Iran won't negotiate on key issues. Last chance for peace evaporates.

When we attacked Iraq they offered to sit down and negotiate with us and were open to inspections but Bush turned them down. A great opportunity wasted

To avoid an Israeli strike:
1) Iran must disassemble their Fordo nuclear plant.
2) Stop uranium enrichment capable of being upgraded to weapons' grade fuel.

With a super-summit scheduled later this week in Turkey, these two conditions are the consessions REQUIRED by the U.S. and Israel to avoid war. Today, Iran, ahead of the summit, said "Nyet" to both conditions.

The region needs a serious peace broker, a miracle worker who can somehow someway give all sides a diplomatic excuse out of this slippery slope to war. Who? Hillary Clinton?

The day war breaks out I'm going to buy some ammunition with cash and ring up my credit card

=)

And this is surprising, how?


Jewish and Persian cultures are highly patriarchal. A woman's word means nothing. Especially an American one.


Let Israel and Iran blow each other to smithereens. But keep American troops out of it. In fact, bring all American troops home from the Middle East, and let Russia and China play peacekeeper/housekeeper from then on.

Stryker here,

Proctor was taken out yesterday....

One of the intel boys says this war is gonna happen. He's also concerned about North Korea making a move on the south once were fully engaged with Iran. If that happens, we're in a world of shit.....

blue wire coms from now on.....


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Two weeks from now, the dark of the moon, talks have failed
and our Navy is safely out of range of Iran's missiles.
Having backed off as a "polite gesture prior to talks".

Not saying anything will happen, but it wouldn't surprise
me.

To avoid an Israeli strike:
1) Iran must disassemble their Fordo nuclear plant.
2) Stop uranium enrichment capable of being upgraded to weapons' grade fuel.

Israel almost was demolished in the arab-israeli wars if Imperial Iran (shah)did not support with money and militarily (sold US bought fighter and weapons with Iranian money) and send them to Israel and also other western support there would have been no Israel today and Palestine was free.

Israel depends on its western allies in war and it can not do it alone.

Now this time is different. Iran and Persian (being world best strategists)is a very different situation and more then Israel can handle.

by the way I am happy the evil Shah was throne out and imperial Iran was overthrown. Shah was a zionist stooge.

Israel almost was demolished in the arab-israeli wars if Imperial Iran (shah)did not support with money and militarily (sold US bought fighter and weapons with Iranian money) and send them to Israel and also other western support there would have been no Israel today and Palestine was free.

Israel depends on its western allies in war and it can not do it alone.

Now this time is different. Iran and Persian (being world best strategists)is a very different situation and more then Israel can handle.

by the way I am happy the evil Shah was throne out and imperial Iran was overthrown. Shah was a zionist stooge.

Question: If Israel has 400 nukes and uses say at least 350 of them on Iran, who thinks there would be much left to fight back?

Seriously - 350 nukes.. level most population centers leaving none left to fight back.

Thoughts on this??

5 would do the job, once the government centres are gone and a few of the large military installations the nation will cease to be an effective fighting force. 350 is just a waste of nukes, strike off 5 large cities and the jobs done.

[link to www.debka.com]

The U.S. tried to mitigate this.

To avoid an Israeli strike:
1) Iran must disassemble their Fordo nuclear plant.
2) Stop uranium enrichment capable of being upgraded to weapons' grade fuel.

With a super-summit scheduled later this week in Turkey, these two conditions are the consessions REQUIRED by the U.S. and Israel to avoid war. Today, Iran, ahead of the summit, said "Nyet" to both conditions.

Someone has to cave in and lose face this week.

Even if Obama caves in, Israel likely won't. They will go it alone, believing Iran's nuclear strategy poses an existential threat. A show of weakness from Israel will only increase their sense of peril. Netanyahu is Samson-like in his resolve.

Neither can Iran's regime afford to show weakness, especially to their own citizens, who favor an uprising. Besides, it sounds like Iran's religious leader believes the upcoming war will reveal their anointed Madhi, the 12th Imam.

The region needs a serious peace broker, a miracle worker who can somehow someway give all sides a diplomatic excuse out of this slippery slope to war. Who? Hillary Clinton?

Passover ends this week. The summit is scheduled for the end of this week. Russia, China and the U.S. are playing chess games with their ships and subs.

It's all coming down to the wire, and the situation looks desperately perilous. Some will say, Game on. Some will say, Doom on. What sayest thou?

[link to www.debka.com]

The U.S. tried to mitigate this.

To avoid an Israeli strike:
1) Iran must disassemble their Fordo nuclear plant.
2) Stop uranium enrichment capable of being upgraded to weapons' grade fuel.

With a super-summit scheduled later this week in Turkey, these two conditions are the consessions REQUIRED by the U.S. and Israel to avoid war. Today, Iran, ahead of the summit, said "Nyet" to both conditions.

Someone has to cave in and lose face this week.

Even if Obama caves in, Israel likely won't. They will go it alone, believing Iran's nuclear strategy poses an existential threat. A show of weakness from Israel will only increase their sense of peril. Netanyahu is Samson-like in his resolve.

Neither can Iran's regime afford to show weakness, especially to their own citizens, who favor an uprising. Besides, it sounds like Iran's religious leader believes the upcoming war will reveal their anointed Madhi, the 12th Imam.

The region needs a serious peace broker, a miracle worker who can somehow someway give all sides a diplomatic excuse out of this slippery slope to war. Who? Hillary Clinton?

Passover ends this week. The summit is scheduled for the end of this week. Russia, China and the U.S. are playing chess games with their ships and subs.

It's all coming down to the wire, and the situation looks desperately perilous. Some will say, Game on. Some will say, Doom on. What sayest thou?

Iran is not developing nuclear weapons. these are no longer allowed and the leader of Iran, its President Amadinajad is very well aware of that. If the us and Israel attack, it will be a dark day for usa and israel. Iran is well protected.

You don't get it yet. Israel will not allow itself to be taken. They will fight to the last man, and they will without any doubt use nukes if needs be. They do not think or fight like the US or UK, they fight with brutal efficency. As would you if you thought that screaming musilms were going to over run your country and behead 3/4 of the population.
They are serious, they don't talk shit, they don't hold their punches. God help those that seek a conflict with her.

"The biggest problem for the United States is not Iran getting a nuclear weapon and testing it, it's Iran getting a nuclear weapon and not using it. Because the second that they have one and they don't do anything bad, all of the naysayers are going to come back and say, 'See, we told you Iran is a responsible power. We told you Iran wasn't getting nuclear weapons in order to use them immediately.' ... And they will eventually define Iran with nuclear weapons as not a problem."

they make you look like rabid dogs

Everyone is entitled to make at least one major mistake , Israel and the US can make theirs whenever they like .