88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more!

true, not one of the programmes currently in place was in place during the depression, so how possibly could unemployment be counted then?

No dole
No unemployemnt insurances
No nothing.


Must not have been any unemployment in the 30's, none whatsoever, if we compare how it's done now.

No possible comparison if the methods and the counting are not done the same

5 Fucking stars!!!!!

All this fakery just so Obama can look good.

Obumba or Romney.. we are So Fucked America!!!!

Funny how we're not invisible to the IRS, or the county and state tax boards isn't it?

Did you seriously think that any politician would give up the truth in an election year??




We're pretty much fucked sheeple...

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New ways for employment :

1.- Employ yourself; do it yourself all the way.

2.- Your place, your office, your productive location.

3.- Go green, go ambientalist, go pacifist.

4.- Learn the future economy: bartners.

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THIS! There is no "this side or that side" anymore. They all play for the same team, folks. Wake up.

I work from home as an IT contractor while attending accredited college online getting my 4 year degree. Saves SOOOOO much money on gas, transportation expenses, $6-12 a day Starbucks habit, $6 a day on lunch not to even mention the reduced stress!

I thank god my parents taught me this as a child. I was never fooled.

Last Edited by LoVeLiGHT420 on 04/13/2012 07:13 PM

I personally know SEVERAL people who are long-term unemployed or underemployed ( part -time work ), but not counted in any of the unemployment statistics.

Rest assured, the leftist, rubber-stamp media will DECLARE before November that we are now "under 8% " unemployment, and we're in full recovery mode.

even the concept of "no longer in the workforce".

HOW DO YOU LIVE, if you are no longer in the workforce and no longer eligible for benefits?

You dont, you still have needs that you get from somewhere. NOBODY is out of the workforce, unless theyre dead. Everyone needs to be productive, and to be productive, you have to work. The whole wordplay bollocks should be no longer be tolerated, and to do that you have to stop accepting bollocks in word or deed

Exposing Collapse Agenda


[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

naturalment, by gummint statistics, there can be zero official unemployment and yet nobody working at all, such are the impossible methods of gummint statisticians.
And it will get only worse unless and until you say 'no more bullshite' and make it stick

Another snippet from the original link in my first post:

The Obama administration is pulling out all the stops. If the real story came out – that the true unemployment rate in this country (those out of work plus those who the government deems as no longer participating) is almost triple that of the official BLS U-3 rate of 8.2% – confidence in the financial markets and the government’s ability to mitigate the crisis would be lost almost immediately. So, too, would Obama’s hope for another four years of fundamentally changing America.

But just because the President and his media conglomerates are preaching of recovery doesn’t mean that everyone believes it. A large portion of Americans, especially those millions of people without jobs, are not going to be swayed by the mainstream propaganda. They are living in a modern day depression right here and now, and they, too, will be headed to the polls in November. And, as Jim Clifton, CEO of Gallup, recently pointed out to RT, they don’t care about anything else except for their personal economic and financial circumstances.

[link to rt.com]

Shadow Stats has U.S. unemployment at about 24%
[link to www.shadowstats.com]

^that is very sad but true

I bring more proof again that most do not consider.

And that is the Baltic Dry Index. It is the indicator that shows the shipment of goods across the seas.

At it's peak it was well over 11,000.

It is still under 1000.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

If we were in full recovery I would imagine that index would be around 5000 + now.

People are not buying like they did in the past.

It's just not happening. Goods are not being shipped across the high seas at nearly the rate the "robust economy" says there should be.

They are lying to us. It's hopium and bullshit.

Yep, very true indeed!

hopium definition from urban dictionary:
a political narcotic distributed by vested economic interests that makes moderate social liberalism, ethnicity, individual purity of heart, and soaring rhetoric appear to be substantive progressive change; co-optation of the left by vested economic interests
"The health care bill is a triumph of hopium over experience."

Are you guys kidding? It's the same measure that's been used for every single President. Why would it be fair to suddenly include the people who aren't looking for work or claiming benefits just because it's Obama? The bias is strong indeed.

Wrong. Check this link out:

[link to www.americanthinker.com]

Without getting too bogged down in the weeds of employment statistics, the U3 -- or headline rate -- is what is considered "the" unemployment rate. That is what was reported at 8.6 this week. The U6 rate combines unemployed and "underemployed" and is at 15.6%. That's a great indicator, but the newsmaker is U3.

The U3 rate is the percentage of the "participating labor force" that is unemployed. That is all well and good, except that the Obama labor department has decided that it will simply manipulate the definition of "labor force" to suit its own needs. And what the Obama administration has done is simply shrink the definition of the "labor force" by pretending that hundreds of thousands of non-working adults are no longer in existence for all intents and purposes.
If you are offended that under ObamaCare you may be considered "a unit," you should know that under Obama employment stats you may not even exist! In fact, a lot of non-working adults who existed in October apparently no longer do exist officially.

Attention FED

This is no bullshit.

The money people got by fixing up thier homes and selling in a market that couldn't keep up is GONE!!!!
WE THE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THE LIES
GROW THE FUCK UP AND DEAL WITH THE ISSUES

You can only look at the "real" figure objectively by comparing it to previous presidencies adjusted to include the "real figure", and when you do that suddenly those presidents who appeared to have good employment rates don't seem as good as people think...

The fact is that the current official unemployment rate is now not far off what it was when Bush left office, anything less by November will show that Obama has steered America away from the recession that started under a Republican presidency and towards recovery. The final Bush year was a disgrace ecomonically.

Where's the proof that the Obama administration has changed the definition of what constitutes "labour force", because I don't see it here. Not to mention that many pollsters such as Gallup haven't changed their definition by request of the government - they are continuing to use the same system they employed under Bush, Clinton, Bush Snr, Reagan and so forth.. Obama hasn't changed their methods. I call BS on that.

Exactly right. And nowhere in any published number will you find the formerly self-employed, commissioned sales people or anyone else who was 1099'd. So no mortgage brokers, realtors, construction company owners....

When are people going to realize?

With a "government" that plans to violently attack it's own citizens (I mean WHO are the hundreds and hundreds of MILLIONS of DHS flesh-shredding .40 cal rounds and bulletproof checkpoint booths really for), and lies to you about virtually everything, that these "people" are your ENEMY?

An innocuous government would not have laws on the books that TOTALLY negate the US constitution, and provide for the military to be used against the citizenry, and also allow the "government" to LEGALLY disappear you, even if you are totally INNOCENT. Even torture, deport, and/or KILL YOU, all legally, and even if you are never CHARGED with a crime!!

Should we be surprised that they've been doing what they've ALWAYS been doing, which is to blatantly LIE about the REAL unemployment figures?

Hold on tight, because all of their preparation hasn't been done for nothing. They plan on killing a very large percentage of you.

Believe and prepare, or deny and die.

Don't blame me I'm voting for Ron Paul you morans put your faith in the mormon or the muslim let me know how that works out for you idiots.

As much as I like most of Ron Paul's ideas, even if he got elected the "establishment" wouldn't let him accomplish jack squat. I won't be voting for any republican or democrat however, never have, probably never will.

Last Edited by LoVeLiGHT420 on 04/13/2012 08:37 PM

Be Patriotic: Don’t Vote

by Thomas J. DiLorenzo

Murray Rothbard once wrote that even the most brutal dictator ultimately bases his power on the opinions that are held by a majority of the population that is under his rule. After all, even dictators with large armies tend to be vastly outnumbered by the populations they rule over, and revolution is always on the dictator’s mind. That’s probably how he gained power himself in the first place — the previous dictator was, well, too dictatorial and created the conditions for his own overthrow.

Democratic regimes also base their legitimacy on their ability to claim that their rule is “the will of the people.” They believe in democracy with all their will, they tell us, so much so that generations of American politicians have believed that it was legitimate to wage war on other nations and to kill thousands of their citizens to impose “democracy” on them. Lincoln’s armies killed some 300,000 fellow citizens and maimed for life an even greater number, supposedly so that “government of the people, by the people, for the people,” i.e., democracy, shall not perish from the earth.

This of course was pure B.S.: Had the South seceded peacefully, democracy would have still existed in the U.S., the Confederate States of America, Canada, England, France, etc., etc. Nevertheless, that was an official purpose of the war, and of numerous other American wars. Woodrow Wilson brought America into World War I to supposedly “make the world safe for democracy.” We are now supposedly bringing democracy to Iraq at bayonet point with numerous other Middle East countries in our sights.

But America was not founded as a democracy. It was a constitutional republic. The whole purpose of the Constitution, James Madison wrote in Federalist #10, was to control “the violence of faction,” by which he meant democracy. That’s why, until the Lincolnian “Civil War Amendments” were added to it, every part of the Constitution was a prohibition of some kind of governmental power or activity. Democracy was made into a “civil religion” by Lincoln and subsequent generations of Lincolnites who have successfully overthrown the constitutional republic of the founding fathers.

These constitutional prohibitions or limitations are all but ignored today, of course. The Constitution does not provide for the central government to get involved in education, let alone sending a man — and untold millions or billions of dollars — to Mars. There are no longer any constitutional limitations on the central government. Washington politicians laugh and sneer at libertarian think tank employees who occasionally appear before their committees to oppose this or that government program on constitutional grounds. They laugh and say to them, “we’ve got the power to do it, and we’re going to do it.” I’ve seen it with my own eyes on C-SPAN.

President Clinton’s Surgeon General, Joycelyn Elders, went so far as to assert that the constitution allowed for a federal masturbation education program. Even Bill Clinton thought that went a little too far and fired the good doctor.

The Republican Party today stands for an explosive growth of the welfare state and is spending money on such programs as fast as Lyndon Johnson ever did. The Democrats are as bad or worse.

On foreign policy the Republican Party is dominated by crazed Wilsonians who want to involve the U.S. military in perpetual global warfare “to spread democracy.” As with all such imperialistic ventures, this would eventually bankrupt the country and create countless enemies who would like nothing better than to destroy us by the millions with nuclear weapons or poison. The Democrats are as bad or worse.

Both political parties are competing to grant amnesty to all illegal aliens, as the first step along the way to allowing completely open borders. Combining open borders with an explosively growing welfare state will invite all the deadbeats of the world to come to America, with all their extended family members in tow, to “celebrate democracy” by voting themselves more and more of the hard-earned dollars of those of us who work for a living in this country. This would cause the welfare state to eventually eat up a huge portion of national income, probably half or more. American taxpayers would be nothing but docile slaves to the Washington, D.C. plantation.

The government schools long ago gave up teaching anything significant about the founding fathers, the Constitution, and the philosophy of limited government — other than to trash and demean them. In a democracy it is not in the state’s best interest to educate its own citizens about the virtues of limited government, and ours doesn’t. And it certainly will never make any attempt to do so with the hordes of new immigrants it hopes to attract (and register to vote). Belief in the Constitution is essentially a lost cause.

That’s why it is unpatriotic to vote. Being patriotic in America means being devoted to the Constitution, if not the natural rights philosophy that motivated much of it. Since neither of the major political parties has any interest whatsoever in enforcing the constitutional limitations on the state, they are all traitors to the Constitution (with one lone exception, Congressman Ron Paul).

Anyone who supports them is also behaving in a traitorous manner. That is, anyone who votes for any of them. Voting only allows these traitors to the Constitution to proclaim that “the people have spoken” and “I am your president,” or congressman, senator, governor, or whatever. Their legitimacy rests solely on their ability to make this claim.

Imagine what a patriotic thrill you would receive if, in the next presidential election, a mere 10 percent of the electorate, instead of the usual 50 percent or so, voted. The unconstitutional regime in Washington would be de-legitimized. The upside is that it might just be possible that some politicians in Washington would get the message and start behaving more like a George Washington or Thomas Jefferson than a Tony Soprano or Vito Corleone (with apologies to all the distinguished Italian-Americans out there). The downside is that they will keep on behaving as they do now — with complete contempt for the Constitution and the population it is supposed to benefit. So be patriotic: Don’t vote.