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TO ALL who realized 911 was an inside job and »» yet «« are in denial of the illuminati
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You name the 911 perps "elite" as opposed to the secret society of the illuminati (who are behind freemasonry, Bilderberg & Skull & Bones).
So you are in denial the basic fact.
The basic fact is that ONLY total control by one and the same secret society of media, politics and depending entities (from judges to directions of sport federations), explains the basic facts of:

- terror acts like 9/11, with media inserting a "plane" "live", shortly before hundreds of firemen are ordered to enter the chambers to be nuked "live" on TV, etc;
- "elections" with voting machines giving Romney in the winner role in Florida 800,000 votes although less than 5,000 people voted for him or giving McCain in the loser role in the US 58 million votes although less than 5 million votes (a simple poll will confirm this), despite the fact that he was "opposing" a guy (who was already an adult when he was re-) named "Hussein Obama II" - in other words where ALL "candidates" are playing a scripted role;
- mega frauds like the Megamillions and Euromillions lottery "drawings" "live" on TV, week after week for years now;
[link to lottery-for-dummies.blogspot.com]
- a "justice" that for instance has sentenced some of the greatest sports champions, from runner Ben Johnson to cyclist Alberto Contador, based on false accusations and manufactured "evidence";
[link to doping-conspiracy.blogspot.com]
- etc, etc, etc.
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The only thing I am unsure about is whether TBTB are the good guys or bad guys? Yes, they're a bunch of shitheads who have been responsible for so much atrocity through the centuries - but wasn't that necessary to wake us up?

Ultimately I suppose it dosen't matter.

I am that.
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ok i have no idea how to even begin to start explaining this it is so hard to put into words especially with the situation i am in now, to be honest, i think i am more than half way there to figuring out what has been hidden from everyone, i will try and explain as simple as possible sorry if i dont make much sense, hmmm where to begin :\
about 3-4 years ago a friend told me about the illuminati, he told me about the subliminal messages in songs, how it brainwashes people and my first thought was what a load of bullshit, then i began to look into it and seen how much fact there was behind the "illuminati" being real. it used to fascinate me all these different conspiriacys 2012 the mayans 9/11 haarp NWO mark of the beast you name it ive heard it. i have been searching for answers to questions i dont even know but finially things started making sense more, now this is the bit what is going to be hard to explain but lets give it a go......
first of all probably about exactly a year ago my life turned upside down, i used to be one of the happyiest merryiest most present person people knew then boom my life went rock bottom. i thought i had depression first, then social anxiety then i would just tell myself anything, constantly my mind was and to be honest still is racing 100 mph about this thats and anything alot of it negative.
i have been on this forum before and i know im going to get alot of haters because i am SHIT at explaining and not in the best order but let me carry on im trying my best lol....
anyway i think im missing the middle part out here about i dont even know what but anyway from this happening i have been on my own journey this past year and i have realised alot of things, even thought i cant explain it or even think about it i know what i mean lol but this is part of what i realised, i told you it wont make sense lol....
i realised what the illuminati have been hiding from us, 9/11 NWO all this other shit thats just the start of it, thats what they WANT us to know they was behind to make us fear them, like you will already know fear is their greatest weapon.
first is the law of attraction, what we want we can get, anything in life, material wishes or anything, when you think about something you attract that simple. but instead of thinking i want that nice car, you need too KNOW that you ARE going to get that nice car, if you know that in you mind and feel it in your heart once your mind and heart allign and you create enough energy you will get that what you wish for. but the "illuminati" use this to their advantage, remember whatever you pay attention too you are giving more energy too, so they use this as a weapon, notice how everything is ANTI-war not pro peace anti this anti that, even though it is against that thing you are still attracting it because you are giving it energy. so if you are thinking "i dont want to have this rubbish job" then that new job wont pop up where as if you think and know "i am getting a new job that makes me happy" then you give energy to getting that new job rather than staying with the old one. that is enough on that to get you thinking , do some research , like i said its hard to explain, but still thats just the start.........
next lets go to the ego, the false us, what everybody has grew up with, beleiving it is their true self, really its not, this is hard to explain, ill try my best.
this is what the illuminati have really done to us.
we all have a true inner self a higher self, god like self, that has a clear consciousnesses can see things for what they are, but we cant get to that state because the ego stops us. how to put it hmmm :\?
look at it this way , rhianna , justin bieber , jay z, all idols for teenagers, they all want to be that "good girl gone bad" and through the subliminal messages , through society, from being judged by others, people sub consciously build up an ego to be like that person because it is "cool" or build an ego up to fit in at school or work or group of friends or wherever people build an ego to fit in. the ego is all about "i" about "me" it doesnt consider others, the ego judges people the ego is that little annoying voice in your head that just wont shut up, when the ego is gone, all stress goes with it, when the ego is gone you find your TRUE self and because you know you and being true to yourself you will be confident happy have a high self esteem be considerate and most importantly you will feel love, you will enjoy life as it is and accept everything and everyone, it is this ego that leads these sad lives it is the ego that the illuminati have rammed into our sub conscious mind that 99% of this population live by. By living by the ego we never get to find our true self and this is what they have been hiding from us, have you ever seen the film the matrix? that is what we live in, well most of us do. think about it, if nobody had an ego then nobody would be judgmental everyone would be there for each other, depression and anxiety wouldn't be there in the first place. this world would be heaven, remember life is meant to be a gift and it would be without these ego's, remember back when you was a child and there was no little voice, everything brought joy into your life, even eating a bag of crisps was a magical experience lol, everything you did you did it like it was the first time. anyway enough of that now too believe it or dont that is your choice, and the ones that do, i wish the best on your journey.
finially time is what has been used against us, i have wrote too much for now lol but it has, we are constantly living in an illusion the past , dreading on the past wishing we did something better or worrying on the future wondering this and that, they are both illusions the only time is now, the present when you live in the past and future you miss out on what is going on right now, even 1 second ago is different than now, live NOW is the biggest tip i can give.
the past is history, the future a mystery, the now a gift, thats why its called present.i wil leave it at that for now.

so you have been told all this by an 18 year old, lets see if your ego starts to judge me now and think its all bullshit just because i am younger than you?


i know all this but trust me i am probably in the same boat as you guys, it is all so much easyier said than done, meditation is a big help to live in the now, just accept what is.

this probably could of been explained better but i tryed my best

also if anybody could think of a better title let me know i just wanted to try get peoples attention :)
peace
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interesting that you say this, i had a sort of revelation when i woke up yesterday that the "war on terror" really kicked off at the 9/11 event. and that it should be actually named the "war OF terror" because that is all they are doing, is creating more fear by creating more man made terror to feed there agendas. i also posted a sort of negative summary on my facebook that was based on all of the natural desasters for this year all ready to wake people up, and then decided very shortly after to delete it and instead posted a positive on how we are going into 5D and the conciousness shift. so did i create this page? and that post with the vid about 4 posts from the top? :P
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this is all brief it goes deeper still
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Why do people who write these walls of text almost never use punctuation, capitalization, reasonably good grammer and spell check? Why?
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why would you judge these people who are only trying to help you? why?
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You touched my heart today OP! Stay fearless, calm and balanced with love in your heart.



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OP, you are on the right path but still have much to learn. Remember that the minute you begin to think you know it all, learning ceases.

10 years ago I was right about where you are now. You have begun to wake up, but be mindful where you put your energy and time.

I gave up everything in the search for truth. I found answers, along with more questions, of course. You are at the "OK, I'm awake, what do I do now?" stage. You have begun to realize that one of the frustrating things about extricating yourself from the matrix is that few people care, fewer still are interested in waking up themselves, and some will even attack you for poking holes in their delusions.

The biggest single piece of advice I have for you is to stay away from drugs. All of them. I can explain why if you like, but trust me on this one.

If you would like to know how to literally save the planet, you should look at Biodynamic farming (Rudolf Steiner).

If you are looking for a way to REALLY wake up and become a truly free man, look into Orgonomy (Wilhelm Reich).

If you want to cure most diseases, detoxify yourself, and maintain health, read about the Gerson Diet (Max Gerson).

If you want to work out/exercise/develop physical strength and power, read "Let Every Breath..." by Vladimir Vasiliev.

If you are scientifically minded, start with "Living Energies" by Callum Coats. If you REALLY want to go deep, read "Man or Matter" by Ernst Lehrs. That one will make you feel like a complete idiot, I don't care how smart you are. It will blow your fucking mind.

The key is that you have to DO something constructive with your life and with the knowledge you acquire. Don't waste away studying conspiracies, metaphysics, and the like.

People are waking up all over the world, albeit slowly and a bit to late. This in itself does not scare TPTB. What they TRULY fear are individuals with the WILL TO ACT.
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At first I was kind of irritated at the wall of text and the lack of punctuation, but I read on because I can really relate. I am 19 and my life is just fucking crazy right now.
I have a kid on the way, I am on probation for stupid fucking marijuana charges, I cannot bring forth the will in myself to actually move forward in my life because I have just about had it with this bullshit game.
I am always thinking about how complex this world truly is and how everybody around me is so ASLEEP.
I consider the point at which I woke up to be the first time I saw the Zeitgeist movie in my freshman year. I was hanging out with the PC Admin (who used to tutor me back then), and he showed me the entire movie in one sitting, and I vividly remember walking out of his office into the main hall and just this feeling of slight shock and surrealness seeing all of these brainwashed kids walking around having no clue as to the things I was just presented with.

I do consider that a somewhat traumatic experience, and it set in motion a very complicated series of research topics for me. Despite the (severe) stress it has caused me in the years since, I would not change anything about my life. While I cannot say I am exactly "happy" with my adventures down the rabbit hole, I can say that it is extremely satisfying to both my intellect and my imagination just to be able to consider so many different conspiracy theories that may or may not be true. I never actually assert anything to be true because I do not actually know anything past the fact that I am alive, and that I don't know anything. I have enough fun just basically thinking about how complex and interconnected things are, and basically exercising divergent thinking and considering several different ideas while grasping to none in particular.

That is the thing that people can't seem to get these days.
Divergent thinking. People are stuck on this idea that you have to cling to one idea or the other and denounce all other ideas as false based on the fact that you believe your idea to be true. That in itself is illogical.

Gee, this turned into a wall of text fast.

Anyway, I am glad to hear from others my age. Ir really sucks when the only people I know IRL are constantly talking about movies (especially the Hunger Games, that really ticks me off) and video games and fucking BULLSHIT in general.
I hope we will someday meet each other in the higher dimensions.
I am you, and you are I.
Love you guys.
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The part you said you had a hard time explaining was a technique used to quit smoking.

The thouhgt process of even in the NOW of, I stopped smoking, I don't smoke, I am not smoking is as you say not effective and is flawed from the get go, all one does is think about ciggs during those mental affirmations, the affirmations should be along the lines of I love this clean air, Oh, it feels so great to take this deep breath, I am sooo healthy and love filling my lungs with this fresh air.

the affirmations there never bring up smoking once and re enforce the great feeling of clean breathing.

I too learned this and other life philosophy about your age attending 'LIFE SPRING' a self help, self actualization seminar given in the late 80's, which I've had athread here before, I've thought life spring was the most useful tool I ever recieved.

Thread: Have any of you taken the 80's self awareness seminar 'LIFESPRING'




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congratulations, it's like you popped your cherry of ignorance, welcome to the real world. you're still at the fun stage where you are realizing a lot of cool new things. there is a dead end here though and you will understand when you get there. all we can do is wait and live life to the fullest. my best advice for you...and everyone, save up water and food, lots of it. think thats dumb? what could be the harm in being prepared?
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The biggest single piece of advice I have for you is to stay away from drugs. All of them. I can explain why if you like, but trust me on this one.

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As someone who has been using drugs for quite some times, could you please explain to me in what way drugs are an immediate detriment to my being and learning?

This is not at all to say that I haven't noticed the harm they have done to me, because I know for damn sure I would be better off without them at this point but I have learned a lot from them in my time and I don't think I would be the same had I never taken, say, psychedelics, or smoked marijuana. From whatever harm they have done me, I have grown a lot personally. But yeah, I simply want your whole opinion on it because I would like to hear what you have to say.
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ok i have no idea how to even begin to start explaining this it is so hard to put into words especially with the situation i am in now, to be honest, i think i am more than half way there to figuring out what has been hidden from everyone, i will try and explain as simple as possible sorry if i dont make much sense, hmmm where to begin :\
about 3-4 years ago a friend told me about the illuminati, he told me about the subliminal messages in songs, how it brainwashes people and my first thought was what a load of bullshit, then i began to look into it and seen how much fact there was behind the "illuminati" being real. it used to fascinate me all these different conspiriacys 2012 the mayans 9/11 haarp NWO mark of the beast you name it ive heard it. i have been searching for answers to questions i dont even know but finially things started making sense more, now this is the bit what is going to be hard to explain but lets give it a go......
first of all probably about exactly a year ago my life turned upside down, i used to be one of the happyiest merryiest most present person people knew then boom my life went rock bottom. i thought i had depression first, then social anxiety then i would just tell myself anything, constantly my mind was and to be honest still is racing 100 mph about this thats and anything alot of it negative.
i have been on this forum before and i know im going to get alot of haters because i am SHIT at explaining and not in the best order but let me carry on im trying my best lol....
anyway i think im missing the middle part out here about i dont even know what but anyway from this happening i have been on my own journey this past year and i have realised alot of things, even thought i cant explain it or even think about it i know what i mean lol but this is part of what i realised, i told you it wont make sense lol....
i realised what the illuminati have been hiding from us, 9/11 NWO all this other shit thats just the start of it, thats what they WANT us to know they was behind to make us fear them, like you will already know fear is their greatest weapon.
first is the law of attraction, what we want we can get, anything in life, material wishes or anything, when you think about something you attract that simple. but instead of thinking i want that nice car, you need too KNOW that you ARE going to get that nice car, if you know that in you mind and feel it in your heart once your mind and heart allign and you create enough energy you will get that what you wish for. but the "illuminati" use this to their advantage, remember whatever you pay attention too you are giving more energy too, so they use this as a weapon, notice how everything is ANTI-war not pro peace anti this anti that, even though it is against that thing you are still attracting it because you are giving it energy. so if you are thinking "i dont want to have this rubbish job" then that new job wont pop up where as if you think and know "i am getting a new job that makes me happy" then you give energy to getting that new job rather than staying with the old one. that is enough on that to get you thinking , do some research , like i said its hard to explain, but still thats just the start.........
next lets go to the ego, the false us, what everybody has grew up with, beleiving it is their true self, really its not, this is hard to explain, ill try my best.
this is what the illuminati have really done to us.
we all have a true inner self a higher self, god like self, that has a clear consciousnesses can see things for what they are, but we cant get to that state because the ego stops us. how to put it hmmm :\?
look at it this way , rhianna , justin bieber , jay z, all idols for teenagers, they all want to be that "good girl gone bad" and through the subliminal messages , through society, from being judged by others, people sub consciously build up an ego to be like that person because it is "cool" or build an ego up to fit in at school or work or group of friends or wherever people build an ego to fit in. the ego is all about "i" about "me" it doesnt consider others, the ego judges people the ego is that little annoying voice in your head that just wont shut up, when the ego is gone, all stress goes with it, when the ego is gone you find your TRUE self and because you know you and being true to yourself you will be confident happy have a high self esteem be considerate and most importantly you will feel love, you will enjoy life as it is and accept everything and everyone, it is this ego that leads these sad lives it is the ego that the illuminati have rammed into our sub conscious mind that 99% of this population live by. By living by the ego we never get to find our true self and this is what they have been hiding from us, have you ever seen the film the matrix? that is what we live in, well most of us do. think about it, if nobody had an ego then nobody would be judgmental everyone would be there for each other, depression and anxiety wouldn't be there in the first place. this world would be heaven, remember life is meant to be a gift and it would be without these ego's, remember back when you was a child and there was no little voice, everything brought joy into your life, even eating a bag of crisps was a magical experience lol, everything you did you did it like it was the first time. anyway enough of that now too believe it or dont that is your choice, and the ones that do, i wish the best on your journey.
finially time is what has been used against us, i have wrote too much for now lol but it has, we are constantly living in an illusion the past , dreading on the past wishing we did something better or worrying on the future wondering this and that, they are both illusions the only time is now, the present when you live in the past and future you miss out on what is going on right now, even 1 second ago is different than now, live NOW is the biggest tip i can give.
the past is history, the future a mystery, the now a gift, thats why its called present.i wil leave it at that for now.

so you have been told all this by an 18 year old, lets see if your ego starts to judge me now and think its all bullshit just because i am younger than you?


i know all this but trust me i am probably in the same boat as you guys, it is all so much easyier said than done, meditation is a big help to live in the now, just accept what is.

this probably could of been explained better but i tryed my best

also if anybody could think of a better title let me know i just wanted to try get peoples attention :)
peace
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I totally understand you and you are right. I had my awakening 9 years ago, and I was absolutly stunned by the amount of evidence planted in full sight. All is out there for us too see, we only have to connect all the dots and bum!
Now you see life through another prism. The bubble burst but you have no need to be depressed. I didn't get depressed but, at the beginning I was very mad. That anger is gone and now I'm filled with LOVE and LIGHT and you have to have HOPE that this system of things will soon be OVER. TPTW lost the battle and they are desperate! They can no longer deceive us!!!!
hf
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Pray tell: who is this illuminati person forcing all this on us, forcing us to want manufactured stuff, instead of scraping at the dirt with a growling belly.
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Wall of text hits you for 525,000 text damage. You have died.

whatever
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The basic fact is that ONLY total control by one and the same secret society of media, politics and depending entities (from judges to directions of sport federations), explains the basic facts of:

- terror acts like 9/11, with media inserting a "plane" "live", shortly before hundreds of firemen are ordered to enter the chambers to be nuked "live" on TV, etc;
- "elections" with voting machines giving Romney in the winner role in Florida 800,000 votes although less than 5,000 people voted for him or giving McCain in the loser role in the US 58 million votes although less than 5 million votes (a simple poll will confirm this), despite the fact that he was "opposing" a guy (who was already an adult when he was re-) named "Hussein Obama II" - in other words where ALL "candidates" are playing a scripted role;
- mega frauds like the Megamillions and Euromillions lottery "drawings" "live" on TV, week after week for years now;
...
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Illuminati end times = the age of the Beast ruling the beasts

UNDENIABLE PROOF of the existence of incredible high quantity of Human cattle -- 5,000 illuminati and less than 50,000 shock police control 1 billion sheep currently being transported to the slaughterhouse.

All predicted by the very Last Prophet long ago:
For the record:
Mark of the Beast - Most Horrible Decision ever: 10 Basic Facts ...As a result of one of the basic facts about God (3), those who accepted the mark are reduced to a subtype of animals, those which can be fattened as cattle. ...
[link to one-mark-one-beast.blogspot.com]

Who God is: 10 KEY facts about God, known ever since Day 1The basic facts about God are known ever since day 1. In End Times there is only ONE new ... God will judge each Human for what he did with his Free Will. ...
[link to who-god-is.blogspot.com]

By the way, these two pages have been the results #1 and #2 by angelic Google, ever since they were published, for the query that beasts will never "think" of
[link to www.google.com]
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yea I figured all of that out when I was like 7 First time my friend introduced me to rap music I told him to fuck off literally (INTJ) here so I was an asshole to stupid shit and people.


When I was like in middle school I KNEW

Like I never understood why people did not notice this crap I WAS 7 freaking years old an was telling people that music brainwashes you I am 20 now and have almost no friends (by social choice) The illuminati isolates you if you oppose there agenda fucked up but ever so true.
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"The illuminati isolates you"? Wrong premise. You allowed yourself to isolation. Fight against it. There are people out there similar to you. We must unite, not isolate hf
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OP, you are on the right path but still have much to learn. Remember that the minute you begin to think you know it all, learning ceases.

10 years ago I was right about where you are now. You have begun to wake up, but be mindful where you put your energy and time.

I gave up everything in the search for truth. I found answers, along with more questions, of course. You are at the "OK, I'm awake, what do I do now?" stage. You have begun to realize that one of the frustrating things about extricating yourself from the matrix is that few people care, fewer still are interested in waking up themselves, and some will even attack you for poking holes in their delusions.

The biggest single piece of advice I have for you is to stay away from drugs. All of them. I can explain why if you like, but trust me on this one.

If you would like to know how to literally save the planet, you should look at Biodynamic farming (Rudolf Steiner).

If you are looking for a way to REALLY wake up and become a truly free man, look into Orgonomy (Wilhelm Reich).

If you want to cure most diseases, detoxify yourself, and maintain health, read about the Gerson Diet (Max Gerson).

If you want to work out/exercise/develop physical strength and power, read "Let Every Breath..." by Vladimir Vasiliev.

If you are scientifically minded, start with "Living Energies" by Callum Coats. If you REALLY want to go deep, read "Man or Matter" by Ernst Lehrs. That one will make you feel like a complete idiot, I don't care how smart you are. It will blow your fucking mind.

The key is that you have to DO something constructive with your life and with the knowledge you acquire. Don't waste away studying conspiracies, metaphysics, and the like.

People are waking up all over the world, albeit slowly and a bit to late. This in itself does not scare TPTB. What they TRULY fear are individuals with the WILL TO ACT.
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Thanks i will look into those also :).
hf
"Thou we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven that which we are, we are.
One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield"
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dude I wish I had friends like you. I'm 20 and everyone I know is caught in the damn net.

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Then find new friends
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18 eh?

i was in my late 30s at this stage, you lucky bastard!

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LOL Never too late ;-)
There are people in their sixties waking up too!
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I agree. This is also why majority of what's on the news are bad news. TV is full of dramas. All the crying, the anger, the hatred. What was abnormal, became the norm.

Degeneration is the agenda if there ever was one.

Don't subscribe to such bullshit. After all, your mind is your own. If you think someone is stealing your freewill to think, then don't give them the keys to your Porsche.

Be pro-life, pro-peace, pro-happiness.
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don't worry, everyone is a moron at 18 and yet somehow think they have magically discovered the meaning of life..

the older you get the more you'll learn how little you really know. Educating yourself is about learning all the things you DON'T know (which from the sounds of it, is practically everything).

Don't despair, if someone calls you a moran, educate yourself properly on the subject. Enrich yourself.


The only thing you can do is motivate yourself to get what you desire.. Simply dreaming as The Secret seems to imply is fools wishes.. Motivation is key.


and lastly, LIVE BY THIS:


“A man who is master of himself can end a sorrow as easily as he can invent a pleasure. I don't want to be at the mercy of my emotions. I want to use them, to enjoy them, and to dominate them.” - Oscar Wilde
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oh, so you have figured out to take iodine/potassium iodide to detox your pineal gland(gets both sides of brain firing at once) and detoxes the entire body, so the worlds psyops and media dont mind fuk you? read my -potassium iodide SSKI- thread and see the kings pyramid as a ancient 40 hertz(mind synch) frequency generator that had the metals stripped out and the kings box was once filled with alkaloid plants to chemically generate electricity with the now missing metals... as the Egyptian "religion" painted on the tomb walls are metals and chemicals disguised as gods and such...we also tell in apollos thread 'the bible unveiled etc how the rabbi magician jesus pulled off his miracles with science to the uneducated masses...if you can get pass the superstitious mumbo jumbo of rituals of so called religions and secret societies...Idol1sheep
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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bsflag

The so called illuminatti have two ways to control. The first is by feeding you a code by music and all the shit. The second is by engendering carefully the dissident reaction, your reaction.

And for this they will feed you the secret and a full round of other shit... like, icke, pjt camelot, infwrs and the list goes and goes.

If you dont believe me, i can post a full plot of religion mind control system and the first step is... traumatize them by creating a inner contradiction.

I gonna post, use google to translate if want.

"Manipulação illuminatti, como ela é feita:

Doutrina de múltiplas camadas
Mostre sem pudor características benignas; esconda
aspectos malignos e controladores.

Minta sobre quem você é.

Estabeleça grupos de frente
"Nós somos um grupo de oração."
"Nós somos um grupo de artes e artesanato."
"Venha conosco prostestar contra a guerra."

Faça promessas de realização de sonhos.
"Podemos fazer seus sonhos se tornarem realidade."

Plante culpa na vítima.
"Nós te demos aquele livro, você pelo menos poderia vir
conversar com a gente uma vez."

Crie um sentimento de urgência. Não dê tempo para a
vítima pensar.
"É muito importante que você venha conosco agora
mesmo. Amanhã talvez seja tarde demais."

Separe a vítima de outros que possam atrapalhar a
doutrinação. Cerque a vítima com propaganda e
seguidores do sistema. Dessa forma, se a dúvida surgir na
mente da vítima, a doutrina pode ser reafirmada por
seguidores felizes e um ambiente amável.
"Você é especial. Você é maravilhoso."

Bombardeie a vítima com amor.
Cerque a vítima de amor incondicional e reforço positivo.
"Nós te amamos, nós te amamos, você é bonito, nós te
amamos!"

Recolha informação sobre a vítima e mire suas fraquezas.

Use essa informação para manipula-la.
"É muito importante que confiemos uns nos outros e nos
abramos sobre coisas pessoais."

Então gradualmente retenha o amor e reforço e comece a
manipular o comportamento.
Faça exigências para a vítima.
"Vá sacar todo o dinheiro da sua conta e dê para nós."

Faça uma agenda rígida.
"Esse trabalho requer todo o seu tempo."

Mantenha a vítima ativa com o mínimo de sono possível.
"Acordamos ao amanhecer, dormimos depois da
meia-noite."

Mantenha a vítima numa dieta carente de proteínas.
"Carne é assasinato. Gostamos de vegetais."

Induza culpa.
"Essas coisas são para os não iluminados."

Controle o fluir de informações.
"Me dê esse livro. Deixe-me ver seu computador
rapidinho."

Encoraje a fofoca e a vigilância.
"Somos tão fortes quanto nosso membro mais fraco."

Confunda a vítima e induza um colapso mental.
"O ego é mal. O Eu é mal. Destrua o Eu e o ego."


Disfarce a psicose resultante de revelação espiritual.
"É normal se sentir confuso, você está expulsando a coisa
ruim."

Deixe-os paranoicos sobre os próprios pensamentos.
"Esses pensamentos não são seus. O seu real Eu está
escondido. Você não conhece a si mesmo."

Alegue divindade.
"Eu sou o mensageiro de Deus."

Invente histórias sobre você mesmo.
"Muitas pessoas têm sonhos e Deus diz para elas que eu
sou o Messias."

Induza transe e dissociação por métodos repetitivos como
cânticos.
"A Palavra é boa, a Palavra é boa."

Induza hiperventilação por exercícios de canto e
respiração.
As pessoas são mais suscetíveis nesses estados de transe.
"Não se sente mais leve, livre e vivo?"

Inicia as crianças em jogos para criar dependência e
alienação obediente na infância.
"Pegue esses blocos coloridos e construa seus
pensamentos. Pegue esses giz e desenhe seus
sentimentos."

Encoraje e separação da família e dos amigos.
"Sua família não parece entender seu novo propósito."

Desencoraje a autonomia.
"Sem o grupo você não é nada."

Tenha confissões grupais para criminalizar a "velha vida".
"Odeio minha antiga vida. Amo minha nova vida."

Isole-os do resto do mundo.
"Venha para o nosso centro. O centro é onde o verdadeiro
trabalho começa."

Faça-os sentir como parte de um grupo de elite.
"Esse trabalho irá salvar a humanidade. Deus nos disse
para te escolher pra esse trabalho."

Desenvolva uma mentalidade "nós contra eles".
"Não seja enganado pelos estranhos."

Dê a vítima inimigos.
"Sua família irá te atacar. Sua antiga religião irá te
enganar."

Faça-os sentir parte de uma missão.
"Esse trabalho é maior que a gente."

Faça-os acreditar que pensamentos críticos sobre a
doutrina são ilusões ganhando poder sobre eles.
"Seu ego e seus desejos estão te dominando."

Faça-os sentir culpados e fracos por causa desses
pensamentos.
"Não decepcione o grupo."

"Deve haver algo de errado com você. A doutrina sempre
funciona. Você não deve estar tentando o bastante."

Induza medo na vítima.
Faça-os acreditar que se saírem ficarão doentes ou
morrerão.
"Você pode ficar doente ou até morrer."

Faça-os acreditar que o corpo é dispensável.
"Seu corpo carnal é temporário e Deus pode te chamar a
qualquer momento para conhecer a Verdade."

Dessemodo eles morrerão por você.
"Beba esse líquido e Deus virá a nós."
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dude I wish I had friends like you. I'm 20 and everyone I know is caught in the damn net.

It's EVERYTHING. Literally the Truman show, everyone thinks the world revolves around them because their egos have been built up so hard.

Everything you learned in school: unimportant lies
Your HS diploma: burn it
your drivers license: break it in half
your birth certificate: burn it
money: pieces of paper, you can convince people to take COMPUTER PAPER if you just look them in the eyes, act casual and confident like nothing is happening, most people are THAT MUCH on autopilot
Religion: box after box after box
People don't even realize that literally EVERY WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH creates your reality around you.
Magazines: specifically use words like "SEX" and "HOTTEST TIPS" "WHAT YOU NEED" "ARE YOU SAD?"

It's literally the movie "They Live". I can't even operate in the real world any more, I live two lives, the real life (where I see through the matrix and feel unending bliss and peace with the unity of existence) and then my "real world" life, where I pretend to act like I'm listening to people talk about "Trey Songz" or "Kanye West". It takes so much to not just start dropping BOMBS about the symbolism and hypnosis and spiritual energy harvsting that they are participating in on such an extreme level.



It's soooooooo deep people can't even begin to wake up, and when they do, almost everyone around them is so deep the pull them back in. It's SCARY.


Even this 2012, Rapture, Aliens, Consciousness shift, it's all coming from the top down to change your thought patterns to the way they want you to think.

"The Secret" and "The Magic" (or whatever they call the damn sequel) are both BULLSHIT PROGRAMMING, it's just GRAINS OF SAND to what your true power it, you're so right. It's so easy to tell too, when you open the books at the bookstore and they just tell you to use the secret to attract "a lover" or "money" or "material wealth".


THEN there's the trap of "dissolve your ego! We need to let go of our egos!" "Free will is an illusion" "just give into love" "just let the UFOS show the way, give them control"

Um, HELL NO. I have an ego for a reason, to protect myself from THIS SHIT. Not that we need to feed our egos, or project them, or be egomaniacs, but anyone telling you to completely dissolve it is JUST as mind controlled as a britney spears addict or a Gaga fan.


It's so disturbing to have my family tell me I'm "going crazy" "need meds" "need to get a job to make money" "need to get a diploma", literally, it's EVERY OTHER DAY, while they sit back and live a soul catching, self loathing, victimized life!once you step outside and look in, you realize how powerful we ALL ARE, and that we are manipulated SO HARD ON EVERY LEVEL.


Even when you step out, there's MORE NETS to catch you.

Dori was right: just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Screw the herd, just keep swimming, and TRUST YOURSELF, NOBODY ELSE KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU, THEY DONT EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN WHO THE FUCK OR WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE. TRUST YOURSELF AND BRUSH OFF ALL THE CLINGERS AND WUSSIES AND WANNABES. KEEP SWIMMING.
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It is wonderful to see you young ones so aware and smart!
And it's encouraging that the mind control techniques are not-so-much working on your age group. I remember feeling so alienated when I was in my early twenties.

I'm 49 and Although I knew all this when I was young, life starts happening and you do , indeed, get caught in the NET.

Now the net is not necessarily a bad thing---you are speaking of the social=economic network that forms the current civilization that most of the world now lives in. Keep in mind not all live in the net. If you live inside the net and have children, you get drawn further in, because now there are mouths to feed, and shelter required. We ALL need to eat. We all need shelter.

It is the way the net is being used/has been used/will be used that is so disgusting---it is all the things and issues of control that many of you have previously mentioned in the thread=economic, religious, social, spiritual. All for CONTROL of the power we all have and refuse to use.

I truly think there is an immense spriitual struggle going on, and I do feel and believe that the positive is winning, because the positive is unstructured and immanent and pervasive, while the negative is heavily structured , concentrated and therefore vulnerable.

Even if you end up living the heart of the "net", the most important thing is to keep your mind/spirit/body complex free.
Someday we will overcome.

And I agree-just keep swimming. I have often thought of that, and sing it sometimes when I am working.

Wow I just cannot tell you all how impressed I am with the thoughts that I have read here. It gives me hope!
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ok i have no idea how to even begin to start explaining this it is so hard to put into words especially with the situation i am in now, to be honest, i think i am more than half way there to figuring out what has been hidden from everyone, i will try and explain as simple as possible sorry if i dont make much sense, hmmm where to begin :\
about 3-4 years ago a friend told me about the illuminati, he told me about the subliminal messages in songs, how it brainwashes people and my first thought was what a load of bullshit, then i began to look into it and seen how much fact there was behind the "illuminati" being real. it used to fascinate me all these different conspiriacys 2012 the mayans 9/11 haarp NWO mark of the beast you name it ive heard it. i have been searching for answers to questions i dont even know but finially things started making sense more, now this is the bit what is going to be hard to explain but lets give it a go......
first of all probably about exactly a year ago my life turned upside down, i used to be one of the happyiest merryiest most present person people knew then boom my life went rock bottom. i thought i had depression first, then social anxiety then i would just tell myself anything, constantly my mind was and to be honest still is racing 100 mph about this thats and anything alot of it negative.
i have been on this forum before and i know im going to get alot of haters because i am SHIT at explaining and not in the best order but let me carry on im trying my best lol....
anyway i think im missing the middle part out here about i dont even know what but anyway from this happening i have been on my own journey this past year and i have realised alot of things, even thought i cant explain it or even think about it i know what i mean lol but this is part of what i realised, i told you it wont make sense lol....
i realised what the illuminati have been hiding from us, 9/11 NWO all this other shit thats just the start of it, thats what they WANT us to know they was behind to make us fear them, like you will already know fear is their greatest weapon.
first is the law of attraction, what we want we can get, anything in life, material wishes or anything, when you think about something you attract that simple. but instead of thinking i want that nice car, you need too KNOW that you ARE going to get that nice car, if you know that in you mind and feel it in your heart once your mind and heart allign and you create enough energy you will get that what you wish for. but the "illuminati" use this to their advantage, remember whatever you pay attention too you are giving more energy too, so they use this as a weapon, notice how everything is ANTI-war not pro peace anti this anti that, even though it is against that thing you are still attracting it because you are giving it energy. so if you are thinking "i dont want to have this rubbish job" then that new job wont pop up where as if you think and know "i am getting a new job that makes me happy" then you give energy to getting that new job rather than staying with the old one. that is enough on that to get you thinking , do some research , like i said its hard to explain, but still thats just the start.........
next lets go to the ego, the false us, what everybody has grew up with, beleiving it is their true self, really its not, this is hard to explain, ill try my best.
this is what the illuminati have really done to us.
we all have a true inner self a higher self, god like self, that has a clear consciousnesses can see things for what they are, but we cant get to that state because the ego stops us. how to put it hmmm :\?
look at it this way , rhianna , justin bieber , jay z, all idols for teenagers, they all want to be that "good girl gone bad" and through the subliminal messages , through society, from being judged by others, people sub consciously build up an ego to be like that person because it is "cool" or build an ego up to fit in at school or work or group of friends or wherever people build an ego to fit in. the ego is all about "i" about "me" it doesnt consider others, the ego judges people the ego is that little annoying voice in your head that just wont shut up, when the ego is gone, all stress goes with it, when the ego is gone you find your TRUE self and because you know you and being true to yourself you will be confident happy have a high self esteem be considerate and most importantly you will feel love, you will enjoy life as it is and accept everything and everyone, it is this ego that leads these sad lives it is the ego that the illuminati have rammed into our sub conscious mind that 99% of this population live by. By living by the ego we never get to find our true self and this is what they have been hiding from us, have you ever seen the film the matrix? that is what we live in, well most of us do. think about it, if nobody had an ego then nobody would be judgmental everyone would be there for each other, depression and anxiety wouldn't be there in the first place. this world would be heaven, remember life is meant to be a gift and it would be without these ego's, remember back when you was a child and there was no little voice, everything brought joy into your life, even eating a bag of crisps was a magical experience lol, everything you did you did it like it was the first time. anyway enough of that now too believe it or dont that is your choice, and the ones that do, i wish the best on your journey.
finially time is what has been used against us, i have wrote too much for now lol but it has, we are constantly living in an illusion the past , dreading on the past wishing we did something better or worrying on the future wondering this and that, they are both illusions the only time is now, the present when you live in the past and future you miss out on what is going on right now, even 1 second ago is different than now, live NOW is the biggest tip i can give.
the past is history, the future a mystery, the now a gift, thats why its called present.i wil leave it at that for now.

so you have been told all this by an 18 year old, lets see if your ego starts to judge me now and think its all bullshit just because i am younger than you?


i know all this but trust me i am probably in the same boat as you guys, it is all so much easyier said than done, meditation is a big help to live in the now, just accept what is.

this probably could of been explained better but i tryed my best

also if anybody could think of a better title let me know i just wanted to try get peoples attention :)
peace
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that was nice OP. i as able to follow you very clearly.
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dude I wish I had friends like you. I'm 20 and everyone I know is caught in the damn net.

It's EVERYTHING. Literally the Truman show, everyone thinks the world revolves around them because their egos have been built up so hard.

Everything you learned in school: unimportant lies
Your HS diploma: burn it
your drivers license: break it in half
your birth certificate: burn it
money: pieces of paper, you can convince people to take COMPUTER PAPER if you just look them in the eyes, act casual and confident like nothing is happening, most people are THAT MUCH on autopilot
Religion: box after box after box
People don't even realize that literally EVERY WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH creates your reality around you.
Magazines: specifically use words like "SEX" and "HOTTEST TIPS" "WHAT YOU NEED" "ARE YOU SAD?"

It's literally the movie "They Live". I can't even operate in the real world any more, I live two lives, the real life (where I see through the matrix and feel unending bliss and peace with the unity of existence) and then my "real world" life, where I pretend to act like I'm listening to people talk about "Trey Songz" or "Kanye West". It takes so much to not just start dropping BOMBS about the symbolism and hypnosis and spiritual energy harvsting that they are participating in on such an extreme level.



It's soooooooo deep people can't even begin to wake up, and when they do, almost everyone around them is so deep the pull them back in. It's SCARY.


Even this 2012, Rapture, Aliens, Consciousness shift, it's all coming from the top down to change your thought patterns to the way they want you to think.

"The Secret" and "The Magic" (or whatever they call the damn sequel) are both BULLSHIT PROGRAMMING, it's just GRAINS OF SAND to what your true power it, you're so right. It's so easy to tell too, when you open the books at the bookstore and they just tell you to use the secret to attract "a lover" or "money" or "material wealth".


THEN there's the trap of "dissolve your ego! We need to let go of our egos!" "Free will is an illusion" "just give into love" "just let the UFOS show the way, give them control"

Um, HELL NO. I have an ego for a reason, to protect myself from THIS SHIT. Not that we need to feed our egos, or project them, or be egomaniacs, but anyone telling you to completely dissolve it is JUST as mind controlled as a britney spears addict or a Gaga fan.


It's so disturbing to have my family tell me I'm "going crazy" "need meds" "need to get a job to make money" "need to get a diploma", literally, it's EVERY OTHER DAY, while they sit back and live a soul catching, self loathing, victimized life!once you step outside and look in, you realize how powerful we ALL ARE, and that we are manipulated SO HARD ON EVERY LEVEL.


Even when you step out, there's MORE NETS to catch you.

Dori was right: just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Screw the herd, just keep swimming, and TRUST YOURSELF, NOBODY ELSE KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU, THEY DONT EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN WHO THE FUCK OR WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE. TRUST YOURSELF AND BRUSH OFF ALL THE CLINGERS AND WUSSIES AND WANNABES. KEEP SWIMMING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1706996





It is wonderful to see you young ones so aware and smart!
And it's encouraging that the mind control techniques are not-so-much working on your age group. I remember feeling so alienated when I was in my early twenties.

I'm 49 and Although I knew all this when I was young, life starts happening and you do , indeed, get caught in the NET.

Now the net is not necessarily a bad thing---you are speaking of the social=economic network that forms the current civilization that most of the world now lives in. Keep in mind not all live in the net. If you live inside the net and have children, you get drawn further in, because now there are mouths to feed, and shelter required. We ALL need to eat. We all need shelter.

It is the way the net is being used/has been used/will be used that is so disgusting---it is all the things and issues of control that many of you have previously mentioned in the thread=economic, religious, social, spiritual. All for CONTROL of the power we all have and refuse to use.

I truly think there is an immense spriitual struggle going on, and I do feel and believe that the positive is winning, because the positive is unstructured and immanent and pervasive, while the negative is heavily structured , concentrated and therefore vulnerable.

Even if you end up living the heart of the "net", the most important thing is to keep your mind/spirit/body complex free.
Someday we will overcome.

And I agree-just keep swimming. I have often thought of that, and sing it sometimes when I am working.

Wow I just cannot tell you all how impressed I am with the thoughts that I have read here. It gives me hope!
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Oh yes, and OP you expressed yourself wonderfully!





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this is all brief it goes deeper still
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Why do people who write these walls of text almost never use punctuation, capitalization, reasonably good grammer and spell check? Why?
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I had no problem reading that, it just flows for me, thank you OP, it's so refreshing and all you've said - I feel the same way...
hf
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Awesome post, OP! hf

And by the way, you're still older than me
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You might enjoy this blog

What You Resist Persists

[link to beyondthesecret.blogspot.com]

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bsflag

The so called illuminatti have two ways to control. The first is by feeding you a code by music and all the shit. The second is by engendering carefully the dissident reaction, your reaction.

And for this they will feed you the secret and a full round of other shit... like, icke, pjt camelot, infwrs and the list goes and goes.

If you dont believe me, i can post a full plot of religion mind control system and the first step is... traumatize them by creating a inner contradiction.

I gonna post, use google to translate if want.

"Manipulação illuminatti, como ela é feita:

Doutrina de múltiplas camadas
Mostre sem pudor características benignas; esconda
aspectos malignos e controladores.

Minta sobre quem você é.

Estabeleça grupos de frente
"Nós somos um grupo de oração."
"Nós somos um grupo de artes e artesanato."
"Venha conosco prostestar contra a guerra."

Faça promessas de realização de sonhos.
"Podemos fazer seus sonhos se tornarem realidade."

Plante culpa na vítima.
"Nós te demos aquele livro, você pelo menos poderia vir
conversar com a gente uma vez."

Crie um sentimento de urgência. Não dê tempo para a
vítima pensar.
"É muito importante que você venha conosco agora
mesmo. Amanhã talvez seja tarde demais."

Separe a vítima de outros que possam atrapalhar a
doutrinação. Cerque a vítima com propaganda e
seguidores do sistema. Dessa forma, se a dúvida surgir na
mente da vítima, a doutrina pode ser reafirmada por
seguidores felizes e um ambiente amável.
"Você é especial. Você é maravilhoso."

Bombardeie a vítima com amor.
Cerque a vítima de amor incondicional e reforço positivo.
"Nós te amamos, nós te amamos, você é bonito, nós te
amamos!"

Recolha informação sobre a vítima e mire suas fraquezas.

Use essa informação para manipula-la.
"É muito importante que confiemos uns nos outros e nos
abramos sobre coisas pessoais."

Então gradualmente retenha o amor e reforço e comece a
manipular o comportamento.
Faça exigências para a vítima.
"Vá sacar todo o dinheiro da sua conta e dê para nós."

Faça uma agenda rígida.
"Esse trabalho requer todo o seu tempo."

Mantenha a vítima ativa com o mínimo de sono possível.
"Acordamos ao amanhecer, dormimos depois da
meia-noite."

Mantenha a vítima numa dieta carente de proteínas.
"Carne é assasinato. Gostamos de vegetais."

Induza culpa.
"Essas coisas são para os não iluminados."

Controle o fluir de informações.
"Me dê esse livro. Deixe-me ver seu computador
rapidinho."

Encoraje a fofoca e a vigilância.
"Somos tão fortes quanto nosso membro mais fraco."

Confunda a vítima e induza um colapso mental.
"O ego é mal. O Eu é mal. Destrua o Eu e o ego."


Disfarce a psicose resultante de revelação espiritual.
"É normal se sentir confuso, você está expulsando a coisa
ruim."

Deixe-os paranoicos sobre os próprios pensamentos.
"Esses pensamentos não são seus. O seu real Eu está
escondido. Você não conhece a si mesmo."

Alegue divindade.
"Eu sou o mensageiro de Deus."

Invente histórias sobre você mesmo.
"Muitas pessoas têm sonhos e Deus diz para elas que eu
sou o Messias."

Induza transe e dissociação por métodos repetitivos como
cânticos.
"A Palavra é boa, a Palavra é boa."

Induza hiperventilação por exercícios de canto e
respiração.
As pessoas são mais suscetíveis nesses estados de transe.
"Não se sente mais leve, livre e vivo?"

Inicia as crianças em jogos para criar dependência e
alienação obediente na infância.
"Pegue esses blocos coloridos e construa seus
pensamentos. Pegue esses giz e desenhe seus
sentimentos."

Encoraje e separação da família e dos amigos.
"Sua família não parece entender seu novo propósito."

Desencoraje a autonomia.
"Sem o grupo você não é nada."

Tenha confissões grupais para criminalizar a "velha vida".
"Odeio minha antiga vida. Amo minha nova vida."

Isole-os do resto do mundo.
"Venha para o nosso centro. O centro é onde o verdadeiro
trabalho começa."

Faça-os sentir como parte de um grupo de elite.
"Esse trabalho irá salvar a humanidade. Deus nos disse
para te escolher pra esse trabalho."

Desenvolva uma mentalidade "nós contra eles".
"Não seja enganado pelos estranhos."

Dê a vítima inimigos.
"Sua família irá te atacar. Sua antiga religião irá te
enganar."

Faça-os sentir parte de uma missão.
"Esse trabalho é maior que a gente."

Faça-os acreditar que pensamentos críticos sobre a
doutrina são ilusões ganhando poder sobre eles.
"Seu ego e seus desejos estão te dominando."

Faça-os sentir culpados e fracos por causa desses
pensamentos.
"Não decepcione o grupo."

"Deve haver algo de errado com você. A doutrina sempre
funciona. Você não deve estar tentando o bastante."

Induza medo na vítima.
Faça-os acreditar que se saírem ficarão doentes ou
morrerão.
"Você pode ficar doente ou até morrer."

Faça-os acreditar que o corpo é dispensável.
"Seu corpo carnal é temporário e Deus pode te chamar a
qualquer momento para conhecer a Verdade."

Dessemodo eles morrerão por você.
"Beba esse líquido e Deus virá a nós."
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Re: after 4 years i have figured the illuminati and life itself out, 2 hours to write in brief UPDATED
ok i have no idea how to even begin to start explaining this it is so hard to put into words especially with the situation i am in now, to be honest, i think i am more than half way there to figuring out what has been hidden from everyone, i will try and explain as simple as possible sorry if i dont make much sense, hmmm where to begin :\
about 3-4 years ago a friend told me about the illuminati, he told me about the subliminal messages in songs, how it brainwashes people and my first thought was what a load of bullshit, then i began to look into it and seen how much fact there was behind the "illuminati" being real. it used to fascinate me all these different conspiriacys 2012 the mayans 9/11 haarp NWO mark of the beast you name it ive heard it. i have been searching for answers to questions i dont even know but finially things started making sense more, now this is the bit what is going to be hard to explain but lets give it a go......
first of all probably about exactly a year ago my life turned upside down, i used to be one of the happyiest merryiest most present person people knew then boom my life went rock bottom. i thought i had depression first, then social anxiety then i would just tell myself anything, constantly my mind was and to be honest still is racing 100 mph about this thats and anything alot of it negative.
i have been on this forum before and i know im going to get alot of haters because i am SHIT at explaining and not in the best order but let me carry on im trying my best lol....
anyway i think im missing the middle part out here about i dont even know what but anyway from this happening i have been on my own journey this past year and i have realised alot of things, even thought i cant explain it or even think about it i know what i mean lol but this is part of what i realised, i told you it wont make sense lol....
i realised what the illuminati have been hiding from us, 9/11 NWO all this other shit thats just the start of it, thats what they WANT us to know they was behind to make us fear them, like you will already know fear is their greatest weapon.
first is the law of attraction, what we want we can get, anything in life, material wishes or anything, when you think about something you attract that simple. but instead of thinking i want that nice car, you need too KNOW that you ARE going to get that nice car, if you know that in you mind and feel it in your heart once your mind and heart allign and you create enough energy you will get that what you wish for. but the "illuminati" use this to their advantage, remember whatever you pay attention too you are giving more energy too, so they use this as a weapon, notice how everything is ANTI-war not pro peace anti this anti that, even though it is against that thing you are still attracting it because you are giving it energy. so if you are thinking "i dont want to have this rubbish job" then that new job wont pop up where as if you think and know "i am getting a new job that makes me happy" then you give energy to getting that new job rather than staying with the old one. that is enough on that to get you thinking , do some research , like i said its hard to explain, but still thats just the start.........
next lets go to the ego, the false us, what everybody has grew up with, beleiving it is their true self, really its not, this is hard to explain, ill try my best.
this is what the illuminati have really done to us.
we all have a true inner self a higher self, god like self, that has a clear consciousnesses can see things for what they are, but we cant get to that state because the ego stops us. how to put it hmmm :\?
look at it this way , rhianna , justin bieber , jay z, all idols for teenagers, they all want to be that "good girl gone bad" and through the subliminal messages , through society, from being judged by others, people sub consciously build up an ego to be like that person because it is "cool" or build an ego up to fit in at school or work or group of friends or wherever people build an ego to fit in. the ego is all about "i" about "me" it doesnt consider others, the ego judges people the ego is that little annoying voice in your head that just wont shut up, when the ego is gone, all stress goes with it, when the ego is gone you find your TRUE self and because you know you and being true to yourself you will be confident happy have a high self esteem be considerate and most importantly you will feel love, you will enjoy life as it is and accept everything and everyone, it is this ego that leads these sad lives it is the ego that the illuminati have rammed into our sub conscious mind that 99% of this population live by. By living by the ego we never get to find our true self and this is what they have been hiding from us, have you ever seen the film the matrix? that is what we live in, well most of us do. think about it, if nobody had an ego then nobody would be judgmental everyone would be there for each other, depression and anxiety wouldn't be there in the first place. this world would be heaven, remember life is meant to be a gift and it would be without these ego's, remember back when you was a child and there was no little voice, everything brought joy into your life, even eating a bag of crisps was a magical experience lol, everything you did you did it like it was the first time. anyway enough of that now too believe it or dont that is your choice, and the ones that do, i wish the best on your journey.
finially time is what has been used against us, i have wrote too much for now lol but it has, we are constantly living in an illusion the past , dreading on the past wishing we did something better or worrying on the future wondering this and that, they are both illusions the only time is now, the present when you live in the past and future you miss out on what is going on right now, even 1 second ago is different than now, live NOW is the biggest tip i can give.
the past is history, the future a mystery, the now a gift, thats why its called present.i wil leave it at that for now.

so you have been told all this by an 18 year old, lets see if your ego starts to judge me now and think its all bullshit just because i am younger than you?


i know all this but trust me i am probably in the same boat as you guys, it is all so much easyier said than done, meditation is a big help to live in the now, just accept what is.

this probably could of been explained better but i tryed my best

also if anybody could think of a better title let me know i just wanted to try get peoples attention :)
peace
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