Gundersen warns about No. 3 fuel pool: Worse than No. 4 — Mechanically it’s rubble, the pool is rubble — Nobody has even gotten near it yet

The world is fucked

Australia after Japan!

Last Edited by Troop on 04/11/2012 02:30 AM

Why is this story finally getting wider attention, a year later?

The Japanese press, which has been following the government line, is starting to break out. On April 2nd, Takao Yamada, Expert Senior Writer for the Mainichi paper, said, quote: "The 7-story building itself has suffered great damage, with the storage pool barely intact on the building’s third and fourth floors. The roof has been blown away. If the storage pool breaks and runs dry, the nuclear fuel inside will overheat and explode, causing a massive amount of radioactive substances to spread over a wide area. Both the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and French nuclear energy company Areva have warned about this risk."

[link to www.ecoshock.info]

No Problem!

According to our Source (C from P and other)
this Pool already exploded in the Week after 03/11,
things like this can happen only once and not multiple Times!

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 04/12/2012 12:10 PM

Listen to the interview. Thanks!

I know this Interview,
Mr. Gundersen is one of the last People i give a Credibility,
the rest are lost in Space of Stupidness!
(from the Anti-Nuclear Circus)

If people wonder why its getting attention now its because they are now unable to hide the evidence and have to come clean.

We knew at the time of the incident this would be a game changer for the planet and it will probably kill most if not all life on earth.

We on GLP said it was a planet killer when it happened but the shills ridiculed. Well the fucking shills were wrong (again) and now they should go crawl into thier fucking holes and shut the fuck up forever

The shills that tried to debunk the fukashima incident when it happened indirectly help to kill our planet by their fucking actions and denial

Shills should be fucking shot.

But Tepco said everything is under control!!?? They lied to us?

Over at MSNBC, Rachel Maddow says Reactor 2 is an example of a technology which has no solution. Humans can't get near such high radioactivity. Even robot electronics fail in such circumstances. The Japanese require a technology that hasn't been invented yet. Should we even be using nuclear technology, if unsolvable accidents can happen?

It is time to think the unthinkable. Arnie walks us through what could happen if we wake up one day, and the Fukushima Dai-ichi Reactor 4 fuel pool collapses.

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Gundersen says it is unlikely there would be an explosion if the #4 Fuel pool collapses. But dangerous "hot" particles would still be sent around the world, because within two days of the collapse, the Zirconium and radioactive metals (like Cesium and Plutonium) would burn at a very high temperature, sending particles high into the air. The result would be an everlasting disaster for Japan. Arnie thinks it could create a no-man's land 50 miles across the country, perhaps destabilizing the government.

[link to www.ecoshock.info]

they lied to you before they even built it.

building a nuclear power plant on an active fault zone subject to 8+ earthquakes and tsunami and using statistics to justify it is CRIMINAL

To understand this crisis and the ramifications one must understand the nuclear industry.
There is no separation; they are one.
The planners, the techs, the engineers, the financiers, the administrators, the regulators, the reporters, the shills.
No allegiance[save to themselves], no borders, no rules.

Once you realize this, their motives/actions become clear.

Gundersen has suffered because of his split with this industry. He sacrificed his career to expose safety violations by his former employers. He is credible to some extent but even he dare not say the complete truth. This allows shilldom to flourish. The sheer numbers of people involved is staggering.

I personally know of people who have left this forum because of actions taken against them for trying to get the truth out. This is not a benevolent group we are talking about.

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worthy of another bump

The next thing that needs to be done is have the control of the site taken away from TEPCO and GE. They have been dicking around for a year now and have not accomplished anything of any significance. The Japanese government needs to take over and ask for international help in trying to come up with some answers for these problems. Face saving and pride be damned.

Regardless of what has or has not happened so far. It is a sure bet that the situation will become much worse unless solutions are found and implemented. If they need to invent non-electronic steam powered clockwork robots to function in those levels of radioactivity..They had better get busy and do it.

Do some research on corium and also the volcanic nature of the geology of japan. You will learn that there is not much that can be done. The industry pros know this, so they do nothing.

The tepco dog & pony show is just that, a show...

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Were have you been? You must be new on GLP?

Aye, I am aware of the problems and have been following this situation since the first days of it happening. Humans however can be very creative problem solvers when given enough incentive. I would say that this situation qualifies. Especially when the alternative is to stare like a deer into the headlights of an oncoming train.

Because they had to let it get so bad before they told the truth. This way, it's worse than it was at the beginning. Not only did 3 reactors probably totally melt down, now they can trickle in the "latest" bad news, over a year later. It's all on a plan, setup right after it happened.

So if the pool already exploded where the hell did the fuel go?

At 15:40 in

In a severe earthquake M7.0 or better, it’s likely to break. Whether break means collapse and lay on its side like the leaning tower of Pisa, or the pool itself just shatters I don’t know [...]

[link to www.ecoshock.info]

[link to enenews.com]

Chris Martenson: Right and so you mentioned Unit 4 then, also being at risk for this. I thought that unit four, the core was out and that they have some water back in the pool. What is the concern with unit four at this point?

Arnie Gundersen: You are absolutely right and there is no reactor running there. Everything has been taken out and it was put in the spent fuel pool. But that means there is no containment either, so the entire spent fuel pool is visible literally. When they have those helicopter fly-overs, you can look down into this blown out shell of a building and see the fuel in the spent fuel pool. It's still relatively hot, because it only shut down in November. So there is still a lot of decay hear in that pool. Brookhaven National Labs did a study in 1997 and it said that if a fuel pool went dry and caught on fire, it could cause a hundred and eighty-seven thousand fatalities. So it's a big concern and probably the biggest concern. I now the Chairman of the NRC said that the reason he told Americans to get out from fifty miles out was that he was afraid that Unit 4 would catch fire, that exposed fuel pool would volatilize plutonium, uranium, cesium, and strontium. And if the Brookhaven Study is to be believed could kill more than a hundred thousand people, as a result.

Chris Martenson: So talk about — realistically – I mean this is going to be months, years, whatever, it’s going to take a long time. What do they do at this point, are they going to entomb these things, are they required to just keep dumping water on these things until they finally cool down, capturing water all the way through? Or is there some way that they can maybe just throw up their hands and just pour a bunch of concrete on it and call it a day?

Arnie Gundersen: I think eventually they may get to the point of throwing up their hands and pouring the concrete on. They can’t do that yet, because the cores are still too hot. So we are going to see the dance we’re in for another year or so, until the cores cool down. At that point, there’s not anywhere near as much decay heat and you probably could consider filling them with concrete and just letting sit there, like we have it at Chernobyl, as a giant mausoleum. That would work for units 1, 2, and 3. Unit 4 is still a problem, because again all the fuel is at the top and you can’t put the concrete at the top because you will collapse the building and it’s so radioactive, you can’t lift the nuclear fuel out. I used to do this as a living and Unit 4 has me stumped.

[link to www.fairewinds.com]

M5.9 quake hits Fukushima at 10:51a ET (MAPS) — Just hours after nearby M5.5

23:51 JST 12 Apr 2012
Fukushima-ken Oki
M5.9
Intensity 4 of 7

[link to www.jma.go.jp]

[link to enenews.com]

Spent fuel pool cooling system suspended at Fukushima Daiichi plant

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]


Radiation dose quadruples at one Tokyo monitoring station, triples at another

Adachi, Tokyo

April 12: 0.10 uSv/h average
April 13 at ~00:40a JST: 0.41 uSv/h
April 13 after ~00:40a JST: 0.10 uSv/h

Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo

April 12: 0.05 uSv/h average
April 13 at ~03:15a JST: 0.17 uSv/h
April 13 after ~03:15a JST: 0.05 uSv/h
The other monitor on Security Tokyo’s site remained near average levels.

[link to securitytokyo.com]

[link to enenews.com]