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ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!

 
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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Morphine.
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Everyone was warned about the death panels.

Did they listen? No...

Step rite up sheep, get in line for Obaaaaaahhamaaa care.

sheep sheep sheep sheep ogrrr
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Or lets stop the medical lottery where you can sue a Dr. for millions over nothing.
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I think that is something which you see across the board.

If you can sue McDonald's because your coffee is too hot, there is something wrong with the system.
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McD's was sued because the CUP's adhesive came undone from the coffee's heat and 190' coffee went all over someone's lap causing such major burns and scarring that she never recovered enough to even work in her garden and died a few years later.

You made it sound like she was Princess Diana whining that her coffee was too hot in her china tea cup. Bad example.
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They better legalize euthanasia if this is true. Or heroin for the poor old bastards.
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Morphine.
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Yep...a friend of mine works in a pharmacy and he told me he knew when my grandmother was near the end because of the dosage of morphine they prescribed...She did chemo/radiation and it seems like she just went downhill immediately...she was not even sickly when it was diagnosed and was dead within 3 months of being diagnosed and doing the chemo/morphine...she had breast cancer..they did not get it all the first time...I know cancer does not show signs until advanced, but I would NEVER do chemo..I believe it kills you faster.
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so now if you're over 76 years old, you no longer have the right to life and liberty (happiness too i suppose)??
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
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Fuck yeah. And we need a raise.
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that is a good thing, statistically, cancer victims live longer UNTREATED. Ironically, Obama may be saving lives, shhhhh, don't tell 'them'
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Not really surprised by the young marxist Obama cult members saying it is okay to kill off old people.

You people in the Obama cult are some heartless fuckers.

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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
 Quoting: seasidedaisy


GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
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Your money was spent years ago. Any money you get from SS will be somebody elses. SS is a ponzi scheme. You got duped and the younger generation doesn't owe you jack shit. If you have a problem with this take it up with the folks you voted for during the 40 years you paid into SS.
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Or lets stop the medical lottery where you can sue a Dr. for millions over nothing.
 Quoting: FubarMan


I think that is something which you see across the board.

If you can sue McDonald's because your coffee is too hot, there is something wrong with the system.
 Quoting: Psych


McD's was sued because the CUP's adhesive came undone from the coffee's heat and 190' coffee went all over someone's lap causing such major burns and scarring that she never recovered enough to even work in her garden and died a few years later.

You made it sound like she was Princess Diana whining that her coffee was too hot in her china tea cup. Bad example.
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Fair enough.

The story was indeed a bit more nuanced. However, you now make it sound like she died a couple of years later due to this incident.

chuckle

She died 12 years after the incident, at an age of 91 years old.

Btw: She held the cup between her knees when it spilled.

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Re: ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
Nothing new here. It's all according to plan and going quite well.

Just another method to cull the herd. Chemotherapy will kill you if the cancer doesn't.

I'm ashamed to be part of a society that cannot see that treating the symptom does not cure the disease. In fact, it aggravates it in most cases.


Just prolong the agony, it's the same in all facets of our society. Keep inflating the bubble, and it will roll down the road just a little longer. Economics, religion, education, medicine, politics, it's all the same. Don't try and fix the problems, just push the same apple cart down the road. Makes me sick.
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so now if you're over 76 years old, you no longer have the right to life and liberty (happiness too i suppose)??
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strawman much?

not going Logan's Run here, but ...

if there is a finite pool of health resources for extreme care (such as cancer), then that pool should concentrate on those that have a chance at a full life ahead of them

those that are at or passed the median life expectancy?

they have lived that life

most of those patients would tell you the same

the research should continue, and any and all voluntary patients should be able to be part of any study, but the standard of care should concentrate on the younger

jmo
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so now if you're over 76 years old, you no longer have the right to life and liberty (happiness too i suppose)??
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According to Obama (and the mindless liberal denizens who support this mess), no they don't.

After 76, you are deemed no longer an asset to The State, and not worthy of the financial effort to save your life. That money would be better spent (according to them) on Welfare, Food Stamps, Additional Black-Only programs, daycare for Teneisha's 12 children (while she watches her soap-operas and looks for 'daddy' #13), etc.

Exceptions to this rule are:

1. Democrat/Socialist/Communist Politicians and their families
2. Hollywood members and their families
3. MSM members and their families
4. Any minority family that has the MSM spotlight on it

People like my grandfather, who at 78 had cancer, received treatment, and lived until 91, are hereby deemed 'unworthy'.

I mean after all, my grandfather only worked until he was 66 years old (52 years of paying taxes, social security, medicare, etc.), so why should he receive any of it back when he needs it (/sarcasm).

It should rightfully go to the minorities/illegals who have barely contributed anything (comparatively speaking), because "Iz Day Rite". (/sarcasm)

Last Edited by Nemamiah on 04/09/2012 10:42 AM
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Wow. The depth of your stupidity is almost hard to believe. Sadly I see many that are as stupid as you are as to how this has all come about. Your average US boomer is no more at fault for the state of the US economy than you are for your shallow view of life and inability to use that gray substance between your ears.
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so now if you're over 76 years old, you no longer have the right to life and liberty (happiness too i suppose)??
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strawman much?

not going Logan's Run here, but ...

if there is a finite pool of health resources for extreme care (such as cancer), then that pool should concentrate on those that have a chance at a full life ahead of them

those that are at or passed the median life expectancy?

they have lived that life

most of those patients would tell you the same

the research should continue, and any and all voluntary patients should be able to be part of any study, but the standard of care should concentrate on the younger

jmo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364026


The 'pool' is 'finite' because a LOT of idiots haven't contributed SHIT to it, the money is diverted to other 'worthy' programs, and the 'entitled' crowds grows by leaps and bounds every year as more and more illegals are now getting benefits.

What is the fucking sense of contributing almost 8% of your salary (+ another 8% from your employer) for 40+ years of working, SO YOU CAN GET MEDICAL TREATMENT AFTER AGE 65, and then now you have IDIOTS who say NO YOU DON'T DESERVE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE PAST 'MEDIAN' AGE.

THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OWED 40+ YEARS OF 16% OF THEIR SALARY + INTEREST SO THEY CAN PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES.

THEY SHOULD GET OUT, WHAT THEY PUT IN. SAME FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION.

Last Edited by Nemamiah on 04/09/2012 10:48 AM
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[link to educate-yourself.org]

THE HEALTHCARE BILL HB 3200
[link to thomas.loc.gov]


Judge David Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200. Please read this, especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

[link to conservativeemailcrap.wordpress.com]


Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

:dyingfreedom:
 Quoting: DigitalGoodtime


Section 1145...

SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS.

Section 1833(t) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395l(t)) is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(18) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT FOR CANCER HOSPITALS-

`(A) STUDY- The Secretary shall conduct a study to determine if, under the system under this subsection, costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) with respect to ambulatory payment classification groups exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection (as determined appropriate by the Secretary).

`(B) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT- Insofar as the Secretary determines under subparagraph (A) that costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection, the Secretary shall provide for an appropriate adjustment under paragraph (2)(E) to reflect those higher costs effective for services furnished on or after January 1, 2011.'.


[link to thomas.loc.gov]

No mention of 76 or rationing of service to specific age groups.... Or in other words you read some retarded information on the interwebz without checking if it is factual and then spam it on this website.
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I probably won't make it to 76 anyway... LOL
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so now if you're over 76 years old, you no longer have the right to life and liberty (happiness too i suppose)??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7910973


According to Obama (and the mindless liberal denizens who support this mess), no they don't.

After 76, you are deemed no longer an asset to The State, and not worthy of the financial effort to save your life. That money would be better spent (according to them) on Welfare, Food Stamps, Additional Black-Only programs, daycare for Teneisha's 12 children (while she watches her soap-operas and looks for 'daddy' #13), etc.

Exceptions to this rule are:

1. Democrat/Socialist/Communist Politicians and their families
2. Hollywood members and their families
3. MSM members and their families
4. Any minority family that has the MSM spotlight on it

People like my grandfather, who at 78 had cancer, received treatment, and lived until 91, are hereby deemed 'unworthy'.

I mean after all, my grandfather only worked until he was 66 years old (52 years of paying taxes, social security, medicare, etc.), so why should he receive any of it back when he needs it (/sarcasm).

It should rightfully go to the minorities/illegals who have barely contributed anything (comparatively speaking), because "Iz Day Rite". (/sarcasm)
 Quoting: Nemamiah


Idiot.

Obama isn't saying it, nor is every liberal...

Nor is it even stated in the bill. What about doing fact checking before spouting nonsense? Ohwell I guess that is what neo-conservatives do best... Don't you need to invade another country soon? That seems money a lot better spend then on healthcare right?
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Re: ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
Take baking soda to keep the body alkaline. Cancer can only grow in an acid environment.

1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in water morning and evening is usually what is recommended. Urine test strips can be bought online or in some pharmacies to see if your urine/body is alkaline.

Google more info and even this site has good info as well.
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I'm 70. I pay $1200.00 a year for medicare part B. I never see a doctor or go to hospital so I just pay in. When I'm older and dying all I ask is pain relief to get me out in peace.
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384


Wow. The depth of your stupidity is almost hard to believe. Sadly I see many that are as stupid as you are as to how this has all come about. Your average US boomer is no more at fault for the state of the US economy than you are for your shallow view of life and inability to use that gray substance between your ears.
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They (today's utes) will be the first to die out when SHTF because they lack the ability to do anything for themselves...the "entitlement" mentality has left them ill-prepared for anything but consumption.
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Not sure if the article is true but from an economic point of view that is not a bad idea. A very large portion of the healthcare costs goes to trying to extend the life of old people.

At some point you have to ask yourself how much it's worth to extend peoples lives for only a few years. On top of that, if you do give them treatment you are making their last years a living hell, or at least in the majority of the cases.

Policies like these would drive the healthcare costs down which in turn drive your insurance costs down.
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This kind of thinking is the problem. If it is ok to say your to old to recieve this threatment for that.. It will snowball 76 to old for cancer treatment, 60 to old for heartsurgry, 50 to old for who knows what...

And what about skin cancer where they could have surgery and have it removed and do some chemo to be sure it is all gone. They could go on with a good life afterwards. Or if it is found early where highly treatable and curable?

There is value in life at any age, And should be their and their doctors choice as to what to do. End of story. Besides I really dont know any 76 year old who would undergo cancer treatment at that age with the exception for pain management.(unless it was something caught early) My FIL had a few treatments for pain management. But if they choose to it is their choice to make not the goverments.
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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You are a moron of the highest degree.

Do you not really know who is responsible for this nations debt? Idiot.
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Hey I paid into ssi for 40 years, I want my money back.
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Hey dickwax read the LAW specifically the supreme court decision from the 50's in regards to SSI. It is a tax not an contractual entitlement , then take it up with them.
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What is dickwax?

Confuse me
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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The generation after YOU will say the same shit, just as we did about our parents. Nothing new, kid.
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[link to educate-yourself.org]

THE HEALTHCARE BILL HB 3200
[link to thomas.loc.gov]


Judge David Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200. Please read this, especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

[link to conservativeemailcrap.wordpress.com]


Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

:dyingfreedom:
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Sarah says.........TOLD YA SO.
Enjoy your "Death Panels".

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Or lets stop the medical lottery where you can sue a Dr. for millions over nothing.
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^The actual problem^
Every problem America has always comes back to lawyers and money. Always.
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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Fucking morons, it is rationed already -- by the insurance companies.. this would give MORE OUT. Fucking asshole shut the fuck up
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Obama is useless as titts on a boar hog! Get that ass clown out of the White house! And deport every single person who supports this ass clown!
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GOOD. Fuck the baby boomers. That generation has screwed us greatly. They don't deserve social security either and their estates should be taxed at 99% when they die.

If they believe they can just rack up a $15+ Trillion debt and pass it on to us younger people, they are sadly mistaken. I don't think Im alone when I say I am not accepting any debts these old fuckers have accumulated.
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Learn to read so you can see that dumb ass clown Obama spent $7 trillion and not one penny of that was to improve the situation in the USA. Wake up dumb ass! Healthcare is a flea on a flea in the big picture. Obama care is a cover, a laundry operations. LMFAO! With people this gullible it is no wonder the government is able to fleece the sheep lol! Oh wait on second thought all is fine, think I'll go join them and fleece you sheep some more! Oh yeah daddy needs a new car! LMFAO!
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Re: ObamaCare: No Cancer Treatment After Age 76!!!
Should save many lives. The cancer industry is shaking in their boots. First the report by doctors that the breast cancer screenings CAUSE more cancer than they prevent. Now this.

They have a CURE for cancer already. They just can't make any MONEY if you are cured. So why do you think they haven't announced a cure yet?

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