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ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!

 
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ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
[link to educate-yourself.org]

THE HEALTHCARE BILL HB 3200
[link to thomas.loc.gov]


Judge David Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200. Please read this, especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

[link to conservativeemailcrap.wordpress.com]


Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

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Soylent Green needs a source.
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Fucking morons, it is rationed already -- by the insurance companies.. this would give MORE OUT. Fucking asshole shut the fuck up
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS.

Section 1833(t) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395l(t)) is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(18) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT FOR CANCER HOSPITALS-

`(A) STUDY- The Secretary shall conduct a study to determine if, under the system under this subsection, costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) with respect to ambulatory payment classification groups exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection (as determined appropriate by the Secretary).

`(B) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT- Insofar as the Secretary determines under subparagraph (A) that costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection, the Secretary shall provide for an appropriate adjustment under paragraph (2)(E) to reflect those higher costs effective for services furnished on or after January 1, 2011.'.



bsflag Op is a fucking liar
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From what I can tell, the letter seems to be a fake?
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Shut the fuck up, cocksucker.
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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The euthanasia office is just passed the billing deparment, get it? If you can't pay for services you can donate blood or a kidney (by force).
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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Having just watched two family members suffer and die from illnesses where they KNEW death was the only way out, I would have to say that euthanasia is long overdue. We are a barbaric race who will ease the suffering of our animlas and let our family members writhe in agony.
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Not sure if the article is true but from an economic point of view that is not a bad idea. A very large portion of the healthcare costs goes to trying to extend the life of old people.

At some point you have to ask yourself how much it's worth to extend peoples lives for only a few years. On top of that, if you do give them treatment you are making their last years a living hell, or at least in the majority of the cases.

Policies like these would drive the healthcare costs down which in turn drive your insurance costs down.
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co-inky dink???

[link to www.soliant.com]

I could never go to this place
truth in naming/advertising?
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Re: ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
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Re: ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
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Hey dickwax read the LAW specifically the supreme court decision from the 50's in regards to SSI. It is a tax not an contractual entitlement , then take it up with them.
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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They called it palliative care now. They did it to my sister-in-law ,who had cancer. They just keep uping the pain meds until they stop breathing.
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Not sure if the article is true but from an economic point of view that is not a bad idea. A very large portion of the healthcare costs goes to trying to extend the life of old people.

At some point you have to ask yourself how much it's worth to extend peoples lives for only a few years. On top of that, if you do give them treatment you are making their last years a living hell, or at least in the majority of the cases.

Policies like these would drive the healthcare costs down which in turn drive your insurance costs down.
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How effective is the treatment for older people anyhow ? This will put a real crimp in the oncologists pocketbook though.
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The SCOTUS will strike it down so who cares....
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The implantable type 2 medical device (microchip) has been proven to cause tumors and/or cancer in pets and people. This is something included in the Health Care Bill.

This is the perfect design. You can't be responsible for treating the cancer they got from what you implanted in them if you want to make a tidy profit.
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Fucking morons, it is rationed already -- by the insurance companies.. this would give MORE OUT. Fucking asshole shut the fuck up
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Right now (and it's been for a long time) above age 65, their is no insurance companies. It's called Medicare (federal government).

This is an article of how EXISTING government care for the elderly would change under Obamacare.

Please wipe the Obammy flavored jizz from your mouth and learn to read and think on your own.
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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They called it palliative care now. They did it to my sister-in-law ,who had cancer. They just keep uping the pain meds until they stop breathing.
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That's what the stars and drug addicts have been doing for years on their own. I wonder what a doctor charges to kill them.
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Not sure if the article is true but from an economic point of view that is not a bad idea. A very large portion of the healthcare costs goes to trying to extend the life of old people.

At some point you have to ask yourself how much it's worth to extend peoples lives for only a few years. On top of that, if you do give them treatment you are making their last years a living hell, or at least in the majority of the cases.

Policies like these would drive the healthcare costs down which in turn drive your insurance costs down.
 Quoting: Psych


Or how about they regulate how much hospitals bill insurance companies for things like $50 bandaides, and $100 tubes of toothpaste. That might bring insurance costs down too.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Fucking morons, it is rationed already -- by the insurance companies.. this would give MORE OUT. Fucking asshole shut the fuck up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14045101


why is it every attempt to tarnish Obama here is fundamentaly flawed, and in reality,

points to one of his positive acheivements.

either theres a lot of really smart supporters, or really dense opposition.
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So evil buttheads like Kissinger get to be patched up forever, but the rest of our parents and grandparents get to die.
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
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I have paid into it for 40 years and my husband paid into it for about the same amount until he passed in 2008. I to want to know where my money is. It was set up that you paired into it and would get the money back in your later years. Now they tell the young people that they are paying for it. Another case of dividing people.
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
 Quoting: seasidedaisy


I have paid into it for 40 years and my husband paid into it for about the same amount until he passed in 2008. I to want to know where my money is. It was set up that you paired into it and would get the money back in your later years. Now they tell the young people that they are paying for it. Another case of dividing people.
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Not sure if the article is true but from an economic point of view that is not a bad idea. A very large portion of the healthcare costs goes to trying to extend the life of old people.

At some point you have to ask yourself how much it's worth to extend peoples lives for only a few years. On top of that, if you do give them treatment you are making their last years a living hell, or at least in the majority of the cases.

Policies like these would drive the healthcare costs down which in turn drive your insurance costs down.
 Quoting: Psych


Or how about they regulate how much hospitals bill insurance companies for things like $50 bandaides, and $100 tubes of toothpaste. That might bring insurance costs down too.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


Or lets stop the medical lottery where you can sue a Dr. for millions over nothing.
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Re: ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
Not sure if the article is true but from an economic point of view that is not a bad idea. A very large portion of the healthcare costs goes to trying to extend the life of old people.

At some point you have to ask yourself how much it's worth to extend peoples lives for only a few years. On top of that, if you do give them treatment you are making their last years a living hell, or at least in the majority of the cases.

Policies like these would drive the healthcare costs down which in turn drive your insurance costs down.
 Quoting: Psych


How effective is the treatment for older people anyhow ? This will put a real crimp in the oncologists pocketbook though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466124


Not very effective. Something I have seen happening very often (including my grandmother), is that when old people are getting deceases it tends to accumulate. They treat cancer, and something else pops up, going back and forth, and spending crazy amounts of money on it.

And yeah, it might crimp their pocketbooks. You are saying it like that's a bad thing. tounge

Or how about they regulate how much hospitals bill insurance companies for things like $50 bandaides, and $100 tubes of toothpaste. That might bring insurance costs down too.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


I agree with that too.

There are a lot of areas within the healthcare system which could drive prices down.

To me it's a matter of and/and as appose to or/or.
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Well arent you a good little communist,

sucking Obamas ass,

wanting people to give all their assets to the state,


each day america gets a bit dumber




GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Fucking morons, it is rationed already -- by the insurance companies.. this would give MORE OUT. Fucking asshole shut the fuck up
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Fucking libtard liar, it is not rationed by insurance companies, lying Obama-loving cocksucker.
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Or lets stop the medical lottery where you can sue a Dr. for millions over nothing.
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^The actual problem^
Every problem America has always comes back to lawyers and money. Always.
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Or lets stop the medical lottery where you can sue a Dr. for millions over nothing.
 Quoting: FubarMan


I think that is something which you see across the board.

If you can sue McDonald's because your coffee is too hot, there is something wrong with the system.

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