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Proof the 7 year "tribulation" started in 2011 - It will end in 2018

 
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Proof the 7 year "tribulation" started in 2011 - It will end in 2018
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I was alerted in a dream that the timing is wrong on the Abomination of Desolation. Will fix when I get the chance!



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Image - Timeline of tribulation comparing how the real events will transpire as well as how deceived dispensationalists will view events.

Before the 7 year window

In this article we will attempt to form a general outline of when the events of the tribulation will occur. Obviously it is still very early to be making accurate predictions at this point and time. The timing of some of these prophecies will be unknowable because many of them are based on information that we do not have and cannot have until it is revealed later. I tried to give an estimation of when these events will happen regardless.

How long will the tribulation be? The Bible verse which many use to form their belief that the tribulation will be 7 years long is purposely distorted by Satan to promote an agenda. Nonetheless, I do think that the events described in Revelation do fall within a rough 7 year window though it is considerably different than the window whom mainstream preachers promote. I believe that the start of this window was July of 2011. The ending of this window will be in 2018 when Mystery Babylon the Great, which is Israel, is destroyed following the events that immediately proceed its destruction. I believe these first 5 years will be considerably less violent than the 2 which will immediately proceed it. The 3.5 years where Satan persecutes the woman falls within the first 5 years. This is when the Witnesses as well as the firstfruits will be killed. This last more violent 2 years starts when the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place.

Many people mistakenly believe that the following passage states that the little horn will start a covenant with Israel for one week.

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah (JESUS) be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come (JESUS OR OTHER PERSON?) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he (JESUS) shall confirm the (EVERLASTING) covenant with many for (THE WORD FOR IS AN ENGLISH ADDITION) one week (THE FINAL 70TH WEEK WHERE HE IS CRUCIFIED): and in the midst (SOMETIME WITHIN THE WEEK) of the week he (JESUS) shall cause the sacrifice (OLD COVENANT ANIMAL SACRIFICE) and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he (OTHER PERSON) shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Daniel 9:24-27 KJV)

About 75% of the Bible translations indicate that there are two people being talked about. The person whom causes the sacrifice to cease as well as the person who causes the abomination. The ASV is just one of the many Bible versions which document the fact that there are two people being talked about here.

27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
(Daniel 9:27 ASV)

Mainstream Christians claim that the antichrist will start a covenant with Israel for one week. This is contradicting almost 75% of the various Bible translations out there whom acknowledge the fact that two entities are being talked about. Nevertheless I do think that the Mahdi will sign a covenant with Israel for 7 years to manipulate Christians. He will do this because he wants to distort the timeline of the tribulation. The real 7 year window will start at least 1.5 years before the Dispensationalists and Zionist Christians believe that it will start. The event that marks their 7 year window is the signing of the covenant. The Bible states that God’s firstfruits are those who are not defiled by women (churches) for they are virgins (spiritually pure) (Revelation 14:4). This implies that the mainstream churches and Christian movements will be deceived or controlled by Satan in the End Times.

Daniel 9:24-27 is referring to Daniel’s 70 week (490 years) prophecy. It is alluding to the time that God has given Judah to repent of their sins before the messiah would come. Satan has twisted this passage to make it appear like it is talking about the antichrist or little horn. You would think that Jesus’ 3.5 years of ministry would be at least deserving of mention in the 490 year period? Why mention the little horn but leave out the coming of the anointed one our savior Jesus? Satan is promoting the idea that there is some massive gap between the 69th and 70th week that stretches from Jesus’ era to the present day. Why wouldn’t the last week be a continuation of the earlier ones? Why have a massive gap stretching over 1000 years to make this prophecy work? This passage is about the final 70th week of Jesus’ baptism and crucifixion. Jesus promised Israel a messiah. Jesus brought about the fulfillment of this prophecy in the 483 year of the 490 years. This is the exact moment that one would expect it to be fulfilled. It was Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross that caused the Old Covenant sacrifice laws to be irrelevant. Jesus’ ministry lasted 3.5 years. Satan has instead misled others into believing that this is talking about the antichrist. There is no other mention of a 7 year period or the antichrist or little horn signing a covenant with anybody elsewhere in the bible.

He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. (Daniel 9:27)

Satan has twisted this scripture to make it look like it is talking about the antichrist rather than Jesus. Notice also that while the Bible emphatically states “he will confirm a covenant with many,” all of the controlled preachers substitute the word for many as Israel. Where in the Bible does it state he will confirm a covenant with Israel for 7 years? Satan is twisting these scriptures purposely. Satan will tell his counterfeit antichrist to make a peace treaty with Israel. When Satan’s counterfeit starts his 7 year treaty with Israel, Christians, incorrectly assuming that the prophecy was talking about the antichrist rather than Jesus, will be fooled into believing that the 7 year period started later than it actually did. The 7 year window really started in 2011 with the calling of the two witnesses.

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Last Edited by Johnthewitness on 04/09/2012 07:09 PM
How is Satan going to deceive scrupulous Bible savvy Christians who are watchful and weary of any moves towards a one world government? These Christians know that the Bible warns about a Satanic End Times kingdom and they would cause an uproar at the formation of such. Satan therefore must disarm these Christians. He must create a puppet Illuminati organization which presides over the creation of this supposed New World Order, he will create a counterfeit of all the major prophecies in Revelation, a counterfeit regathering of Israel, a mark of the beast, New World Order, Mystery Babylon the Great etc.

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How is Satan going to deceive scrupulous Bible savvy Christians who are watchful and weary of any moves towards a one world government? These Christians know that the Bible warns about a Satanic End Times kingdom and they would cause an uproar at the formation of such. Satan therefore must disarm these Christians. He must create a puppet Illuminati organization which presides over the creation of this supposed New World Order, he will create a counterfeit of all the major prophecies in Revelation, a counterfeit regathering of Israel, a mark of the beast, New World Order, Mystery Babylon the Great etc.

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I was alerted in a dream that the timing is wrong on the Abomination of Desolation. Will fix when I get the chance!



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Image - Timeline of tribulation comparing how the real events will transpire as well as how deceived dispensationalists will view events.

Before the 7 year window

In this article we will attempt to form a general outline of when the events of the tribulation will occur. Obviously it is still very early to be making accurate predictions at this point and time. The timing of some of these prophecies will be unknowable because many of them are based on information that we do not have and cannot have until it is revealed later. I tried to give an estimation of when these events will happen regardless.

How long will the tribulation be? The Bible verse which many use to form their belief that the tribulation will be 7 years long is purposely distorted by Satan to promote an agenda. Nonetheless, I do think that the events described in Revelation do fall within a rough 7 year window though it is considerably different than the window whom mainstream preachers promote. I believe that the start of this window was July of 2011. The ending of this window will be in 2018 when Mystery Babylon the Great, which is Israel, is destroyed following the events that immediately proceed its destruction. I believe these first 5 years will be considerably less violent than the 2 which will immediately proceed it. The 3.5 years where Satan persecutes the woman falls within the first 5 years. This is when the Witnesses as well as the firstfruits will be killed. This last more violent 2 years starts when the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place.

Many people mistakenly believe that the following passage states that the little horn will start a covenant with Israel for one week.

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah (JESUS) be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come (JESUS OR OTHER PERSON?) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he (JESUS) shall confirm the (EVERLASTING) covenant with many for (THE WORD FOR IS AN ENGLISH ADDITION) one week (THE FINAL 70TH WEEK WHERE HE IS CRUCIFIED): and in the midst (SOMETIME WITHIN THE WEEK) of the week he (JESUS) shall cause the sacrifice (OLD COVENANT ANIMAL SACRIFICE) and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he (OTHER PERSON) shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Daniel 9:24-27 KJV)

About 75% of the Bible translations indicate that there are two people being talked about. The person whom causes the sacrifice to cease as well as the person who causes the abomination. The ASV is just one of the many Bible versions which document the fact that there are two people being talked about here.

27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
(Daniel 9:27 ASV)

Mainstream Christians claim that the antichrist will start a covenant with Israel for one week. This is contradicting almost 75% of the various Bible translations out there whom acknowledge the fact that two entities are being talked about. Nevertheless I do think that the Mahdi will sign a covenant with Israel for 7 years to manipulate Christians. He will do this because he wants to distort the timeline of the tribulation. The real 7 year window will start at least 1.5 years before the Dispensationalists and Zionist Christians believe that it will start. The event that marks their 7 year window is the signing of the covenant. The Bible states that God’s firstfruits are those who are not defiled by women (churches) for they are virgins (spiritually pure) (Revelation 14:4). This implies that the mainstream churches and Christian movements will be deceived or controlled by Satan in the End Times.

Daniel 9:24-27 is referring to Daniel’s 70 week (490 years) prophecy. It is alluding to the time that God has given Judah to repent of their sins before the messiah would come. Satan has twisted this passage to make it appear like it is talking about the antichrist or little horn. You would think that Jesus’ 3.5 years of ministry would be at least deserving of mention in the 490 year period? Why mention the little horn but leave out the coming of the anointed one our savior Jesus? Satan is promoting the idea that there is some massive gap between the 69th and 70th week that stretches from Jesus’ era to the present day. Why wouldn’t the last week be a continuation of the earlier ones? Why have a massive gap stretching over 1000 years to make this prophecy work? This passage is about the final 70th week of Jesus’ baptism and crucifixion. Jesus promised Israel a messiah. Jesus brought about the fulfillment of this prophecy in the 483 year of the 490 years. This is the exact moment that one would expect it to be fulfilled. It was Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross that caused the Old Covenant sacrifice laws to be irrelevant. Jesus’ ministry lasted 3.5 years. Satan has instead misled others into believing that this is talking about the antichrist. There is no other mention of a 7 year period or the antichrist or little horn signing a covenant with anybody elsewhere in the bible.

He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. (Daniel 9:27)

Satan has twisted this scripture to make it look like it is talking about the antichrist rather than Jesus. Notice also that while the Bible emphatically states “he will confirm a covenant with many,” all of the controlled preachers substitute the word for many as Israel. Where in the Bible does it state he will confirm a covenant with Israel for 7 years? Satan is twisting these scriptures purposely. Satan will tell his counterfeit antichrist to make a peace treaty with Israel. When Satan’s counterfeit starts his 7 year treaty with Israel, Christians, incorrectly assuming that the prophecy was talking about the antichrist rather than Jesus, will be fooled into believing that the 7 year period started later than it actually did. The 7 year window really started in 2011 with the calling of the two witnesses.

continued
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On a quick scan, most everything else you say is correct..the first 3 1/2 years is until Jesus is "cut off"...it is HE who confirms the covenant..not any "antiChrist". It is also so true that animal sacrifices are ended forever. [Hebrews] In fact the temple the antiChrist is revealed in is spiritual..[the word used in scripture is "naos" not "hieron"] The born again church is clearly that spiritual temple..the "new Jerusalem" as opposed to that cursed carnal Jerusalem.

This make it more likely for a 3 1/2 trib and we ARE indeed in that prophesied tribulation right now...You should have guessed..it's a Judaic one. You know..banks that steal real wealth and media that covers it up its crimes..politicians and preachers who grovel at AIPAC and CUFI gatherings...and all the lost believers who choose to be blind to this obvious control over their government and their lives. That's the "mark" , you know, that blinded mind which adores the very crowd that brings the horrors of war, debt and police state control upon them.

If you didn't know...God's wrath is a mop-up operation as they "are destroyed by the very brightness of HIS coming."
When they lie and say they are not appointed to "God's wrath"..you might remind them of this..and assure them that the tribulation is man-made.

When Jesus walked the earth HE was Israel in it's entirety..the rest were lost. [HIS words not mine} Jesus recreated Israel into a spiritual nation as it was prophesied HE would do. [Jeremiah]

It is the blindness to the endless crimes of carnal Israel that is a spell or in modern parlance a psy-opted mind.
It is prophesied that two thirds of organized religion will be cut off and the other third will be purified..so don't expect much support.
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If we are "living Stones" making a spiritual temple "the abomination of desolation" is carnal Israel and it's inclusion in what should be pure Christianity. Judeo-Christianity is an unholy synthesis..notice when James let the judaizers into the church at Jerusalem, Paul cursed it and called it a different gospel and another Jesus...a few years later that church was completely destroyed [70 AD].

The tree the unsaved gentiles are grafted to is born-again Israel...[re. the conversation between Nicodemus and Jesus] The marred vessel is remade [prophesied by Jeremiah] and this is clearly taught in the New Testament.

Carnal Israel had become Babylon in it's practices and teachings [detailed in the book of Ezekiel] To them., it was said..
"because you have deemed yourself unworthy of eternal life, lo, we turn to the gentiles"

As for all the new priest and kings of the remade born again Israel, Christ said "It is finished" and "I have lost none" This does not leave any room for future repenting after others "float off".

I can't abide thread-killing whole page cut and pasting, but if anyone has a pointed and pithy question, I will attempt to give you a brief answer. I hope someone does.

Dialectical compromising is something I will not address..don't try to convince me of a current doctrine being preached in a fallen church..I've heard all of it before, and, having the mind of Christ, I'm sure I know much more than most of you.

Please don't bother me with regurgitated teachings of proven liars like Missler, Hagee, Lindsay, or LeHaye. Just ask the question and expect a scriptually accurate answer.
A brief one.

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