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SERVE on Jury Duty lately? It's hell. Pure hell.

 
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As a US Citizen you have the right to a jury trial of your peers. What if you were wrongfully accused of a crime and were wrongfully arrested and detained. Wouldn't you want help? How would you feel if your peers refused to be on your jury?

How would you feel if a death panel was assigned to seal your fate?
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My educational background (Master's Degree) gets me dismissed every time...that, and I'm a white male.
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I never had to take it that far, but I was considering asking if it was black or Mexican...think that would disqualify me...at least for the defense...
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oh please, land of the free, home of the brave and all that patriotic, mind numbing jazz. all just to keep people complacent and to not question anything since it's "un-patriotic" to question the mind controlling authorities.
the judicial system is a joke.
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... I don't trust the courts one bit.

Corruption is rampant.
I had one of the court workers document and sign my jury notice that I did not have to report for duty.
I was told by a good source, this is what you need to do if you don't have to go.

THere have been cases of abuse with this.

So, if you report on jury duty that day, and they say you don't have to show up

make certain you have one of the people write a simple sentence you were absolved from having to go, sign and date the note.

THis is to cover your "ass" in case they come back at you and say you did not appear

THere have been cases
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So, if the courts are not trustworthy and full of corruption, how is anyone supposed to get a fair trial if citizens don't do a thorough job on the jury, try to detect and see through obfuscation and tricks, and stand up to give a just result to the trial?
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You really have no idea what goes on.

I had a long time friend who is a lawyer.


My lawyer friend is now retired but has seen it all so to speak...
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My educational background (Master's Degree) gets me dismissed every time...that, and I'm a white male.
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Who dismisses you, the prosecutor or the defense?

I got picked despite being a white male with a BSEE. But I've never even been called for jury duty since then. I have an "asterisk" next to my name now maybe?
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... I don't trust the courts one bit.

Corruption is rampant.
I had one of the court workers document and sign my jury notice that I did not have to report for duty.
I was told by a good source, this is what you need to do if you don't have to go.

THere have been cases of abuse with this.

So, if you report on jury duty that day, and they say you don't have to show up

make certain you have one of the people write a simple sentence you were absolved from having to go, sign and date the note.

THis is to cover your "ass" in case they come back at you and say you did not appear

THere have been cases
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498912


So, if the courts are not trustworthy and full of corruption, how is anyone supposed to get a fair trial if citizens don't do a thorough job on the jury, try to detect and see through obfuscation and tricks, and stand up to give a just result to the trial?
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You really have no idea what goes on.

I had a long time friend who is a lawyer.


My lawyer friend is now retired but has seen it all so to speak...
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So ... you would be a great juror who could detect some attempts to mess with the truth coming out at trial. Jaded people who know too much is EXACTLY what we need to help juries avoid being tricked!
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04/10/2012 09:58 AM
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Why not just skip jury service and watch a show with your Mum?

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Oh - that's why.....
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My educational background (Master's Degree) gets me dismissed every time...that, and I'm a white male.
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Who dismisses you, the prosecutor or the defense?

I got picked despite being a white male with a BSEE. But I've never even been called for jury duty since then. I have an "asterisk" next to my name now maybe?
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The defense...
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My educational background (Master's Degree) gets me dismissed every time...that, and I'm a white male.
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Who dismisses you, the prosecutor or the defense?

I got picked despite being a white male with a BSEE. But I've never even been called for jury duty since then. I have an "asterisk" next to my name now maybe?
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The defense...
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Heh maybe they're guilty. You show up and go thru voir dire, that's all you can do.
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I was on a jury a few months ago.

It made me sad to see what a load of crap our justice system has become. In my particular trial, they didin't have shit on the defendent.

The only reason pure and simple we were there, was the victim was a retired cop. Theye needed to pin it on someone just to appease a good ol'boy.

Had the victim been an average citizen, it would never had gone to trial.
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I was excited to receive my jury duty notice a couple of years ago, but my 'honesty' cause my immediate dismissal by BOTH Lawyers !

Was asked repeatedly by both lawyers, ' WAS I going to FOLLOW the instructions of the Judge ' , till it was clear that they were TELLING ME I must do what he said. I quoted the law, saying once I was in the jury room, we were free to discuss the 'law' and did it apply !

Had several quotes from famous Supreme Court judges saying exactly the SAME THING. They were asking me to follow the judges recomendations to the point of NOT thinking for ones self, and I was refusing.

Eagle
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Keep your cards closer to the vest next time. We need folks like you on the actual juries.
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I was on a jury a few months ago.

It made me sad to see what a load of crap our justice system has become. In my particular trial, they didin't have shit on the defendent.

The only reason pure and simple we were there, was the victim was a retired cop. Theye needed to pin it on someone just to appease a good ol'boy.

Had the victim been an average citizen, it would never had gone to trial.
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I think it was always like this and always will be. We have to keep showing up on juries and fixing the problems one case at a time.
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04/10/2012 01:28 PM
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Even if you never end up going through Voir Dire, you can still end up sitting around for *days* as they move through the selection process.

Having been involved in the "justice system" (and I use that term loosely), I'm already tainted by the American court system.

And my experiences on jury duty just sealed the deal.

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I'm sure it's a pain and uncomfortable but we need good jurors. Especially for tax trials.
Don't bitch about the laws if you're not willing to do something to make a difference.

We sit here bitch bitch bitch but no ones is willing ever to stand up to the plate.
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Well we should have a right to bitch, I pay taxes, haven't broken the law not even a speeding ticket the last 15 years. Why should I be punished for something that someone else has done. I do not want to sit on jury duty. It is BS. I got called up when I lived in Denton Tx and even though they told me that I would not have to serve, the judge would not let us go until 2pm. What a bunch of BS
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... I don't trust the courts one bit.

Corruption is rampant.
I had one of the court workers document and sign my jury notice that I did not have to report for duty.
I was told by a good source, this is what you need to do if you don't have to go.

THere have been cases of abuse with this.

So, if you report on jury duty that day, and they say you don't have to show up

make certain you have one of the people write a simple sentence you were absolved from having to go, sign and date the note.

THis is to cover your "ass" in case they come back at you and say you did not appear

THere have been cases
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498912


So, if the courts are not trustworthy and full of corruption, how is anyone supposed to get a fair trial if citizens don't do a thorough job on the jury, try to detect and see through obfuscation and tricks, and stand up to give a just result to the trial?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203


Guess you have to pay for a VERY good lawyer. Being rich helps.
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Calm down everybody.

Just show up and be NORMAL and you will be rejected to serve.
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I showed up with all three of my kids and told the Bailiff that I didn't have a babysitter...they weren't happy but let me go and told me I'd be called again soon, and no more excuses. A few months later I got the papers telling me to report again, so I called the number and told them I was just there for duty and I shouldn't be called again so soon...they saw where I signed in last time and apologized, because they have to wait at least two years :)
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clappa

Sometimes you annoy me with your post.

But then you go and post something like this... and totally redeem yourself goodnews
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I have, and it was a glimpse of hell on earth.

If I could revoke my voter registration and never have to go through that again, I would, but I'm told they now pull DMV records for jury pools, so unless I'm willing to give up driving, I may get called again.

Can someone explain *WHY* when the thugs of the world commit a crime, I'm sentenced to be locked up in a municipal building for several days until the crime is resolved in some way?

We were told that,

1) If we did not show up for jury duty, we would be jailed.
2) If we left during our time of municipal-building-lock-up, we would be found out and jailed.

Just how is that "voluntary service"?

Here in the south, you're parked in a small room with five televisions blaring and no escape. There are no cell phones allowed, no cameras, no iPods, no iPads, no laptops, no nothing.

Not a prayer of reading a book, because of the five televisions going full blast all day long.

It really is ugly.
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Involuntary slavery has been abolished but NOT voluntary slavery. If they demand something from you and you do not present them with a FEE SCHEDULE, then you are a voluntary slave. Next time tell them what it will cost them to have you perform jury duty. Also tell them they must pay in advance.
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Don't bitch about the laws if you're not willing to do something to make a difference.

We sit here bitch bitch bitch but no ones is willing ever to stand up to the plate.
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How does serving on a jury have any impact on the laws?

My point is, I'm a law-abiding citizen, but if some thug breaks the law, I'm the one who gets locked up and deprived of my freedom, under penalty of ARREST if I try to leave.

That just makes no sense whatsoever.

And guess what - lawyers are automatically exempted from service. Guess who made *that* rule?
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What if he didn't break the law?

That's what the jury is there to decide. (If you are willing to consider nullification, they're also there to decide if that law should be enforced in the given instance.)

Are you aware that prosecutors often don't care about justice, they're just rabid attack dogs who want as many convictions as possible? That's what our "adversarial system of justice" means!
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You are a very good American. Kudos for doing the right thing
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Be biased during the interview and get kicked out. Duh.



Otherwise; if a juror. EXERCISE YOUR WILLPOWER. And no I don't mean an RPG statistic, I mean WILL POWER.
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data base is generated by voters' regisration system in the states normally
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Not in California, they are pulling from DMV data base.
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Was called to jury duty years ago,

They asked if there was any reason that would disqualify me.

I told them I was in a head on accident, that I suffered brain trauma, and that my ability to remember had been cut down to around 1 hour.

Have not heard from them since,

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