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EDUCATION SYSTEM: Simple Logic to prove they want you dumb.

 
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I have a masters degree. I'm not proud of this in any way. In fact, it makes me feel stupid. But I have been through most of the education system.

It's very simple to see that there is an organized effort to make sure nobody becomes an expert at anything. They want a bunch of automaton retards that know a little bit of fluff about a bunch of different subjects.

It's simply this:

At no point in the education system are you able devote a single year to your craft. Even up into later Graduate classes, you are continuously distracted by classes like, "introductions to business", "intro to psychology", general electives, drawing class, learning another language, etc. etc.

At no point are you able to focus entirely on a skill or craft or specific body of knowledge. Constant diffusion. Constant distraction.

Think about if you had 4 years to study ONE SUBJECT every day. How quickly you would attain a level of mastery.

But then you do not have the piece of paper. The little scrap that says you bow down to the dumb world, and have agreed to be a good little slave in return for a few more trinkets than the guy digging ditches down the road.

What a joke. THEY DO NOT WANT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. It could not be any more clear.

Fake history and BS from day one.

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I will never ever put a child through the public education system.
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Good point.
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Short story long.

Commies have taken over the American educational system. Commies like morans cause morans like communism.
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Short story long.

Commies have taken over the American educational system. Commies like morans cause morans like communism.
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Unions are the biggest part of the problem. Break the unions and you will start getting better education. Teachers Unions are the worst think for education
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What a joke. THEY DO NOT WANT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. It could not be any more clear.
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People cannot be taught to 'be intelligent'; all men are not created equally in this regard.

Skills, however, can be taught.

You are correct in that more skills based instruction, including industrial, mechanical and construction processes should be included in the curriculum. That would lead to 'tracking' however, and the current belief is that self-directed development is best. Unfortunately, parents are not training their children either and that leaves the xbox and cable tv to fill in 'the gaps'.

So you get what we have, which is a fucking mess.
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I independently study ancient cultures. I have proven some professors wrong more than once. Each time they whip out their little piece of paper and tried to beat me down with it, each time I shoved the facts up their asses.
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Read John Gatto's Underground History of American Education.

He quit teaching after winning the NYC teacher of the year award.

It an amazing and scathing history of the education system in the US.

They wanted factory workers - so you are right. Smart is NOT what they're after.

Got my advanced degrees at an Ivy - just taught me how to research. Had to dig for my own info.

Love it when people say that we are 'creative' even though we are not as 'smart' as students from other countries, like those in Japan or Finland.

Well, creativity in a country is measured by patents. Check out who ranks #1 in patent submissions. It ain't Americans.
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Unions are the biggest part of the problem. Break the unions and you will start getting better education. Teachers Unions are the worst think for education
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Do away with the Department of Education.
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I agree. Education, intelligence and cleverness are not wisdom. We only learn wisdom through experience. I will admit that wisdom is not a criteria for wealth. In fact, "Wise Ones" are usually the outcasts of society. Anyone that seeks to live by what they know in their hearts to be true, must have the courage to forgo wealth and privilege.

The choice is ours.

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Good thread.
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Thread: American Students: PATHETIC
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Spot on observation, OP.





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GREAT minds talk about IDEAS
AVERAGE minds talk about EVENTS
SMALL minds talk about PEOPLE

Racism is a crime against humanity.

“A good scientist is a person in whom the childhood quality of perennial curiosity lingers on. Once he gets an answer, he has other questions.” ~Frederick Seitz

There are MORE water molecules in 1 glass of tap water than there are glasses of tap water in EVERY OCEAN ON EARTH.

Thread: THE TRUTH about the "Ancient Astronaut Theory" and Ancient Aliens TV Show AGENDA!
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probably shouldn't have gone to college bro

the time we live makes it easier than ever before in history to educate yourself. get on google, learn web design. learn html, css, jquery, php, mysql databases

learn java or objective-c and start building apps for android or ios app store

there are so many topics you can teach yourself and actually earn a good living! literally NO college required.

for fucks sake, i've met and talked to 15 y/o british kids still in primary school who have developed iphone apps. college doesnt mean shit and only the most enlightened young adults ever figure this out
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Unions are the biggest part of the problem. Break the unions and you will start getting better education. Teachers Unions are the worst think for education
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Do away with the Department of Education.
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also, this.
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Re: EDUCATION SYSTEM: Simple Logic to prove they want you dumb.
I have a masters degree. I'm not proud of this in any way. In fact, it makes me feel stupid. But I have been through most of the education system.

It's very simple to see that there is an organized effort to make sure nobody becomes an expert at anything. They want a bunch of automaton retards that know a little bit of fluff about a bunch of different subjects.

It's simply this:

At no point in the education system are you able devote a single year to your craft. Even up into later Graduate classes, you are continuously distracted by classes like, "introductions to business", "intro to psychology", general electives, drawing class, learning another language, etc. etc.

At no point are you able to focus entirely on a skill or craft or specific body of knowledge. Constant diffusion. Constant distraction.

Think about if you had 4 years to study ONE SUBJECT every day. How quickly you would attain a level of mastery.

But then you do not have the piece of paper. The little scrap that says you bow down to the dumb world, and have agreed to be a good little slave in return for a few more trinkets than the guy digging ditches down the road.

What a joke. THEY DO NOT WANT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. It could not be any more clear.

Fake history and BS from day one.

bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

I will never ever put a child through the public education system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527


You are right. I had the same sentiments exactly when I was in college. And what's worst, you can't graduate if you failed one of those stupid arbitrary subjects that have nothing to do with your chosen vocation, even if you passed the important ones with flying colors.

More reasons for them to charge people an arm and a leg.

Full of fluff and extenders. Just like a politician's speech. Long and winded but ultimately worthless.
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Re: EDUCATION SYSTEM: Simple Logic to prove they want you dumb.
I have a masters degree. I'm not proud of this in any way. In fact, it makes me feel stupid. But I have been through most of the education system.

It's very simple to see that there is an organized effort to make sure nobody becomes an expert at anything. They want a bunch of automaton retards that know a little bit of fluff about a bunch of different subjects.

It's simply this:

At no point in the education system are you able devote a single year to your craft. Even up into later Graduate classes, you are continuously distracted by classes like, "introductions to business", "intro to psychology", general electives, drawing class, learning another language, etc. etc.

At no point are you able to focus entirely on a skill or craft or specific body of knowledge. Constant diffusion. Constant distraction.

Think about if you had 4 years to study ONE SUBJECT every day. How quickly you would attain a level of mastery.

But then you do not have the piece of paper. The little scrap that says you bow down to the dumb world, and have agreed to be a good little slave in return for a few more trinkets than the guy digging ditches down the road.

What a joke. THEY DO NOT WANT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. It could not be any more clear.

Fake history and BS from day one.

bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

I will never ever put a child through the public education system.
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notice it's a worldwide thing?

years ago, if a student achieved an 'A Level' here in the UK, the guy/girl was feted, and celebrated in his/her school for such an outstanding feat.

NOW however, they give out A levels free with every bag of Maltesers students buy. That's how fucking easy they are to get.

excellent thread OP. we need to discuss the whys and more importantly the WHOs behind all this bullshit!
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Being talked.
Thread: PART 2: NWO WESTERN EDUCATION: Getting the children ready for the coming WORLD SUPERSTATE!
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How about this: ever heard of even A SINGLE class that teaches students about personal finance (interest rates, investments etc) at the high school level or lower?

Just one single class taught in even one single school anywhere in the US or Canada?
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Also I was in the Gifted program in Canada.

They take the smart students out so the bell curve for the rest of the 'advanced students' looks better.

Then all the smart kids are marked according to each other, which averages them out. Kids that were all in the top 5% are now scaled with each other so there are kids now at the lower levels of the bell curve.

Universities don't give a shit about much besides marks here so advanced students on the higher end have an advantage over gifted students on the lower end because their competition is easier to beat.

The gifted classes are limited to math and science, with maybe English and alternating years of history, geography, etc. No creative arts.

The gifted program is designed to dumb down and demotivate the smartest kids and elevate the average ones.

Even twenty years ago any idiot could get a degree. Dumber ones just had to be studious but so long as you were paying you rarely failed out.

But think about it this way - smart people don't blow their money on dumb shit just because it is hyped as a popular brand, don't rack up credit card debt at 19% or buy overpriced shoe-box condos at the height of a real estate bubble.

TPTB WANT people do be dumb.
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And I still don't feel like going to college
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University and higher education is just a primer.
You will really start to learn when you do your work. And for sure there are many scientist and workers who are totally devoted to one subject. You think people can develop cpu's or refineries with just only studying "introductions to business"?

And if it is psychology you do..... that is not really science anyways :)
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nice one dooshbag.....im glad you figured that out.
and there putting poison in everything we eat..so go figure..we r all fucked!
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Re: EDUCATION SYSTEM: Simple Logic to prove they want you dumb.
Unions are the biggest part of the problem. Break the unions and you will start getting better education. Teachers Unions are the worst think for education
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Do away with the Department of Education.
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Vote for Ron Paul. He agrees with this. It's all about making dumb people.
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Well, you either survive or perish.

Darwins Surival of the Fittest at play.

Unfortunately theres no way out of it.
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Well, you either survive or perish.

Darwins Surival of the Fittest at play.

Unfortunately theres no way out of it.
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