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I really hope this is true but anyway the risk is too big for San Onofre ..

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San Onofre nuclear plant can withstand up to 7.0 quake, is protected by a 25-foot tsunami wall, Edison says
March 14, 2011 | 10:49 am

Operators of the concrete-domed San Onofre nuclear plant Monday were trying to reassure jittery Southern California residents that the nuclear disaster unfolding in Japan won't happen here.

The 84-acre generating station in the northern corner of San Diego County is built to withstand a magnitude 7.0 earthquake, said Gil Alexander, a spokesman for the generation station's operator, Southern California Edison. That is greater than the 6.5 shaker that scientists predicted could strike the plant before it was built 42 years ago, he said. But it's less than the 8.9 quake that hit Japan last week.

A 25-foot-high "tsunami wall" of reinforced concete was also erected between the plant and the adjacent ocean, a height based on scientists' best estimates of the potential threat, he said. The geological fault most likely to directly threaten San Onofre lies about 5 miles offshore, Alexander said.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission also sought to allay fears that small releases of radiation from Japan's crippled Fukishima reactors were a threat to the U.S.

Available information indicates that weather conditions have carried any radioactive vapors out to sea and away from the Japanese population. Given the thousands of miles between the two countries, Hawaii, Alaska, the U.S. territories and the U.S. West Coast are not expected to experience any harmful levels of radioactivity, the commission said.

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that will not be sufficient...
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Re: Southern California San Onofre Nuclear Plant "can withstand up to 7.0 quake and a 25-foot tsunami wall ", Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant
San Onofre Power Plant Offline, Energy Officials Warn Of Power Outages

04/5/12 AP

LOS ANGELES — It will take more than the flip of a switch to replace power lost from the troubled San Onofre nuclear plant.

State energy officials have already warned of rotating blackouts in the region if a heat wave hits and San Onofre stays dark, and plans for replacement power remain shaky. Also, the loss of the nuclear plant makes it harder to import power into the San Diego area, where reliable energy transmission has long been at issue.

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gee...I'd hate to see a 7.1 earthquake and a 25foot 1 inch wall tsunami
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NRC Chief: San Onofre Won't Restart Until Leak Cause Found; Rolling Blackouts Possible

After touring the plant, official says problems with heat exchanger tubes at nuclear power plant are still under analysis.

"My biggest concern is that I get the impression that what they are saying is that even though the generators are identical, they're treating them differently," he said. "I can't find it in my logic that they would shut down Unit 3 and allow Unit 2 to operate."

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I have a question -what measures are in place to shut down a nuclear facility in the event of another one like Japan has ,how will the water continue to flow with out electricity to cool the rods??bumppeace
Stickyfoot,i think i stepped in something
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that will not be sufficient...
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no, it wont!!
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25 feet? You meant meters, right?
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25 feet? You meant meters, right?
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I only post that they published ..

25 Foot = 7.6200 Meters

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they should build a 30 foot wall around it than.
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So a 7.1 EQ and a raging Wall measuring 26 feet will destroy the place.....
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Depends how was depth EQ, I think M 7.5 is border but it's only my guess ..

This is one of most vulnerable nuclear plant worldwide for seizmic activity's ..

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San Onofre Power Plant Still Leads the Nation in Safety Complaints

April 17, 2012

Despite progress in improving the safety culture of the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station, the plant still ranked highest in the nation last year for both substantiated and unsubstantiated safety complaints at nuclear plants, according to figures from federal regulators.

The San Onofre plant has been shut down since the end of January when a broken tube caused a small radiation leak.

More than 7 million people live within 50 miles of the plant, which is just south of San Clemente.

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Well, I'm glad they don't get any bigger than that then.
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Tough titties!
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CA nuclear plant developing plan to go back online

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Magnitude 3.9
Date-Time

Monday, April 23, 2012 at 17:37:02 UTC
Monday, April 23, 2012 at 10:37:02 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 33.502°N, 117.720°W
Depth 13.1 km (8.1 miles)
Region GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA, CALIFORNIA
Distances

4 km (2 miles) SSW (206°) from Laguna Niguel, CA
4 km (3 miles) NW (324°) from Dana Point, CA
5 km (3 miles) W (274°) from San Juan Capistrano, CA
21 km (13 miles) SSE (162°) from Irvine, CA
78 km (49 miles) SE (141°) from Los Angeles Civic Center, CA
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it would depend if the 7.1M was horizontal or vertical shake.
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O.C. quake was small, but it could make history
April 24, 2012

The earthquake may have measured only a 3.9, but it still could make history in Orange County.

Monday's temblor, centered in the southern suburb of Laguna Niguel, could be the first measured on a fault discovered only 13 years ago and running along the coast from Newport Beach and Costa Mesa to San Juan Capistrano — close to the San Onofre nuclear power plant.

The little-known fault — called the San Joaquin Hills thrust — is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

Experts say Monday's temblor should serve as a wake-up call, particularly to Orange County residents who mistakenly believe that quakes are more of an L.A. problem. Scientists believe that the San Joaquin Hills thrust fault is capable of generating a magnitude 7 quake or greater.

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That is comfrting .... NOT

WE all know the California event will be 8+ easy close M8.5
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What?? Only a 7?... Fucking idiots!
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Also very dangerous location ..

Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant

Diablo Canyon was originally designed to withstand a 6.75 magnitude earthquake from four faults, including the nearby San Andreas and Hosgri faults,[8] but was later upgraded to withstand a 7.5 magnitude quake.[9] It has redundant seismic monitoring and a safety system designed to shut it down promptly in the event of significant ground motion.

Licence expiration
Unit 1: November 2, 2024
Unit 2: August 20, 2025

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Also very dangerous location ..

Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant

Diablo Canyon was originally designed to withstand a 6.75 magnitude earthquake from four faults, including the nearby San Andreas and Hosgri faults,[8] but was later upgraded to withstand a 7.5 magnitude quake.[9] It has redundant seismic monitoring and a safety system designed to shut it down promptly in the event of significant ground motion.

Licence expiration
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Unit 2: August 20, 2025

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see? nothing to worry about kids...
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Oh, GREAT. wE ARE IN TROUBLE
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"More than 1,300 tubes that carry radioactive water inside the San Onofre nuclear plant in Southern California are so damaged that they will be taken out of service, the utility that runs the plant said Tuesday."

"At issue has been the integrity of tubing that snakes through the plant's four steam generators, which were installed in a multimillion-dollar makeover in 2009 and 2010."

"The company is drafting a plan under which the reactors would run at reduced power, at least for several months, because engineers believe that will solve a problem with vibration that the company believes has been causing unusual wear in the alloy tubing."

BUT THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VIBRATION IS

"Activists viewed the new figures as another alarming sign following a tube break in January, which prompted Edison to shut down the Unit 3 reactor as a precaution. Traces of radiation escaped at the time, but officials said there was no danger to workers or neighbors.

Unit 2 was taken offline in January for routine maintenance, but investigators later confirmed accelerated wear on tubing in both units.

"It seems that these new steam generators are falling apart and Edison doesn't know why. It would be foolhardy to restart, even at reduced power, under the current circumstances," said Daniel Hirsch, a nuclear watchdog who lectures on nuclear policy at the University of California, Santa Cruz."

the weird thing about this story tho is that it comes accompanied with a video that announces "RADIATION FINALLY HUTS CALIFORNIA COAST"

the way they report this it makes one think that radiation is hitting california from fukashima for the very 1st time NOW.
i reloaded the page to see if the same video would again play and it did. i thought maybe the video was a mistake and something from long ago, but no, here it is, a video stating radiation is reaching california finally NOW from fukashima. telling everyoen not to go buy iodide pills and claiming there is none anyway, they are all sold out.


WEIRD.

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Officials at the San Onofre nuclear plant said it's possible that vibration sensors in the plant's backup diesel generators could be tripped by an earthquake, leading to shutdown of the generators.

Plant operator Southern California Edison reported the potential issue to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and said it has disabled the sensors while it looks into the issue.

The diesel generators provide power to the plant and keep safety systems running in the event of a power outage. The generators have sensors that are set up to shut the generators down if they identify excessive vibration that could be caused by mechanical engine damage.

Edison was preparing to replace one of the sensors, originally installed in 1981, when an engineer questioned whether an earthquake could trip the sensor and cause shutdown of the generators, the company reported.

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

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They should re-enforce it.
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Plan for damaged nuke plant may need long review

8 hours ago • Associated Press

Federal regulators have disclosed that the proposed restart of the long-shuttered San Onofre nuclear power plant on California's coast could require an amendment to the plant's operating license, leading to an exhaustive review that could last months or even years.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is considering if the complex proposal submitted by operator Southern California Edison last week to repair and start the damaged Unit 2 reactor will require the license change, Regional Administrator Elmo Collins told reporters Monday.

Such reviews can involve a thicket of public hearings, appeals and commission actions on safety and design issues that can take as long as two years to complete.

In a March letter, federal regulators outlined a series of benchmarks Edison must reach to restart the plant, including determining the cause of vibration and friction that damaged scores of steam generator tubes, how it would be fixed and then monitored during operation.

Those requirements, however, did not involve amending the plant's operating license.

Collins said Edison contends an amendment is not needed, and NRC officials have indicated previously that a staff-level review of the restart plan could be completed within months.

It's "an open question" if a license amendment is needed, Collins said during a news conference. "It's a possibility. I'm not saying yes or no."

Edison spokeswoman Jennifer Manfre said in a statement Monday that the company "will not restart Unit 2 until the NRC states it is safe to do so."

"We have submitted our ... restart plans. SCE won't speculate on what the NRC would determine to be necessary in that evaluation," she said.

The problems at San Onofre centered on four steam generators that were installed during a $670 million overhaul in 2009 and 2010.

Anti-nuclear activists have argued for months that restarting the plant, located between San Diego and Los Angeles, would invite catastrophe. About 7.4 million Californians live within 50 miles of San Onofre's twin domes.


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I have a question -what measures are in place to shut down a nuclear facility in the event of another one like Japan has ,how will the water continue to flow with out electricity to cool the rods??bumppeace
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All Reactors Have steam driven pumps to keep the water flowing. That only a breakup of the piping can interfere with. Fukashima was a planned event. How you say? Reactor #4 had the lid off and no fuel rods and it exploded too. Gun barrel nukes 1 kiloton yeild. Look it up the evidence is all over the internet and is quite convincing. Have not been able to come up an alternet answer.
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gee...I'd hate to see a 7.1 earthquake and a 25foot 1 inch wall tsunami
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Yeah, that would suck
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so anything above a 7.5 could possibly cause a nuclear meltdown...

I probably couldve built it better...
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Spent Nuclear Fuel Stored in U.S. Reactors

Institute for Policy Studies

Spent Nuclear Fuel Stored in U.S. Reactors
There are 104 U.S. commercial nuclear reactors
operating at 64 sites in 31 states that are holding
some of the largest concentrations of radioactivity
on the planet in onsite spent fuel pools. The
pools, typically rectangular or L-shaped basins about 40
to 50 feet deep, are made of reinforced concrete walls
four to five feet thick and stainless steel liners. Basins
without steel liners are more susceptible to cracks and
corrosion. Most of the spent fuel ponds at boiling water
reactors are housed in reactor buildings several stories
above ground. Pools at pressurized water reactors are
partially or fully embedded in the ground, sometimes
above tunnels or underground rooms.

According to estimates provided by the Department
of Energy, as of this year this spent fuel contains
a total of approximately 12 billion curies of long-lived
radioactivity (Table 1).6
Of the 65,000 metric tons estimated by the Nuclear Energy Institute
to be generated by the end of 2010, 75 percent is in pools, while the remainder is in dry storage casks. Several of these reactors
are located in earthquake zones (Figure 5).

The Energy Department provided this estimate
in 2002 to project the amount of spent fuel that
would be placed in a geologic repository — a failed plan
predicated on the presumption that such a site would radioactivity in spent fuel (4.5 billion curies) for both
designs is from cesium-137. This is about four to five
times the amount of cesium-137 in their reactor cores.

For example, Vermont's Yankee boiling water Mark I
reactor holds nearly three times the amount of spent
fuel that was stored in the pool at the crippled Fukushima
Dai-Ichi Unit 4 reactor (Figure 8).
Spent fuel at U.S. nuclear reactors contains
roughly 20 times more cesium-137 than was released
by more than 650 atmospheric nuclear weapons tests
throughout the world

Based on estimates provided by the Energy Department
there are:
• 28 reactor sites that have generated spent
fuel containing about 200-450 million curies
of radioactivity (Figure 9);
• 19 reactor sites that have generated spent
fuel containing about 10-100 million curies
of radioactivity (Figure 10); and
• 24 reactor sites that have generated about
10-100 million curies (Figure 11).

www.ips-dc.org/files/3200/spent_nuclear_fuel_pools_in_the_US.​pdf

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190 miles from San Onofre nuclear plant

2012-12-14 10:36:01.0 31.19 N 119.60 W 10 6.4 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA

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