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once started by an outside source...it can power itself and store energy in a battery for future restarts
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well...

alloy me to gently...

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I got my 65 watts per ton figure from technical designs for the China maglev train
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once started by an outside source...it can power itself and store energy in a battery for future restarts
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sigh... you don't know nothing about machines do you???

what do you thing happens with your car???

sigh...
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The tchnology exists and is in use in China and Russia today...
Maglev trains.
I have researched and found out that it takes 65 watts per ton to LEVITATE and propel these trains at 300 MPH.....
Now...simple physics....how much force (weight times speed) is being produced...
My design is for a 'circular induction' engine...
use the same technology to 'spin' a multi-ton gigantic wheel...and then gear off the torque to spin the turbines of industrial size generators....
think a hydro-electric plant....only powered by electromagnets......it would take enough power to run a house to operate...and produce enough to power a city....once started, it can power itself WITHOUT loss of power as in the generator/alternator scenario.
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Where did you get your 65 watts per ton figure?

It is actually 1,700 per ton
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And it is at 249 MPH not 300 which would require higher amounts of power.
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Are you serious???

This is one of your open threads!!!!!

OP... STOP TROLLING WTFO !!

Flapjack Doom!!!
Flapjacks, Flapjacks EVERYWHERE,
On the ceiling, on the stairs.
Flapjacks lying on my bed,
Flapjacks piled up on my head.
With pats of butter, Eat them down,
I wish I lived in Flapjack town!
With lakes of syrup, Maple skies,
and stacks of Flapjacks 10 miles high!
I'll eat them all, oh yes I will....
and then it's off to Waffleville!

=-)
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I got my 65 watts per ton figure from technical designs for the China maglev train
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You appear to have made a calculation error.

Then again the Chinese have been known to make "mistakes" like that to win sales contracts.
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Flapjacks, Flapjacks EVERYWHERE,
On the ceiling, on the stairs.
Flapjacks lying on my bed,
Flapjacks piled up on my head.
With pats of butter, Eat them down,
I wish I lived in Flapjack town!
With lakes of syrup, Maple skies,
and stacks of Flapjacks 10 miles high!
I'll eat them all, oh yes I will....
and then it's off to Waffleville!

=-)
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... To make it clearer... bsflag
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I have a free energy device similar to your build.

I take a magnet and climb 3000 feet and drop it along an induction coil.

When the magnet falls it transfers the gravitational energy into electricity.


Oh wait the energy of me going up those stairs has to be accounted for. OOPS.
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OUR government right now is researching using the same technology to make guns with no cartridges...magnets propelling the bullets...they are also researching smaller aircraft carriers with the ability to propel the planes forward for shorter launches....Noone is thinking in a circle....and ohmygod....you have to turn it on first before it completely powers itself...better give up now....don't want to waste one burst of eceltricity for an endless supply thereafter...BS, indeed....the technology works and is out there...just needs to be assembled correctly....
the magnets don't constantly run...the rotor woud freeze in stasis, they are controlled in short bursts that spin the rotor
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Open source is the only means, as no one will invest in your idea which wont earn profit. Share the knowledge, and let others work on it and build it themselves, this is my opinion atleast. Good luck in your endeavours.
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still....ONE multi ton rotor, controlled by a circular industion engine.....could be geared off to control MULTIPLE gemerators.....No oil, No resources once started...no waste.
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I have a free energy device similar to your build.

I take a magnet and climb 3000 feet and drop it along an induction coil.

When the magnet falls it transfers the gravitational energy into electricity.


Oh wait the energy of me going up those stairs has to be accounted for. OOPS.
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lol :D

he would say that the amount of energy gained by throwing the magnet will make you climb without loosing energy
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OUR government right now is researching using the same technology to make guns with no cartridges...magnets propelling the bullets...they are also researching smaller aircraft carriers with the ability to propel the planes forward for shorter launches....Noone is thinking in a circle....and ohmygod....you have to turn it on first before it completely powers itself...better give up now....don't want to waste one burst of eceltricity for an endless supply thereafter...BS, indeed....the technology works and is out there...just needs to be assembled correctly....
the magnets don't constantly run...the rotor woud freeze in stasis, they are controlled in short bursts that spin the rotor
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Do you have a link to your source of the Chinese specs?
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still....ONE multi ton rotor, controlled by a circular industion engine.....could be geared off to control MULTIPLE gemerators.....No oil, No resources once started...no waste.
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How many HP is 65 watts OP?
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sorry for typos....new keyboard....LOL..as for my poem...I was high last night...LMAO....my engine, though, I have schematics I have been working on for years....I have yet to find one professor that doesn't agree it would work......but any time you mention 'free energy' the people that count don't want to even listen.
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not HP...but FORCE...take a multi-ton rotor and spin it at 1500 rpms.....you have the weight times the speed.....spin a 10 ton merry go round at 300 mph and see how much force it takes to stop it....it's really energy transferrance, where the output is exponential to the controlling energy
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OP I wish you good luck

I crack the problem of decomposition of water many years ago, its been a long haul, a 34 year one. The cell is special shaped and uses low voltage at about 1.46v. I moved away from using tubes or plates a long time ago, the efficiency is very high.

They is much misunderstanding on how best it can be used for example in a motor vehicle,i could go on for a long time explaining but it could or will cost you,,,,


Your life


I give way to them simply because i had to,,,,hf
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65 watts is a light bulb.....it would take about enough to power a small home, but output enough force to power turbines enough to power a city.
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So. The energy gained by the "multiton thingy" falling would have to be used to get it to go back up around the loop.


Simply accounting for the resistance in your conductors (unless it also uses superconductors near absolute 0 [which are powered magically]) you will need more energy to get the "multiton thing" back up over the hump than you would generate with it falling down with gravity.
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the idea could even be taken farther....if a magnetic 'rotor' of my design were to be powered by a smaller version of my magnetic rotor/generator.....planes could fly on self created internal power....so could subs, cars, etc....anything with a rotor assembly
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not HP...but FORCE...take a multi-ton rotor and spin it at 1500 rpms.....you have the weight times the speed.....spin a 10 ton merry go round at 300 mph and see how much force it takes to stop it....it's really energy transferrance, where the output is exponential to the controlling energy
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No

You are simply trying to plug motor into the generator using different words.

HP is a measure of force over time.

You need to create the energy in order to use it and you are not creating anything by what you have explained so far.

Flywheels as storage have been tried throughout history and work sometimes depending on needs but they do not create energy they simply store it.
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no....the rotor does not turn vertically but horizontally....even spin without counterforces from gravity
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you take a household's worth of electricity to 'create' enough force to power generators which output thousands of times more power....it is not the same idea because the power consumption is NOT a drain....it self-sustains....the rotor doesn't create the eletricity....think of it as the largest gear in a transmission......
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not HP...but FORCE...take a multi-ton rotor and spin it at 1500 rpms.....you have the weight times the speed.....spin a 10 ton merry go round at 300 mph and see how much force it takes to stop it....it's really energy transferrance, where the output is exponential to the controlling energy
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No

You are simply trying to plug motor into the generator using different words.

HP is a measure of force over time.

You need to create the energy in order to use it and you are not creating anything by what you have explained so far.

Flywheels as storage have been tried throughout history and work sometimes depending on needs but they do not create energy they simply store it.
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You can spin your 10 ton merrigoround 30,000 RPM and as soon as you take power from it will stop.

You appear to be assuming that there are permanent magnet motors that already work self sustaining and there are none to date.
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So make a scale model without the "multi tons"


If it'd work, it'd work scaled down too.


Want some spare copper wire? I've got a couple pounds in the shed.
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you take a household's worth of electricity to 'create' enough force to power generators which output thousands of times more power....it is not the same idea because the power consumption is NOT a drain....it self-sustains....the rotor doesn't create the eletricity....think of it as the largest gear in a transmission......
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So I can take the engine out of my car once a large enough gear is installed in my transmission?

How might that work?
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once started by an outside source...it can power itself and store energy in a battery for future restarts
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lolsign

Honestly OP, I think your life is safe.

The killer squads from the oil companies have figured out that you're an idiot...
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when you hook up a generator and try to power it with an alternator....the power loss is so great it dies.....
when you use the power output of my rotor to power itself, the power output is soooo much greater it becomes a self-sustaining system.
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you take a household's worth of electricity to 'create' enough force to power generators which output thousands of times more power....it is not the same idea because the power consumption is NOT a drain....it self-sustains....the rotor doesn't create the eletricity....think of it as the largest gear in a transmission......
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How is the "loading" of the rotor not draining force?

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