sure the treasurer would have called me or sent back my paperwork. It's not this is fear tactics bro... But honestly I don't care if you beleive me I have nothing to prove to you silly.... Thinks it's all bs n go troll on a allien invasion thread or something or call me and we will call my treasurer on the phone so you can hear how cool bill lockyer staff is with me now they are really cool to me and if I go to jail my sister will post a new video on my chanel and all the times I was in jail last year was for other shit like not having a last name or defying police orders, driving without a license n license plates fun stuff like that.... I told you I wasn't going to argue with you I'd just like to see 1 news report of some being arrested for this.... Have u ever read the maxims of law?

All things are presumed to be done just and right unless the contray can be proved

Truth is supreme
truth is expressed in the form of an affidavidt
an affidavidt must be rebutted point by point
an unrebutted affidavidt stands as truth


I swear these instruments are true and correct under penalty of lightning bolts from heaven
Try that, n use void where prohibited by law then sigh it without recourse that will leave them powerless in holding you liable in case there is some instance or insinuation of fraud but u didn't anwser my question did u listen toy IRS call?


Dude this is old it doesn't work all the people who try it end up being charged with fraud
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary


LIES.
PROOF OF CLAIM PLEASE

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13895757


Here is my proof of claim dipshit.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

Redemption / Strawman / Bond Fraud

Proponents of this scheme claim that the U.S. government or the Treasury Department control bank accounts—often referred to as “U.S. Treasury Direct Accounts”—for all U.S. citizens that can be accessed by submitting paperwork with state and federal authorities. Individuals promoting this scam frequently cite various discredited legal theories and may refer to the scheme as “Redemption,” “Strawman,” or “Acceptance for Value.” Trainers and websites will often charge large fees for “kits” that teach individuals how to perpetrate this scheme. They will often imply that others have had great success in discharging debt and purchasing merchandise such as cars and homes. Failures to implement the scheme successfully are attributed to individuals not following instructions in a specific order or not filing paperwork at correct times.

This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate. These documents are frequently referred to as “bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.” In addition, other official documents are used outside of their intended purpose, like IRS forms 1099, 1099-OID, and 8300. This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful. Notaries may be used in an attempt to make the fraud appear legitimate. Often, victims of the scheme are instructed to address their paperwork to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury.

Tips for Avoiding Redemption/Strawman/Bond Fraud:

* Be wary of individuals or groups selling kits that they claim will inform you on to access secret bank accounts.
* Be wary of individuals or groups proclaiming that paying federal and/or state income tax is not necessary.
* Do not believe that the U.S. Treasury controls bank accounts for all citizens.
* Be skeptical of individuals advocating that speeding tickets, summons, bills, tax notifications, or similar documents can be resolved by writing “acceptance for value” on them.
* If you know of anyone advocating the use of property liens to coerce acceptance of this scheme, contact your local FBI office.

For more information:
- Sovereign Citizen Movement
 Quoting: Bleeding Knuckles O'Leary
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LISTEN I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT I KNOW A DOMINICAN WOMAN I USED TO SCREW THAT WAS ALL INTO THIS STRAWMAN STUFF AND NOT PAYING BILLS AND CRAP.

SHE HAS 3 CARS.

1. LEXUS TRUCK

2. BMW TRUCK

3. BMW 650 LI CONVERTIBLE

SHE SAYS SHE DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY THE CAR NOTE ON ANY OF THEM BECAUSE THE COMPANIES GAVE HER THESE CARS AND THE SALES AGREEMENT IS NOT REALLY A BILL TO PAY OR SOME SHIT. THEY ARE HER'S IN THE CLEAR AND ALTHOUGH SHE OWES THOUSANDS FOR ALL OF THEM, SHE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM

SHE SAYS NOW SHE IS WORKING ON THEM RELEASING THE DEBT OF HER MORTGAGE AND HER OWNING THE HOME SCOTT FREE AND SHE WON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES
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Christopher, you need to consult with a qualified attorney, and follow his or her advice.
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Dude, I been waiting to hear from you again. I watched all your Utube vids, wasnt sure if u were in jail or not.

I want to try this also. my town keeps sending me a storm water bill , they basically charge you for rainwater that runs off your roof into the storm drains.

the have me up to like 250$ and threatening a lien. I will attempt this, but yeah, i need to learn more first.

anyways, I enjoy your vids, and Im glad ur still free
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my last 3 a4v's have gone thru with out any responce i just sent my notice of non-responce and i told em like hey thanks i didn't have any federal reserve promises to pay so i had create my own thank you so much for helping me process this payment i love you bye

i swear i have not recived a responce on this day april 6th 2012

love you guys
thanks GLP
-christopher







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Great work Christopher! Thanks for sharing! Very Inspiring!
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Please, folks -- You are indeed risking the creation of legal problems for yourself (not to mention increased penalties and interest on pastdue bills) if you pursue the course(s) of action advised in these threads.

What you do or don't do is your own business, but I suggest you make informed decisions, and consult with an attorney or CPA before putting yourself at risk.

Don't ever say no fellow GLPer took the time or made the effort to warn you outright.
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Glp pin yo nice job op yodabump
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Dude, I been waiting to hear from you again. I watched all your Utube vids, wasnt sure if u were in jail or not.I want to try this also. my town keeps sending me a storm water bill , they basically charge you for rainwater that runs off your roof into the storm drains.

the have me up to like 250$ and threatening a lien. I will attempt this, but yeah, i need to learn more first.anyways, I enjoy your vids, and Im glad ur still free
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Please make a fully informed decision by consulting a liscensed attorney or CPA before considering any course of action remotely similiar to the OP's.

And before anyone accuses me of simply advising others to blindly submit to outrageous or unjust laws, please note that I am telling them to find out exactly what they are getting into before they pursue any course of action.
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I hear ya, ill probly be a good sheep and frikn cough up the dough, im just gonna give them a hard time first, and probly end up costing myself more money in the long run.



The terrorists are in control and have more guns than i do.
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I hear ya, ill probly be a good sheep and frikn cough up the dough, im just gonna give them a hard time first, and probly end up costing myself more money in the long run.



The terrorists are in control and have more guns than i do.
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dude don't be a weinnie I'll help you out of ur water bill his call me first tell them the water belongs to god and who said they could dam it up and its your understanding and truth the resources are the peoples then say your a people not a person n your fee schedule if they want to argue over works check my Facebook about what I did to the humane society the troll is right kno ur stuff before you do this don't try it do or do not there is no try...

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Thanks ,
4 Not deleting thread yet glp it was really annoying and childish of you id say btw I love you guys
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Yeah and topp it off these maniacs poisoned the water, I would definitely set off that bill n filter as much pristine hydro possible
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Christopher, you need to consult with a qualified attorney, and follow his or her advice.
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What he also needs is a qualified psychiatrist. - But that's probably his endgame - he will claim he's crazy and was never competent to have entered into his contracts.
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Christopher, you need to consult with a qualified attorney, and follow his or her advice.
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What he also needs is a qualified psychiatrist. - But that's probably his endgame - he will claim he's crazy and was never competent to have entered into his contracts.

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yea I've how no one attacks the validity of my argument, personal attacks are much easier his call him crazy! To stupid to come up with anything better I suppose go id rather be crazy then be your ass
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The california treasurer returned to sender so I'm gonna resent it certified mail today, they are in total dishonor over there lately. Friday when I called about proof of funds the secretary actually told me she didn't understand English I'm gonna call them today to verify the balance is zeroed I know the IRS don't mess around... I'll get the upu involved if they want to play little games and three step process there ass into a federal court :)

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