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Why Israel Will Attack Iran

 
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"I heard arguments, rooted in Israeli history and mindset, not commonly aired in the United States, that led me to the sobering conclusion that, absent a dramatic diplomatic breakthrough, Israel will pre-emptively strike Iran before too long—even if it has to go it alone.

What I didn’t know (or had failed to consider)... are the following:"


Israel has no faith that Obama will spearhead or join with them in an attack on Iran’s nuclear installations. No American president has ever intervened militarily to prevent a Mid-east country from going nuclear. In the notable cases of Iraq and Syria, America stood by, warned the Israelis not to do it and then expressed admiration for Israel’s success.

In the perception of the Israelis, Obama acts on basis of reason, not emotion (I certainly hope so). This makes it unlikely he will intervene. Indeed, the US may be unable to do much to help if Iran turns a nuclear device over to terrorists who detonate a dirty bomb in a suitcase in downtown Tel Aviv, and leave no Iranian fingerprints.

The Jewish state was founded in 1948 because history through the millennia had taught the jewish people it was folly to rely on the good will of other people for their survival. Why should they trust Obama now just because he says “We’ve Got Israel’s Back”—whatever that means?

For Israelis, the issue is existential. The last time a madman publicly called for the “extinction” of the Jewish people in Europe, he wasn’t kidding and damn near succeeded.
The overwhelming majority of Israelis want to strike Iran, although a not insignificant number want to do it in conjunction with the United States.

The advice of the international community to temporize has been historically bad advice for Israel. As Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu reflected recently, had Ben Gurion acceded to the wishes of other countries that he delay declaring independence in 1948, there would have been no State of Israel.

A nuclear Iran in Israel’s calculus will likely trigger a nuclear arms race in the region. Someone highly placed I spoke with had just returned from India where he met with senior officials. The Indians think that if Iran goes nuclear, the Saudis (and other states in region) will most certainly buy a bomb from Pakistan.

Jordan, an Arab neighbor friendly to Israel, is already starting a “peaceful” nuclear program. What does Israel do if Jordan’s Hashemite regime is overthrown by radical elements in its Palestinian majority and joins the ranks of Israel’s nuclear enemies? Israel is already losing leverage over the Jordanians because Jordan is busily building a 325 km water pipeline from an underground aquifer near Saudi Arabia to Amaan. Once the pipeline is completed, they will be less dependent on Israel which currently supplies them with water.

Time is not working in Israel’s favor. If Israel delays an attack, the Iranian’s will have buried their reactors and plutonium reservoirs in bunkers so deep that their arsenal will have a “zone of immunity.”

Israel itself has the bomb together with an arsenal of modern weaponry, but this is hardly a cold war style deterrent. Iran may not use the bomb right away, but Israel fears the Mullahs may well use it on the way out if they are about to be overthrown in a “Persian Spring” uprising. And if this happens, is it a deterrent to Iran’s murderous Mullahs that Israel might retaliate against the very dissidents who ousted the regime? Israelis are quick to recall that Hitler stepped up the murders of the Holocaust into an orgy of killing after D-Day when it was clear that Germany would lose the war.

Jerusalem with its large Arab population is not immune from Iranian attack. Although Ron Paul suggests that Iran would never bomb the Al Aqsa mosque sacred to Muslims, Shiite books indicate that the mosque in Jerusalem is not so important to Shia as it is to Sunni Muslims. And Israelis are quick to point out that when Iran’s cat’s paw Hezbollah shelled Haifa, and Muslims died, Iran said they were “martyrs”.

Israel feels it is well prepared for eventual reprisals and howls of execration from the international community should it act against Iran. When asked what his country would do if Israel struck Iran, the foreign minister of a Gulf state was recently quoted as saying, “First we break out the Champagne, then we denounce them at the UN.”



Israel is beset with a Masada complex. If they do nothing, they fear they may not survive very much longer. If they act now, they will more probably survive or die with honor.

General Petraeus told me not so long ago, “I don’t know which is scarier—if Israel attacks Iran or if they don’t attack Iran.” Sobering stuff.

As the US and Israel ponder their course, I saw a military Boeing refueling fighter jets on maneuvers high above the Negev.
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I hope so, then Iran can wipe Israel off the map in legal retaliation
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Because you guys have reached the magic 6 million figure:

Thread: Mid-East War Imminent as Israel Reaches 6 million figure

Plans long prepared have been set in motion.
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04/10/2012 03:21 PM
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My hopes and prayers for the people of Israel. May you be victorious in removing an evil entity from this worldhf
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Get with the program buddy, the war has been cancelled due to lack of interest.banana2
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04/10/2012 03:23 PM
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My hopes and prayers for the people of Israel. May you be victorious in removing an evil entity from this worldhf
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hf
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Israel can't even stop rockets entering, how the hell are they going to stop thousands of missiles in retaliation from Iran entering Israel.

One missile strike on an Israeli nuclear plant will make Fukishima look like an insect fart.

Israel has taken far too long to do anything about it. The zionists in America expected this to be done 4-5 years ago. When it was easier for America to back Israel to the enth degree.

Now time has passed its harder and genarally people can see through the bullshit now.

Harder to pull off false flags and war crimes.

Good luck with that OP. hope you have a deep bunker
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Thread: BREAKING: Iran says arrests "major terrorist group" linked to Israel
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I hope so, then Iran can wipe Israel off the map in legal retaliation
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Maybe the allies should have wiped Germany off the map at the end of ww2, in retaliation?
Oh...did I just mention the war? I wasn't supposed to mention the war...
Sorry
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My hopes and prayers for the people of Israel. May you be victorious in removing an evil entity from this worldhf
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This/\
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I hope Obama condemns them for doing what has to be done, so then it will be followed his swift kick in the ass out of the whitehouse, hey two birds with one stone per say tounge
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Israel can't even stop rockets entering, how the hell are they going to stop thousands of missiles in retaliation from Iran entering Israel. = Have you heard of Israels Anti Missile Shield? Here are links to a few...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


One missile strike on an Israeli nuclear plant will make Fukishima look like an insect fart.

Israel has taken far too long to do anything about it. The zionists in America expected this to be done 4-5 years ago. When it was easier for America to back Israel to the enth degree. = Obama

Now time has passed its harder and genarally people can see through the bullshit now.

Harder to pull off false flags and war crimes.

Good luck with that OP. hope you have a deep bunker
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Zionists are retarded psychotics. Somebody tackle them.
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Zionists are retarded psychotics. Somebody tackle them.
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clappa
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Israel can't even stop rockets entering, how the hell are they going to stop thousands of missiles in retaliation from Iran entering Israel. = Have you heard of Israels Anti Missile Shield? Here are links to a few...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


One missile strike on an Israeli nuclear plant will make Fukishima look like an insect fart.

Israel has taken far too long to do anything about it. The zionists in America expected this to be done 4-5 years ago. When it was easier for America to back Israel to the enth degree. = Obama

Now time has passed its harder and genarally people can see through the bullshit now.

Harder to pull off false flags and war crimes.

Good luck with that OP. hope you have a deep bunker
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cruise

You're funny.

the best bit about your fail links were the amount of US contributions running into the billions for such programs.

Can't you afford anything yourselves without US tax money.

plus these systems will fail when faced with 200,000 missiles in 7 minutes.

Like I said good luck with that.

Deluded much??
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My hopes and prayers for the people of Israel. May you be victorious in removing an evil entity from this worldhf
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hf
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You will eat shit and die very quickly, go it alone if you have courage. Filthy lying animals.


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What a bullshit thread to be pinned! Attack Iran? And you speak of peace? IRAN will not be the one who will attack first but will defend with all might!

STOP SPREADING HATE ABOUT IRAN!

The 2% nutters who scream "Down with Israel" are payed sheeples who get their yearly salary from KHAMENEI'S pocket.

Theses slogans have been for 33 years. And now you talk about spreading hate and fear from the Iran side? ISRAEL IS A TERRORIST NATION! How do you like that?
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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The hate i see spreading across this world is from the Je.ws! GET OVER IT!
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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plus these systems will fail when faced with 200,000 missiles in 7 minutes.

Like I said good luck with that.

Deluded much??
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Nobody is going to fire 200,000 missile in 7 minutes. That's just dumb.
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Jewdethz, if you love Israel so much, why don't you move there? My guess is your afraid your backside will get burnt from an Iranian rocket...

How sad whatever
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My hopes and prayers for the people of Israel. May you be victorious in removing an evil entity from this worldhf
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hf
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You will eat shit and die very quickly, go it alone if you have courage. Filthy lying animals.



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Anonymous Coward talking!!! Whatever!!!

lmao
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Israel's days are in peril.
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The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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Thread: BREAKING ---- WWIII Countdown: jewish people controlled CFR Declares "Time To Attack Iran"

A series of CIA memos describes how Israeli Mossad agents posed as American spies to recruit members of the terrorist organization Jundallah to fight their covert war against Iran.

[link to www.foreignpolicy.com]

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AND they are succeeding as well...

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BECAUSE US MEDIA BELIEVE & KNOW YOU ALL ARE SHEEPLE !

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The hate i see spreading across this world is from the Je.ws! GET OVER IT!
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Then you ought to do everything in your power to rid the wacko's running your country.

It's like your neighbor saying "watch your back" I'm going to come over and kick your ass!Israel has a right to protect themselves,and your statement is an oxymoron.

jerkit
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What you gonna do, if they don't?! lmao
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The hate i see spreading across this world is from the Je.ws! GET OVER IT!
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Then you ought to do everything in your power to rid the wacko's running your country.

It's like your neighbor saying "watch your back" I'm going to come over and kick your ass!Israel has a right to protect themselves,and your statement is an oxymoron.

jerkit
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Yeah an uprising like whats happening in the mid-east and then a TPTB country like yours to occupy and get in control of us! NO FUCKEN WAY!
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks

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